Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, November 10, 2009

Washington-area sniper John Allen Muhammad was executed Tuesday by lethal injection, declared dead at 9:11 p.m., said Larry Traylor, director of communications for the Virginia Department of Corrections. "There were no complications; Mr. Mohammad was asked if he wished to make a last statement," Traylor told reporters. "He did not acknowledge this or make a last statement whatsoever."

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Making killers out of Virginians once again. Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. The Death Penalty the Ultimate in Hypocrisy.

Larry

Can I pull the switch please?

The piece of trash is still breathing air he does not warrent or deserve, but at least he'll be dead soon (hopefully).

NOT killing trash like this is immoral and corrupt.

You cannot teach the lesson killing is wrong by killing.

Absolutely amazing the fascination with killing someone by some.

now he will discover it is 72 Virginians with Shotguns, not Virgins

You cannot teach the lesson killing is wrong by killing.

Who wants to teach a lesson? Let's punish the fucker!

The industries grown up around the incarceration of people who break the law makes billions of dollars a year from tax payers.

The people running those systems are not interested in putting a stop to recidivism. Without inmates and over-crowded prisons, there would be no need for massive prison systems.

He was a terrorist!!! May he die TONIGHT.

You cannot teach the lesson killing is wrong by killing.

#3 | Posted by 726

You have a very simplistic view of life. Is it wrong to kill someone that is attacking you with a big sword? Is it wrong to shoot back at someone that is shooting at you? Is it wrong to kill unborn childern who have done nothing wrong? Is it wrong to walk up to a stranger on the street and kill them?

This man taught Americans the value of life. May he RIP.

NOT killing trash like this is immoral and corrupt.

#2 | Posted by USAF242

Osama Bin Laden thinks the exact same way.

Just so that you know.......

When he's executed, all his victims come back to life, right?

This man taught Americans the value of life.

Of course it doesn't matter that he did this by taking lives at random, does it?

May he RIP.

People like this nut are one reason to wish there was a hell.

This is news when the real unemployment rate here in the US is over 17%?

People like this nut are one reason to wish there was a hell.

There is. It's called the same small cell for 60 years.

Too bad this nation is refusing to allow this guys to 'enjoy' his.

He stops paying for his crime in just a few hours. Way to let him off.

This is news when the stock market is at another 52 week high?

Zombie people don't realize what they have until it is gone. How many wives, husbands, mothers and fathers didn't fully appreciate their loved ones until this man took them away? I'll bet they don't make that mistake again.

Way to let him off.
Posted by Manypaths

Most don't think that way. They believe that he's going to hell. If he's found salvation then they're just doing him a favor.

I'll bet they don't make that mistake again.
#16 | Posted by jackass

They can't make that mistake again by definition, right?

You have a very simplistic view of life. Is it wrong to kill someone that is attacking you with a big sword?

Of course not. Your simple example is covered by self defense.

Now he is locked away, out of society. How is he a danger to the public?

"We cannot teach that killing is wrong by killing....This cycle of violence diminishes all of usespecially our children."

Confronting a Culture of Violence:
A Catholic Framework for Action
(U.S. Catholic bishops, November 1994)

I want them to call off the execution literally a second before it happens. That way he can experience the fear that many DC residents felt when they were pumping gas.

After that, he should be forced to fight inmates for the warden's entertainment.

Most don't think that way. They believe that he's going to hell. If he's found salvation then they're just doing him a favor.

#17 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

I know.

It's what is wrong with society.

The only thing that is going to happen tonight is a guy is going to stop breathing and stop suffering from his confinement. This proceedure is going to be exactly like putting a dog out of his misery.

Except it's not a dog. It's a man who did horrible things and he is going to be put out of his misery.

I don't agree that he should be.

May he die TONIGHT.

#7 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-11-10 03:03 PM | Reply

Again, the fascination with one human killing another one is astounding.

See, Chair is at least onto something.

Can't we be more creative as a country beyond just putting bad people to sleep?

The only thing that is going to happen tonight is a guy is going to stop breathing and stop suffering from his confinement.

But you forget the culture of life will have it's eye for an eye.

And soon, the whole world will be blind.

If people are going to die for their crimes I believe "justice" should be much more swift.

Let's face it, an "eye for an eye" sort of loses it's luster after almost a decade (7 years in this case). What's the real point of an "eye for an eye" if it doesn't satisfy our blood lust?

Running Man.

That is all.

Smoke him!

JM

Smoke him!

JM

"Running Man."

How that movie didn't win an academy award still baffles me.

