Who doesn't hate Texas? More to the point, what is there to like about Texas?

what is there to like about Texas?

It is not closer to me.

"what is there to like about Texas?"

You're not here.

That old hotel is expensive. I took a girl for a weekend. cost 400 bucks for 2 nights.

Well...was it worth it?

oh boy

another thread on texas.
there is ALMOST as many jealous of texas and texans as there are people who are scared to death of palin

there is ALMOST as many jealous of texas and texans as there are people who are scared to death of palin

#6 | Posted by afkabl2

Also..

Night is day. Up is down. Black is white..

More to the point, what is there to like about Texas?

Nothing. Stay away. And please, get the word out faster. People keep pouring in.

Who doesn't hate Texas? More to the point, what is there to like about Texas?

#1 | Posted by Lee_Atwater at 2009-11-18 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

Where the hell do you live? I mean do people actually think NY or LA are better than Houston, Dallas, San Antonio or Austin? What about Chicago? Indy? Pittsburgh? Charlotte? Nashville?

Just where do you people think it is nice to live? More liberal elitism run rampant. Like Goat says, stay the fuck away then - we don't need ya.

YES GOAT

I believe its one thousand people a day.

and why??

because IM here??

well thats part of it

how about JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS.

still around because of REPUBLICANS running the place and giving small business tax cuts..

oh yeah...IM here too........

The rig monkey and aflacababble are two good reasons.

how about JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS.

and low COL, no state taxes. Beaches, mountains, high plains, forests, desert, hills, and grasslands (pretty much a little bit of the rest of the country). Good weather, friendly people, diverse cultures.

But it really does suck. Stay away, please. Thanks.

OH I get it

yeah you are right

what person would want to live in this hellhole?

wink wink...

Elcid, Your headline is bogus, not on your left-right mindless BS you blabber, but the underlying story has nothing to do with Obama in the first place.

HURRICANE IKE AFTERMATH
Ike victims say they feel pressure to leave trailers

If you were to honestly portray this story, Homeland, FEMA need to be addressed as the culprits. And no, the issue behind the story is not isolated to Texas, so whatever your agenda for posting this headline is completely bogus.

People keep pouring in.

#8 | Posted by goatman at 2009-11-18 12:22 PM

The "guest laborers" have to get in somewhere.

I love it when people pick on Texas(state with no recession) from the unemployment line.

TFF

Living in California, it's currently hard to rag on Texas. (For me personally though, with my own home and secure job, SoCal is the greatest place on Earth.) My problem with Texas has more to do with "Texans" in the abstract (a la GWB and Ken Lay) than "Texans" who I may know on a personal basis,.

The "guest laborers" have to get in somewhere.

"Guest laborers" aka blue staters. Yes, they do don't they, itsy?

Where the hell do you live? I mean do people actually think NY or LA are better than Houston, Dallas, San Antonio or Austin? What about Chicago? Indy? Pittsburgh? Charlotte? Nashville?

Just where do you people think it is nice to live? More liberal elitism run rampant. Like Goat says, stay the fuck away then - we don't need ya.

#9 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

That's another thing that's so funny about these Texas sour grapers. They whine, "Texas sucks, Texas sucks". For once I'd like to hear one of them say, "Texas sucks, but my state _______ is so much better because . . .".

Anyway, I just hope the word spreads about this awful place. I'm seeing a repeat of the Great Rust Belt Migration of the early '80s. I guess people are just masochists and want to insert themselves into the most awful state in the union. Go figure.

Quite telling.

That's another thing that's so funny about these Texas sour grapers. They whine, "Texas sucks, Texas sucks". For once I'd like to hear one of them say, "Texas sucks, but my state _______ is so much better because . . .".

Goat, you have to admit that your state has a higher-than-average concentration of rightwing extremists and and Latin gang bangers. That doesn't make the entire state a shithole, and it doesn't make the people who live there shitheads. I'm sure these groups annoy Texans more than they annoy anyone else. You have to live with them.

