Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Friday, November 20, 2009

A week after admitting to running old crowd footage that exaggerated the size of a health reform bill protest, Fox News ran old footage in a report on crowds greeting Sarah Palin on her book tour. The network again claimed a "production error," but critics are asking whether the news organization is intentionally manipulating its audience.

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FOX NEWS admits to "production error" that even sounds LAME. What is much worse is watching the big three totally miss stories like VAN JONES and ACORN on purpose to kiss Obama's ass and retain the status of "White House Approved" ...

Oh shit DOC I didn't realize this was your thread, how about I send you a muffin recipe and we will call it even...

Hasta Laredooo

FOX NEWS the Number one CABLE news network...

oops sorry about that last part ...

**Fox's Misleading Palin Footage Raises Questions **

.......does not raise any questions at all.......

....Fox continues to be full of shit............

......now ..if they had spent one day reporting the news honestly......THEN there'd be something to talk about.......

Atax: FoxNews is the number one Cable News network solely because sheep are far easier to lead than thinking human beings.

Funny how any number of production errors they have made over the years always seems to error on the right-leaning side of the argument.

FOX NEWS the Number one CABLE news network...

I mean really, who gives a shit. That matters to me about as much as who wins the Super Bowl.

However, if it makes magical changes in your life, then I'm happy for you.

FOX NEWS the Number one CABLE news network...

Cable news gets about 1/10 the viewership of network news, and fox gets 1/3 of tht one tenth, so they get 3% of the viewership-sort of like bragging about third place runnerup in the peewee soccer league.

What the hell is the point?
What are you bitching about?

I see no advantage to anyone with the airing of this footage.

There is no question that the turnout for this appearance by Governor Palin was impressive. Local media covered it. I live in the area and local media reported people spending the night in the parking lot waiting for a 7:00PM appearance. I think they were nuts but they were there.

I know that many of you detest Fox News but this appears to have been an error that neither harmed nor helped anyones position.

Tempest in a Teapot.

Fox News: We make shit up, you believe.

"Fox claims of "production error" have been met with skepticism by critics who wonder whether the "news" organization is intentionally manipulating its audience."

They're just WONDERING?

Cable news gets about 1/10 the viewership of network news

#7 | Posted by northguy3

WELL duh the network news is free and since Obama has so many people out of work that's all they can afford "LAME STREAM MEDIA". Besides I understand Liberals don't want actual news like VAN JONES or ACORN they want their news scrubbed and sanitized and most of all "White House Approved" like Soviet Union, Liberals are the real sheep on this story and they love it...


Atax: FoxNews is the number one Cable News network solely because sheep are far easier to lead than thinking human beings.

#4 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-11-19 06:26 PM | Reply

Hence the election of the half black guy whose words mean more than his actions.

Funny how any number of production errors they have made over the years always seems to error on the right-leaning side of the argument.

#5 | Posted by KnightHawk at 2009-11-19 07:28 PM | Reply

Funny how you empty heads think that. I imagine if left-leaning blogs and left-wing media watchdogs are spoon feeding you this info you'd buy in to that.

I imagine if MSNBC had made the below error, Palin and her braindead fans would be up in arms...
www.youtube.com

If only the Fox haters would focus their attention to something constructive for the country. Instead of spending all day looking for any slip up by Fox news, why don't you petition the community organizer to focus on creation of a pro business(aka jobs) agenda. Instead the jobs continue to be lost with no plan on how to get them back.

Hopey Changey

Guess no one read the whole article, in the last paragraph, the author admits quietly that MSNBC makes shit up too

;P

"Fox News Runs More Bogus Crowd Footage"

They have no legal obligation to do otherwise. They don't have to report the truth, they create truth through their actions. And its all perfectly legal.

As they say, that's entertainment.

As they say, that's entertainment.
#17 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Yeah, and its too bad too. The only legal obligation they have is not to slander anyone.

Guess no one read the whole article, in the last paragraph, the author admits quietly that MSNBC makes shit up too

Anyone else check this out and actually watch the MSNBC vid? It's entertaining. If only Hannity was as straightforward in offering a genuine apology.

Local media covered it. I live in the area and local media reported people spending the night in the parking lot waiting for a 7:00PM appearance. I think they were nuts but they were there.
#8 | POSTED BY COWBOY AT 2009-11-20 07:48 AM

Local media covers people waiting in line at Walmart on Christmas and people waiting in line for the Twilight movie. Important issues being covered there, huh?