John Allen Muhammad (December 31, 1960 - November 10, 2009) was a spree killer from the United States. With his younger partner, Lee Boyd Malvo, he carried out the 2002 Beltway sniper attacks, killing 10 people. Muhammad and Malvo were arrested in connection with the attacks on October 24, 2002, following tips from alert citizens. Born John Allen Williams, Muhammad joined the Nation of Islam in 1987 and later changed his surname to Muhammad.[1] Drawings by Malvo describe the murders as part of a "jihad" (Arabic for "struggle in the way of God"). Wiki

Religion of peace

Say no more

Richard Dawson caused it to lose.

I saw a knock off of that movie featuring Jason Stathum (sp), and it was actually pretty good as far as entertainment went.

The ones who lost family members won't take for granted the other family members they have left. I'll bet he brought those families closer together.

Religion of peace


Say no more

#31 | Posted by boojiboy

It's OK, some Christian will kill him for you tonight.

9pm tonight it's free shooters for the house.

What are the odds of the guy throwing the switch to be free of sin?

Boy, Jebus ain't going to like this one......

He should be forced to pump gas, do yard work and other public activities knowing that at any moment he is going to be shot in the head. Then do it about 5 years from now.


Religion of peace


Say no more


#31 | Posted by boojiboy


What thread would be complete without some retard painting an entire religion with a broad brush based on the actions of a nutjob?

I suppose the Crusades or Inquisition were just a few bad apples?

Organized religion is a tool used to control the weak minded and is one of the biggest evil's to ever have graced planet earth.

OK, Chair and Joe are both using their heads here.

Why can't any of the rest of you?

This is news when the real unemployment rate here in the US is over 17%?

#13 | Posted by LetUsPrey

I do hope that taking care of(executing) a terrorist that murdered a bunch of people at random is a little more important than a basketball player that has some mild (non life threatning) cancer.

I would pull the lever and never look back. Many people whose lives were affected have had to live knowing this POS was still breathing. It wasn't fast enough. Barbarians would probably torture him, but worthless people deserve to be forgotten. Sooner the better child rapist should be done with as well. They are and/or will be tortured soles. We should rid oursleves more of this kind. I will live with the outcome of that. If there is a supreme being that allowed people like this to be present, than I think they're just as sick for playing around.

Now he is locked away, out of society. How is he a danger to the public?

#19 | Posted by 726

That is not always the case. Do you have any how many murders are comitted in prison? How many gangs on the outside are run by prisoners? You don't have a clue about prison.

You cannot teach the lesson killing is wrong by killing.

#3 | Posted by 726

You can, however, absolutely and positively make certain that the murdering SOB will NEVER kill another person again.

You don't have a clue about prison.

#43 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-11-10 04:18 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: ANAL STRETCH MARKS TO PROVE IT.

#44 | Posted by UpL8

States without the DP do it all the time.

Of course all murdering scum deserves to die: the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23). Everybody has an appointed time with death (Hebrews 9:27). Also, self-defense is a universal right. But executing an actually innocent person (yeh, it DOES happen, mindless zealots) is NOT self-defense. Nor does it qualify as a legitimate "accident".
The ONLY problem I have with the "death penalty" per se is that mistakes are irreversible. When mistakes are fatal and so serious as to be career ending, railroading judges, lying prosecutors, cops, and witnesses will do anything and everything possible to cover up a wrongful execution which makes them look bad.
I'd give murderers life without parole in an 8 x 10 cage with cot, head, sink, shower and Bible. Weld up the bars and give 'em a Big Mac and educational reading material every day. That way when you discover a prisoner is actually innocent, you can let them out and pay them huge for their "public service" to the law.
The law is supposed to defend the individual and his Creator-endowed natural rights. When, instead, it turns into the individual's attacker and murders him via wrongful execution, the law loses it's only reason for existing. That is morally intolerable.
Per the Golden Rule, anybody who seriously thinks it's fine and dandy for the "law" to murder innocent wrongly convicted individuals, desperately needs to be one of the individuals who is wrongfully convicted and innocently executed. I sincerely wish for that. I pray for that.
If it were not for the possibility of irreversible mistakes, I'd say execute the murderer with the same method he used on his victim/s! But we live in a fallen world, not a perfect one.

Kudos to the State of Virginia for delivering this death sentence and permanently ridding the world of a human being who has no value for the lives of his fellow man. In some states it can take as long as twenty-five years for the punishment to be carried out. It won't bring back the victims, but as I said, it will insure that this piece of feces will never take the life of another again. Absolute insurance.

James Williams keeps spamming his webpage over and over!!!!!!!!

God Himself sanctions the death penalty. However I would prefer to get some use out of them. Like life in a medical research lab.


I want them to call off the execution literally a second before it happens. That way he can experience the fear that many DC residents felt when they were pumping gas.


After that, he should be forced to fight inmates for the warden's entertainment.

#20 | Posted by 101Chairborne

That seems like a much better punishment than the easy way out for this murderer, which is death by execution.

IMO it would be a much worse punishment to spend life in prison than to be put to death.

