Just a misunderstanding. He was trying to order a pizza.

A fellow Army doctor who studied with Hasan, Val Finell, told ABC News, "We would frequently say he was a Muslim first and an American second. And that came out in just about everything he did at the University.

Finell said he and other Army doctors complained to superiors about Hasan's statements.

"And we questioned how somebody could take an oath of officebe an officer in the military and swear allegiance to the constitution and to defend America against all enemies, foreign and domestic and have that type of conflict," Finell told ABC News.

More 'don't ask don't tell'.

And had the intelligence services actually used the fact that this POS tried to contact Al Queda and tried to remove him, the libbies would have asked for the evidence to be thrown out.

It is disturbing, though, how many warning flags this guy sent up, that nobody bothered to do anything about.

Mega dittos RIR. Newsworthy.

Damn and all this time I thought ESKIMOS were behind these attacks, who would have ever guessed al-Qaida and the religion of PEACE....

It is disturbing, though, how many warning flags this guy sent up, that nobody bothered to do anything about.

#3 | Posted by rightisright

I hear you and agree, it also makes me wonder how many did nothing because of the shambles our intelligence agencies are in thanks to the new regime. I still think the Great spirit and Eskimos are involved somehow this way almost no one would be offended by the TRUTH...

Mega dittos RIR

Says it all.

Very good retort, 2008. You are devoid of valid opinions.

"No he didn't."

the left

You are devoid of valid opinions

Uh huh, sure.

Did I hurt your feelings? I just love it the "megadittoes" comment, it shows the complete lack of independent and critical thought and highlights to a tee the intellectual capacity of rushbots everywhere.

Sounds like a terrorist.

Well the shooter is awake and talking.

Claiming insanity no doubt.

And the FBI went to the base declaring it was not terrorism 2 minutes after the reports came out.

This stinks to high heaven.

Murphy SO wanted this to be terrorism....

damn sneaky Muzlims!!

Shut up Corky! Your sarcasm is stupid.

This should not have happened--and the documents --if not already destroyed--will come out.

-Your sarcasm is stupid.

My baloney has a first name, it's H-O-M-E-R....

#14 | Posted by MURPHY

What part of the Uniform Code of Military Justice do you see as applying to military personnel who are "Muslim radicals"?

FF for Corky--doh!

"This stinks to high heaven."

Does steanch actually rise all the way to heaven and are the Angels and God bothered by it??

Doc--maybe you should read the stuff this guy was doing and saying and ranting about.

His oath is to the country.

He wasn't doing that.

They stopped giving him patients because he was denouncing the US efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It may be found that there was a cover up when people complained about him and were told to not bother reporting him.

Is comes down to why did he do it?

The military better do some changes to root this out. Otherwise, we could have more of the same.

How about these folks:

Should they all be discharged??

"The military better do some changes to root this out. Otherwise, we could have more of the same."

I bet some military people are in serious hot water right now about all of this.

Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.

gee, who was C-in-C in 2001?

oh right,Clinton!

Shut up Corky! Your sarcasm is stupid.

#14 | Posted by MURPHY

Murphy,

Corky is serious. He's not being sarcastic.

Corky needs to get to know a few moderate Muslims to begin to understand how they think and how much Islam has brainwashed even the most moderate.

It's like Catholicism in the 15th Century during the Spanish Inquisition.

Prove me wrong! You can't.

gee, who was C-in-C in 2001?

oh right,Clinton!

#22 | Posted by northguy3

What does this even mean?

Northguy, I'm amazed that you think most people on this blog are as ignorant as you!

I guess that's a part of being ignorant. You never know how ignorant you are. The more you know...

eddie sounds like one of those brainwashed muslims he's squawking about.

everyone's brainwashed, either by religion or bigotry or blind loyalty for something or other. me, i'm 18 and i'm brainwashed by naked women, or at the very least the thought of them, but then again i'm in college and i get plenty of opportunities to succumb to temptation.

If they knew about this for months, why didn't they do anything?

Who said they didn't do anything?

When the cops see a drug dealer, do they arrest the dealer or do they watch to see who the dealer buys the goods.

How many more dealers and sellers can the police find?

