Wow. This thread will be fun, as long as its not ignored by the most ardent civil liberties liberals.

You post an interesting article and the first thing you do is smear mierda all over it by making it a partisan thing.

AMERICA IS FINISHED!!!!

:-(

The libbies only concern themselves with privacy issues when it's Republicans who are running the Justice Department.

Beginning in 2013, it'll be a big issue again, along with the Iraq War, Afghanistan, the Patriot Act, and so on. In fact, wasn't there a thread up a couple of days ago criticizing Republicans for not helping to "strengthen" the Patriot Act?

They're funny, these libbies.

"The libbies only concern themselves with privacy issues when it's Republicans who are running the Justice Department."
#4 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-11-10 10:18 AM | Reply | Flag:inaccurate universalization

H.C. - is what I stated far from the truth?

"H.C. - is what I stated far from the truth?"

If you're suggesting that this hasn't been done before Obama, then yes, your statement is far from the truth.

You treat the story as if the most important thing is that Obama's DOJ is the one pursuing this.

EVERYBODY BACKTRACK TO 06/25/08 - what were y'all up to that day - think quickly - you may need an alibi!

Sure Hagbard. I can already see the outrage. CorkSarvisforthLarryMohrVille will be along any moment to excoriate Obama's Justice Department for First Amendment violations.

No--wait. I think there might be a Fox News thread up somewhere.

#9 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-11-10 10:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

You're on a roll this morning, RIR. Sleep through the alarm or something?

H.C. - When are you going to admit that this administration is taking more liberties than any of the previous?
#10 | Posted by nanc

I don't even know how to respond to that question.

I just think that if this thread were up 18 months ago, and the headline was "Bush DOJ Demands Newssite Visitor Information", and that the grand jury further demanded that the inquiry be kept secret, that we would be seeing more than one libbie ring in by now.

But no. Libbies are fairly insouciant now about all the things that really pissed them off while Bush was around.

#13

If people were honest, they would admit that RIR is right.

#12 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine - what about the "orders" to not speak to FOX NEWS? I hope you realize this before your rights are encroached upon. Yet he allows gitmo detainees "Miranda Rights".

"what about the "orders" to not speak to FOX NEWS?"

Dana Perino admitted that Bush did essentially the same thing to MSNBC.

Libbies are fairly insouciant now about all the things that really pissed them off while Bush was around.
#13 | Posted by rightisright

Some democrats may be.

But the question is easily turned around. Were you or any other GOP'ers upset over this stuff during the Bush admin?

I was then, and my feelings have not changed. In fact, I'm a little more upset because I expect more from this President.

Oh, and you're wrong about Larry, RIR.

He's practically stroking out over a lot of the stuff the President is doing these days.

Not really. But I'm not really into faux outrage.

You don't strike me as particularly upset. You spent your first six posts in this thread deflecting to Bush, and criticizing other posters.

Good of you to show up, at least, even if you're just pretending. More than I can say for your libtard pals.

H.C. - You're not usually a tit-for-tat guy, but even you must admit obama gets a pass from every news org besides FOX - all those who kiss his hiney took bush to task regularly, ad nauseum.

p.s. At least bush took it for several years before "freezing" msnbc out and didn't order those in his administration to ignore them.

"But the question is easily turned around. Were you or any other GOP'ers upset over this stuff during the Bush admin?"

I don't call myself a GOP'er, Hag, I'm more conservative than that. But, if I may interject, I'll answer YES to your question. The Bush administration spent wildly, increased size of government and gave the government more power over us. The Obama administration has continued and increased all the above to an incredible extent. MOST people don't even seem to be aware of the government's power. Here is just a small example, it should be required watching by every U.S. citizen:

I'm not really into faux outrage.
#19 | Posted by rightisright

In other words, you're as screwed in the noggin as you sound?

p.s. At least bush took it for several years before "freezing" msnbc out and didn't order those in his administration to ignore them.
#21 | Posted by nanc

You have to admit that FOX hit the ground running even before January.

Well, I guess you don't have to admit it, but you should.

Oh, and Nanc, you have to listen to/watch Rachel Maddowe. She is definitely not an Obama Cheerleader.

Full disclosure: I've got a bit of a man-crush on Maddowe.

"The grand jury subpoena also required the Philadelphia-based Indymedia.us Web site "not to disclose the existence of this request" unless authorized by the Justice Department, a gag order that presents an unusual quandary for any news organization."

See the video in my #21. It's worse than you think. All you "progressives" who like big government absolutely MUST see it.

#25 - GOOD LUCK WIDDAT!