#52 | Posted by Whatsleft

I appreciate your sensible position.

We'll be done with this malignant wretch. We'll no longer have to suffer his presence. His execution will be cost effective. We'll no longer be required to feed, cloth, house, or provide medical care. He'll be dead. That will improve the general human condition. When they pump the poison into his veins, I'm sure he would much prefer being returned to his cell for the rest of his natural life. The only shame is that we can't repeat the procedure for each of the people he had a hand in killing.

I think it's scary how many Americans believe in the great sky pixie and the basement cat. You people are psychotic crazies. Seriously.

Let a few thousand (a few hundred thousand?) of the inmates who are serving time for victimless crimes out and then there'll be penty of porridge and a cot somewhere left over for hard cases like this guy.

Btw, private companies do NOT belong in the incarceration business. The State condemns people, the State has to support them. Like it or not.

Also, criminals are products of the society that bred them in. Is it any wonder that the USA has so many people locked up? No wonder at all.

You cannot teach the lesson killing is wrong by killing.

#3 | POSTED BY 726 AT 2009-11-10 02:42 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Sure you can. "Don't kill other people in cold blood, or you might get off'ed by the state."

Also, he's learning a lesson which perhaps will lead to some form of remorse and repentance.

Having said this, I don't agree with the death penalty. However, I'm not going to pretend that there are no lessons to be learned. I won't weep for this guy, and hopefully it'll bring some closure to his victims' families.

Sure you can. "Don't kill other people in cold blood, or you might get off'ed by the state."

#56 | Posted by somoco at 2009-11-10 06:04 PM


Well, he didn't seem to learn the lesson. He went on his spree in a State that has the death penalty! Doh!

The guy doesn't deserve to live, but we don't deserve to take his life.

Bella--

The murders by this guy had nothing to do with society.

His first problem was joining Nation of Islam.

He hated his wife, the country and God.

He wanted to extort money so he could go live in Canada and set up homeless people to do what he and Malvo did in VA and MD.

Bye bye John Allen.

And the victims' family reports there is no remorse from him.

Malvo was shown mercy--life in prison forever.

They showed no mercy to the people they shot from across the street --for getting gas or mowing their lawn, or walking out of Home Depot.

Or how about the threats they were going to kill school children getting off the bus?

The death penalty is for the worse, most heinous crimes and this is one of them.

Bella--

The murders by this guy had nothing to do with society.

#57 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-11-10 06:11 PM


So, if he had been born to basket makers on the island of Samoa, or rice farmers on Okinawa, he still would have become a mass-murderer as an adult? Sorry, but, you're wrong. Virtually ALL criminals are made, not born. And when we look at what we've made and it doesn't please us, we either lock it away or kill it.

It's the easy way out and there's no reason to expect humans to take the harder path when given a choice. That would be stupid of us.

Well, he didn't seem to learn the lesson. He went on his spree in a State that has the death penalty! Doh!

#55 | POSTED BY BELLASPAPA AT 2009-11-10 06:06 PM | REPLY | FLAG

No him, next freak. I agree that it's a relatively weak argument, and as I mentioned, I don't agree with the death penalty. But, I wouldn't go as far to say it has no value in society. If nothing else, it removes the ability of the criminal to commit another crime.

good night, sleep tight, and pleasant dreams to you...

Who Would Jesus Execute?

The guy killed 10 people!


If you are against the death penalty--would you think the same of Anthony Sowell?

Ohio has the death penalty and he blamed the stench of 11 decaying bodies in his house on the local sausage factory.

The ligatures were still wrapped around the victims' neck. Had 5 buried/in the house--2 just laying on the living room floor when the police showed up and 6 bodies buried in the yard.

He was raping and killing women the minute he got out of prison after serving 15 years for rape and attempted murder.

He should never have gotten out.

He deserves the death penalty--let's try him first and then put him to death.

Who Would Jesus Execute?

#62 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2009-11-10 06:42 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

On Judgment Day? Do you really want to know?


Who Would Jesus Execute?

Posted by snoofy at 2009-11-10 06:42 PM | Reply

Noone His words prove this out. Did He not spare the adulater Woman. The Famopus Those who without sin may cast the first stone. They can not be declared Christians if they support the Death Penalty because Jesus was against it. The only reason for the death penalty before Jesus's Crusifiction was because the wages of sin is death. Jesus took that penalty upon the cross at Calvary. Now we are supposed to be saved from that death ourselves those who truly believe.

Larry

Sorry, but, you're wrong. Virtually ALL criminals are made, not born. And when we look at what we've made and it doesn't please us, we either lock it away or kill it.

It's the easy way out and there's no reason to expect humans to take the harder path when given a choice. That would be stupid of us.

