God whispers into morons' ears and tells them to commit the crime of vandalism. At least it's not as bad as what He told George Bush.

"God whispers into morons' ears and tells them to commit the crime...... At least it's not as bad as what He told George Bush."

Posted by danni at 2009-11-14 07:25 PM | Reply

Yep, that seems to be an issue for most of Obama's cabinet, close circle and many of the Dems in the government....

Too many to name but I do believe you get the gist.

Rangel? Geithner? Two name two.

Or could it be............................
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"American Humanist Association "

These guys have some spine. Where do you send donations?

""The irony here is worth noting. Some individuals are committing criminal acts while apparently claiming that their religious view of the world leads to good behavior. It's not a very convincing argument on their part."

Stupid rightwing Christians never get it. Dumber than dirt.

The snarling, snapping reactions from "The Chapel" and ilk simply demonstrate the fact that "The Faithful" have been backed into a corner...

...in nature, an animal that has no other recourse will strike out against the threatening...against the unfamiliar.

The neurodegenerative disease of "True Faith" is in its end days. We are witnessing the birthing pangs of true rationality, accompanied by the requisite irrationality from the Gawd folks...too bad it took a couple of millennia to mature!

We should start feeding Christians to the lions again.

"Time to evolve ideas, people!" ~ the late, great Bill Hicks.

We should start feeding Christians to the lions again.

Nah! Just send 'em all to the War they started in the Middle East-then don't let 'em come back.

#5

I should die because I'm a Christian and your belief is different?

What makes you any different from Islamic extremists who we consider terrorists because of their beliefs and want us to die?

Nothing.

Something about that Headline doesn't seem right......Aha! Got it!

"Mindless-hate-filled Christians deface 2nd Billboard"......

Better, closer to reality Headline
Fixed It For Ya..........

No hatred in your post #6, huh Frank??

Nawww!

"We are witnessing the birthing pangs of true rationality, accompanied by the requisite irrationality from the Gawd folks...too bad it took a couple of millennia to mature!"

I'm afraid you're too optimistic. Science could explain the entire universe and cross every "t" and dot every "i" and the theists would still persist. Could be something Freudian in their need for a mystical, invisible father figure.

It will probably take centuries to eradicate the disease of organized religion.

LOL Null.

You, with some others here are so full of hate towards Christians you can't even see straight.

I am so thankful I am not you!

I wouldn't want to wake up in the morning if I was that full of hatred.

I don't understand how you can do it.

I'll pray for you.

Try and enjoy the rest of your evening.

"You, with some others here are so full of hate towards Christians"

Me? Not at all. I hate the sin, but love the sinner.

Religion is a disease. I didn't say anything about Christianity. That's your focus. My focus is on theism, and monotheism in particular, the most historically violent and murderous of all theisms.

I'd rather have Theism than Teeism cause a Teeism would hurt.

Larry

Oh and damn those American Islamofascists bwhahahahaha I swear.

I swear to God Chapel has to be Niceville.

Who could be so dumb?

Teeism? wtf is that?

Foreeeeeeeeee

I don't condone the act of defacing any of these signs.

I am curious, though, about the reaction here.

If the signs espouse a pro-religious message and they were defaced by vandals who held atheistic beliefs, would you characterize their actions as: "hatefilled" and would they receive from you the scorn found here on this thread?

Or would your mind be able to rationalize the action as justifiable in the battle against organized religion which you believe is necessary?

If so, is the only difference between a vandal and hero then the fact that you believe in the cause?

In general I think people or organizations who put up these kinds of signs--either pro religion or against it-- do not do so with the hopes of winning converts, but with the intention of picking a fight. They do so out of the delight of antagonizing the other side, and I think a part of them actually hopes their signs will be vandalized. It helps them feel self-righteous and gives them a reason to vent their disgust at the other side.

If one wants peace, one needs to resist the urge to fight.

"I swear to God Chapel has to be Niceville."

The thought has crossed my mind a time or two also.

"In general I think people or organizations who put up these kinds of signs--either pro religion or against it-- do not do so with the hopes of winning converts, but with the intention of picking a fight."

Could it also be possible that they wanted to help other atheist to not be afraid to express their non-belief???? None of these messages were specifically against religion, more like they were just asking religionists to acknowledge that atheists are moral people which many Christians fervently deny.

Could it also be possible that they wanted to help other atheist to not be afraid to express their non-belief???