Yes, I was proud of her when she took him to task last month. Glenn Beck is another who holds to no party line - he jumps EVERYBODY! So, he's a little hyper...

"In other words, you're as screwed in the noggin as you sound?"

Mornin', Doc? Who's in your barrel today? Looks like Vernon, Cookfish and the rest of your favorites are missing so you've selected RIR. Hold on for a while and I'll see if I can find a Palin thread somewhere. I'll link you to it to give you something to do today.

-I've got a bit of a man-crush on Maddowe

Hmmmm, I'm trying to figure out how that at would work....

#29 - H.C. is a lesbian?

Doc needs something to do. He teaches three classes a semester, which gives him something like 36 free hours a week from 8-5.

Fair enough though. He's Exhibit A as to why higher education is screaming for reform. And between sky-high tuition costs, astronomical student debt loads, and the resurgence of inexpensive and convenient online education, the free market is doing all the heavy lifting for us. Enjoy it while you can Doc.

-free market is doing all the heavy lifting for us.

People who learned from the deregulation of financial markets that led to this recession that we should deregulate markets.

Dunce caps are in the corner.

Starvis is a college professor? What does he teach? Keyboarding?

#33 - No, "Loafing 101".

Glenn Beck...So, he's a little hyper...
#27 | Posted by nanc

Beck? Hyper? Not any moreso than your run-of-the-mill former drug and alcohol addict who slathers himself in Vicks Vaporub to induce faux crying jags.

#25 - GOOD LUCK WIDDAT!

That's what my wife said.

Anita Dunn - potussa media deflector - leaving post at end of month:

#36 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine - your wife could always get a pixie haircut and put a wallet and comb in her back pocket...

Nanc,

Can you stop using potussa?

For me, please?

As a personal favor?

for you? Okay, but only on the days you're here!

Potussa!

"Beck? Hyper? Not any moreso than your run-of-the-mill former drug and alcohol addict who slathers himself in Vicks Vaporub to induce faux crying jags."

You gotta believe Doc on this. He has had intimate personal experience with every form of alcohol and hallucinogin on earth and his cryin' jags are REAL!

Well, actually, Jest, it's common knowledge that Glennn Beck has a drug and alcohol addiction problem. No smear; he's mentioned it. And the use of Vicks Vaporub to create those ridiculous tears to accompany his equally ridiculous faked crying jags can be accessed on YouTube. Now, put your Hillbilly Heroin aside and go feed the pigs.

Beck has been clean since 1994 - I was under the impression the left was all about personal redemption?

DOH! Beck doesn't walk their line so he doesn't count! I get it now. Resume party.

Potussa!
#41 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

The first time I saw that I thought it was some kind of swahili joke or something.

Beck has been clean since 1994 - I was under the impression the left was all about personal redemption?
#44 | Posted by nanc

I dont know. Were you under the impression the left is all about personal redemption?

Frankly, I have a major problem with people who declare themselves to be former addicts. Ever heard of the dry drunk syndrome, e.g. George Bush?

Sorry, former addicts get me into the mode where I'm checking my wallet, counting my fingers and toes, and waiting for the scam to reveal itself.

"The first time I saw that I thought it was some kind of swahili joke or something."

It's definitely a bit jarring.

"Now, put your Hillbilly Heroin aside and go feed the pigs."

Haven't had pigs since in MO back in the forties, Doc. No hillbilly heroin here either, just suds and an ocassional scotch. I'm just a good ol' boy, an Appalachian-American leading a tame life here on the mountain...not like you lively denizens in the halls of academia. I bet you get some remarkable parties goin' on there, don'tcha? What did mCCain call 'em,..."pharmeceutical events" was it?

p - resident
o - f
t - he
u - nited
s - ocialist
s - tates of
a - merika

I really don't know, Jest. Why don't you do some research and report back around the 150th anniversary of Woodstock?

p.s. - I don't know any swahili jokes! Do you?

"Potussa!"
#41 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

"The first time I saw that I thought it was some kind of swahili joke or something.

I thought of The Lion King.

Oh wait...that was Mufasa. : )

Soooooooo, everyone thought I was making swahili jokes? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!

Sounds like a song I remember...

I say Mufasa, you say Potussa!

Sorry...getting silly.

#50 | Posted by nanc at 2009-11-10 12:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

You forgot your pledge in #40 in 36 minutes?

p.s. - I don't know any swahili jokes! Do you?
#52 | Posted by nanc

bwana potussa.

Thats a gift.

55 posts. And no libbies ringing in on the topic at hand.

What a surprise. Remember when they would go around saying stuff like, "Pay as you go!", and "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism!". They were funny then, balling up their little fists, pretending like they actually cared about stuff like that.