#59 | Posted by bellaspapa at 2009-11-10 06:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bullshit. They make a choice when they become criminals. Plenty of people have risen out of the morass to greatness. And way more rose out to lead normal lives.

Fuck this guy. In prison or electrocuted. Fuck him.

Why can't we just let him float in shark-infested waters with a few bleeding wounds?

The DC snipers are evil pieces of shit - end of story.

Get in the box, dude - you deserve it!

bring back ole sparkey,juice him about 5 times before you give him the full amps.

little less that 2 hrs, mother fucker!!!!

Did you see the lights go dim???

Oops, maybe not yet!

#49 "God Himself sanctions the death penalty."
Actually, God Himself does NOT "sanction" the death penalty for actually innocent wrongfully convicted individuals. The problem with that argument is that, as a policy matter, it totally ignores the execution of actually innocent wrongfully convicted individuals. Everybody I know who favors the death penalty DELIBERATELY ignores that problem. To me, the deliberate ignoring of the LIFE-AND-DEATH (GOOD-And-EVIL) policy problem of the execution of actually innocent wrongfully convicted individuals is deliberately immoral, and therefore, inexcusably evil. I believe the "accidental" wrongful execution of an actually innocent person is murder, which is forbidden by God. I believe to not care about this issue, as a matter of policy, is SIN/EVIL. If it were not so, then why does Deuteronomy 19:16-20 mandate that we do to false witnesses that which they attempted to do to the falsely accused person? That means that in death penalty cases, false witnesses get the death penalty. And what about lying prosecutors and railroad-em judges. Do they not deserve the same Biblical/moral treatment as false witnesses? And don't pretend "accidental" wrongfully executions never happen. This inescapable conundrum is the direct result of choosing the kingship of man over voluntary righteousness! Come on death penalty zealots, especially those of you professing Christianity: cat got your tongue?!

In about an hour justice will be served and the man who murdered

* James Martin,
* James Buchanan,
* Premkumar Walekar,
* Sarah Ramos,
* Lori Ann-Lewis Rivera,
* Pascal Charlot,
* Dean Harold Meyers,
* Kenneth Bridges,
* Linda Franklin and
* Conrad Johnson

will be no more.

Actually, Romans 13:4 discusses government.

"For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain; for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil"

The Death Penalty is not justice but vengence disguised as justice to placate the souls of those who support it.

Larry

UPL8, Larry, you bring up excellent points.

But in this case, lets just let the lights dim for a moment, and have justice, as our current flawed system dispenses.

He is as guilty as the day is long, so I'm not worried we have the wrong guy here.

But in this case, lets just let the lights dim for a moment, and have justice, as our current flawed system dispenses.


He is as guilty as the day is long, so I'm not worried we have the wrong guy here.

Posted by boojiboy at 2009-11-10 08:27 PM | Reply

It's not justice it's vengence. I used to be Pro Capital Punishment Myself til I realized I was no better than the one I was lusting fors death. So how can You declare the Death Penalty as justice??

Larry

I did say flawed now didn't I Larry?

Ya know what kills me, is the fear of them getting out.

I grew up in LA during the whole Manson clan deal and they all skated the death penalty by, what, weeks? And then ended up lifers.

But then through the years, I would hear about them having parole hearings. Of course they rejected them, and continue to. But I ask you, what the fuck is with our justice system that life does not mean life?? In a little shoe box with bars? Forever till you die?? No TV! No time weight lifting in the yard. No interaction with the outside.

That I would support.


I would pull the lever and never look back.

#41 | Posted by NonDLR at 2009-11-10 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Sure you would hard ass....

He is executed.

:+( RIP

Hee, hee, hee, all this from those that condone jamming a syringe into the nape of a partially born child , sucking the brains out of the innocent, and if the child survives the onslaught of abortion, throw it in the container clearly marked " bio-trash" and incinerate, and they talk about hypocrits.

Welcome to the obamanation, camel lot, camels for clunkers.

^,^

Hmm, the Beltway Sniper, let's see....

*scorch**scorch**scorch*SIZZLE SIZZLE SIZZLE*scorch**scorch**scorch*

Good, he's dead.


JEB

^.^

"So how can You declare the Death Penalty as justice??"

It's justice because these spawn of evil committed the crimes they did, and they knew at that time that they could get death for what they did.

Where was the mercy for the victims here? You don't want heinous murderers to get the death penalty, but where was any sort of mercy for their victims?