While not a specific "believer", myself, I'd like to know why the fuck anyone who DOESN'T believe want to express their non-belief? I mean, other than wanting to belittle other's beliefs, why bother expressing anything? Why not just keep your mour mouth shut?

Oh, yeah....it's the hate-filled, intolerant left that's so vocal about such things...and we can't criticize them, can we?...

You bunch of worthless fucking Hypocrats.

Could it also be possible that they wanted to help other atheist to not be afraid to express their non-belief???? None of these messages were specifically against religion, more like they were just asking religionists to acknowledge that atheists are moral people which many Christians fervently deny.

Of course it is possible.

It seems to me from my in part of the country, that in a general public conversations that people squirm not when someone expresses their doubts or disbelief about the existence of God, but when an individual expresses his or her religious beliefs as part of a general conversation.

It seems that most people I know I are so concerned about religious tolerance that they fear simply discussing their beliefs out of a fear of offending someone or the fear that their beliefs might come across as judgmental of another's.

Since our public society is aggressively secular, those who have no beliefs have no fear of saying so.

Again, this may be peculiar to my particular part of the country.

At exactly what point does "non-belief' differ from "belief"? Isn't "non-belief", by default, a belief?

"I'd like to know why the fuck anyone who DOESN'T believe want to express their non-belief? I mean, other than wanting to belittle other's beliefs, why bother expressing anything? Why not just keep your mour mouth shut?"

Tell you what. You theists keep your mouth shut and stop trying to stuff your stupid fucking superstitious religious bullshit down our throats and I will too. Deal?

"While not a specific "believer", myself, I'd like to know why the fuck anyone who DOESN'T believe want to express their non-belief?"

Cuz it's a free country and they want to, so how does that give anyone a right to vandalise it?
Perhaps they understood the liklihood of vandalism by those who do believe in God and thought....what a perfect way to demonstrate that morality has nothing to do with religion or belief in God.
If believers are so willing to commit crimes and destroy property then isn't the religion they are so proud of a bit hypocritical. And if it is then isn't it also a bunch of bull shit???

Nulli, I'm far from a theist...if you've not figured that much out about me by now, then you're even slower than Rex had you pegged for. I'm just against hateful people using other people's beliefs as clubs to try and subdue them. On a personal level, I wish we could all smoke a few bowls and commune with one and another. With the left being as full of hate as they are,(as opposed to the right being a bunch of prudes), then I can't forsee that happening in my lifetime. Remember the saying.."You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar"?

Point is, neither side is willing to say the other sid may have a point. A couple of instances of righties defiling a friggin' billboard is hardly an indictment of the entire body of Christ.

Fucking morons.

God-damned stupid fucking morons, to be exact.

On both fucking sides.

If believers are so willing to commit crimes and destroy property then isn't the religion they are so proud of a bit hypocritical. And if it is then isn't it also a bunch of bull shit???

Let me repeat, I don't condone the vandalizing of the signs.

I can, however, answer your questions if you truly want an answer.

It is a simple matter of priorities in which one set of beliefs is seen as an higher authority than another.

As Americans we believe in the law and the importance of following it. That being said, there comes a times when beliefs in what are perceived to be higher authorities or law are seen to supersede the law of the land.

Demonstrators throughout this country have defied the law and gotten themselves arrested for all sorts of causes, many of which I bet you believe(d) in. Why? Because they and perhaps you believe their cause is greater than the law of the land. (Where would the sixties have been without such an idea?)

In this particular case you simply do not believe in the cause, therefore, you see the act of breaking the law as wrong and hypocritical of people who are suppose to hold themselves to a high standard of morality.

Cuz it's a free country and they want to, so how does that give anyone a right to vandalise it?

Well, I guess if it's a good enough reason(not agreeing with a situation) for Bill Ayers to bomb the friggin' Pentagon, then it should also suffice for a few inanimate billboards. It's not like there were explosives involved.

Dang, Grendel...great post...

American1st,

You in a sense alluded to what I said in post 31.

I am signing off now. Good night all.

Could it also be possible that they wanted to help other atheist to not be afraid to express their non-belief?

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The irony, of course, is that many atheists want the religious to keep to keep their religion to themselves.

You know life is too difficult the way it is without someone ANYONE making a big ole stink about who believes in what or who doesn't. I could give a shit less. Just irks Me to no end it really does.

