You clowns think he's trying to "defeat conservatism in America"? At the polls that really count (those held in November) the "conservatives" (most a disgrace to a once honored political brand) are doing so much self-inflicted damage to themselves that they don't need any assistance to find a slot for them in the ranks of endangered species.

C'mon, guys n' gals, don't go away. Obama needs you like Muhammad Ali needed a speedball in the gym before a bout: for punching practice.

I must have missed the memo, since when was this his goal?

Obama needs you like Muhammad Ali needed a speedball in the gym before a bout: for punching practice.

#1 | Posted by doc_sarvis

The only thing he needs is the Crutch known as the Former President.

Headline writer FAILs.

Be Well.

Since when did he have a goal, other than to get elected?

The only thing he needs is the Crutch known as the Former President.

#3 | Posted by wisgod

The other crutch is the teleprompter.

"I must have missed the memo, since when was this his goal?
#2 | Posted by fresno500 at 2009-10-29 07:48 AM"

Too bad you missed it because it has ALL the important stuff:

- War on Christmas
- President Obama is taking away our guns (and ammo!)
- How to spot a death panel
- Where the next (former) Gov. Palin's book signing will be
- Discounts on teabags
- Anti-brainwash spray for your children
- and MUCH more

Just HOW can you survive without it???

Do you really think those who are fickle enough to change their answer on a poll like this are truly conservative?

More than likely people want to be identified with the political opposition and latch on to the simplest way to do it-describing oneself as the opposite of those in power.

JPW, those people only account for a fraction of the change. If you want to continue to burry your head in the sand, go ahead.

Barack Obama has failed to defeat conservatism in America

Conservatives, on the other hand, are doing a bang up job.

Kanrei, you confuse Conservative with Republican. They are mutually exclusive these days, unfortunately. HINT: NY23.

Obama needs you like Muhammad Ali needed a speedball in the gym before a bout: for punching practice.

#1 | Posted by doc_sarvis at 2009-10-29 07:43 AM

WTF is a "speedball"? Something you used to hit in the 60's when you were frying? How about a speedbag dumb ass....

"Speedball"! Hahahaha. That purse-swingin bitch never stepped foot in a gym.

What a fucking nerd. Go adjust your glasses Louis Skolnick.

A punching bag is a sturdy bag designed to be repeatedly punched, for use in physical exercise or stress relief in order to improve one of three ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Speedball_(boxing)

SpeedBall is what Sarvis got in the boys locker room after the game.

#14...

Another fucking Bert Sugar....

WTF is a "speedball"? Something you used to hit in the 60's when you were frying? How about a speedbag dumb ass....
#12 | Posted by crispee_oc

Crusty, Wussy, and Cher: The Three Amigos of boxing knowledge.

#17...

Christ almighty, are you ever fucking wrong and can admit so? Nobody in the last 30 years calls it a "speedball" outside Europe and maybe Asia. Now maybe back in the 60's you very well may have, seeing as I was still a youngster and you were in your prime. But again, my guess is you were talking out of your ass. As for Larry? He just follows you around like a fucking puppy dog. Hence his attempt to defend your old ass.

"Christ almighty, are you ever fucking wrong and can admit so?"

Keep repeating that to yourself, Palooka, and you just might learn something. If you still think you're write, see what you can go about getting the Google search engine to catch up with your out of date thinking. Quelle loser boy! Bwahahahahaha.

"Crusty, Wussy, and Cher: The Three Amigos of boxing knowledge."

This from the idiot who calls a speedbag a speedball? Then has to search for something showing they are synonymous? To top if off he then googles to figure out who the hell Bert Sugar was? Laughable. Let's look at you ignorant post again, tell us where Ali would be in a "gym" before a bout instead of an arena or stadium. Also tell us where all boxers hit the speedbag for practice before a bout? Are they in the dressing room? Are they practicing single and double handed? It is obvious by your post you don't have a fucking clue and were trying to look like you did.