JEB

judge not lest ye be judged

he without sin cast the first stone

as for culpability in the deaths of innocents, those who supported the invasion of iraq have much in common with ja muhammed.

is it the same crime? no

but it is laughable to hear the same voices who scream for nuking iraq and cheering on the widespread bombardment of iraqi cities condemning the likes of jam while at the same time quoting scripture.

ja muhammed is a scumbag who deserves to be punished.
our nation is obsessed with killing and many seem to demonstrate a disturbing vicarious thrill in being able to righteously kill another human being.

just punishment can be served without killing him. lock him in a small cell with no tv, no books for the rest of his natural life

perhaps someday he could find redemption and return something to the world.

that sounds like the christian thing to do, but what do i know

that sounds like the christian thing to do, but what do i know

#85 | Posted by truthhurts at 2009-11-10 09:41 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Just look at the murder rate in the US and compare... says a lot about our priorities.

90% christians, yeah right

"90% christians, yeah right"

Did you know that the vast majority of murders in the U.S. are committed by Christians?

Did you know that the vast majority of murders in the U.S. are committed by Christians?

#87 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-11-10 10:06 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Sure did.... that's why I posted that

Hey I wonder if this helps Republicans??? (ROLLS EYES)

Did you know that the vast majority of murders in the U.S. are committed by Christians?

#87 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-11-10 10:06 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Did you know that most "christians" feel no remorse for killing as long as they have "reason card"?

Did you know that the vast majority of murders in the U.S. are committed by Christians?

Posted by nullifidian


Full of crap as my septic tank. Murder voids any so-called christian claims.

"
Did you know that the vast majority of murders in the U.S. are committed by Christians?"

Gotta link?

And not from the OT?? How about since Christ was born.

"Did you know that most "christians" feel no remorse for killing as long as they have "reason card"?"

Not you too?!


Hey I wonder if this helps Republicans??? (ROLLS EYES)

#89 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-11-10 10:12 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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LAR! what's up? good to see you around. You need to seriously get the hell out of Kansas.

Full of crap as my septic tank. Murder voids any so-called christian claims.

#91 | Posted by greatamerican at 2009-11-10 10:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Typical apologist claim

Full of crap as my septic tank. Murder voids any so-called christian claims.

#91 | Posted by greatamerican at 2009-11-10 10:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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You shouldn't be full of shit all the time or else Your septic tank wouldn't be so full. BTW are You using AntiBacterial soaps?? If so You really need to stop cause You are killing Your septic tank.

Larry

"Did you know that the vast majority of murders in the U.S. are committed by Christians?"

Gotta link?"

Hahahahaha.

Find Me a Woman that will marry Me and I'm gone.

"Hahahahaha."

That's what I thought.

Not you too?!


#92 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-11-10 10:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Tell me you are kidding...

Ast the KKK movement of the South what their "proclaimed" religion was.


Get back to me....

"Tell me you are kidding..."

Sorry. If I did that would be a lie.

Find Me a Woman that will marry Me and I'm gone.

#97 | Posted by LarryMohr

Come to Reno and I'll work on it Larry but you have to promise NOT to leave you're one of my favorite posters*


*I mean that in a nice way

"Ast the KKK movement of the South what their "proclaimed" religion was."

You confuse the actions of some with the actual teachings of Christianity.

They are completely different in the case you reference.


RUN LARRY!!!!

DON'T LOOK BACK!!!


You confuse the actions of some with the actual teachings of Christianity.


They are completely different in the case you reference.

#103 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-11-10 10:27 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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I understand what you are saying. OTOH I was raised in the South and I saw a totally different christianity than what you represent. and still do.. not saying your beliefs are tainted

"I understand what you are saying. OTOH I was raised in the South and I saw a totally different christianity than what you represent. and still do.. not saying your beliefs are tainted"

Obviously there's was!!

In order to claim that Christianity is responsible for murders, teaching to KILL would have to be TAUGHT.

That is not the case.

There are extremests in every religion.

Unfortunately.

There are extremests in every religion.


Unfortunately.


#106 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-11-10 10:33 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Just like in the muslim religion.... I know

Time for My exit for the night. Thanks again for the Birthday wishes. Seems the online folks are sometimes better than Your RL Folks. I see the troll needs food and I am not about to feed Him anymore. Night.

Larry

Happy Birthday Larry!

Goode nighte Misse Lisae.... gottae gete toe sleepe. seee youe tomorrowe.

Thanks Murphy. Huggles and night to You both.

Larry

LOL

Niteee niteee!!

Nite Larry....sorry your fun here was ruined.

I see the troll needs food and I am not about to feed Him anymore.

#108 | Posted by LarryMohr

Sooner or later you'll realize I'm not the troll here Larry (not accusing you of being one either)

"Sooner or later you'll realize I'm not the troll here Larry"

What do you expect people to think of you when you know they don't want to have discussion with you but you don't respect that....and keep right on posting to them???

You burned that bridge too.

Who Would Jesus Execute?

#62 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2009-11-10 06:42 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

On Judgment Day? Do you really want to know?

Yes, I do. Feel free to compare the projected death toll to that accrued by the "Religion of Peace."

Just saw that the execution was carried out.

May he rot in hell.