No biggie. Just the propaganda business as usual.

Everyone knows faux neocon network won a court case in Feb 03 stating they have the right to LIE and MISINFORM.

Only people who watch it are those who want a good laugh, comedy material (daily show), are held hostage, or want to hear the lies/misinformation they already believe.

That they have the word "news" in their title and "fair and balanced" as a motto, only makes it more humorous.

FOX NEWS - we lie and you keep sucking it up!

A production error - sure it was - seems like there are MANY of these production errors lately at FAUX News.

Let see how they handle the COMPalin book signing in Columbus tonight. Maybe they can make another 'production mistake'. FOX will run footage of her visits to Ohio last year and then present them as current footage.

I imagine if MSNBC had made the below error, Palin and her braindead fans would be up in arms...
www.youtube.com

#13 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-11-20 09:23 AM

I watched the clip big deal FOX showed the wrong book cover and then corrected their mistake, so what...

It's not like they did a "DAN RATHER" and just pulled the news out of their asses knowing it was false and aired it as being true and then kept lying about it. Possibly if DAN RATHER would have had 11 FACT checkers he would not have been allowed to broadcast a known lie about Bush and his service record. Why do Liberals think ABC CBS & NBC are all official "White House Approved" news outlets. They do as they are told to stay in the good graces of the White House, have you already forgotten the Helen Thomas exchange with Gibbs "What do you think we are a bunch of damn puppets" ...

#23 Gets a FF for ridiculousness.

"It's not like they did a "DAN RATHER" and just pulled the news out of their asses knowing it was false"

Are you a complete idiot?

That's exactly what they did. How do you think that video got on air? Do you actually believe there's some random 'footage generator' that just barfs up whatever, or do you realize they have to specifically choose what footage makes up the B roll?

"#23 Gets a FF for ridiculousness."

And a "Sorry, bud, you've had enough," from the guy behind the counter at the cantina.

"That's exactly what they did."

That's what Fox did, but that's not what Dan Rather did, which is why I gave ATA the FF for ridiculousness.

And a "Sorry, bud, you've had enough," from the guy behind the counter at the cantina.
#26 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

I always used female bartenders for that. Or maybe a cocktail waitress.

Usually easier to be cut off by a woman. No masculinity challenges.

On one hand those evil bastards at Fox are doing everything they can to help Sara Palin and make her book a success. On the other hand, they show the wrong title of her book.

Most will know mistakes happen. Many will think the ones promoting Palin were done purposefully, and the one that showed the wrong book was an accident...They're the ones that have Media Matters in their "favorites" folder.

All corporate media is nothing more than paid propaganda for the powerful.

And americans are fucking idiots for paying to watch it.

Throw out your tv.

There is no downside.

Fox News Mistakenly Shows 'Going Rouge' Book Cover Onscreen During Segment on 'Going Rogue'

The above comment is over the video showing FOX NEWS and what they have done. FOX NEWS showed the rouge book cover During a Segment on 'Going Rogue' WTF...

The funny part is whenever I ask what happened to ABC CBS and NBC during VAN JONES or ACORN liberals are silent because they know the LAME STREAM MEDIA killed both stories. ABC finally reported a tidbit about VAN JONES resigning in disgrace after the fact. I knew all about the resignation before ANYONE else who only watches the LSM...

"Throw out your tv.
There is no downside."

I'd consider divorce a downside. Otherwise I'd be there with you.

No masculinity challenges.

#28 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2009-11-20 10:48 AM | Reply

If the guys were drinking Zimas, Wine Coolers, White Zin, or any flavored beer I imagine you'd handle it yourself, right?

"OK, Ladies Night is over. Go home to your husband."

Most will know mistakes happen. Many will think the ones promoting Palin were done purposefully, and the one that showed the wrong book was an accident...They're the ones that have Media Matters in their "favorites" folder.
#29 | Posted by 101Chairborne

I thought you had them in your favorites too? But seriously, if some other network made an "error" in Palin's favor, I might take the networks word for it. Harder to do when the network is FOX.

#23

Remind me, where ARE those service records from 72-73?

Now, another voice - a credible voice - has entered the debate. Killian's secretary, Marian Carr Knox, describes herself as Killian's "right hand" during much of the 1970s.

