It is about goddamned time.

When you run out of money you don't have much choice.

"Deficits don't matter." -- Obamatards who seem to agree with DICK CHENEY.

But Joe Biden told me that if we don't spend lots of money we'll go bankrupt. Can someone explain?

"Deficits don't matter." -- Obamatards who seem to agree with DICK CHENEY.

That's too simple, member. Deficits always matter, but what you do with the money that gives you the deficit has an effect on how much it matters.

but what you do with the money that gives you the deficit has an effect on how much it matters.

So pissing away $2 trillion in the middle east was bad?

So pissing away $2 trillion in the middle east was bad?
#6 | Posted by 726

I'd love to be able to answer in the negative.

Well at least the Bush cabinet members are now reaping the rewards of the investment of our tax dollars.

Gives me a warm feeling to know that.

It is hilarious that in Obama's world applying TARP money will reduce the deficit.

I guess borrowing money to reduce the deficit wasn't a good idea.

Hilarious!

The GOP charges the entire Iraq War and 2 tax cuts for the wealthy on our children's credit card while Obama proposes National Health Care paid for in the budget, but Obama is the big spender?

Mo-rons. I'm surrounded by Mo-rons.

On the practical side, Obama has spent more money on new programs in nine months than Bill Clinton did in eight years, pushing the annual deficit to $1.4 trillion. This leaves little room for big spending initiatives.

On the anti-historic revisionist side, Obama has had to spend money cleaning up the last 8 years of GOP ineptitude, fraud, and corruption.

"So pissing away $2 trillion in the middle east was bad?"

So pissing away $789B to create no jobs was good?!

-$789B to create no jobs

Link, please?

Corky, no link is necessary, just common sense. Obama and his followers claimed that with the stimilus, the unemployment rate woule be less than 8.8%. It is 10.2%. By their own definition, no jobs were created, unless you count negative jobs.

Won't happen. The deficit projections on the table now are based on the expectation of near-record economic growth over the next few years. When that doesn't materialize, tax receipts will fall, and the deficit will widen.

Obama and his followers claimed that with the stimilus, the unemployment rate woule be less than 8.8%. It is 10.2%. By their own definition, no jobs were created, unless you count negative jobs.

And the Titanic sank because it was in the water.

By their definition, and by current economic stats, hundreds of thousands of jobs that would have been lost due to GOP maleficence over the last 8 years have been saved.

But admitting that "$789B to create no jobs" was pulled out of your arse is prolly a relief to you... and your arse.

I admitted no such thing. Reading comprehension my friend, it's important.

#17 | Posted by rightisright

Either we get small government the easy way or the hard way, i.e., our Chinese creditors will force it upon us. Just sit back and let them spend. The more they overspend, the sooner we'll have a smaller government.

I know. If the Democrats can't restrain themselves, the capital markets will do it for them.

And markets tend to be less forgiving, and don't listen to nice speeches with chills up their legs.

question from rush moments ago

when have you read about leaks this soon about state of union?

the election of 2010 FIX is being prepared.

It's too late.

Obama is so full of shit, it's leaking out of his pores.

Obama will never be able to please the retards on the right.

Golsbees a liar

With the size of ObamaDeficits it shouldn't be hard to cut something....military spending again for example. Imagine how much will be saved after Obama surrenders.

When you run out of money you don't have much choice.
#2 | POSTED BY MYSTERYTOY

Theoretically they have an infinite supply of money and they're hell bent on using it.

Do any of you right wingers really feel qualified to comment on reducing deficits? Try to imagine a government run by people who can actually make it work. Take your time . . . .

Oborrow is all talk and no results. Just remember, you liberal knuckle-draggers voted for this disaster.

He needs a summit to figure out which color of socks to put on. Total embarrassing joke of a failing and grossly incompetent "leader." He inherited nothing....why...he never voted for anything. No "change promo" during his short tenure as the least influential jr senator.

On the anti-historic revisionist side, Obama has had to spend money cleaning up the last 8 years of GOP ineptitude, fraud, and corruption.

He also had to spend money to get us out of the biggest economic disaster since the Great Depression. I hope he succeeded.

He also had to spend money to get us out of the biggest economic disaster since the Great Depression. I hope he succeeded.
#32 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2009-11-14 09:04 AM | REPLY | FLAG: Failed Accounting 101

Rogers

You have to shut your mind off to believe the feds can spend their way out of a problem created by too much spending. Massive deficit spending began with Roosevelt, not Bush. Every administration since then added to the deficits until they are no longer sustainable. Now that they are running out of credit, all they have left is the Zimbabwe solution.