So, was the FBI just watching him until they had enough evidence to get him - or did they use the opportunity to build a much bigger case.

Makes a lot more sense that they did nothing because they were actually doing something on a larger scale.

guns + militaristic society + religious fervor = bad stuff hapening. whether it is some born-agan dude going overseas to shoot abunch of towelheads in iraq for jesus, or some muslim dude goin' bin laden in a base in texas.

-Corky needs to get to know a few moderate Muslims to begin to understand how they think and how much Islam has brainwashed even the most moderate

Eddie "thinks" that Muslims are like Republicans, that even the moderates are brainwashed..... but alas, 'tisn't so ..... most Muslims are peaceful theists and only a few are radical extremists.... again, unlike Republicans.

It would have been just as big a warning sign if he were trying to contact the Knights of Columbus.

Sincerely,

The Wilfully Stupid PC Crowd

So, what they're saying is the Obama administration knew about this guy and did nothing? To apply the reasoning of the left, as in 9/11, then this should be Obama's fault and he should be tried for murder and treason.

Hey come on guys. It was just some guy who went berserk. (I wonder if he was on anti-depressants.)

Don't make such a big deal about this. You guys are just Muslim haters seeing phantom connections to Islamic extremism.

The little o said for us not to jump to conclusions about him being a terrorist. Of corse we should listen to him after he jumped to a conclusion about the Boston cops when they arested his mouthy buddy.

#19 | Posted by MURPHY

I responded to you post, asking what part of the Uniform Code of Military Justice you see as applying to military personnel who are "Muslim radicals."

You are evidently unable to offer any suggestions along this line.

Of corse we should listen to him after he jumped to a conclusion about the Boston cops when they arested his mouthy buddy.

#32 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-11-09 12:52 PM | Reply

Maybe this will turn out to be another one of Dear Leaders 'Teachable Moments'.
.

what part of the Uniform Code of Military Justice you see as applying to military personnel who are "Muslim radicals"

That would be Article 104.

Obviously gay people are a lot more dangerous than a deranged Moslem fanatic with guns.

The stereotyping is sickening:

1. He is a Muslim
2. He is of Palestinian origins
3. He tried to contact Al Qaeda

This is supposed to mean that he is a terrorist?
The rush to judgement is divisive, as well as offensive.

The investigators is on full display with their
ethnic/racial/religious profiling. My keen sensibilities
have been deeply offended. Hopefully CAIR can
assist with this army major's fair trial.

Be Well.

I realize that the right NEEDS this to be called 'terrorism' so they can say "Obama hasn't kept America safe" but why were the rightards so desperate to stomp out any talk of terrorism when a muslim soldier tossed a grenade into the tent of other soldiers just days before the Iraq war began?

I hope the right does run with this and tries to attack the President with it. It will backfire nicely in their faces.

4. He murdered a bunch of unarmed innocent people to promote his cause.

That makes him a terrorist.

calling al Qaeda, calling al Qaeda....

here's your student visa, sorry it took so long

The little o said for us not to jump to conclusions about him being a terrorist. Of corse we should listen to him after he jumped to a conclusion about the Boston cops when they arested his mouthy buddy.

#32 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-11-09 12:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Fuuny stuff coming from a Bush Lockstpper who still hangs on the Cheeleader-In-Chiefs words.

Hey come on guys. It was just some guy who went berserk. (I wonder if he was on anti-depressants.)

Don't make such a big deal about this. You guys are just Muslim haters seeing phantom connections to Islamic extremism.

#31 | Posted by HopeyChangey

You are nucking futs. Can't you understand the stuff that is comming out about his past? Jump on line and read the London Telegraph to get the non-PS verson of the guy.

By the way, how is that change working for you hop?

It's also emerging that he used a "Soldiers of Allah" calling card that he gave out to people.

"The stereotyping is sickening:

1. He is a Muslim
2. He is of Palestinian origins
3. He tried to contact Al Qaeda"

WTF are you talking about? Personally, the whole "terrorist" label is a game of semantics to me in this case. But to make the arguement that he's being called a terrorist by some for no other reason than he's being 'stereotyped' is just beyond assinine.