She flew to New York Wednesday afternoon to tell 60 Minutes that she believes the documents we obtained are not authentic.

But there's yet another confusing twist to this story. She told Correspondent Dan Rather that she believes what the documents actually say is exactly as we reported.

Knox is 86 years old, and completely comfortable in the eye of a storm. She spent more than two decades keeping pilots and officers in line at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston. Now, she wants to set the record straight about the memos that CBS News obtained.

Knox says she didn't type these memos, but she says she did type ones that contained the same information.

"I know that I didn't type them," says Knox. "However, the information in those is correct."

Knox says the information in the four memos that CBS obtained is very familiar, but she doesn't believe the memos are authentic. She does, however, remember Killian being upset over Mr. Bush's failure to take a physical.

"Did or did not Lt. Bush take a physical as ordered by Col. Killian," Rather asks Knox.
"The last time, no he didn't," says Knox. "It was a big no-no to not follow orders. And I can't remember anyone refusing to. Now for instance, with the physical, every officer knew that before his birthday he was supposed to have that flying physical. Once in a while they might be late, but there would be a good excuse for it and let the commander know and try to set up a date for a make-up. If they did not take that physical, they were off flying status until they did."

Did Knox ever hear Killian talk about this, or did he write memos about Bush not taking the physical?

"He was upset about it. That was one of the reasons why he wrote a memo directing him to go take the physical," says Knox. "I'm going to say this, but it seems to me that Bush felt that he was above reproach."

www.cbsnews.com

So, the secretary typed those records with the same info. Yet, they don't exist, eh? aWol's daddy purged the records while still potus, then they released them doctored with newer fonts to create the perfect storm that killed two birds with the same stone.

1. It falsely portrayed the only news show critical of aWol as less than credible.

2. It put to rest the search for his records.

Of course, we all know that last regime would never stoop to leaking FALSE INFO, right?

LMFAO

I gave ATA the FF for ridiculousness.

#27 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

I must have missed that I thought Dan Rather was no longer with us and had lost his multi million dollar lawsuit...

Thanks for the FF you can never have too many of those they seem to follow me around...

If the guys were drinking Zimas, Wine Coolers, White Zin, or any flavored beer I imagine you'd handle it yourself, right?
"OK, Ladies Night is over. Go home to your husband."
#33 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Of course.

Remind me to tell you the story about how I broke up a fight between a 350lb Mexican and a 160lb college kid at a bar I was working at once. I was at my heroin chic weight of about 145 at the time. It was the ridiculousness of my intercession that stopped the Mexican.... who picked me up laughing and gave me a bear hug.

"But there's yet another confusing twist to this story. She told Correspondent Dan Rather that she believes what the documents actually say is exactly as we reported."

That was exactly my point.

Fox News. If We Can't Make It.
We Fake It.

The whole point of even talking about this is because it is about Palin. Rcade and the left just can't get enough of her!!!!

Actually he's still insulting idiots like Flushpaw, who support her, by continuing to provide evidence of what a completely incompetent idiot she really is.

Not had absolutely nothing to do with the thread BRIWORT

"The whole point of even talking about this is because it is about Palin"

The Palin Derangement Syndrome is strong with many here

It's funny as Hell to watch the libtards become unhinged over Palin......

Rage on libtards....Rage on!
.

Actually, it's the outrage of the Riiighties whenever Palin's name comes up that's hilarious. It's almost as if they'd rather not see her name floated around because they also know she's a Twenty-Six Percenter who, if she ever got the GOP nomination for president, would almost certainly drag an already bedraggled political party down to depths of misery not seen since the Know Nothings faded out of the picture in the 1850s.

Sistah Sarah, the gift that keeps on giving.

All media lie a bit and use file footage. It is amazing lefties can only find it in FOX. Just last week MSNBC showed a photoshopped picture of "Palin in a bathing suit" when in fact it was proven false last year. I don't recall a post here on that. But please, lefties, show your outrage on something you claim to never watch. And keep believing everything the left media wants you to believe. In turn they will tell you that you are enlightened.

Local media covers people waiting in line at Walmart on Christmas and people waiting in line for the Twilight movie. Important issues being covered there, huh?