Larry

Isn't the spreading of non-belief the exact same thing as spreading belief? It's all a POV, and neither should be silenced, nor have preference over the other. Two dogs barking at each other through a thick wire fence. They should have gone hoarse by now.

"Nulli, I'm far from a theist...if you've not figured that much out about me by now,"

I don't spend a whole lot of time memorizing where other posters stand on the theist-nontheist scale.

Technically speaking Yes a Non belief in something is still a belief in Nothing.

Larry

Just because I'm barely to the right of center doesn't make me a Neocon, Null. I'm actually fairly liberal, except when it come to taxing people. There, I'm a hardline conservative. I think the government creates more problems than they solve. Mostly, because the government is comprised of people, and people are notoriously corrupt. The fewer people in control, the less corruption you have. Over-simplified belief, but as good as anything else I've read here on the Retort.

Keep sucking that imaginary dick.

I'll go one better frank55, send all of them, every christian, jew, muslim, hindi.

Combined, they are the greatest threat to humanity and liberty.

Sorry grendel, all truth, whether intellectual or material, is observable. You also try to equate the just causes of humanity, with a clearly criminal act designed to denigrate the message. Also, your observation of aggresively secular society is, well, absurd. That this false beleif has permeated my society, at every level. Or that your beleif is unlawfully protected and and espoused(in violation of the constitution), which is nothing short of an establishment of respect for your beleif. Like the govcorpco. establishing what is and isnt just religious beleif, which is outside of any authority they have.

You are all fucking terrorists, and should expire as such. Please.

The old argument has always been that atheist's views can not be categorized as a "religion".

They seem to always sneak through the cracks of separation of church and state by claiming they aren't a religion, therefore their views can not be regulated and censored the way Christian's views are.

For example, in schools the personal beliefs of Christian teachers are suppressed, while the views of atheist teachers are not.

Atheists are demanding Christian icons be removed from government buildings, and are gaining ground.

I think the point being made by this particular article is that atheists are proving what Christians have always said.

Atheist's beliefs can be categorized as a "religion", and are bound by the same laws that separate church and state.

If one wants peace, one needs to resist the urge to fight.
......#19 | Posted by Grendel

....resist the urge to fight.....or...the urge to fight back ?......

....believers are causing huge grief around the world in the name of their god: murder, rape, destruction, war........

.....the first step to slowing down the carnage-in-the-name of god, is to spread the truth.......

The old argument has always been that atheist's views can not be categorized as a "religion".
......#41 | Posted by BillJohnson

.....so if atheism is a religion......

.....then what would you call the lack of a religion ?......

Skiz,

"so if atheism is a religion......
.....then what would you call the lack of a religion ?......"

I guess it all depends on if you simply believe in "not believing", or if you take it on the road and teach others to believe like you.

Once this group decided to talk about "God", they made a religious statement.

You can't have it both ways.

Christians have been confounded by the fact our laws prevent us from speaking in certain forums.

Why should atheists be allowed to talk about "God" in those same places?

I'm not saying these people don't have a right to make this billboard.

However, they should accept the fact they are spreading a "religious message" and are going to be up against the same laws Christian evangelicals deal with.

#44 | Posted by BillJohnson

.....you have'nt answered the question.......

.....and I think that you can't answer it, because your premise is wrong.........

......if atheism is a religion as you state, then what is the state of being called, when a person does not have a religion ?.........

I guess it all depends on if you simply believe in "not believing", or if you take it on the road and teach others to believe like you.
.......#44 | Posted by BillJohnson

......you are making a distinction between a belief, and proselytizing that belief.......

.......and you are stating that the simple act of proselytizing, will turn a belief, into a religion.......

......that is clearly a false premise........

........if it were true, then any attempt to convince you of something "Cheer is the best laundry detergent" would be the foundation of a religion........

Why should atheists be allowed to talk about "God" in those same places?
.....#44 | Posted by BillJohnson

.....atheists are not promoting a God in the same places, we wish to EXCISE the concept of God from public policy........

......it is easy for Christians to understand the harm another religion does to its own society (muslims denigrating women) but it is almost impossible for a Religionist to see the damage his/her own religion causes to their OWN society.....

......that's why then need us to speak up........

the fact they are spreading a "religious message"
.....#45 | Posted by BillJohnson

.....they are spreading an ANTI-RELIGIOUS message....

Skiz,

The way I see it, atheism becomes a "religion" bound by the laws separating church and state when a person begins teaching it to others. It takes on structure and teaches about "God".