First of all, Al Queda is a terrorist group so it isn't "stereotyping" to associate it with terrorism.

Secondly, you inexplicably left a big part of why some people choose to call him a terrorist off the list:

4. He murdered a bunch of innocent people indiscriminately for no other reason than to cause terror.

Uniform Code of Military Justice

Doc --not my area of expertise on court martials in the military.

I am sure you could enlighten us.

PC contributed to killing those soldiers at Ft. Hood.

-------

but why were the rightards so desperate to stomp out any talk of terrorism when a muslim soldier tossed a grenade into the tent of other soldiers just days before the Iraq war began? CS

Who on the right was saying this wasn't terrorism?

It was a lone jihadist--just like this asshole who had a delusional calling to kill his fellow soldiers.

This dude is a terrorist.

the stereotyping has nothing to do with the "terrorist" label.

the stereo typing has to do with calling all muslims terrorists

SULLY

a mosque in VA called Bal ALi Hirah (sp)

this bastard attended along with TWO of 9/11 murderers.
on blog today the iman who is now in yeman wrote that HASSAN was right and correct in killing anyone who was at war with islam.

so much for stereotypes.

and I agree with RALPH PETERS>..US ARMY (ret)

the political correctness of the US army killed those people as much as this major did.

ALSO In houston chronicle today..article from JAG about how much and how long its going to cost to put him on trial with OUR MONEY.

RESULT>..a real tragdy was this scum still drawing breath.

This dude is a terrorist.

In the sense that he killed a bunch of people to create terror, yes. Any mass shooter is basically a "terrorist" in tat sense. It wasn't terrorism perpetrated by a terrorist organization, though. This guy has more in common with the VA Tech shooter than the 9/11 hijackers.

Terrorist organizations have political goals and terrorism is the means they use to advance those goals. No matter how decentralized they are, many individuals may have a hand in plotting, rehearsing, and coordinating their attacks. It's a team effort.

To the families of the people who died, the difference may seem insignificant. It's an important distinction to make because the government can deal with terrorist organizations but it is extraordinarily difficult to prevent attacks by a deranged lone gunman.

"In the sense that he killed a bunch of people to create terror, yes. Any mass shooter is basically a "terrorist" in tat sense. It wasn't terrorism perpetrated by a terrorist organization, though. This guy has more in common with the VA Tech shooter than the 9/11 hijackers."

That's pretty funny.

So he identified with a part of a faction of an organization called Islam that promotes conducting terrorist attacks to achieve an end. Nope, No terrorism here. Move along.

If this same guy had said that abortion is wrong and that there should be a right to kill abortion providers and he had a signon his front door that said "Jusus" and he passed out "Soldiers of Christ" calling cards-

"Army chief of staff Gen. George Casey said this weekend that he is concerned that the deadly shooting at Ft. Hood last week could "cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers."

"I've asked our Army leaders to be on the lookout for that," Gen. Casey told CNN on Sunday, stating that "as great a tragedy as this was, it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well."

On Monday, the family of one of the victims offered a hand of support to the Muslim community. Michael Cahill, a physician's assistant at the base, was the only civilian to be killed in the attacks, and his family spoke to CBS News to denounce the scapegoating of Muslims.

"You can't blanket a whole group of people. There's extremists in every religion, and there's extremists all over the world," said Cahill's daughter, Kerry. "And I don't think that we can blanket a whole group of people when this man obviously was ill, I think."

Cahill's other daughter, Keely Vanacker, expanded: "The death of our father, or any of these victims, shouldn't be an excuse or reason to begin to hate an entire group of people."

vid

corkie

there were more than enough signs to go forward with getting this fuck out of the army
from the comments about suicide bombers to complaints from patients

and as PETERS>..army ret said in his article

the commanders who knew this were more concerned with thier careers than what this man might do because of political correctness

and TODAY we hear about the mosque and the iman who is now in yeman.

and ALL ON OBAMAS WATCH AS president....

-the commanders who knew this were more concerned with thier careers than what this man might do because of political correctness

That's one person's opinion, unlikely as it may be.