I can actually see FEMA's point. Ike was in September of 2008. How long do we need to give people before they move into an apartment, or get a home built?

That said, there are still thousands of people still living in trailers from Katrina, which was in 2005. It's ridiculous.

Texas is full of people who (egos aside) can actually think for themselves. That drives Marxist Liberals (that's right, I said it) like Obama crazy. They believe that their purpose in life is to take care of everyone else. Texans don't like that. If you haven't been to the River Walk during Fiesta, you haven't lived.

"Texas is full of people who (egos aside) can actually think for themselves. "

Yeah.

Texas's ranking among the 50 states...

* Scholastic Assessment Test (SAT) Scores

47th

* Percentage of Population over 25 with a High School Diploma

50th

#14 | Posted by L_RContrarian at 2009-11-18 01:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

You mean like Katrina and Bush? That was a FEMA call also - right?

So is your point that those dumb Texans are still smarter than New Yorkers, Californians, Michigan, Illinois, etc. given that the Texans:
*are still employed with few real signs of a recession
*are not nor have they ever been a financial burden on the rest of the nation
*actually have an economy based on producing things instead of playing with other peoples money or entertainment
*have a lower crime rate than the afformentioned states
*have a way to deal with the criminals that do transfer in from other states
*And most importantly....Texans really don't give a damn what you, Pelosi, Reid, or Obama think. They would prefer you keep your ass out of Texas to begin with. But if you do show up, unlike the afformentioned states, they will at least be nice to you.

If you haven't been to the River Walk during Fiesta, you haven't lived.

#22 | Posted by SpokaneJim

When is the Fiesta held?

I think there have been decent Texans. (When we fled Hitler, my dad insisted that some decent Germans existed.) Jim Hightower is a gem. I think a senator named Yarborough, who may not have been the same decent Texan who was once mayor of San Antonio. Ann Richards and Molly Ivins were icons - goddesses - but they is daid! Someone said The Dixie Chicks. Are they Texans? Still alive? herm

More to the point, what is there to like about Texas?

#1 | Posted by Lee_Atwater

Hmmm. When you look in the rearview mirror and you see the state line fading in the distance. That's when I like Texas best.

Well being a Packer fan, I'm really lovin' Dallas right now!!

Hi Corky!!! : )

California is still the best

California is still the best

Unless you want a job.

90c2cab

A number of your posts lead me to believe you live in Texas -- or at least know the state? I'm going to give Texas a try when I move -- at least for six months or so. Maybe you could help me out with some suggestions?

I had considered Austin (but ruled it out) and then Houston but after reading up on it, it didn't appeal to me -- too big and sprawled out like Los Angeles. So I had given serious thought to renting in San Antonio as it seemed like a good medium-sized city (1/4th the population of Los Angeles) and a good jumping off point as I'd like to also visit other states in the Southern area of the U.S. when I have the chance.

But I'm still going to toss places around for consideration until the last minute so could you give me your opinion on a few other cities I maybe hadn't yet thought of other than the ones I just named -- Austin, San Antonio, and Houston.

What is Dallas like? Is Dallas just another big city (which if too large I don't think would appeal to me all that much as I wanted more of a "Texas flavor" usually gotten with in a smaller urban city). What about the weather there? Is Dallas where they had one solid month of triple-digit weather a summer or two ago?

Any larger medium-sized cities in Texas you might suggest I take a look at and maybe hadn't heard of -- someplace not all that far a drive from the water and countryside but still plenty of "city" perks with places to go. I have an AAA book on Texas (it's huge) so I can look up any of your suggestions. I don't want to live in western Texas -- too dry and barren.

I have a cousin and he and his family work and live around College Station (but haven't had contact with him since I was a little kid). College Station sounded more like some univerity town with a ton of college kids and that wouldn't interest me. But then I've never been there.

Anyway, until I leave here, I'm open to hearing about other cities to move to in Texas if you might have any suggestions. Not way out in the country but not too big of a city either. Thanks.