#20 | Posted by QuidamBrujah

I made no comment as to whether or not this coverage was 'Important". My only comment was that there appeared to be no intentional misinformation included in the coverage.

The only value that I could find was that I managed to postpone a planned visit to this store to pick up a book.

What happened to ABC CBS and NBC during VAN JONES or ACORN, liberals are silent because they know the LAME STREAM MEDIA killed both stories. ABC finally reported a tidbit about VAN JONES resigning in disgrace after the fact...

Still no answers from the left why is that...


#31 | Posted by ATaxpayer

Palin Derangement Syndrome=Anyone who believes someone who cannot cite the references she reads, went to 6 different colleges before finding one that would pass her, thinks being able to see the russian tundra out her window in the distance is foreign policy experience, and QUITS is possibly a candidate for any elected office in the USA.

Want to see who has PDS?

Just look at any actual footage of anyone buying her book or posting support of her here on DR.

All threads about Palin that appear here, which are DAILY, are from the left. No where here are there right wing supports of her only the usual Libtard trashing. She goes on a book tour and the left just goes crazy, another deflection from their boy's problems I guess.

Please forgive them Fox News and their minions, don't know the first thing about truth and honest as it applies to News they are learning, one can only hope that they will someday get it right......

It's it interesting that the Fox-Republican News agency only now after eight years of Mr. Bush feel it necessary to question every move the President makes?????? Where were this BITCHES when Mr. Bush was spending Billions to send our Country into AN UNNECESSARY WAR???? An the Fox-Republicans had the nerve to question the Patriotism of any one who dared to question their President. GIMME A FUCKING BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please forgive them Fox News and their minions, don't know the first thing about truth and honest as it applies to News they are learning, one can only hope that they will someday get it right......

It's it interesting that the Fox-Republican News agency only now after eight years of Mr. Bush feel it necessary to question every move the President makes?????? Where were this BITCHES when Mr. Bush was spending Billions to send our Country into AN UNNECESSARY WAR???? An the Fox-Republicans had the nerve to question the Patriotism of any one who dared to question their President. GIMME A FUCKING BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please forgive them Fox News and their minions, don't know the first thing about truth and honest as it applies to News they are learning, one can only hope that they will someday get it right......

It's it interesting that the Fox-Republican News agency only now after eight years of Mr. Bush feel it necessary to question every move the President makes?????? Where were this BITCHES when Mr. Bush was spending Billions to send our Country into AN UNNECESSARY WAR???? An the Fox-Republicans had the nerve to question the Patriotism of any one who dared to question their President. GIMME A FUCKING BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Palin Derangement

#48 | Posted by woke

Great Deflection woke

the left just can't get enough of her!!!!

LOL

Who is it that reports on the "unbelievable popularity of Palin's new book release" again? The left?

It is "the left" that trumpets Palin's popularity. The left is "camping in the parking lot" to buy a book. "The left" is falsifying B-reel to inflate her supposed popularity. And "the left" is then reporting on their fraud....

Man, we seem to be getting around! Basically, every single angle of the Palin teleplay is covered by "the left". Even Sarah! herself must be a leftist.

47

Nice try at changing the subject, but what about the question and facts presented about the bs you posted earlier?

WHERE are lilaWol's service records from 72-73?

If the DOCTORED records presented by Rather weren't those records, why did Col. Killian's secretary state unequivocably that the information contained in them was exactly what she typed for her boss about aWol?

Do tell.

And btw, ACORN has been taken off the rw talking point list. Didn't you get the memo? What "liberal" media? The reason that corporate owned media and repugs stopped invoking the ACORN name is that if all agencies that recieve federal money who are accused of fraud should be defunded, then halliburton would have to give back BILLIONS, not to mention all the other war profiteering corporations who were unable to complete their contracts in iraqnam and afghanistan.

This is perhaps the first Celesary post that didn't use the term "FUCKING RACISTS". You ok????

I'm sorry Flushpaw, I didn't realize you were "slow"
I'll type slower ok?

Great Deflection woke

#53 | POSTED BY ATAXPAYER AT 2009-11-20 12:32 PM

Says the guy who tried to deflect this thread to be about Dan Rather and later about ACORN.

Physician, heal thyself.

The Palin Deflections are great at pointing out you are all stumped and can not or will not answer a simple question...