He also had to spend money to get us out of the biggest economic disaster since the Great Depression. I hope he succeeded.
#32 | POSTED BY RCADE

The Roosevelt Myth still prevails. The fact is he copied Hoover only on a bigger scale and created the worst, longest running depression in the history of this country. He got away with deficit spending through political skill and the healthy government finances handed to him.

What Obama has is an impossible debt load and an economy dependent on foreign manufacture. There is no chance that deficits can replace production.

Obama rocks.

Republicans are a sorry bunch right now. Especially those on the dr.

Bunch of old angry jaded losers.

Hahahahha

This W.H. now knows it's painted itelf into a corner and now will B.S. that they're now wanting to be fiscally responsible-- the litmus test will be if they drop the deficit expanding healthcare bill of the house and really go after healthcare reform and cost reduction. If you don't see this happening then you know these folks aren't serious and once again Obama apeaks with a forked tougue.

Obama must be finally understanding that true GDP growth doesn't come from Government alone....

WTFUA!

"but what you do with the money that gives you the deficit has an effect on how much it matters."

Yes, fill MY koolaid pitcher and no one elses.

And if he does actually do something about it, guess who's back it will be on? Hint: Not his.

With all the tax cheats in DC they will slide by.

Reagen spending bad
Bush spending bad
Bush spending bad
Obama speing good?

We's so broke, I couldn't afford the "ND"

When a pig grows wings and flys to the moon.

So pissing away $2 trillion in the middle east was bad?

#6 | Posted by 726

You need to do some more checking befor you spew anymore of the lib bullshit.

C'mon, Snoops, you know you're on thin ice talking about fact checking.

So pissing away $2 trillion in the middle east was bad?

#6 | Posted by 726

You need to do some more checking befor you spew anymore of the lib bullshit.

#42 | Posted by Sniper

Iraq alone will cost $3 trillion, you gibbering Bushtard. The GOP continues be good for two things: ruining the economy and losing wars.

mmmm, before the dems took over congress in 2006 (that made Bush a "lame duck prez") unemployment was 4.4% with record tax revenues to the fed gov.

Go and check for yourself.

That's the cost to-date. When all is said and done, we'll have borrowed $3 trillion from China to fund Dumya's colossal blunder.

POTUS says he's "America's first Pacific president." so he has a lot more to worry about then the deficit.

It isn'r Bush's war anymore. Take a good look at who is in the WH now ace.

And remember, the war in Afagastan was the "GOOD WAR" acording to you libs.

And remember, the war in Afagastan was the "GOOD WAR" acording to you libs

And your boy Chimpy declared the Taliban kaput in 2003. That lying sack of shit started both wars and bungled them both them beyond belief.

we all know the left were rooting for and doing all they could to help bush try to win the wars.

Chimpy got every single penny he asked for and still couldn't complete the task. He embraced failure like none other.

The Roosevelt Myth still prevails.

My grandparents, who lived through the Great Depression, believed that Roosevelt got us out of it. If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.

Obama Will Cut Deficit in 2010

Doubt it--not with the Dems in charge of congress.

The tax cuts are set to expire and that will hurl the country further into recession.

If HC and cap and tax pass--forget about it--

We are so screwed.

Notice what is missing? Not a word about budget deficit vs. national deficit.

Nice slight of hand.

It's easy to spend 2 trillion more than you make your first year and only 1 trillion more than you make the second year and claim "I cut the deficit by one trillion".

All the Obama fans will swoon and bow while they pronounce him the savior.

Nice slight of hand.

It's easy to spend 2 trillion more than you make your first year and only 1 trillion more than you make the second year and claim "I cut the deficit by one trillion".

All the Obama fans will swoon and bow while they pronounce him the savior.

Posted by Mato at 2009-11-14 11:21 PM | Reply

Ummmmmmmmm Obama still has BOTH hands. Just FYI

Ummmmmmmmm Obama still has BOTH hands. Just FYI

#56 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-11-14 11:25 PM

Yeah, tied behind his back due to his policies.

He signed the stimulus, the omnibus, pushing tax and cap, now taking over healthcare?

He's crippled. Face it.

Oh yeah, lets bring some terrorists in and give them full U.S. citizen rights to boot.

Shake yourself, son.

The country you once loved no linger exists.

I hope President Obama's math is better when it comes to cutting this deficit than it was when he indicated that his stimulus had created one million jobs a couple of weeks ago. This at the same time the unemployment rate hit 10.2 percent I might add.

At least we don't have to worry about Obama turning a surplus into a deficit, unlike his predecessor that left the economy on life support.

When was unemployment this high in the past?
Ronald Reagan!!!!