What do you expect people to think of you when you know they don't want to have discussion with you but you don't respect that....and keep right on posting to them???

And yet the person who allegedly doesn't want a discussion keeps on responding to my posts. Careful about throwing the word "respect" around sweetie the irony stinks the high heavens coming from you

You can't be serious????

I've repeatedly asked you to stop commenting to or about me...yet, you don't.

So when I tell you the truth...it's a lack of respect????

Oh brother, that's rich!!

Play by yourself.

You've ruined my fun too.

I'm outta here.

I felt a great disturbance in the force.

So when I tell you the truth...it's a lack of respect????

I'm going offline in about 30 minutes I dare you to tell the whole truth about yourself here on the DR before that or stop denigrating other people hypocrite

"And yet the person who allegedly doesn't want a discussion keeps on responding to my posts."

No shit. Me thinks the Gossip Queen loves the attention.

3 cheers for the KKK. So, where do we go from here?

Just saw that the execution was carried out.

May he rot in hell.

Figures. Thanks Beezlebob.

He maintained his innocence.

madness takes it's toll

Don't they all maintain their innocence, though.

Seriously, I wonder how many prisoners actually "confess" to being guilty just seconds prior to the needle going in their arm when sentenced to lethal injection as punishment for a murder?

I'm satisfied this murderer is dead. I do believe that he will rot, in the ground, never to kill another innocent person again. Justice, here on earth, has been served. I'll lift a glass to the victims and hope their time here was well spent and enjoyed with those they loved.

All these posters are allegedly "happy" or "satisfied" that this guy was executed...bullshit!

If you're drinking (literally or figuratively) to the death of this guy who's been executed - or any other - you may as well be tipping a glass of blood rather than wine.

At some primordial level in your reptile brains - perhaps unbeknownst to you good samaritans - the news that some random guy was blowing random fuckers' brains out thrilled you. It had that effect on me. Don't be disingenuous. It makes the news cycle...EXCITING! Doesn't it??

That's why half the country is making a partisan spectacle of the Fort Hood shootings - if it wasn't Obama's fault, it is due to Islam as a whole. Opportunism par excellance.

The rest are just glad it didn't happen to them, but are nonetheless giddy as schoolchildren that SOMETHING is happening.

But, let's just be honest...news like this thrills us all, at a deep level.

Carnage, death, destruction, explosions...shit, we have evolved to LIVE for this stuff...

...first to deny it is unequivocally full of shit.

...first to deny it is unequivocally full of shit.

Posted by Zarathustra


I deny it. Thrilled? Sicko.

Bullshit. They make a choice when they become criminals.

#66 | Posted by boojiboy at 2009-11-10 06:50 PM


but they don't "make their choice" when they pop out of the womb. So, in effect, you agree with me 100%. Sorry if you can't see that, but that's how it is.

now if we would just start working harder on the backlog.

It would have cost a lot less to warehouse that guy for life, with no parole. He would die forgotten, and not even remembered as a crossword puzzle clue.

"Organized religion is a tool used to control the weak minded and is one of the biggest evil's to ever have graced planet earth"

Why bring Al Sharpton into this?

;P

I hope they harvested a couple organs before they killed him, they do belong to all of us ya know...

:(

"Organized religion is a tool used to control the weak minded and is one of the biggest evil's to ever have graced planet earth"


Was this comment meant for the Man Made Global Warming thread?

Speaking of global warming, I just got the Al Gore Green Hair Dryer... pretty cool, comes with a little wind turbine on top :)

Soylent Green y'all....

"It had that effect (excitement) on me (Ft. Hood killings)..."

Your reptilian brain may occupy more cranial capacity than most.

"We have evolved to LOVE this stuff (death and destruction)..."

Frankly, you begin to make an argument that the science of evolutionary biology is a means to control the weak-minded.

#130 - Thrilled, Zara?

There's an adrenaline rush that comes with danger and mayhem, certainly. But thrilled? I associate the word thrill with pleasure. I'm looking deep inside myself and I don't find a hint of pleasure in news of a serial killer.

Fascinated might be a better word to describe my reaction, as I strive to understand the inexplicable, such as why a human would choose to kill other humans at random. I also find Hitler, Stalin and Lee Harvey Oswald fascinating. But not thrilling.

That said, I agree with your point about the misguided cheering of the sniper's execution. There's nothing to cheer about here. The brother of one of the victims told Larry King he may have attained some closure, "but I would say that pretty much was overcome just by the sadness that the whole situation generates in my heart."

I also agree with you about the partisan spectacle that erupted after the Ft. Hood shootings - as it does with every other news event. Just check the DR for proof of that.

#1 | Posted by LarryMohr

No, being pro-abortion & anti-death penalty is the ultimate hypocrisy.