If you simply believe in nothing, I think you pretty well defined it yourself. You're a person who "does not have a religion".

If you simply believe in nothing, I think you pretty well defined it yourself. You're a person who "does not have a religion".
......#50 | Posted by BillJohnson

.....they call that an 'atheist' , Bill.......

The way I see it, atheism becomes a "religion" bound by the laws separating church and state when a person begins teaching it to others.
50 | Posted by BillJohnson

.....according to your logic.......

.....chemistry would become a religion once someone started teaching it.........

.....and that is clearly not the case........

......atheism is not a religion, it is the CURE, or, anti-thesis, for religion.......

Skiz,

If you're teaching about "God", it's a religous message. If you're teaching about being "anti-religous", it's a religious message.

Now.....I personally fall into a different group.

I'm a bit "anti-organized religion". That doesn't mean I don't believe in God.

It simply means I think mankind over the many centuries has taken something spirtual and tried to turn it into something highly structured and controlled.

I believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

I accepted the fact preachers and churches can be misguided, without rejecting religion all together.

Read the Bible for yourself. I don't think it was "perfect" as some Christians claim to believe, but it is a way to see into the mind of Christ.

And pray.

Atheists go it alone. Christians don't.

We aren't weak. We're strong. We wear the armor of Christ.

However, I'm not qualifed to speak for God. I can only speak for myself and what I believe.

If you're teaching about "God", it's a religous message.
#53 | Posted by BillJohnson

......and if you are teaching about NOT-God, then it is no longer a religious message......

.....but anyways.....time for me to go watch some football.....take care....

Atheists go it alone. Christians don't.
We aren't weak. We're strong.
........53 | Posted by BillJohnson

....and that is why we are stronger.......because we do go it alone......

"That is why we are stronger, because we do got it alone...."

Well, when it comes to having a puffed up view of yourselves, you match any believer you complain and complain and complain) about.

Someone mentioned "irony" above. An article of atheist faith is that irony is s sort of skin disease always visible on persons other than themselves.

The fellows vandalizing this sign? A ten spot says they are kids between the ages of fourteen and sixteen looking for a bit of attention from their peers.

A bit of attention is one large reason why the atheists creating this sign wanted to have one. For these humanists as for the vandals, all attention is good attention.

So I expect a view more cycles of this.

Skiz,

If you're teaching about "God", it's a religous message. If you're teaching about being "anti-religous", it's a religious message.

Now.....I personally fall into a different group.

I'm a bit "anti-organized religion". That doesn't mean I don't believe in God.

It simply means I think mankind over the many centuries has taken something spirtual and tried to turn it into something highly structured and controlled.

I believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

I accepted the fact preachers and churches can be misguided, without rejecting religion all together.

Read the Bible for yourself. I don't think it was "perfect" as some Christians claim to believe, but it is a way to see into the mind of Christ.

And pray.

Atheists go it alone. Christians don't.

We aren't weak. We're strong. We wear the armor of Christ.

However, I'm not qualifed to speak for God. I can only speak for myself and what I believe.

#53 | Posted by BillJohnson

Great Post Bill. I can definitely say I am in the same boat mostly. I am a member of a church, but a church that is thankfully accepting to all opinions (conservative included). It's pretty awesome considering my partner no longer identifies as a Christian, yet still loves attending the church because it's a wonderful community to be a part of, apart from whatever beliefs you hold. Yeah, they do speak of Jesus being the Truth, the Way, and the Light, but I believe our Pastor is probably more progressive than I.

"That is why we are stronger, because we do got it alone...."

Well, when it comes to having a puffed up view of yourselves, you match any believer you complain and complain and complain) about.

#56 | Posted by Zed

.....I didn't bring up the strength issue, Bill did, I simply pointed out that needing to be part of a herd is not a sign of strength.........

Evangelical atheists are some of the most annoying douchebags around. They don't believe in God but they still have to join a religious organization, attend meetings and spread the word. Mind as well join a church. They're an embarassment to normal atheists who actually have something to do with the time they freed up by rejecting religion other than turning atheism into a religion.

These particular idiots think they are fighting some holy war with this sign, not realizing that bored, drunk teenagers are the most likely culprits.

We aren't weak. We're strong. We wear the armor of Christ.

I'm sure you've also got a +5 Sword of Willful Stupidity and a bag of 20-sided die to go with it.