"Obama needs you like Muhammad Ali needed a speedball in the gym before a bout: for punching practice."

Keep repeating that to yourself, Palooka, and you just might learn something. If you still think you're write, see what you can go about getting the Google search engine to catch up with your out of date thinking. Quelle loser boy! Bwahahahahaha.

I would hope everyone would google "speedball". God only knows how it can help you. Seeing as there are ZERO references to a fucking speedball and speed bag. Which is what you meant.Now if one types in speed bag, lo and behold it comes up. Including pictures. You can't really be this fucking stupid to think you know what you are talking about, can you?

"This from the idiot who calls a speedbag a speedball?"

I'm assuming you're probably okay in the readind department. But your processing and comprehension skills need some serious work.

I didn't have to "search for something showing they are synonymous." I had to search for something so someone as ignorant as you are could see the terms are synomymous.

"To top if off he then googles to figure out who the hell Bert Sugar was?" Wow, you really are a complete dumbass, aren't you? I didn't have to Google Bert Sugar's name, just his pic for purposes of making well-deserved fun of you.

"...tell us where Ali would be in a "gym" before a bout instead of an arena or stadium." During training, you simpleton.

Next time, stick to something you actually know something about, Internet Puss.

I would hope everyone would google "speedball". God only knows how it can help you. Seeing as there are ZERO references to a fucking speedball and speed bag. Which is what you meant.Now if one types in speed bag, lo and behold it comes up. Including pictures. You can't really be this fucking stupid to think you know what you are talking about, can you?

#24 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-10-29 10:51 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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What a fucking liar Crispee

BTW, Angelo or Doc...

You don't hit a speed bag for punching practice. It's called a speed bag to speed up your timing and hand speed as well as eye hand coordination. Not for punching pracice. Fucking dumb ass...

The "former president" is rightly called "the crutch". Ask the thousands of soldiers now using one.

#25 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-10-29 10:54 AM

#26 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-29 10:55 AM

Too fucking funny. Both idiots trying to one up each other. Like I said earlier, outside of the US it may be referred to as a speedball, which I now admit I didn't know. But here it is a speed bag. It doesn't change the fact Doc was talking out of his ass using a speedball or speed bag in his Ali reference.

Laterz

Next time, stick to something you actually know something about, Internet Puss.

#25 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-10-29 10:54 AM

Sorry to disapoint you there old timer, but boxing is something I know about. Which is why I retorted the fact you don't.

"But here it is a speed bag."

Tell me, where is "here" on an internet site? For you, it's probably your parents' basement. But, please, go ahead and assume that when you refer to the use of a word by 5% of the world population -- and not even the entire 5%, since the synonymous term is also used "here" -- the use of another (synonymous) term by the remaining 95% means they don't know what they're talking about.

Don't bother to adjust those blinkers, kid. They're blocking out plenty as it is.

LOL!

"boxing is something I know about"

Based on your demonstration of ignorance here today? Doubtful. But, please, continue to tout your "qualifications," Palooka.

#33

But here it is a speed bag.

Should have been "but there is a speed bag" Doesn't change the fact you were talking out of your ass. Like Ali punching a speedball for practice? Before a bout? Classic.

"Based on your demonstration of ignorance here today? Doubtful. But, please, continue to tout your "qualifications," Palooka."

At least I can say I have stepped into a ring and trained for a couple of decades. Not to mention studied and seen every Ali fight on film. But hey, I will adhere to some old schmuck thinking a speedball is a term used today in the US. LOL

Yeah, you keep pretending you know something about boxing, champ. Bullshit war stories can't be far behind.

... the United States is in essence a conservative nation ...

Which was governed by conservative presidents most of the last 30 years, and in the last eight run into the ground by a conservative president.

The fact that 40 percent of the country identifies as conservative is less important than what the 20-30 percent in the middle think. If they are as moderate to liberal as they appear to be, conservatives will be in the wilderness for a long time.