What happened to ABC CBS and NBC during VAN JONES or ACORN, liberals are silent because they know the LAME STREAM MEDIA killed both stories. ABC finally reported a tidbit about VAN JONES resigning in disgrace after the fact...

Still no answers from the left why is that...

#31 | Posted by ATaxpayer

#47 | Posted by ATaxpayer

No where here are there right wing supports of her

WoW

Are you completely insane, is this just a moment of lucid stupidity, or a brilliant example of Poe's Law?

This kind of crazy is not normally witnessed.

Someone get National Geographic on the phone, STAT. I think we may have ourselves the first living example of Turkana Boy in 2 million years.

If there are any paleoanthropologists among the DR herd, here's your shot to get published!

As for your Hero DAN RATHER tell us why he is no longer a news anchor and what happened to his multi million dollar lawsuit...

#48 | Posted by woke at 2009-11-20 12:25 PM | Reply | Flag: Poster Boy for unhinged Palin Derangement Syndrome
.

newsbusters.org

ABC and NBC on Friday night, even after White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs was forced to address the topic, continued their blackout of the radical and America-hating conspiracy views of Van Jones, the "Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation" on the White House's Council on Environmental Quality.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Total words about the Van Jones controversy in the New York Times: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy in the Washington Post: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on NBC Nightly News: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on ABC World News: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on CBS Evening News: 0.

www.liveleak.com

Total words about the Van Jones controversy on NBC Nightly News: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on ABC World News: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on CBS Evening News: 0.

If you were to receive all your news from any one of these outlets, or even all of them together, and you heard about some sort of controversy involving President Obama's Special Adviser for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation, your response would be, "Huh?"

Fox has a leg up on the competition!
-Max Cleland

To all the liberals who would not or could not answer...

What happened to ABC CBS and NBC during VAN JONES or ACORN, liberals are silent because they know the LAME STREAM MEDIA killed both stories. ABC finally reported a tidbit about VAN JONES resigning in disgrace after the fact...

Still no answers from the left why is that...

#31 | Posted by ATaxpayer

#47 | Posted by ATaxpayer

YOU HAVE JUST HAD YOUR COLLECTIVE ASSES KICKED BY ATAX...

HASTA LAREDOOO...

#60 Hey Blewme, name one post on this thread that says how great Palin is and then you can continue your rant. Also you can answer Ax's question after that. Thanks

#68 | Posted by fishpaw

GOOD LUCK LOOKS LIKE THE LIBERALS ALL RAN AWAY AFTER I HANDED THEM THEIR ASSES...

HASTA LAREDOO, now to a nice vacation after kicking some liberal ass...

What happened to ABC CBS and NBC during VAN JONES

ABC:
blogs.abcnews.com

CBS:
www.cbsnews.com

NBC:
www.nbcwashington.com

I'm just going to assume you're too fucking stupid to use Google.

Amazing how an idiot like yourself knows about Van Jones, but somehow thinks the information came to you in a supernatural vision. You know because it was reported.

If you think you deserve the right to decide where, how, by whom, and to what extent a story should be covered I suggest you:
-grow a brain or borrow someone else's
-get a degree in journalism
-work for 20 years in the industry
-get hired as a news director

...or you can keep whining?

It is up to you.

If you feel the need to make a thread about a low-level former Federal employee and how he received such little coverage that he had to resign, no one will stop you. The best part is that you could not possibly look more foolish than you already do. That's a real asset, use it.

#59

Answered at #55 before you even posted #59

Are you reading comprehension impaired or just have a selectivity problem?

The corporate owned media and repugs have taken ACORN off their talking point list because if ACORN is stripped of funding because of a "alleged" fraud case, which was an edited set up by rw operatives, then congress would have to look at all the fraud actually committed by halliburton, et al war profiteers who did not complete their contracts in iraqnam and afghanistan.

Now, ATA

Why don't you tell us wtf your bs diversions have to do with faux neocon network lying/misinforming their audience?

At least the CBS and NBC stories you supplied were AFTER he resigned. Ax's point was that the big three networks didn't go with the story that CAUSED him to resign. That was the point so keep Googling Blewme until you come up with the correct answer. Thanks

#70

translation: i need to cut and run before someone points out the obvious flaws in my bs....eh?

LMFAO

if ACORN is stripped of funding because of a "alleged" fraud case, which was an edited set up by rw operatives

ACORN hung themselves and it's all on tape, in their own words.

