Gitcho said the policy has been in effect since 1991.
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Do as I say not as I do!

Typical Republicans. They are worse than Democrats because they are the ones who claim they are the Moral Majority and the Christian Right. Lord politics sucks ass at times it really does.

Larry

All this while the GOP voted overwhelmingly for the Stupak amendment. I wonder how many Republican familys have availed themselves of this benefit?

From the GOP Platform (2008):

We oppose using public revenues to promote or per-
form abortion and will not fund organizations which
advocate it. We support the appointment of judges
who respect traditional family values and the sancti-
ty and dignity of innocent human life.

We assert the rights of families in all international programs and
will not fund organizations involved in abortion.

I guess Insurance Companies don't count - as long as it's Republicans holding the policy (and they don't get caught).

familys - families.

The Governemnt Health Care Plan should cover abortion.

Kowtowing to Christian Conservatives is a mug's game in that no matter wot you gie them they will always want more.

Time to put yer collective foot down and tell them.

Gee, no wingnuts on this thread? Whuhappen? Oh, right...switch on light...cockroaches skeedaddle.

Doc. Sorry there's.a bunch of mooslimb threads so they are distracted with biggotry. Abortion is less important then hatin on mooselimbs.

"RNC Insurance Plan Covers Abortion"

And Steele says nobody even knew about it?

OK.

18 years?

Who could have known?

Be interesting to know if anyone took advantage of that provision in their insurance but I guess it would be protected by privacy laws.

OK by me. The more republican fetuses aborted, the better.

Oh, this is just classic.

'The Republican National Committee's health insurance plan covers elective abortions for its employees'

NOT ANYMORE!!!

Ha ha ha hah hah. That Black Comedian they hired to run the GOP makes some GREAT JOKES!

Typical Republicans. They are worse than Democrats Larry#2 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-11-13 04:17 AM | Reply

Close.

Except Democrats have 49% of abortions, and Republicans have 35% of abortions.

It means more suicide, depression, mental disorders, inferility and death for Democratic women, more neglect and child abuse for Democratic kids.

If I was Ignoramus, or Satan, I'd be laughing.

If I was Ignoramus
#14 | Posted by kirk

"Except Democrats have 49% of abortions, and Republicans have 35% of abortions."

But Kirk, the GOP platform says abortion is bad, so any percentage of Republicans having abortions raises the specter of hypocrisy.

And the fact that it's in the RNC insurance policy--seems to me clear hypocrisy. Of course, I haven't read this policy, nor have any of us, I'd guess.

I would have a lot more respect for politicians and those who talk about politics--on both sides of the aisle--if they didn't so often talk out both sides of their mouths.

Except Democrats have 49% of abortions, and Republicans have 35% of abortions.

It means more suicide, depression, mental disorders, inferility and death for Democratic women, more neglect and child abuse for Democratic kids.

If I was Ignoramus, or Satan, I'd be laughing.

Posted by kirk at 2009-11-13 09:33 AM | Reply

PROOF??

montsman - "Except Democrats have 49% of abortions, and Republicans have 35% of abortions.

It means more suicide, depression, mental disorders, inferility and death for Democratic women, more neglect and child abuse for Democratic kids.

If I was Ignoramus, or Satan, I'd be laughing."

But only 14% more than Republicans? Maybe I'm just dumb, but what exactly is your point? Republicans from toe tapping homophobia, abortion, and Limbaugh like "well it's different for me" attitudes when their caught are 80% more hypocritical than Democrats.
Guess what they're lying about Reganonomics too!!

Typical Republicans. They are worse than Democrats because they are the ones who claim they are the Moral Majority and the Christian Right. Lord politics sucks ass at times it really does.

Larry

#2 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-11-13 04:17 AM

The Dems always go on about championing the worker, the poor, and about how morally superior THAT is. (while supporting free trade agreements that fuck them over of course)

To me the conservative speak would suggest that conservatives and republican women do not get abortions. Over the history of time, how many of u believe this is true? Just as illegal immigrants need to show I.D. to do certain things in america, what if women had to show their voter registration cards before getting an abortion. The right would flip the hell out.