Good thing 911 didn't happen ON GW'S WATCH AS president

So he identified with a part of a faction of an organization called Islam that promotes conducting terrorist attacks to achieve an end. Nope, No terrorism here.

A terrorist attack involves an element of criminal conspiracy that was not present in this case. That's not for Hassan's lack of effort - he did try to contact a terrorist organization. Hassan never received the support of al qaida, though. No matter how much he may have liked their ideology, without the support of other terrorists he could only carry out a "lone gunman" style of attack.

You could certainly classify the guy as a terrorist and I never said otherwise. All I am saying is that when you give him that label, you need to keep in mind the fact that there was no element of conspiracy in this attack. That fact puts this attack in an entirely different category as something the USS Cole bombing.

What IS a good thing is that there are families like the one in the above article that are not so stupid as to blame an entire people for the actions of a few, or just one person, even when those actions effect them much more directly than they do the faux-outraged haters around here.... present library-bound Tejanos excluded.

"Good thing 911 didn't happen ON GW'S WATCH AS president"

Actually the operation was planned and put into operation during Bill and Hill's Administration.

You know, that's the administration that emasculated our intelligence community and military.

DopeyChangey was emasculated at a Teabagger Party by a Palinite who circumcised him into, "The Family".

Which apparently caused him to be unable to sit thru his reading comprehension classes, for had he done so he would have seen that my comment was in retort to BL2's blame for the FT Hood tragedy on Obama.

"A terrorist attack involves an element of criminal conspiracy that was not present in this case. That's not for Hassan's lack of effort - he did try to contact a terrorist organization. Hassan never received the support of al qaida, though. No matter how much he may have liked their ideology, without the support of other terrorists he could only carry out a "lone gunman" style of attack."

Jibberish. By way of example, a "lone gunman" who identifies with HAMAS and on his own perpetrates an act to advance their agenda which he has adopted as his own is a Terrorist.

It's a good thing Christians don't go around constantly killing people at abortion clinics. The same people espousing this "He's not a terorist" bullshit would be the first to cry terrorism when a "lone gunman" on his own went on a killing spree.

"there are families like the one in the above article that are not so stupid as to blame an entire people for the actions of a few"

The "entire people" here is a small faction of Islam that failed to modernize thus emerging as "radical."

You libs are fond of painting with a broad brush claiming that your opponents are attacking all of Islam just like you claim that your opponents are against all immigrants as opposed to just illegal immigrants. Then of course, we have the tried and true "You're a racist!" allegation.

Your tactics are worn out.

- your opponents are attacking all of Islam

Most of them here are.

Or is it still too painful to sit thru that reading comprehension class?

And here I though micro-surgery was pain free.....

Actually the operation was planned and put into operation during Bill and Hill's Administration.

You know, that's the administration that emasculated our intelligence community and military.

#55 | Posted by HopeyChangey at 20

NICE WORK...

I knew I wouldnt have to come back at the corkman.

and puuulease...I cant remember reading any posts here about all of islam

I WILL say this though

its nice that the groups all came out and denounced the shooting

HOWEVER>...until they come out and denounce the teachings that bring this shit out, then it wont really matter.

AND....so you think the comment about 'on obamas watch is silly' but there are still many here who say what you said about bush...

so one is okay and the other isnt??

oh I forgot that libs were 'here'.........lol

I very clearly remember a lot of people saying that 9-11 was Bush's fault because he was the CIC, had received a information on the threat and did nothing, and also failed to connect the dots to keep people safe.

If you apply the same standard to the guy in at Fort Hood.......

what part of the Uniform Code of Military Justice you see as applying to military personnel who are "Muslim radicals"

"That would be Article 104.
#35 | Posted by Redman"

Hardly. Article 104 is the "Aiding the Enemy" part of the UCMJ, the violation of which introduces the possibilty of a death sentence. You have to do a whole hell of a lot more than harbor unpopular thoughts to trigger that one into motion.

First, though, I'd like to see those who get jiggy about Muslims in the military thrash out what they mean by that term, "Muslim radicals." Conceivably, it might run the gamut from a guy who likes to eat bacon in the morning all the way to Osama Bin Laden.

If you apply the same standard to the guy in at Fort Hood.......