At least bush took it for several years before "freezing" msnbc out

So that somehow makes it okay?

"I really don't know, Jest. Why don't you do some research and report back around the 150th anniversary of Woodstock?"

Now, Doc, you KNOW I cain't count that hi. I gotta go fer now. Gonna clean my .58 caliber Cook and Brother carbine and sit out on the porch with it in case some over-edumacated yankee comes up hair. Don't let it be YOU, Doc, 'cuz I kinda like 'ya and woodnt want to draw a bede on 'ya.

"I say Mufasa, you say Potussa!"

Potussa!
Potussa, Potussa bo Boosa
Bonana fanna fo Foosa
Fee fy mo Moosa...Potussa!

Beck has been clean since 1994

So he is proof that drug use does PERMANENTLY damage the brain.

BTW, you know he is clean personally how?

Everyone knew Rush Limbaugh was not a drug addict until they knew he was a drug addict.

#57 - How - I haven't used it since then - I merely specified what it means so people wouldn't think I was making a "swahili" joke!

#60 | Posted by jestgettinalong

Yeah, Jest, I'll use that password you gave me: "Gubmint man! Oh, here come the gubmint man!"

726 - I never said that. Are you saying that?

H.C. - now that you know it is not a swahili joke, may I go back to using it?

"#57 - How - I haven't used it since then - I merely specified what it means so people wouldn't think I was making a "swahili" joke!"

hmmmm..... wiggle wiggle.

"now that you know it is not a swahili joke, may I go back to using it?"

Nein. Ist verboten.

WELL POOP!

726 - I never said that. Are you saying that?

#65 | Posted by nanc at 2009-11-10 12:59 PM | Reply


Beck has been clean since 1994 - I was under the impression the left was all about personal redemption?

#44 | Posted by nanc at 2009-11-10 12:34 PM

Lassie, would you care to rephrase that?

"And no libbies ringing in on the topic at hand."

Okay, you're right.

They did withdraw the subpoena though.

#69 - I believe they're just throwing their weight around to put the scare into ordinary folks, h.c. Although, after seeing what they did to joe the plumber, we know just what they're capable of.

Obama's socialist Government wants to silence any and all opposition. Their attack on Fox News is not by accident it's part of their agenda. BLOGGERS are already the next target and if you think the Constitution will protect you think again, the main stream media is a willing participant in this attack along with Liberals who would be all too happy to trample the Constitution to further the agenda of their God Obama. Liberals support Obama's socialistic regime because they are all weak minded people who embrace Socialism...

#68 | Posted by 726 - take another toke and listen carefully - Glenn Beck has been clean for over 15 years - your side continues to vilify him - which tells me you have no forgiveness in you. capiche? I typed that slowly so you could grasp the entire simplicity of it all.

#69 - I believe they're just throwing their weight around to put the scare into ordinary folks, h.c.
#70 | Posted by nanc

I have no idea what they were intending, the story is sketchy on the details. I was never one of those under the impression that the new administration would be all rainbows and lollypops, even comparatively speaking.

Although, after seeing what they did to joe the plumber, we know just what they're capable of.
#70 | Posted by nanc

Ugh.... He did it to himself.

Liberals support Obama's socialistic regime because they are all weak minded people who embrace Socialism...
#71 | Posted by ATaxpayer

LMAO.

FF

#73 - people are being investigated for abusing their powers to search for info on him via government computer programs - are you comfortable with that?

#73 - people are being investigated for abusing their powers to search for info on him via government computer programs - are you comfortable with that?
#75 | Posted by nanc

Call me dense, but I don't know what you just wrote. Who are "people", "their" and "him"?

The people who slyly investigated him without cause on government computers.

"The Toledo Police Department confirms that one of its records clerks has been charged with performing an unlawful search of Joe The Plumber's records."

"The people who slyly investigated him without cause on government computers."

The Toledo Police Department is part of the federal government under Obama.... a week before he was even elected?

And i'd almost go along with you if these clerks did not lose their jobs for it.

It was bigger than that, H.C.:

"God help anybody else who asks a derogatory question of his people."

That's overly enthusiastic citizens.... who have all paid a price for their behavior. You can't pin that on Obama. Call me when there is a coordinated effort from the oval office to do something like this.

I think you misconstrue the intent of that email.

The libbies only concern themselves with privacy issues when it's Republicans who are running the Justice Department.

Beginning in 2013, it'll be a big issue again, along with the Iraq War, Afghanistan, the Patriot Act, and so on. In fact, wasn't there a thread up a couple of days ago criticizing Republicans for not helping to "strengthen" the Patriot Act?