Once again, the death penalty is a deterrent when used properly, too bad it takes so many years.

Making killers out of Virginians once again. Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. The Death Penalty the Ultimate in Hypocrisy.
Larry

spoken like a true flaming liberal


Ithink they should have used him for target practice

r.i.h.m.f.

(rot in hell mother fucker)

"May he RIP. I can only think of the lessons he taught to society. He helped many learn that life is short and can be taken away at any time. I think republicans forget this lesson all too often and it takes a man like Muhammad to teach this lesson. I'm a quite sure if there is a heaven he will be welcomed with open arms."

If this is serious you should change your name from Jackass to Retard.

Islam is so decentralized it allows for violence prone clerics to develop a following; not only that but individuals take the option sometimes of making a personal do-it-yourself jihad against people nearby. The most important leaders of that religion need to have a council where they condemn the use of the religion for justification of violence.

3 cheers for the KKK. So, where do we go from here?

#124 | POSTED BY RINGMASTER AT 2009-11-11 12:08 AM | REPLY | FLAG

Are you a moron? KKK? So everyone who supports the death penalty is racist because this guy was black?

It is difficult to have any mercy for this guy, or the INS officials who released this illegal alien back onto the streets where he used his time to kill randomly.

But on a scale of (1-10), how large is his crimes compared to Shrub? I'd say about a (1).

Stop trying to whitewash it by using the word "executed".

He was murdered in cold blood by the state of Virginia, and by the people of the United States.

He was murdered in cold blood by the state of Virginia, and by the people of the United States.

Posted by DarkVader at 2009-11-11 07:49 PM | Reply

A FUCKING MEN. ABSOLUTELY Correct. They did to Him what He did to His victims. They coldly calculatedly killed Him in cold blood. There is NO g-d damned difference which makes killers out of every Virginian because their representatiuves ordered Him killed. Therefore You can never hold the moral high ground when You support the death penalty because You have already lusted after His death Yourself.

Larry

give it a rest.

Sorry Somoco we anti Death Penalty folks can not give it a rest. Not possible.

Larry

ok then just stop saying stupid shit.

i'm against the death penalty. but, i appreciate the opposite view, which i held for years. it's hardly murder for a state to execute an inmate after conviction of a crime. bitch all you want about it, it's been fully litigated in every court in the nation.

through hysterics, you cheapen the argument, and make death penalty opponents seem like fringe actors. that doesn't help the cause, at all.

#66 | Posted by boojiboy at 2009-11-10 06:50 PM


but they don't "make their choice" when they pop out of the womb. So, in effect, you agree with me 100%. Sorry if you can't see that, but that's how it is.

#132 | Posted by bellaspapa at 2009-11-11 04:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

Nooooo nooooo noooo bellaspapa (i like the name by the way, nice handle!)

It comes down to decision time and free will. Remember the gang of thugs who beat the kid to death in Chicago walking home from highschool? Ends up he was a straight up kid, working hard to better his life? What separated him from the dude who beat him to death with a 2 x 4? Grew up in the same town. Same shit hole. Why did the one kid chose to work hard and make something of himself (RIP) while the other kid is a waste of human flesh?

I agree, we are molded from our experience. But its up to us. I remember this wise latina diabetic chick, umm, who was she? Some judge or something?

Sure it is murder just the same murder that condemned the first murderer to find Himself on Death Row. What's different between the State coldly calculatedly killing another person and the recipent of the death penalty themselves?? NOTHING. EXACT SAME. As a matter of fact I would go one step further that the Death penalty is worse because that individual wakes up that day knowing He is about to be killed. NOT so for His victim. But You do carry on Somoco and I'll do the same against people that support Capital Punishment/Murder

Larry

ok

it's not the same though. one's a punishment for a crime committed with special circumstances proved beyond reasonable doubt. the other is the deliberate taking of another human being without justification - in this case, without reason.

if you cannot distinguish the two, then i'm afraid you've probably already reached your level of maximum achievement.

Lar, since I have found that you're a very consistent and non-contradictory person in your posting; I'll bet your pro life.

Jackass -
Are you actually for real - or is there Internet access in the mental hospital?

You absolutely, positively HAVE to be joking with your posts. Come on - fill us in.

Thanks,

JM

Bunch of morons!!!

There is a huge difference between the state executing, hell call it murder if you want, the people he murdered were innocent. He was guilty.

Now, let's fry the Ft. Hood MURDERER!!!

Did you know that the vast majority of murders in the U.S. are committed by Christians?

#87 | Posted by nullifidian


Did you know that the vast majority of murders in the U.S. are committed by Americans?

One major difference between the murder of an innocent and the murder of a convicted murderer is that the murderer could have prevented his own murder. Just don't kill anyone, your own murder has been averted. The poor sap who got plugged walking into a walgreens didn't have that option.