"I'm going to give Texas a try when I move -- at least for six months or so. Maybe you could help me out with some suggestions?"

I have one for you Chris....

CHANGE YOUR MIND!!!!! : )

California is still the best

#30 | Posted by dxlingr at 2009-11-18 09:37 PM

You live around Santa Barbara so of course you'd love it, dxlingr.

Glad you and your sister made it through that fire last year okay. As you know, my area of Los Angeles had the biggest fire since around 1989 only a few months ago. But, hey, that's L.A. -- fires, quakes, landslides. It ain't dull, that's for sure!

I'm going to give Texas a try when I move

I always wanted to spend some time in Arizona, actually. I have relatives who once lived in the American southwest and they told me it's a hiker's paradise.

CHANGE YOUR MIND!!!!! : )

#33 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-11-18 10:02 PM

LOL!

I'll give it six months or so. Should have an idea by then whether I like Texas or not. If I don't, I can always move on. I'm going to go there with an open mind as I know it takes time to get used to any new place.

You live now in Missouri, Lisa, or was it another state? I know you mentioned it to me not long ago where you were living and I'm sorry I've forgotten. (I've had like a zillion things on my mind these last 3 months or so.) All I know is you seem to love where you are now.

PS -- My relatives left early leaving me with two rooms to paint on my own -- one bedroom and the kitchen. Can you believe I've never painted a room before! So I'm going to hit you up very soon for some "how to paint a room" instructions. (Either you or youtube -- or both!) Your wallpaper removal tips were terrific. I'd still be dragging it off the wall if it weren't for you telling me about fabric softener. lol

I always wanted to spend some time in Arizona, actually. I have relatives who once lived in the American southwest and they told me it's a hiker's paradise.

#35 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-11-18 10:06 PM

You should hook up with BobAz. He can show you the good local hiking trails around Phoenix and you can protect him from any zombie attacks. : )

correction to my #34

"...my area of Los Angeles had the biggest fire since around 1989 only a few months ago."

should have been

"... since around 1889....

I live in the Allegheny Mountains and LOVE it Chris!

I'm hoping we won't leave here for quite awhile!

You've never painted before?

Don't waste money on taping around the woodwork. Just get a two inch angel brush and carry a wet rag with with incase of a little slip. That will save some money.

Don't let the roller get too dry, it will remove the paint you're already put on the wall that may still be wet.

Don't fill the roller up with too much paint either. You'll be wearing polka dots of that color as well as anything else that is around.

Use a drop cloth.

See...not much to it!! : )

I have one for you Chris....

CHANGE YOUR MIND!!!!! : )

#33 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-11-18 10:02 PM

I was wondering why. Have you ever lived in Texas yourself? Or are you saying that just from things you've heard about it?

One of my brothers lives in San Antonio. I've been there several times.

I also have been to Dallas a couple of times.

Not my cup of tea.

Too busy, dirty, unfriendly people.

And they don't know how to drive.

It's no wonder they keep shot guns in their pick up trucks....for the road rage!

Lisa hates the Cowboys.

Arizona is indeed a beautiful state. So is New Mexico.

I don't hate anyone, Goatman.

But it sure was fun rubbing my husbands nose in the Cowgirl loss. He LOVES them!

Too busy, dirty, unfriendly people.

That's a very odd though I'll admit Dallas has some stuck up and unfriendly people. Not coincidentally, that is where most of the Rust Belt emigrees ended up. San Antonio, like most of the rest of Texas, is full of friendly people.

And they don't know how to drive.

My niece says that about me. Why? Because I do the speed limit and frequently stop or slow down to allow others to make lane changes or enter the main road from another.

Lisa --

Dumb question for ya on the painting -- do I start at the top with the roller and go straight down the wall or sweep kind of side to side?

And no masking tape? Is an angel brush just a tiny brush? (I'll look it up.) Should I use lasix (sp?) paint on the bedroom? What about the type of paint for the kitchen? Same as for the bedroom? I'd heard the paint in the kitchen is usually a different type due to grease, etc.