Evangelical atheists are some of the most annoying douchebags around.
.......#59 | Posted by Sully

.....almost as annoying as the evangelical religious......

.....except we don't ask for donations, rape altar boys, tithe grandma's last dollar, believe in the Tooth Fairy.....

.....or ask you to get up on Sunday morning.......

They don't believe in God but they still have to join a religious organization, attend meetings and spread the word.
.....59 | Posted by Sully

......we just look at it as our duty to humanity to free you from your ignorant superstitions......

.......your welcome........

......we just look at it as our duty to humanity to free you from your ignorant superstitions......

just so we can join you in your rage and hostility towards others of faith?

no thanks. I'll stick to laughing at you and the bible thumpers.

And always.....thanks.

They don't believe in God but they still have to join a religious organization, attend meetings and spread the word.

I've been to three so-called "atheist meetings" and needed to call a cab after each one. Getting wasted and bowling seemed to be the priority, not plotting the downfall of Christianity.

just so we can join you in your rage and hostility towards others of faith?
.......#63 | Posted by eberly

....no rage and hostility here, Eb, just helping educate the slower members of the herd.......

....... nobless oblige as it were .......

......we just look at it as our duty to humanity to free you from your ignorant superstitions......

.......your welcome........

#62 | Posted by skizziks at 2009-11-16 02:12 PM | Reply

Maybe your duty should be going back to school and learning how to write?

just helping educate the slower members of the herd.......

how original. anybody who you disagree with is "slower".

".....almost as annoying as the evangelical religious......"

They behave in the same way and are therefore equally annoying.

"......we just look at it as our duty to humanity to free you from your ignorant superstitions......"

Except I don't know if there is a God or not (I lean towards not) and don't care what anyone else believes in regards to the subject. I just want people to mind their own fucking business. Is that so hard for you evangelical retards - Christian or Atheist - to understand?

".......your welcome........"

LOL. Nobody needs arrogant fools like you to tell them what to believe. Get a life and mind your own business.

".....except we don't ask for donations......"

Yes they do. How do you think they pay for the billboards?

Atheists who join organizations and pay money to spread the word need to attend their silly little meetings for the same reasons the more annoying bible thumpers need to attend church - It affirms their belief system and gives them a sense of superiority over other faiths. They need the sense of belonging and shared beliefs in order to bolster a weak self esteeem. They are boring, self-centered, know-it-alls who give a bad name to normal atheists.

"Demonstrators throughout this country have defied the law and gotten themselves arrested for all sorts of causes, many of which I bet you believe(d) in. Why? Because they and perhaps you believe their cause is greater than the law of the land. (Where would the sixties have been without such an idea?)

In this particular case you simply do not believe in the cause, therefore, you see the act of breaking the law as wrong and hypocritical of people who are suppose to hold themselves to a high standard of morality.
#30 | Posted by Grendel at 2009-11-14 11:51 PM"

You raise an interesting point, Grendel.

OTOH, your point would be more valid and/or have had more impact if the ones involved had 'gotten themselves arrested'. I'm not seeing evidence in these cases of believers willing to take a principled stand and then bearing the consequences. On the contrary, there's much more evidence to support the observation these acts are vandalism perpetrated by cowards.

How do you think they pay for the billboards?

Good point. The money has to come from somewhere. It's wasted money if you ask me. Save it for suing redneck school districts that want to teach intelligent design or some similar quackery.

Well, maybe it's not entirely wasted. Seeing evangelicals squirm is always good for a laugh.

They behave in the same way and are therefore equally annoying.
.......#68 | Posted by Sully

.....you are either dishonest or mistaken.......

.....there are a dozen evangelical tv shows on daily, everyone one of them soliciting money, there is no tv show that I have ever seen soliciting money to advance atheism.........

"......we just look at it as our duty to humanity to free you from your ignorant superstitions......"

Except I don't know if there is a God or not..
.......#68 | Posted by Sully

.....that's why I'm performing this public service, to clear things up for you......

I just want people to mind their own fucking business. Is that so hard for you evangelical retards - Christian or Atheist - to understand?
.......#68 | Posted by Sully

.....you're going to have to start with the Christian evangelicals.........

......once you get their 200 tv shows off the air, we can get back to discussing evangelical atheism and it's hindrance to your serenity.........

.......fair and balanced........

Yes they do. How do you think they pay for the billboards?
........#69 | Posted by Sully

.......rogue atheists........