Except Democrats have 49% of abortions, and Republicans have 35% of abortions.
.......#14 | Posted by kirk

.......wrong Kirk.........

.......since only 21% of Americans are Republicans........

......this means that Republicans, if your numbers are correct, are in fact having abortions AT TWICE THE RATE AS DEMOCRATS.......

"Okay, this is striking. Earlier this week a Washington Post poll made a big splash because it found that only 21 percent self-identify as Republicans. "

Let me be the first to say:

BWWWWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahhahhhhhaaaa
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Morons!

If I was Ignoramus, or Satan,
.......#18 | Posted by kingcuke

......some people think that you are wrong about everything......

......but I think that you are half-right this time......

This is one of the reasons I'm not a Republican. On the other hand, while I don't care if you get an abortion because I'm pro-choice, I also think I should have the choice to not want to pay for it.

I also think I should have the choice to not want to pay for it.
.......#24 | Posted by Redman

.....should Jehova's Witnesses have the right to deny a blood transfusion to a person on the public option ?..........

.....should Jehova's Witnesses have the right to deny a blood transfusion to a person on the public option ?..........

#25 | Posted by skizziks at 2009-11-13 12:34 PM | Reply | Flag: Thinks hes HERM

Only if it's their blood. Once again, love the libtards devaluation of human life. Luv it.

On topic, the Republicans should police their own before criticizing others. Just like anybody else. Of course trying to read 2000 pages of your insurance policy - oops sorry thats the socialized medicine bill not your insurance policy.

Of course trying to read 2000 pages of your insurance policy -...#26 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

.....we understand that reading so much is a chore for Republicans......

.....that's why every copy of the bill comes with a tube of Chapstick.......

.....should Jehova's Witnesses have the right to deny a blood transfusion to a person on the public option ?..........

#25 | Posted by skizziks

No, but they should have the option not to participate in a health plan that provides coverage for anything to which they are morally opposed.

.....should Jehova's Witnesses have the right to deny a blood transfusion to a person on the public option ?..........
....#25 | Posted by skizziks

No, but they should have the option not to participate in a health plan that provides coverage for anything to which they are morally opposed.
.......#28 | Posted by Redman

.......right answer........

...and then it follows that people who believe abortion is wrong, should ONLY HAVE A SAY IN THEIR OWN ABORTION DECISION.....not someone else's.........

.....we understand that reading so much is a chore for Republicans......

.....that's why every copy of the bill comes with a tube of Chapstick.......

#27 | Posted by skizziks at 2009-11-13 01:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obviously you are not keeping up with current events:

John Conyers: "What good is reading the bill when it is 1,000 pages and you don't have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read it?"

Jackass.

#29 | Posted by skizziks at 2009-11-13 01:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Once again, comparison of a blood transfusion is a non sequitur. Abortion kills life, blood transfusions save them. I don't see JWs protesting outside hospitals performing blood transfusions.

Please go back to the third level of Hell where you reside and come back with a sensible argument.

Abortion kills life,
#31 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

.....wrong......

....thats just a narrow religious belief, same as a blood transfusion being against the bible......

.....any adult can take religious beliefs into making decisions about their OWN healthcare, but should not be able to impose their religious beliefs vis-a-vis healthcare on others........

I don't see JWs protesting outside hospitals performing blood transfusions.

.....they prefer to kill their own children with this bible based belief.........

......when they kill themselves with it, nobody gives a shit, it's one less religious idiot in the world.......

.....besides........Republican
s love abortions.....

...they have them at twice the rate as the rest of the country......please read Kirk's contribution above.....

....all that anti-abortion stuff is just public posturing to get the bible-thumper vote.......