#61 | Posted by HulkHogan

who is in charge of Fort Hood? Yes that guy should be held accountable as should everyone right down the chain of command right to his immediate supervisor who was actually most at fault for not recognizing that his employee wash having mental issues.

Speaking of mental issues once again we see the insanity of Religion pushing the mind of it's most zealot adherents right over the edge. When are we going to face the fact that Religion is a form of insanity and start treating those lunatics!

Lieberman is right! We should have ZERO TOLERANCE for religious fanatics! I say we adopt that DON'T ASK DON'T TELL policy for religion! Say one word about your religious beliefs to anyone and you are FIRED (or in treatment)! If it is OK for Gays (who have never slaughtered their coworkers en mass as far as I know) it should be ok for the Religious WACKOS amongst us.

This dude is a terrorist.

the stereotyping has nothing to do with the "terrorist" label.

the stereo typing has to do with calling all muslims terrorists

#46 | Posted by klifferd

Most all folks are not calling all muslims terrorists--most. In fact very few.

This guy was a whacko jihadist--a loner--who appears to have made contact with a dark element of the Islam religion that espouses death to the infidels.

If it is OK for Gays (who have never slaughtered their coworkers en mass as far as I know)

Well OK, except for the few million that died of aids, but we won't go there will we.

Let's stick with the facts folks. So far, all I see is hearsay from ABC news and some no name republican representative from Michigan. The CIA hasn't released any documents yet. It wouldn't be the first time we were misled by the press for the sake of making a buck on a tragedy. There will be lot's more fabricated bullshit before this story is old news.

Obviously the killer was motivated by something. They all are and more often then not it is their inner demons pulling the trigger. If it was terrorism, what's the big mystery? It happens all the time in America. Now the DHS and the right wing extremists can label all such crimes as home grown terrorism. What's in a name anyway?

CNN has been doing a great job finding his manager of the apt complex, the liquor store video, the Christian neighbor (might have been ABC).

----------

I would like to be a fly on the wall to see this jihadists face when they tell him a blonde 5'2 married woman with three kids took him down.

The reports are that he never took photos with women. He refused to be in the photos of fellow women doctors.

Friggin idiot.

Make him better--give him a trial and put him to death.

DC sniper gets put down tomorrow night..

So Doc, you don't think being a Muslim radical includes activities that are aiding the enemy? I think that's what makes one a Muslim radical. Otherwise, what's the point.

If I claimed to be an environmental radical, which I'm definitely not, but did nothing to aid their cause, would I really be an environment radical?

give him a trial and put him to death.

#66 | Posted by MURPHY

No, give him life without parole in a women's prison.

Turns out this guy had hired a lawyer and gone to Military Court in order to get a discharge. This was triggered by his orders to go to Afghanistan. The Court refused his request and he went apeshit.

Previously another trooper's orders were rescinded when he claimed he wouldn't go to Iraq/Afghanistan, because Obama is not our legitimate President (not a natural born citizen).

Its supposed to be an all volunteer military, in order to avoid these life changing problems, but this is enforced in a schizophrenic way. No more so than when Shrub violated the rules.

eddie sounds like one of those brainwashed muslims he's squawking about.

everyone's brainwashed, either by religion or bigotry or blind loyalty for something or other.

#25 | Posted by NerfHerder

Nerf,

Don't you say the same thing about Americans who go to Church?

Hmmmmmm...

Who the he** is AlQaeda?

-Corky needs to get to know a few moderate Muslims to begin to understand how they think and how much Islam has brainwashed even the most moderate

Eddie "thinks" that Muslims are like Republicans, that even the moderates are brainwashed..... but alas, 'tisn't so ..... most Muslims are peaceful theists and only a few are radical extremists.... again, unlike Republicans.

#28 | Posted by Corky

CORKY!!!!

Goddamnit!!! Pay attention!!!!

Geez!

LOL

Most Muslims are peaceful theists. Wrong! Most Muslims, like Christians are not very religious.

However, my point is that if they wanted to change their religion to Buddhist or Baptist, they would be in fear of retribution.