P.S. John Allen Muhammad will never kill again, if that's not enough justification for you then you are just being a contrarian for the sake of pissing off the right minded people of the world. Which is a waste of time, because we're already pissed off.

Just don't kill anyone, your own murder has been averted.

oh really? How are you going to to tell those who may have been innocent?


"Perhaps the bleakest fact of all is that the death penalty is imposed not only in a freakish and discriminatory manner, but also in some cases upon defendants who are actually innocent."
Supreme Court Justice William J. Brennan Jr. 1994

Innocent People are on Death Row and May Have Been Executed

*
At least 139 people have been exonerated from death row since 1973, including 23 from Florida alone. (Death Penalty Information Center)

*
In recent years, three major U.S. newspapers the Chicago Tribune, the Houston Chronicle and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported that four executed inmates in all probability were innocent. They are Ruben Cantu of Texas, Carlos De Luna of Texas, Larry Griffin of Missouri, and Cameron Todd Willingham of Texas.

*
A study identified 23 instances in the last century in which a person with an extraordinarily strong case of innocence had been executed by the government. (H. Bedeau & M. Radelet, "Miscarriages of Justice in Potentially Capital Cases" Stanford Law Review, 1987)

P.S. John Allen Muhammad will never kill again...

Life in prison without parole would have worked just as well and would probably have been cheaper.

But, as long as YOU feel better about his DEATH well then it's all ok right? We wouldn't want to piss you off or anything. His DEATH is such a small price to pay for your happiness.

Lar, since I have found that you're a very consistent and non-contradictory person in your posting; I'll bet your pro life.

#157 | Posted by matsop

Actually I bet Larry is Pro Choice. Regardless of your propaganda We are ALL pro life. Labeling oneself Pro-Life is the same as calling the anti-terrorism bill H.R. 3162 the "Patriot Act".

I will bet by the wording of your statement that YOU are Anti-Choice.

May he rot in hell.

Its all about Free Will. He made a CHOICE to not be human, and therefore not be viewed as having the value that all humans have. He MADE A CHOICE to flush his humanity down the toilet. No one made it for him. He MADE THE CHOICE himself. He chose to be what he was, and society merely respected his choice.

Judging people by the content of their character is all about holding them responsible for their choices of action AND DELIBERATE/WAFFLING INACTION. If you don't JUDGE people based on the choices they make, you are AGAINST judging people by the content of their character.

It never ceases to amaze me just how many idiots say we should not "judge" scum like John Allen Muhammad.

The most brainless among the fools often cite the "Judge not, lest ye be judged" quote. Talk about out of context.....

Others just cite the touchy feely anything goes attitude so many idiots have. They tend to conclude that anyone the cops have locked up must be being persecuted (unless it is a conservative white male...), and then when some released criminal rapes/murders/etc, the same 'non-judging' idiots blame the cops, NOT themselves, and then a few months down the road talk only about shoddy police work in the trial of the killer.......

May John Allen Muhammad rot in hell.


Lar, since I have found that you're a very consistent and non-contradictory person in your posting; I'll bet your pro life.

#157 | Posted by matsop at 2009-11-11 09:23 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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I am pro life with in the bounds of My personal life. I knock up a Woman I want the baby. If it's anyone else I am pro choice because I have no right dictating what another does with their bodies. Sorry.

Larry

Actually I bet Larry is Pro Choice. Regardless of your propaganda We are ALL pro life. Labeling oneself Pro-Life is the same as calling the anti-terrorism bill H.R. 3162 the "Patriot Act".


I will bet by the wording of your statement that YOU are Anti-Choice.

#163 | Posted by donnerboy at 2009-11-12 02:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Yes Sir quite correct.

May he rot in hell....Its all about Free Will. He made a CHOICE to not be human, and therefore not be viewed as having the value that all humans have. He MADE A CHOICE to flush his humanity down the toilet. No one made it for him. He MADE THE CHOICE himself. He chose to be what he was, and society merely respected his choice.


Jesus once told a story about a king who commends his subjects because they helped him when he was hungry, thirsty, without clothes, in prison or sick. The subjects professed ignorance about having done any of these things to him. The king replied that when they had helped the "least among you," that is, those in need, they had met him ("When you did it to them; it was like you did it to me").


So, you just killed Jesus again. Good job USAF.

Lame Brain Larry upholds the rights of the guilty to live and on the other hand, ignores the right of innocent people to live their lives unfettered by some nut job terrorist bent on killing in the name of their religion.

But then, the left always supports the decadent criminal elements of this society over the good decent people trying to live their lives.

At least those mindlessly against the death penalty for murderers are consistent: That is, Larry and his ilk have no problem killing innocent life in the womb and also disregard the taking of innocent life by those in our society, whatever breed of animal they are, who torture and kill their fellow citizens.

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