OH -- ONE MORE THING

I took off the steel rim (was in four pieces) all around the kitchen sink and cleaned out all the grout inside of them. They are each about 1 inch wide and 1/2 inch high and fit all around the sink as a trim. Then I steam cleaned where they had been in place for years! Now I'm going to regrout and put them back in place.

My question -- You once said something about using a sealer (?) right after you have put the grout in place, was that right? Just wanted to make sure I do it right this time as before my grout never seemed to stay in.

Will be doing both projects in the next few days. Thanks again for your help, Lisa.

"My niece says that about me. Why? Because I do the speed limit and frequently stop or slow down to allow others to make lane changes or enter the main road from another."

I do the same thing.

We live in a small community..only about 1600 people with one gas station...four pumps! lol

It's located in a really bad spot on Main street and it's hard to get in or out of there.

I always allow people to go in or leave without having them wait for traffic to slow down.

Everyone here is very patient with that stuff.

Too busy, dirty, unfriendly people.

Dirty? In what way?

As for crazy drivers -- hey, that's one thing I'm used to. I'm from L.A.

The roads were dirty..littered.

Dallas was really bad when I was there.

Traffic was terrible.

UGH...I'm getting hives just thinking about it!

Arizona is indeed a beautiful state. So is New Mexico.

Those states are huge, too. There's a lot of "nothing" out there to see. I don't often get the experience of driving down a road and seeing nothing but the remains of ancient mountains sculpted by millions of years of wind and water erosion. Nothing humans create can rival the beauty of nature.

Chris:

It's Latex paint...lol.

You should run your roller in all different directions, especially if your walls have texure of any kind on them. It helps to make sure that everything gets coated.

Just be careful that when you stop in an area, you don't leave a heavy roller line of paint.

I had a subcontractor do that....drove me nuts.

It's best that when you need to stop either for the day or to add more paint to your roller that you feather the paint out. By that I mean as you are rolling lift up and away from the wall so you don't leave a thicker paint line.

But...I'm OCD so most people wouldn't do that.

LOL

...the remains of ancient mountains sculpted by millions of years of wind and water erosion

Have you been to Big Bend Natioal Park? The mountains there (so the brochure touts) are the only ones in the world where a new mountain range erupted under an ancient one. Sure enough you can see the ancient Appalachian type mountains amidst jagged Rocky type mountains. There are also lots of other interesting geological features.

If you've never been there, it's worth the trip.

Oh...and truthfully, I use Satin finish in every room.

It washes well and is very durable.

I know you won't be living there but Behr Paint is absolutely the best...only at Home Depot.

Covers beautifully and most times in one coat!

#50 and #52 -- Thanks, Lisa!

Any time sista!!

Have you been to Big Bend Natioal Park?

Nope, but it's been on my list of places to visit for awhile.

...I don't often get the experience of driving down a road and seeing nothing but the remains of ancient mountains sculpted by millions of years of wind and water erosion. Nothing humans create can rival the beauty of nature.

#49 | Posted by ZombieHunter

The desert has a unique beauty all its own. People tend to look out their car windows and see "nothing" but an arid vastness, but actually the desert is alive with things to see -- colors, shapes, changing of shadows depending on the time of day -- if one would only take the time to really look.

Here are some shots I took at Big Bend last April:

CHRIS

When I lived at Grand Canyon Village, one of my fondest memories is getting up early before dawn just to watch the canyon change colors.

I never understood how some people could say, it's just a hole in the ground. Like the desert, it's just brimming with a life all it's own.

Great photos, Goatman.

#25 When is Fiesta? April

Thanks A1. I just looked at them again. Actually, not all are Big Bend, but near. The bridge is over the Pecos River. The old store is in Langtry, home of the famous Judge Roy Bean. His original Saloon where he held court is still there.

I never understood how some people could say, it's just a hole in the ground.

Nor I. It is one of the most beautiful things I have seeen in my life, especially from the N Rim.