Don't be a hack.

Wait a minute....

Hew Blewme, sorry but your ABC link was during his resignation as well. Keep Googling though. Thanks

name one post on this thread

I'll do you one better. Here are ENTIRE threads devoted to how awesome Sarah! is posted by a righty:
www.drudge.com

and another:
www.drudge.com

and another:
www.drudge.com

Are you suggesting that it is "the left" that is buying all the pre-orders of Going Rouge, and reporting stories on the sales just so we can then make fun of her?

The 60 million sycophants that voted for her, were they liberals too/

"Going Rouge"

Sometimes [sic] is a gift.

#78 Once again can't answer the question that you rant about. You are totally useless.

so keep Googling

Um, no. You're the one that is interested (well, only interested to the extent that you think Van Jones is a reflection upon "the left").

you google

I'm done rubbing your nose in your own shit.
ABC, NBC, CBS all ran stories on Van Jones[Full Stop]

Thanks for finally admitting that.

This is starting to feel like kicking a cripple.

Don't be a hack.

Wait a minute....

#76 | Posted by JeffJ at 2009-11-20 02:03 PM | Reply |
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woke is not only a pathetic lying POS hack he is also mentally ill, admitted it himself:

"Ok, you got me buddy." "I have treatable PTSD."

#101 | Posted by woke at 2009-11-09 12:20 PM

At least it 'kind of' explains his delusional rantings.
.

Ax's point was that the big three networks didn't go with the story that CAUSED him to resign.

LOL

Oh, I see.

So you think that Van Jones resigned because of stories in the media AND AT THE SAME TIME think that the media wasn't reporting enough stories on Van Jones to make him resign.

Your "logic" is astounding.

#81 Also checked your links to the so called Palin love fests, bogus as well. You have about as much credibility as an Obama campaign speech.

Blewme, why did he resign?

LOL

Bogus how?

It was three blog entries posted here by Kankles McMurphy about Sarah!.

I give up.

You're just too god damned stupid. You'll make good fertilizer one day though. So there is some hope.

why did he resign?

Apparently because no one in the universe has ever seen his name in print.

Maybe he didn't exist and had to resign as a result?

(I'm just trying on your "logic" hat for size)

"Maybe he didn't exist and had to resign as a result?"

Reminds me of the Fernando Poo incident.

Reminds me of the Fernando Poo incident

Careful, Hagbard. You'll have these muppets inventing "facts" about Illumanti influence at the ABC news desk.

It's funny as hell to watch Repugnicans drool over the Half-Baked Alaskan Palin. As if she was their intellectual superior. Hmm, maybe she is.

ATAXPAYER:

VAN JONES (sic) ACORN (sic)

Really? BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHA

Here's another helping of Kruel-Aid for your poor deluded brain.

Careful, Hagbard. You'll have these muppets inventing "facts" about Illumanti influence at the ABC news desk.
#89 | Posted by BluSky

LOL. I figured that anybody who understood my post would not be the sort to invent facts about anything.

You get credit for recognizing the reference.

And a FF>

I say let them do what they want. The only ones who find Fox credible are the folks who are already hypnotized loyalists.

In the big scheme of things...why does it matter if they make crowds larger than they really are.

ACORN hung themselves and it's all on tape, in their own words.
Don't be a hack.
Wait a minute....

#76 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2009-11-20 02:03 PM

Remind me, was it just my DELUSION that these ACORN videos were severely EDITED by the authors? Methinks some folks don't like poor blacks voting, eh? LOL

Compare and contrast the laughable "fraud" captured by these hack "reporters" who EDITED their own videos to the BILLIONS of dollars lost to halliburton

WASHINGTON, Aug. 17, 2004
New Fuel To Halliburton Fraud Fire
CBS News Has Documents Showing Firm Charged Improper Fees

Halliburton Fraud Probe
The Iraq contractor Halliburton has been dogged by fraud accusations, and now documents obtained by CBS News show it overcharged for soldiers' laundry by $1 million a month, Sharyl Attkisson reports.

(CBS) When it comes to logistical help for U.S. troops in Iraq, Halliburton is the biggest game in town. Under a wartime contract that's $7 billion and growing, it's serving the needs of 200,000 troops.