".....there are a dozen evangelical tv shows on daily, everyone one of them soliciting money, there is no tv show that I have ever seen soliciting money to advance atheism........."

The TV isn't annoying at all. I can turn it off. Evangelical atheists don't shut the fuck up once you get them going.

".....that's why I'm performing this public service, to clear things up for you......"

If I need help figuring something out from someone with 2/3 my IQ, I'll let you know. Otherwise, please assume I don't. ;)

".....you're going to have to start with the Christian evangelicals.........

......once you get their 200 tv shows off the air, we can get back to discussing evangelical atheism and it's hindrance to your serenity........."

In terms of annoying behavior there is no difference between the two groups. I don't differentiate between a Bible thjmper who can't mind his own business and an atheist who can't mind his own business. They are both members of the same group: Annoying, insecure assholes.

#76 | Posted by Sully

Sully the two groups are not equivalent.

I know of no Atheists that are trying to Change the Constitution to subvert science in the classroom control what women can do with their bodies or control what you can do in a bedroom with other consenting adults or who you can marry for life.

The list goes on but I think you get my drift.

The Atheists would probably never bother with the Religious if only they would practice the same Don't Ask Don't Tell policy that They have forced upon the Gays in the Military.

"(If Christians) would practice the same don't ask don't tell policy...."

Hooray! I get another nickel.

Donner,

I don't agree with some of your assumptions.

"I know of no Atheists that are trying to Change the Constitution to subvert science in the classroom"

Not all Christians reject scientific theory. Don't make the mistake of believing the most vocal Christians, represent all of us. Fewer Christians today believe the earth is 6000 years old than Christians in the past. However, you should still bear in mind that it's all theory. Regardless if you believe in creation, evolution or intelligent design, it's all theory. It's sort of hard for anyone to lay claim to being "the absolute truth".

"control what women can do with their bodies"

It's not the woman's body pro-lifers are concerned about. Frankly, she can do to herself whatever she wants. The baby inside her is the issue here.

You know...for years, women were exploited by men. Men had power over them and men frequently abused that power. Women had to fight for equal rights in this country, and they had to fight for their voice.

Isn't it ironic how women today are doing the same thing to their unborn children. They have power over these lives and are abusing it.

"control what you can do in a bedroom with other consenting adults or who you can marry for life."

Again...I don't think most people really care what anyone does in the privacy of their bedroom with other consenting adults.

And most people don't care if gays establish relationships with other gays.

It's the Sanctity of Marriage that people don't want changed. I know a lot of straights hardly seem like they take it seriously themselves anymore. But, it is possible to not support Gay Marriage, and not be anti-gay. I believe gays (and others) are making a mistake by forcing the issue and connecting Gay Marriage and gay rights.

The way I see it, gays need a means by which their relationships can be protected by law, without changing a long standing tradition in our society. Gays need to establish their own identity without trying to emulate straight relationships.

I will never support Gay Marriage, yet I am strongly in support of all other gay rights in the US.

"The Atheists would probably never bother with the Religious if only they would practice the same Don't Ask Don't Tell policy that They have forced upon the Gays in the Military."

Would your policy apply to atheists, too?

#79 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2009-11-16 09:01 PM | Reply | Flag: Doesn't have a fucking clue what a theory is.

how original. anybody who you disagree with is "slower".
......#67 | Posted by eberly

......agreed.....

If I need help figuring something out from someone with 2/3 my IQ, I'll let you know
#76 | Posted by Sully

......your I.Q. is 204 ?........I doubt that......

....and as long you keep thinking the way that you do, you certainly do need a lot of help........

......in your own words, you are unable to distinguish betwee imaginary deities and real life......

"Except I don't know if there is a God or not.. "
.......#68 | Posted by Sully

Some of us do, and we are only too glad to help assist you in your awakening.

Skiz,

What is interesting is that while it is indeed not easy to prove the existance of God, wouldn't it be impossible to prove the non-existance of God?

I mean...how do you prove a negative?

How can you EVER be absolutely sure there is no God, and that it's not just YOU who is out of touch?

Granted...you're not alone. Lot's of other people are sure there is no God.

It's one of the more heavily debated topics out there.

My point though is, how can you be sure? Just because YOU don't experience things?

I don't care if you believe like I do. I'm just pointing out the obvious.

You claim you're going to "assist" people be "awakened".

How?