CHRIS

I just read up page that you're thinking about moving to Texas.

I never speak badly about any place I've lived because all cities have their good and bad points.

But I've got to tell you, after a year in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, I was never so glad to be shed of a place in all my life.

If I told you what I said to my rear view mirror when I crossed into Oklahoma, I'd probably get an "Abuse of Texas" flag.

#31 - By all means take a look at San Antonio. Hotter, but less humid. Houston has lots of stuff to do, as any big city, and Galveston isn't too far away for beaches and such. But SA has Corpus Christi just down the highway. Austin is perhaps the greenest and cleanest of the cities, very modern with a very high standard of living (Dell millionaires). Dallas has cleaned up quite a bit, and is also a very modern city. Not as sprawlled as Houston, but the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex is as large as anything other than LA and NYC. I've lived in all three, plus Texarkana (AHHH!) and Amrillo (HOT!) Texas takes a lot of crap, some deserving, some not. But SA is one of the leading communities in the nation for job growth and real estate market, and I never ran out of things to do. Zoo, museums, Sea World, Six Flags, Schlitterbahn, Missions, the River Walk, etc. Great choice. Now if it weren't so god awful hot....

Jim -- my wife was from Spokane. Did you know anyone named Lang?

Mr. Goat, the only Langs I know are from the Oklahoma hills, so probably not the same. I've not been here too long, though, just for a few years before moving on. Maybe back to Texas, but the wife is angling for Colorado.

SPOKANE

I've never lived in San Antonio (did a drive by once) but I had an aunt who moved there. I didn't see her for a couple years but when she came home for a visit, I swesr that the sun had aged her skin by ten yesrs. She looked absolutely terrible.

So, yeah, I'd say if you don't like blistering sun, avoid San Antonio.

I love the blistering sun! I hate the cold, i.e. anything less than 50F. I am proud to say that I don't even own a winter coat.

#64 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2009-11-18 11:30 PM

Thanks, Jim.

#27 | Posted by herm at 2009-11-18 08:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

What septic system did you come from HERM? Jersey? San Fransicko? Berkely? Cuba? It could not have been any sane city for sure.

If you haven't been to the River Walk during Fiesta, you haven't lived.

#22 | Posted by SpokaneJim

When is the Fiesta held?

#26 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009

I believe its in the spring around april or may

it is one crazy place and in some ways better than mardi gras.

Anyway, until I leave here, I'm open to hearing about other cities to move to in Texas if you might have any suggestions. Not way out in the country but not too big of a city either. Thanks.

#32 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-11-18 10:00 PM |

Ill say it again
look at austin. nice city with lots of things to do and hill country real close..,.some beautifull places to hike and camp and just watch the sunset.

and its liberal enough that you wont have california withdrawels.......lol

BUT be ready for a HUMIDITY JOLT!!!!!!!

College Station sounded more like some univerity town with a ton of college kids and that wouldn't interest me. But then I've never been there.

#32 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-11-18 10:00 PM |

Hey Chris, I lived in College Station for six years (just moved from there about 1 1/2 years ago actually). I absolutely loved it! It is small enough to not have a TON of traffic problems, a fairly low crime rate, and have a small city feel but big enough to have enough do on the weekend (besides just going to the bar). There ware also a lot of great community perks - a ton of parks, live music at the community amplitheater in the summer, close to a fairly large lake, and the university draws quite a few international cultural events (I saw a Tuvan Throat Singing event from Mongolia once). It's also close enough to Houston and Austin if you needed to get away for an evening or weekend.

It IS a college town, so there are a lot of young kids running around, but if you're not hanging around the campus, you don't see it very often (except on football weekends, A&M loves its college football!) It's also a fairly conservative town, so that may be a downer for some (although I think you're right of center...?) I live in Houston now and if I had the chance, I'd move back in a heartbeat. Anyways, good luck with your moving decision!