Doc still doesn't even know the difference between a goose and a gander, LOL. Anything more complex than that is just out of his range completely. Use small words, and pictures whenever possible.

I agree, Crocky: For you, we'll stick to small words and pictures (preferably in color). That way we'll be able to operate within your infantile comfort zone. LOL.

"run into the ground by a conservative president."

Runt into the ground by a REPUBLICAN president. Again, people are confusing conservative and republican. Not the same thing.

" Again, people are confusing conservative and republican. Not the same thing."

That's right. Bush was a conservative hero until he ran the country into the ground and everyone started throwing shoes at him. Then he became a Republican.

That's right. Bush was a conservative hero until he ran the country into the ground and everyone started throwing shoes at him. Then he became a Republican.
#42 | Posted by nullifidian

That wouldn't be so controversial. What they actually say, if you listen, is that he more or less became a Democrat.

Its not a partial disavowal, its a total and complete disavowal.

"Doc still doesn't even know the difference between a goose and a gander, LOL. Anything more complex than that is just out of his range completely. Use small words, and pictures whenever possible..."

He's just a "puling, little whiner"...

Oh, wow! Crocky and Joe Palooka doing some bungling tag team action on one thread! This is nearly as good as a Klown Kar!

"Oh, wow! Crocky and Joe Palooka doing some bungling tag team action on one thread! This is nearly as good as a Klown Kar!"

Mr. Speedball appears upset when someone comments on his lame post trying to use a boxing analogy. Here is a hint Rocky, nobody outside of the UK calls it a "speedball" chump. Now maybe back in 50's or 60's...? Can't say. Maybe it is one of your flashbacks....

Or maybe it's just you remembering your made-up glory days as a bigtime boxer. The DR's own Slapsy Maxie Rosenbloom takes another swing and....miss! Punched out, yet again. The arc of your story. ROTFLMAO

Three hours of Crispee whining and wailing and making a fool of himself is enough. TKO, Crispy, you're o-u-t! Have a nice recovery period, Palooka.

"Three hours of Crispee whining and wailing and making a fool of himself is enough. TKO, Crispy, you're o-u-t! Have a nice recovery period, Palooka."

As opposed to some senile old fart pretending he knew what the fuck he was talking about? I think I feel pretty comfortable with the fact you look like some ignorant clown. Three hours huh? Man, walked the dog, mowed the back, a little breakfast... Have you got off you fat lazy ass? Or is it a three hour epsom salt bath????

Keep yammering about your glory days, Palooka, you silly old gummer. You still got caught making shit up and then trying to whine your way out of it. You're no boxing expert, just an Internet Puss. Try taking another looping swing with your purse the next time you want your sorry ass handed to you on another thread.

Try taking another looping swing with your purse the next time you want your sorry ass handed to you on another thread.
#50 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-10-29 01:17 PM

By you?? Laughable. You still can't acknowledge nobody calls it a speedball. That is handing me my ass? Laughable... What did Matlock lose a case? I am sure he is on another station soon and he will probably win. I'm "puling" for you.

"You're no boxing expert...'

I know enough nobody calls it a speedbag. Pretty much one ups me on you there. Tell us about the days you saw Joe Louis fight.

I know enough nobody calls it a speedbag.

Ouch. Should have been speedball. Took one on the chin there....

Bush was never a Conservative hero to me. I hope the next Republican candidate doesn't qualify or modify conservatism as being "kindler and gentler", "compasinate", etc. We've seen the results of such "conservatism."

"I know enough nobody calls it a speedbag."

After you admitted that they do? Hey, Palooka, try putting a little more effort into getting your story straight. Or maybe it's just short-term memory loss as a result of your pretend glory days in the nonexistent ring you've created in your punchdrunk pea-brain.

No, really, thanks for the laughs. Yet again.

"Should have been speedball."

Same difference, Palooka. You can't even keep your statements straight. It can't be fictional rounds in your nonexistent ring. What happened? You slip on banana peel trying to shake Bert Sugar's toupee?

