Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, November 18, 2009

People who have had repeated flu infections -- or repeated flu vaccines -- may have some protection against the new pandemic swine influenza. That does not mean older people are protected from infection, and Deckhut-Augustine stressed that people should still be vaccinated against H1N1.

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The human immune system has two kinds of protection. Antibody response can prevent infection, while T-cells fight infection once it has occurred.

Damn. Innate immunity don't get no respect.

Read this:
Is it real?

Ukraine experiencing Swine Flu on steroids?

Mondo scary!

www.gather.com

Whooo. Scary stuff. Should I be afraid?

Another crackpot bogeyman from Zombie brain.

Ukraine experiencing Swine Flu on steroids?

There was a thread about this story posted awhile ago, and if you browse the posts you'll find that there are all manner of perfectly rational explanations for what some consider viral 'roid rage.

Until the genome of isolates from these patients are sequenced, all of this alarmist babble about biological warfare and doomsday reassortants is idle speculation. I don't find any sequences from Ukraian H1N1 isolates in GenBank or anywhere else. I look forward to seeing them, though. It would take less than an hour to compare them to other H1N1 isolates from patients around the world and check if any genetic variation is known to cause greater virulence. Let the data do the talking, not loons from the peanut gallery.

Whooo. Scary stuff. Should I be afraid?

Apparently you didn't read the article.

Another crackpot bogeyman from Zombie brain.

What's your problem? Are you truly the self-deluded moron you portray yourself as? I am no stranger to people who ignore scientific information because it contradicts beliefs held on faith. I am puzzled, however, by people who pride themselves on being rational individuals but engage in irrational behavior.

I may be a young, idealistic fucker, but I fully intend to spend my life studying viruses because it may in some small way benefit humanity, and viruses are amazing lifeforms. Those proteinaceous sacks of nucleic acid and misery have all the information storage capacity of a stack of IBM punch cards, but they are capable of feats that will blow your mind. If I wanted to be some sort of amoral profiteer, I have plenty of other career options available to me. I'm sure the same is true for others. Just because the scientific community disagrees with you does not mean that it has sinister ulterior motives

Who is typing these posts? We're all supposed to be dead by now, don't ya know.

Who is typing these posts?

Robots. From the future. John Connor sent them back in time to infect us all with swine flu and prevent Skynet from being completed.

Are you truly the self-deluded moron you portray yourself as? I am no stranger to people who ignore scientific information because it contradicts beliefs held on faith. I am puzzled, however, by people who pride themselves on being rational individuals but engage in irrational behavior.
#5 | POSTED BY ZOMBIEHUNTER

I read the the scientific research on nutritional medicine fairly regularly and I've been practicing it for 40 years. You have no idea how backward allotropic medicine is. And as you've argued so often, you don't want to know. It pisses me off how people are paying outrageous prices to poison themselves. The death toll from poisonings is staggering, it's criminal!

I read the the scientific research on nutritional medicine fairly regularly

How can you hope to do so withtout an understanding.

It pisses me off how people are paying outrageous prices to poison themselves.

I never knew you hated ayurvedic medicine that much. You do realize that any sort of medicine only forestalls the inevitable, and like everything else in nature it involves some sort of trade-off. The number of people whose skin sloughs off because of a rare reaction to certain antibiotics is far less than the number of people who would die from bacterial infections if antibiotics were not used. Make no mistake - you will die. All any medicine can hope to do is alter the time and cause of death in your favor.

...without an understanding of basic biology.

I read the the scientific research on nutritional medicine fairly regularly

What literature is that Ray and where do you find it?

Dare I ask whether you mean "literature" to be double-blinded studies that present actual data? Or are you referring to Mercola "articles" that spout BS while misquoting, cherry picking or miss citing real literature?

According to federal deficit calculators at USDebtClock.org, more than $57 trillion is currently owed, including $39 trillion(T) in medicaid/medicare debt, $10T in social security payables, plus $8T in prescription drug liabilities, levying$189,210.00 in servitude upon every American citizen.

57 Trillion Reasons

Dare I ask whether you mean "literature" to be double-blinded studies that present actual data?

A friend of mine is in naturopathic medical school out west (what that entails is another story). She showed me what was supposed to be a high-impact "alternative medicine" journal widely respected by naturopaths. It made me cringe. 5th graders do a better job of designing science fair projects.

The ads in it were funny, though... a bunch of sales pitches for Cherokee hair tampons and magic medicine from Chief Stool Runs Freely.

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