.....why the Republican Party Health Care plan, even covers ELECTIVE abortions, cause they're busy little fuckers........

.....it's only for the unwashed "base" that they want to restrict abortions.......

John Conyers: "What good is reading
...........#30 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

....I'm willing to trade Conyers for one Ron Paul and a case of Boone's Easy Swilling Hog Shine, if you can deliver it before Sunday's football game.......

.....here are some more abortion stats for you ABORTION LOVING REPUBLICANS........

The numbers show that liberal influence is more effective in reducing abortions than is conservative influence. [This is info lifted from the Liberals Like Christ site. You can see Ray Dubuque's original chart there, about 1/2 way down the page.]

These numbers are important. They show actual results. They show which party's impact over time is most effectively anti-abortion and it's not the so-called conservatives! Liberal policies, behaviors and attitudes apparently REDUCE abortions. Republican policies, attitudes and behaviors apparently INCREASE abortions. The results are similar regarding teen pregnancy.

THEREFORE: You WILL do more to reduce abortions by voting for pro-choice candidates than by voting for anti-abortion candidates. Weird huh? But it's true! Your vote matters. Unborn babies' lives are at stake.

Here's how Rev. Dubuque states the obvious conclusion from his charts:

If indeed, as everybody says, "actions speak louder than words", then it is conservatives and Republicans NOT liberals and Democrats who are "pro-abort".

RED-STATE / BLUE-STATE ABORTION RATES COMPARED:

All but one of the ten states with the LOWEST rates of abortion are considered "LIBERAL" :

Liberal 1 Massachusetts 2.4
Liberal 2 Connecticut 2.8
Liberal 3 New Jersey 3.0
Liberal 4 Rhode Island 3.2
Liberal 5 New York 3.3
Liberal 6 Pennsylvania 3.3
Liberal 7 Wisconsin 3.4
Conservative 8 North Dakota 3.4
Liberal 9 Maryland 3.5
Liberal 10 Minnesota 3.6

All but one of the Sixteen states with the HIGHEST rates of abortion are considered "CONSERVATIVE" :

Conservative 35 Texas 5.4
Conservative 36 Alaska 5.5
Liberal 37 Washington 5.6
Conservative 38 Mississippi 5.7
Conservative 39 Kentucky 5.8
Conservative 40 Arizona 5.8
Conservative 41 Florida 5.9
Conservative 42 New Mexico 6.0
Conservative 43 Idaho 6.2
Conservative 44 Alabama 6.2
Conservative 45 Indiana 6.6
Conservative 46 Wyoming 6.5
Conservative 47 Tennessee 6.6
Conservative 48 Oklahoma 6.7
Conservative 49 Arkansas 7.1
Conservative 50 Nevada 9.0

[Compiled from Center for Disease Control, National Center for Health Statistics; and Election Results from CNN.]

Eighteen years this little provision was in place, and the RNC's top echelon says they didn't know about it?

That explains so much. So much.

If I was Ignoramus, or Satan, I'd be laughing."
......#18 | Posted by kingcuke

.....so now that you've seen the stats.......

.....are you still laughing ?.......

Eighteen years this little provision was in place, and the RNC's top echelon says they didn't know about it?
......#37 | Posted by MaryTylerWhore

......they are claiming ingnorance.......

....as much as I'm inclined to agree..........

Even if you opt out of abortion coverage are you still supporting a pro abortion institution?

Liberal 1 Massachusetts 2.4
Liberal 2 Connecticut 2.8
Liberal 3 New Jersey 3.0
Liberal 4 Rhode Island 3.2
Liberal 5 New York 3.3
Liberal 6 Pennsylvania 3.3
Liberal 7 Wisconsin 3.4
Conservative 8 North Dakota 3.4
Liberal 9 Maryland 3.5
Liberal 10 Minnesota 3.6

Skizziks bullshit aside, notice how all of the lower abortion states are NOrthern and most of the higher abortion states are Southern.