That's why I challenge you to find a person who was once Muslim who has changed their religion to Christianinty. You can't!!! I challenge you to find a Muslim who would tell you honestly that they could easily change their religion to Christianity. You won't be successful.

I can go to any Mosque in my town and ask out loud, Who in here was born into a Christian family and have change to Islam? I would get 5 out of 20 who say they did.

Go to a Church in a Muslim country and ask the same thing? No answer.

Go to a Church in ANY country, you might get one or two out of a 1000 answer you, but they will come to you and admit it when they are sure no one else is listening.

Wait a minute, then what the he** was 911 about?

Then how does Bin Laden fit into all this?

ok, so without alQuaeda, then we better start demanding some answers about this merry-go-round we're riding.

Manchurian Candidate!

Since Al Qaeda is a totally "Fictional" group invented by the CIA then it follows that Nidal Hasan 1. didn't have a single fucking clue and 2. He was basically a CIA Mind Controlled Zombie as in "Manchurian Candidate"!!!

CIA Mind Controlled Zombie as in "Manchurian Candidate"!!!

#76 | Posted by AntiCadillac

HOLY CARP!

Obama Appoints 2 Devout Muslims to Homeland Security Posts. www.ask.com

Doesn't this make everyone feel much safer already?
That should make our Homeland much safer, huh?

Obama and Janet Napolitano appoint Arif Alikhan a Devout Muslim as Assistant Secretary for policy Development Source announcement: Homeland Security Press Room.

The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) is proud to announce that the DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore-in Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim who was born in Damascus, Syria as ADC National Executive Director as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council. www.adc.org

Wasn't it men of the "Devout Muslim Faith" that flew airplanes into the WTC a few years ago? Like
9/11/01
What was obuma thinking?

This announcement was made Aug. 20, 2009

And excuse me, but has anyone ever heard of a new
government official being identified as a Devout Chatholic, or Devout Jew, or a Devout Protestant???

Now we understand why obuma, and his hip pocket News Media are refraining from calling this Jihadist Extremist Muslim, a Terrorist...

How do Homeland Security agents get on strip club detail? Seems like that's where the action is.

Why is it that every time a Muslim goes ballistic, Muslim religious leaders step forward to extol their sacred martyrdom?

-- Nidal Hassan Did the Right Thing --

By Sheikh Anwar alAwlaki

Nidal Hassan is a hero. He is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people. This is a contradiction that many Muslims brush aside and just pretend that it doesn't exist. Any decent Muslim cannot live, understanding properly his duties towards his Creator and his fellow Muslims, and yet serve as a US soldier. The US is leading the war against terrorism which in reality is a war against Islam. Its army is directly invading two Muslim countries and indirectly occupying the rest through its stooges.
Nidal opened fire on soldiers who were on their way to be deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. How can there be any dispute about the virtue of what he has done? In fact the only way a Muslim could Islamically justify serving as a soldier in the US army is if his intention is to follow the footsteps of men like Nidal.
The heroic act of brother Nidal also shows the dilemma of the Muslim American community. Increasingly they are being cornered into taking stances that would either make them betray Islam or betray their nation. Many amongst them are choosing the former. The Muslim organizations in America came out in a pitiful chorus condemning Nidal's operation.
The fact that fighting against the US army is an Islamic duty today cannot be disputed. No scholar with a grain of Islamic knowledge can defy the clear cut proofs that Muslims today have the right -rather the duty- to fight against American tyranny. Nidal has killed soldiers who were about to be deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan in order to kill Muslims. The American Muslims who condemned his actions have committed treason against the Muslim Ummah and have fallen into hypocrisy.

"It's just like all those Christian leaders who come forward to publicly support murder done in the name of Jesus Christ right? Like ... well, come to think of it ... there aren't any."

How fucking stupid are you?

Well, I'm not so stupid that I can't read. So who is the "Christian leader" (Pope, cardinal, bishop, pastor, etc.) who you are referring to in that story?

I want you to try something that I think will illustrate just what a superior intellect you have. I'm going to talk you though it so that you don't get messed up OK?

Now walk over there to the bathroom, turn on the light, stand in front of the mirror and say, "How fucking stupid are you?" three times.

Is it starting to sink in?