But the Houston-based conglomerate once headed by Vice President Dick Cheney is neck-deep in allegations of waste and fraud involving millions of taxpayer dollars, reports CBS News Correspondent Sharyl Attkisson.

The U.S. Army is threatening to partially withhold payments to Halliburton for the logistical support the company provides for troops in Iraq. The reason: allegations of millions of dollars in over-charges for food, shelter and services.

www.cbsnews.com

Sept. 24, 2004
More On Iraq And Halliburton
Former Company Workers Say Theft And Waste Rampant In Iraq
www.cbsnews.com

Yeah, let's talk about defrauding the us govt of billions of dollars.....instead of faux neocon networks fraudulent "news" reports.....

woke,
Do you know what non sequitur means? Did you know Max Cleland cut his own legs off while smoking a joint in Nam? Did you know you could get PTSD from waiting too long in line for hot chow?

In the big scheme of things...why does it matter if they make crowds larger than they really are.
#92 | Posted by Lisa

IMO it does make a difference. Its similar to the President accepting donations from unverified international sources during the campaign, taking the fundraising bump he got from the press coverage, then quietly returning the illegal funds afterward.

It makes Beck appear to be more influential than he is, which might actually make him more influential than he deserves to be.

"The U.S. Army is threatening to partially withhold payments to Halliburton for the logistical support the company provides for troops in Iraq. The reason: allegations of millions of dollars in over-charges for food, shelter and services."

Did that happen? My guess is that Halliburton would sue for breach of contract.

Did you know you could get PTSD from waiting too long in line for hot chow?

he has an episode every night at the local soup kitchen.

#82

Tell me, how you gonna avoid running into someone who has PTSD?

Hundreds of thousands of Vietnam veterans returned with it. Hundreds of thousands more from Gulf War I and the unnecessary invasions/occupations of iraqnam and afghanistan are returning with it.

Battered wives have it. Abused children have it. Trauma victims have it.

I came back with it in 1970 and was lucky enough to receive help.
Some do not.

I am not ashamed of my service, nor any problems I incurred as a result of it.

I sincerely hope you someday decide to denigrate a war vet face to face over this issue or your other favorite war vet denigration, the right to dissent.

But, we all know that silly little rw political prostitute chickenhawks who spend their days behind computers denigrating war veterans and who have never served anyone but themselves, would not have the guts to do that.

Don't we?

IMO it does make a difference. Its similar to the President accepting donations from unverified international sources during the campaign, taking the fundraising bump he got from the press coverage, then quietly returning the illegal funds afterward.

I don't think that is what she meant. But rather the inflated number of people assumed in the reports were "assumed" by people who already buy into Fox News hook line and sinker anyway. What difference would bogus crowd footage really make for those folks. Its not like they took bright, enlightend and informed liberals and swayed their position.

They are all brain dead anyway........right?

Tell me, how you gonna avoid running into someone who has PTSD?

1. very alert driving skills
2. anti-lock brakes.

"They are all brain dead anyway........right?"

That would make things easy. Its far more complicated than that.

I say let them do what they want. The only ones who find Fox credible are the folks who are already hypnotized loyalists.

In the big scheme of things...why does it matter if they make crowds larger than they really are.

100

As I said:

I sincerely hope you someday decide to denigrate a war vet face to face over this issue.....

But, we all know that silly little rw chickenhawks who spend their days behind computers denigrating war veterans and who have never served anyone but themselves, would not have the guts to do that.

Don't we?

Evan Kanter, MD, PhD, staff psychiatrist in the PTSD Outpatient Clinic of the VA Puget Sound Health Care System, said that estimates are for a minimum of 300,000 psychiatric casualties from service in Iraq, to this point, with an estimated lifetime cost of treatment of $660 billion. That is more than the actual cost of the war to date ($500 billion).

"A study of the first 100,000 [Iraq and Afghanistan] veterans seen at VA facilities showed that 25% of them received mental health diagnoses. Of these, 56% had 2 or more mental health diagnoses. The most common were PTSD, substance abuse, and depression," Dr. Kanter said. "The younger the veterans are, the more likely they are to have mental health conditions."

www.medscape.com

woke is a walking non sequitur.

Dummy,
Tell that lie again. You know, the one where you pretend you're personal friends with Max Cleland, who you admit you've never met or conversed with.
Or is telling lies part of your made up PTSD from standing in line for hot chow while the real men fought?