They're funny, these libbies.

#4 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-11-10 10:18 AM | Reply |

Really how dumb you gotta be? You gave the "libbies" all of 10 mins to respond on the backpage. Lets be real you had this rant pent up to go no matter what the fuck went down. Your sucking hard on the cock of bias!. And you've done this everytime whether there was libbie outrage or not. You've been quick to point out the hypocrisy even when it doesn't actually exist or before you've even given anyonce a chance to prove otherwise. Its because you don't care, you've got a narrative and your sticking to it, be damned to hell with reality.

And everyone on the left thought it would be Bush-2 who would abuse the rights of THE PEOPLE! Who's next? RRRRRRRRRRRCADE?

For those of you with a short memory, during the Bush term they had the indymedia servers straight up stolen and renditioned. For 3 months the feds claimed they didn't know anything about anything. The servers did not exist, at least until the lawsuits worked themselves thru and it was discovered the FBI was sent in to steal them. And by "steal" I mean confiscated without warrant or notice. And this went down in the UK. I mean really?

At least this time, the feds are "asking". Thats an improvement right?

At least this time, the feds are "asking". Thats an improvement right?
#84 | Posted by KnightHawk

LOL. Sure its an improvement, but not one to be touting.

narrative and your sticking to it, be damned to hell with reality.

#83 | Posted by KnightHawk

Translation: DAMN PESKY FACTS AGAIN BWAHHHHHH I want my mommy...

68 | Posted by 726 - take another toke and listen carefully - Glenn Beck has been clean for over 15 years - your side continues to vilify him - which tells me you have no forgiveness in you. capiche? I typed that slowly so you could grasp the entire simplicity of it all.

#72 | Posted by nanc at 2009-11-10 01:36 PM | Reply | Flag

Again, how do you know he is clean?

Everyone thought Rush was not a drug addict until he was a drug addict.

Surely even a simpleton like you can answer a simple fucking question.

BTW Beck is attacked for being a crazy ass liar. Could be the drugs, could be mental instability on his part.

Guess we will never know.

How do you know OBAMA himself is still clean?

Surely you can answer a simple question.

#87 | Posted by 726 at 2009-11-10 03:38 PM

Really how dumb you gotta be? You gave the "libbies" all of 10 mins to respond on the backpage. Lets be real you had this rant pent up to go no matter what the fuck went down. Your sucking hard on the cock of bias!. And you've done this everytime whether there was libbie outrage or not. You've been quick to point out the hypocrisy even when it doesn't actually exist or before you've even given anyonce a chance to prove otherwise. Its because you don't care, you've got a narrative and your sticking to it, be damned to hell with reality.

#83 | Posted by KnightHawk
* * * *

The reality is that you don't have a problem with the Justice Department demanding visitor info, just my pointing out the fact.

Your break is over. Re-assume your position, in front of Obama's nut sack.

WELKOME KOMRADES

sieg heil

welkome to

OBMAMA"S AMERIKA

Good to see that Beck's drug addiction is more important than the justice department demanding personal info. of anonymous commenters on the internet. Must be tough being a liberal these days, so many things you used to be able to get riled about that you now have to passively let slide by.

Starvis is a college professor? What does he teach? Keyboarding?

#33 | Posted by JOE at 2009-11-10 11:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

Adjunct faculty substitute at the community college.

In the remedial education department

#83 | Posted by KnightHawk at 2009-11-10 03:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Another libbie finally responds, with another non-answer to the topic at hand

Criminal subversion of lawfull authority. To purposefully ignore or disregard the authority of that document, to undo or eliminate, without the authority to do so, its law.
It's in that piece of paper.
They do not have such an authority. They must have specific evidence against an individual, and state the same, and yes virginia, it is in there. Just like the prohibition on representation of business, except for negotiating trade agreements, which benefit our nation.
Govcorpco. is the largest organised crime operation on the planet. All 4 branches, criminal and traiterous in their representation.

Massive fail.

The following changes the flavor a good bit.

From the article: "Update 1:59pm E.T.: A Justice Department official familiar with this subpoena just told me that the attorney general's office never saw it and that it had not been submitted to the department's headquarters in Washington, D.C. for review. If that's correct, it suggests that U.S. Attorney Tim Morrison and Assistant U.S. Attorney Doris Pryor did not follow department regulations requiring the "express authorization of the attorney general" for media subpoenas -- and it means that neither Attorney General Eric Holder nor Acting Attorney General Mark Filip were involved. I wouldn't be surprised to see an internal investigation by the Office of Professional Responsibility; my source would not confirm or deny that."