Couldn't have anything to do with other demographics could it?....well apparently not to Skizziks.

But Skizziks does say one thing of significance here...

ABORTION LOVING REPUBLICANS........

and...

then it is conservatives and Republicans NOT liberals and Democrats who are "pro-abort".

so we can conclude that Skizziks believes that where abortions do occur that people who have them "LOVE" them and are "PRO_ABORTION"

wow. that shows the true inhumane position Skizhead has towards folks who have had abortions and how much he thinks of their "choices".

Skizziks bullshit aside
41 | Posted by eberly

......I did'nt make up the stats or write the article......

......but do a bit of research and you will verify for yourself that America has higher abortion rates than western european contries that do not have hangups about providing abortions......

......and that conservative & Republican regions have higher abortion rates than liberal & Democratic states..........

......I did'nt make up the facts......I only presented them for your amusement........

Abortion kills life,
#31 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

.....wrong......

#32 | Posted by skizziks at 2009-11-13 01:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Um, I believe that that statement is unquestionable skiz. Are you saying something not alive is growing inside of a human female?

I made a very secular comment leaving religion and controversy (fetus v baby) argument out of it. Abortion kills life - FACT. Just because you opine otherwise makes it no less true a statement.

With one exception--Rep. John Shadegg (R-AZ) who voted 'present'--House Republicans voted unanimously for an amendment to health care legislation that forbids women who receive government insurance subsidies from buying policies that cover abortion.
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opt out, they should get insurance from a company that offers NO abortion options.

ABORTION LOVING REPUBLICANS........
and...
then it is conservatives and Republicans NOT liberals and Democrats who are "pro-abort".

......I am describing them by what they do, not by what they say.......

......I did'nt make up the facts......I only presented them for your amusement........

no. you just inserted "abortion loving" and "pro-abortion" when you know you resent those terms.

and you also generated your own conclusions from the stats.

those were stats only.

what does the voting preference (for President) have to do with abortion rates?

REPUBLICANS

.....say they oppose abortion.......but they have them at a greater rate than others.....it must therefore be, that they really love abortion more than democrats love them........

what does the voting preference (for President) have to do with abortion rates?
.......#46 | Posted by eberly

.....your guess is as good as mine.......

what does the voting preference (for President) have to do with abortion rates?
.......#46 | Posted by eberly

.....your guess is as good as mine.......
#48 | Posted by skizziks

but one guess would be that people who oppose abortion on principle-or religious belief, do not prepare themselves with sex education, and therefore get pregnant at a higher rate than people who are prepared.......

and when faced with an unplanned pregnancy,they do what they feel they must, in spite of what they may think is right......

Focus on the Family provides its employees health insurance through Principal, an insurance company that covers "abortion services." A Focus spokeswoman confirmed the fact that the organization pays premiums to Principal, but declined to comment on whether that amounts to an indirect funding of abortion.

Focus on the Family provides its employees health insurance through Principal, an insurance company that covers "abortion services."
......#50 | Posted by mmike

......I think that answers your question......

For a nation that claims to venerate life, America does very little for it, after it is born. Mothers have insufficient maternity leave, insufficient welfare for single mothers, lack of a child tax credit.

We talk the talk, but don't do enough to support life once its here. There is a cruel streak in America.

Um, I believe that that statement is unquestionable skiz. Are you saying something not alive is growing inside of a human female?
.......#43 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

....any statement can be questioned.......

.....every female has a pile of shit growing in her intestines every day.....is that alive ?...shall we put the little turds up for adoption ?....

.......is every female guilty of murder at every ovulation ?...and males mass murderers every time they wax the old banana ?......

.....the issue of abortion is ONLY a religious issue......

......because some religions believe that a human soul is created at conception.......

.....and MY religion should not intrude into YOUR healthcare.........and vice versa......I mean what kind of free America is it where someone else's religous beliefs control another person's health care.?......