"The only ones who find Fox credible are the folks who are already hypnotized loyalists."

I believe that should be the case, but the open minded person in me will not accept that. I have to believe that there are people on the far right who are similar to me on the left, Fox appeals to their ideological ideas about the world (as MSNBC tends to with mine), but notes the ventures into extreme hyperbole if not outright misrepresentation or mischaracterization. But I guess those same people will acknowledge how FOX overplayed their hand here... if they are like me at all.

#105 Nailed it. and I think President Obama is a socialist at the very least:)

"#105 Nailed it. and I think President Obama is a socialist at the very least:)"

Did you have to follow up that compliment with a statement that was going to get under my skin like that?


FOX NEWS the Number one CABLE news network...

Cable news gets about 1/10 the viewership of network news, and fox gets 1/3 of tht one tenth, so they get 3% of the viewership-sort of like bragging about third place runnerup in the peewee soccer league.

#7 | Posted by northguy3

Link, please

:)


I say let them do what they want. The only ones who find Fox credible are the folks who are already hypnotized loyalists.

#102 | Posted by Lisa

Lisa,

What News Network do you find credible?

I've watched them all and all have their own entertainment agendas.

My mom and my sister thinks that Rachael Maddow hung the moon!!!

Would someone please explain...

jmbell.org

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!

Seems to me that Fix News said less about Blackwater than all the other media outlets said about Acorn or Van Jones. Gee....I wonder why?

Eddie:

I generally don't watch the news to be entertained.

I watch it to actually hear the NEWS.

What a concept, huh?! : )


Eddie:

I generally don't watch the news to be entertained.

I watch it to actually hear the NEWS.

What a concept, huh?! : )

#113 | Posted by Lisa

Nice deflection...

Again, which News Network do you find credible?


Seems to me that Fix News said less about Blackwater than all the other media outlets said about Acorn or Van Jones. Gee....I wonder why?

#112 | Posted by soul4u

Do you have a link for how much Fox talked about Blackwater?


Actually, it's the outrage of the Riiighties whenever Palin's name comes up that's hilarious.
#44 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Do you have a link for this outrage? Or are you just bullshitting again?

What outrage are you talking about?

Wasn't a deflection at all. I actually just forgot to answer the original question after I found it funny you spoke about being entertained rather than informed.

I watch a local station.WJAC.

I don't watch cable news stations.

I don't watch cable news stations.

#117 | Posted by Lisa

I don't either.

You really don't understand me at all, do you? It's plain English.

"I've watched them all and all have their own entertainment agendas. "

Means that I've given them all a chance and I find that all the intend to do is entertain.

LOL! You think I'm a Republican, therefore you think I'm an idiot. LOL!!!

Yesterday's thread was just like this. I swear! I just can't get over the superior attitude you have. It's amazing.

#118

You really don't understand ME at all.

My beliefs are much more connected to those of republicans than to democrats.
I believe I posted once to you yesterday after you addressed me, purhaps twice and if memory serves, I defended you to others on a different thread.

I generally don't do that for people I think are idiots.

However, your superior attitude comment wasn't too bright.

#119 | Posted by Lisa

understood

I generally don't watch the news to be entertained.

I watch it to actually hear the NEWS.

What a concept, huh?! : )

#113 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-11-20 05:21 PM |

You are being "entertained" by the news, gullible Wisconsinite!

inch by inch until they just don't have to defend themselves any more....

Seems to me that Fix News said less about Blackwater than all the other media outlets said about Acorn or Van Jones. Gee....I wonder why?

#112 | Posted by soul4u

Do you have a link for how much Fox talked about Blackwater?

I'm sorry Eddie. I didn't realize you needed a link to post your opinion. In any event, here are some links substantiating my point of view. Maybe you shouldn't respond unless you have links that lead to different conclusions.

www.sodahead.com
brokenspectrum.com

#11 | Posted by ATaxpayer

Most people nowadays have either cable TV or satellite. Network news gets watched because it's credible.

Fox number 1, I always knew Fox was the best, and most reliable for the truth, the others are under communist and hyprocrital control, and pad their audience.
Network News is another one bought and paid off by the sickos...

"Fox number 1"

Well, yeah, as long as you don't compare it to the networks.

That's like touting the home run champion...of Triple-A Baseball.

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