How about Pastor Drake of Arizona

"How about Pastor Drake of Arizona"

So now every "pastor" is a Christian Leader? I guess Osama Bin Laden is a Muslim Leader? Is there widespread support and a following among Christians for "Pastor Drake"? How about Osama Bin Laden with respect to Muslims?

Did Pastor Drake come forward and publicly extol murders that were done in the name of Jesus Christ? Which murders?

Hey DANFORTH. Do me a favor and take BRUCEAZ with you OK? He may need some help.

Christian leader" (Pope, cardinal, bishop, pastor, etc

It's just like all those Christian leaders who come forward to publicly support murder done in the name of Jesus Christ right? Like ... well, come to think of it ... there aren't any.

#80 | Posted by HopeyChangey at 2009-11-10 12:50 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
e

Pat Robertson

Repeat of last post -

So now every "pastor" is a Christian Leader? I guess Osama Bin Laden is a Muslim Leader? He leads Muslims. Is there widespread support and a following among Christians for "Pastor Drake"? How about Osama Bin Laden with respect to Muslims?

Did Pastor Drake come forward and publicly extol murders that were done in the name of Jesus Christ?

Which murders?

Look HopeyChangey. Every Religion has Leaders that advocate for the murder of their enemies. It's been that way since Time began. Muslims are no different than Christians in that regard. Neither are better nor worse than the other. The Human condition makes us falable. I am sorry that it's the way it is. I wished like hell I could change it but a las I can not.

Larry

"So now every "pastor" is a Christian Leader? "

How fucking stupid are you?

Any pastor is a Christian Leader. Just like, in your world, every Imam you've never heard of is a Muslim leader.

Larry and Dan:

Go on equating the dangers of radicalized Christianity to those of radicalized Islam. "Neither are better nor worse than the other."

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Go on equating the dangers of radicalized Christianity to those of radicalized Islam. "Neither are better nor worse than the other."

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Posted by HopeyChangey at 2009-11-10 03:10 AM | Reply

Look dude both sides have their bad actors. We condemn Muslims by and large because they have something we as a Nation want. Their Oil and Natural Gas. If they didn't have either we wouldn't give two shits about who they are or how they believe. We are a covetous nation. We want whatever they have that is something we can use and exploit. It will be that way until Time ends or the human race ends it's existance. If Iraq Iran and Afghanistan(Read Caspian Basin) had neither we wouldn't be having this conversation now. Bank on THAT one.

Larry

Oh and the Iranians wouldn't be seeking a Nuclear Weapon either cause We wouldn't be invading their neighbors. Double bank on THAT one as well HopeyChangey.

Larry

political correctness is prevalent in the military. if this much information were available about a non-minority soldier superior officers
would not have had a problem speaking up.

Look HopeyChangey. Every Religion has Leaders that advocate for the murder of their enemies.

More stupid statements from Larry.

Larry, the difference comes from the top. At the top of Christianity is Jesus. He never preached or advocated or hinted that murdering or killing anyone in order to advance Christianity is right in the eyes of the creator.

At the top of Islam is Mohammad. He advocated and practiced the art of conversion to Islam at the point of the sword. He spent his life 'converting' other nations to Islam.

"Oh and the Iranians wouldn't be seeking a Nuclear Weapon either cause We wouldn't be invading their neighbors."

The Iranians have had a secret nuclear program for decades, long before any invasions. Rationalize it and spin it all you want.

everyone's brainwashed, either by religion or bigotry or blind loyalty for something or other. me, i'm 18 and i'm brainwashed by naked women, or at the very least the thought of them, but then again i'm in college and i get plenty of opportunities to succumb to temptation.

#25 | Posted by NerfHerder
------------------------
Yeah that just about says it all. Young Dumb and full of cum. Can't focus beyond "oooh the wind blew and woke something up" attitude you have.

Lonnie

Hey come on guys. It was just some guy who went berserk. (I wonder if he was on anti-depressants.)

Don't make such a big deal about this. You guys are just Muslim haters seeing phantom connections to Islamic extremism.