No, but they should have the option not to participate in a health plan that provides coverage for anything to which they are morally opposed.
.......#28 | Posted by Redman

.......right answer........

...and then it follows that people who believe abortion is wrong, should ONLY HAVE A SAY IN THEIR OWN ABORTION DECISION.....not someone else's.........

#29 | Posted by skizziks

By "participating", I would also include being forced to pay for it regardless of receiving the benefit.

abortion=evil, anything or anyone associated with abortion=evil...unless I need/want something (services,funds) from them.

By "participating", I would also include being forced to pay for it regardless of receiving the benefit.
.....#55 | Posted by Redman

......some people in your group will get heart transplants even though you may never need one....

.....if you are in a health insurance group, and only want to pay for services you will get, then you better be clairvoyant, and know every illness and injury that will happen to you.......

abortion=evil, anything or anyone associated with abortion=evil...unless I need/want something (services,funds) from them.
....#56 | Posted by mmike

.....that's a religious belief......not a fact...

...the same as the Taliban insisting that God does not want girls educated.....

.....we cannot conduct a public health care system based on individual religious beliefs........

.....if we did, there would be no blood transfusions, no stem-cell cures for macular degeneration, no bone marrow transplants, etc..

By "participating", I would also include being forced to pay for it regardless of receiving the benefit.

understand that a health insurance policy (especially a group policy) is not some ala carte buffet where you pick and choose every coverage, limitation or exclusion.

Some of that is all dictated by the respective state insurance departments who can allow or disallow such limitations or exclusions.

.....the issue of abortion is ONLY a religious issue......

you are right....some are religiously anti-abortion and some are religiously pro-abortion.

others are simply pro-choice.

LOL

in all seriousness........why would say ONLY and not include "political"?

No, but they should have the option not to participate in a health plan that provides coverage for anything to which they are morally opposed.

#28 | Posted by Redman

By "participating", I would also include being forced to pay for it regardless of receiving the benefit.

#55 | Posted by Redman
====================
RM...they have that right now go with the company that does not provide abortion services.

........why would say ONLY and not include "political"?
........#60 | Posted by eberly

.....it is through politics that people are able to force others to follow their beliefs.........

......no one forces people who do not want abortions to get them, but it is through politics that people who don't want them, can try to make others obey their religion........

......in the old days, the church was indistinguishable from the state, and we could burn heretics, witches, and do the Scarlet Letter thing to adulterers (women mainly)......but today the weapon of choice for inflicting one's religion on another is through politics......

Can someone show me a news story where all the Democratic members of Congress have dropped their abortion health care coverage, and members of their staff, I'm sure they must be somewhere out there but I have been unable to find them???

Can someone show me a news story where all the Democratic members of Congress have dropped their abortion health care coverage, and members of their staff, I'm sure they must be somewhere out there but I have been unable to find them???
......#63 | Posted by Dr_Feelgood

......they have'nt......neither have the Republicans......

........they just INTEND to.....now that they have been found out........

Now you tell me?

-Sarah Palin

Except Democrats have 49% of abortions, and Republicans have 35% of abortions.

Since Republicans make up 20% of the population, that means they are almost double the national rate of baby killing.

Wow, what a bizarre wedge abortion has become. I'd like to know where the RNC is going to find a health insurance plan which doesn't cover abortion.

I'm supposing such plans are out there, but it would be economically contraindicated, as an abortion is a few hundred dollars and delivering a baby costs far more.

I know TriCare doesn't pay for abortions unless the mother's health is jeopardized, but then RNC members aren't government employees and can't have the purse-strings bound by Congress the way TriCare's are.

Maybe Steele should just resign in protest over this and we can all move on.

Maybe Steele should just resign in protest over this and we can all move on.

Posted by snoofy at 2009-11-14 03:19 AM | Reply

Whyyyyyyyyyyyy then He wouldn't have anything to bitch about. Too fucking funny Huh??

Larry