TWINPAC

...I've never lived in San Antonio (did a drive by once) but I had an aunt who moved there. I didn't see her for a couple years but when she came home for a visit, I swear that the sun had aged her skin by ten yesrs. She looked absolutely terrible.

...I live in Houston now and if I had the chance, I'd move back [to College Station] in a heartbeat. Anyways, good luck with your moving decision!

#73 | Posted by bartimus at 2009-11-19 02:48 PM

Thanks, Bartimus, for taking the time to write and tell me all about College Station, TX, and to SPOKANEJIM last night for his recommendation on moving to San Antonio along with AFKABL2 for his always humorous Texas commentary. And thanks to SILVER_IRONIST who gave me really helpful info on what to look for in finding a realtor along with OZARKAGGIE who one time did an entire thread to help me find me a place to move!

I know you all must be sick and tired of hearing about me moving but I never owned -- let alone had to sell -- a house and then had to pack up everything and move out of state all on top of losing my Mom last year. When you're doing something this major all on your own for the first time with no one at all here to help you, it can be very intimidating. But it's almost all done now and I've appreciated the support many of you here on DR have given me more than you know.

I decided on Texas after reading all the "pro/con Texas debates" here on DR. lol I figured Texas must have something special going for it to bring out so much loyalty in those who live there. And to me, as a Californian, Texas just didn't seem like I was moving all that far away than if I moved back East somewhere.

Funny how people you've known for not all that long and only on a blog can sometimes be as supportive and caring as a family member and/or friends you know in person -- at times even more so. Anyway, as I said, thanks for the support and hope I can return the favor to a few of you one day.

(And, JerryTarkanian -- if you say "Chrissy Drama" after reading this post I'll reach across cyberspace and give you a knuckle sandwich.)

CHRIS

You've more than earned the respect of everybody onthe DR.

BTW, I looked at my chrystal ball today and it said CORPUS CHRISTI.

I hope it was right. Good luck.

CHRIS

You've more than earned the respect of everybody onthe DR.

BTW, I looked at my chrystal ball today and it said CORPUS CHRISTI.

I hope it was right. Good luck.

#76 | Posted by Twinpac at 2009-11-20 02:05 AM

Thanks, Twinpac. And, by the way, you were one of the ones included in those I was saying "thanks" to for the support.

Hey, maybe when I've been there a little while I'll have learned how to make some good Texas chili (not too hot though!) and if you're ever out that way I'll cook some up. Or we could just go to a fun (air conditioned!) cowboy bar and whoop it up. LOL

CHRIS

Line dancing is my life. LOL

And if you ever decide you want to trip on over to Ft. Lauderdale, well, my home is your home.

You've taken on a big "nut" to crack, my friend.

However, if anybody can do it . . . it's you.

I have absolute faith!

Why does Obama hate Texans?

Hmmm, dunno but if Spud had to hazard a guess he'd go with "Cos they have a higher concentration of retarded, racist asswipes than any other state in the US".

Wozzat?

Headline was a joke?

Well, so was that last statement by Spud then.

Now we can all have a big larf.

UC how this werks?

Be Well.

cali
in texas? when n where. have mucho cool family in cllage stat. nice place.

rode

now austin has it all

Because unlike the Gelding-in-chief, Texan guys have gonads?

..Texan guys have gonads?

Yeah, Texan women keep 'em in their purses.

Be Well.

now austin has it all

Including the highest CoLA in Texas. Austin is nice, but SA, just 70 miles away, is also very nice and is much more affordadable.

...By all means take a look at San Antonio....SA is one of the leading communities in the nation for job growth and real estate market, and I never ran out of things to do. Zoo, museums, Sea World, Six Flags, Schlitterbahn, Missions, the River Walk, etc. Great choice. Now if it weren't so god awful hot....

#64 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2009-11-18 11:30 PM

...but SA, just 70 miles away, is also very nice and is much more affordadable.

#84 | Posted by goatman at 2009-11-20 05:50 AM

Don't know if you guys will even see this post now as this thread is off the Front Page, but if you do I'd appreciate some advice.