Dear Reinheitsgebot,

"At least we don't have to worry about Obama turning a surplus into a deficit"

Are you even remotely aware of how high our deficit has sky rocketed in the last year? President Obama has spent more money than all the other Presidents combined. This isn't a left or right issue this is a simple math issue. You should be able to figure it out!

Dear Geehowdyfrommo,
I have decided to not respond to someone with the username of Geehowdyfrommo.

He said that during the campaign as well...he is just saying that to take some of the heat off the various congressional districts that are rebelling against the Democrat spending.

So he cuts it from 1.6 *forecast for the coming year - to 1.2 - still 400Billion Higher than anything before.

Hold onto your wallets here comes the TAX of Tax and Spend liberals...and the spending aint over.

"So he cuts it from 1.6 *forecast for the coming year - to 1.2 - still 400Billion Higher than anything before."

Gee...how did that happen? Bush is running a half-trillion dollar deficit, he injects a trillion into the banking system, and then a few days later signs the near-trillion TARP plan, and -- somehow -- none of that deficit is charged to Bush?!?

If Obama manages to end 2010 with the PRINCIPLE of the debt being smaller than it was in January, amd does it again in 2011, he just might get vote for 2012 if he keeps vering to center.

And I've voted solid (R) sinse 1984.

President Obama has spent more money than all the other Presidents combined.

#61 | Posted by Dirk

Do you have a link to support this ridiculous statement, or is that your keister doing the talking?

Do you have a link to support this ridiculous statement,

No he doesn't.He's been on this site since,Oh today.
thinks you can just say anything.
Welcome Dirk.
Here its put up or shut up
That way we can at least pretend to be intellectuals.
Be prepared to support ridiculous statements with a link

President Obama has spent more money than all the other Presidents combined.

#61 | Posted by Dirk

Uh oh. Someone got caught speaking from their rear.

President Obama has spent more money than all the other Presidents combined

Oh really asshole.
Read the constitution lately.
The president can't spend a dime.
Talk to your congressman

I have decided to not respond to someone with the username of Geehowdyfrommo.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH,you decided,BEWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA newbie.
you don't do the deciding around here.

What makes you arrogant lib posters think a "link" has validity to support your ravings? Internet is 90% B.S.

90% Bullshit
you got a link for that

If you think no links can prove anything, and the internet is BS...

Why the fuck are you here?

90% Bullshit
you got a link for that

#72 | Posted by bruceaz at 2009-11-16 04:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

LOL

And your messiah oozes arrogance, ineptitude, deceit, connivence, greed, indifference

Sufficient American

Why the fuck are you here?

Posted by Alexandrite

Cuz of the amusement factor before retiring....like peeking into an asylum. Why the FUCK are YOU here, genius?

To poke Bill Cunningham fans in the cunt with a sharp stick.

arrogant lib posters think <

Hey buddy,
I'll say the samething to you as I've said to goatman.Prove that I'm a lefty.
Come on Quote me
You guys don't like what you hear and talk shit
righties "I'm opened minded"
shit

OK - just wondered. Back to your cell now.

Enjoy your medicare and social security for retirement, greatamerican.

You fucking socialist.

"peeking into an asylum"

ROFL!

...fucking socialist? Well, I consider myself a conservative repub, but do enjoy my medicare and SS income....is that liberal? OMG, hope not.

OMG, hope not.
Its alright man,
hey lets have a group hug

90% Bullshit
you got a link for that

That IS a funny retort! got me.

Your alright dude

So GreatAmerican uses His Social Security and Medicare huh??? I wonder if He supports Medicare for ALL. If He doesn't He is a damned hypocrite.

Larry

We already got this one worked out Larry

I sure do support medicare for all....citizens who worked and contributed, if able. I also pay a hefty premium now for supplemental insurance.

Ohhhhhhhhhh well hell I guess it's back to washing dishes then. Laterz

"lets have a group hug"

ewwwwwww

gross

Larry...washing dishes.... heard about a guy who caught his hand in a dishwasher...both got fired.

gross

come on man
don't you want to feel good?

bruceaz, I feel fine.

Are you in AZ?

yep

"don't you want to feel good?"

Being me is always fine.

The La Posada in Winslow is sweet, we blew off the Grand Canyon to veg out there, but it is great to be back in Texas.

I live in the metropolitan area.Its hotter than hell and boring and hasn't had measurable rain in more than 2 months and the monsoon didn't come this year.

But if you get out of town AZ is great

"hotter than hell and boring"

Winslow is dusty, but the La Posada is a destination in and of itself.

Well you should see the Canyon.I've hiked it a couple times and took the raft trip once.

been to Winslow too many times
Did you see the statue? Take it easy