#31 | Posted by HopeyChangey

-------------------------
I'm sure you believe the liberal bullshit story but when someone snaps there is no planning involved. This piece of shit believed his radical muslim bullshit from the time he was getting his education on the taxpayers dime until he carried out his terror attack.

People who snap don't plan, they go with what they have. They definitely don't go out and buy guns, ammo, clips and make damning statements for the last year. People who snap do so instantaneously. There is no planning so the party story is pure bullshit. There are rumors that the FBI or CIA had knowledge of this and did nothing to prevent this from happening.

So pretty much like Bush and 9/11, the liberal messiah owns this especially after they removed the lone wolf stipulation from the patriot act.

Lonnie

I realize that the right NEEDS this to be called 'terrorism' so they can say "Obama hasn't kept America safe" but why were the rightards so desperate to stomp out any talk of terrorism when a muslim soldier tossed a grenade into the tent of other soldiers just days before the Iraq war began?

I hope the right does run with this and tries to attack the President with it. It will backfire nicely in their faces.

#38 | Posted by COMMONSENSE
------------------------
Are you kidding me? I called that a act of terror too. My son was in that unit and I was fucking furious that muslim kid would do such a thing and I didn't know if my son was in that tent. I was pissed that my son didn't write or call until 2 months later.

Lonnie

This guy has more in common with the VA Tech shooter than the 9/11 hijackers.

Terrorist organizations have political goals and terrorism is the means they use to advance those goals. No matter how decentralized they are, many individuals may have a hand in plotting, rehearsing, and coordinating their attacks. It's a team effort.

To the families of the people who died, the difference may seem insignificant. It's an important distinction to make because the government can deal with terrorist organizations but it is extraordinarily difficult to prevent attacks by a deranged lone gunman.

#48 | Posted by ZombieHunter
-------------------
Really? Did the VA Tech guy yell Allah Ackbar when he was shooting up the joint? Did he go out to extremist websites and post anti-military propaganda up to a year before he carried out his massacre? Did the FBI/CIA write him a pass and ignore him once they investigated him? I'm not seeing any likenesses here. In fact the VA Tech guy shot himself and died at the scene as he should have. Hasan didn't shoot himself the female officer who responded shot him up but Hasan is going to live long enough for us to kill him.

Lonnie

But since they monitored his phone calls without a warrant it would have been wrong to prevent this from happening.

But since they monitored his phone calls without a warrant it would have been wrong to prevent this from happening.

#101 | Posted by bph320
------------------------
What an idiotic statement. If anyone knew this was coming they had a moral obligation to stop it

Lonnie

Quotes from one of limp-dick's peers..

"When you are in the military and you start making comments that are seditious, when you say you believe something other than your oath of office someone needed to say why is this guy saying this stuff ...

...He was a lightning rod. He made his views known and he was very vocal, he had extremely radical jihadist views...

...When you're a military officer you take an oath to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic...

...They should've confronted him our professors, officers but they were too concerned about being politically correct...

...the warning signs were clear to many, not just classmates. Faculty members, including many high-ranking military officers, witnessed firsthand his anti-Americanism...

...recalled Hasan telling his classmates and professors, "I'm a Muslim first and I hold the Shariah, the Islamic Law, before the United States Constitution."...

All other neaderthals spouting this same lunacy should be IMMEDIATELY removed from all DOD, as well as all FEDERAL, STATE, and LOCAL First Responders.

If not, Michael Savage just might be correct when he says that Liberalism is a mental disorder. Because thats exactly what we are if we continue to bury our heads in the sand.

It was treason pure and simple. He can plead insanity if he wants to and then we could put religion on trial too! I can see it now...Does Religion make you insane?

That would be fun.

It will be interesting to see what he is charged with under the UCMJ.

He can plead insanity if he wants to and then we could put religion on trial too! I can see it now...Does Religion make you insane?

That would be fun.

#104 | Posted by donnerboy at 2009-11-10 05:54 PM

Obama only has a mild case...so far. Bush was a certifiable Whacko! After all, God told him personally to attack Iraq.

Political Correctness will get us all killed. Our so-called leaders refuse to acknowlege Truth, therefore they will not act appropriately against real threats. We are screwed.

#103 bender

Did you just quote Michael Savage to back up your whole rant?