We've seen the results of such "conservatism."
Posted by member2586

Hey, nobody's perfect. You got your rampant de-regulation. You didn't like that?

De regulation?

Bush, like previous presidents, promoted home ownership at any cost. That is what caused this mess.

After you admitted that they do? Hey, Palooka, try putting a little more effort into getting your story straight...

More senilty setting in Doc? Or is this the alcohol talking? I said nobody in the US, and I said nobody outside of Europe and maybe Asia. Here we call it a speed bag. Write it down so you don't look like the alzheimers is setting in. Any luck on that Matlock show?

Runt into the ground by a REPUBLICAN president. Again, people are confusing conservative and republican. Not the same thing.

Republicans were happy to claim Bush as a conservative in 2000 and happy to do it again in 2004. If you didn't run a primary challenger against him in 2004, you can't claim he's not a conservative now simply because his policies were a disaster.

Bush, like previous presidents, promoted home ownership at any cost. That is what caused this mess.

#58 | Posted by member2586 at 2009-10-29 01:44 PM | Reply | Flag: scapegoating

Home ownership is vital, but it must be a home you can afford. I would rather have an unattached home with a yard, but I couldn't afford it, so I bought a townhouse.

#60 | Posted by rcade at 2009-10-29 01:56 PM |

You know that is such a cop out post. Who could have run against Bush? Better yet, when has an incumbent had any serious challenges from his own party or won the nomination? Clinton? Nope. Bush Sr, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon...

Why does Obama need to defeat an ultimately self-defeating ideology?

You know that is such a cop out post.

The cop out is disowning Bush when conservatives never mounted a serious challenge to his fiscal policies in eight years of office.

Let's fast-forward to 2017. If liberals told you that Obama wasn't a liberal because he left office an unpopular figure, would you buy that hogwash? Particularly if liberals didn't back an alternate candidate in 2012?

JPW, those people only account for a fraction of the change. If you want to continue to burry your head in the sand, go ahead.

Bury my head in the sand for what? Have I denied that conservatism dominates over liberalism? No.

I don't particularly give a shit seeing as the conservative dominance hasn't really gotten us anywhere, has it?

More senilty setting in Doc? Or is this the alcohol talking?
#59 | Posted by crispee_oc

I'm not sure what the source of your problem is, Palooka. Could be dementia. (All those pretend boxing matches?) Could be your booze intake. I'm not an M.D. Perhaps you should see one and get some expert diagnosis and advice. But from where I sit, your prognosis really sucks.

#67...

You fucking insolent old fart. Anyone reading your fucking stupid line about Ali or any boxer punching a speedball for practice before a bout would know you are talking out of your ass. Not only did you ignorantly use "speedball", but the fact you have no clue what is it used for only makes you fucking stupider for even using a boxing analogy. So go get your fucking bottle and drink until you pass out. Tired of dealing with your senile, alzheimer stricken brain.

#65

I am sure you meant 2013 instead of 2017. But anyways, some Liberals right now are unhappy with Obama because he is not Liberals enough for their taste. There were many such stories before Obama distracted everyone with his war on Fox. You do remember that Obama told you to get out of your pijamas and put some pants on and to realize that governing is hard?

"You do remember that Obama told you to get out of your pijamas and put some pants on and to realize that governing is hard?"

Too bad Obama never ran any form of Gov. and could take some of that experience into the WH. Instead he arrogantly thought he was right for this job despite his pathetically slim resume.

Too bad Obama never ran any form of Gov. and could take some of that experience into the WH.

You mean like the former Dumbass-in-Chief or the princess who would save American conservatism? Thanks, but I'll stick with Obama.

68 | Posted by crispee_oc a

Let's just call it "the equipment" so you don't get your wetted-down pantaloons in a wad, okay, Palooka?

When do you think "the equipment" is used? During the bout? Before means "prior to." I didn't say "one hour before" or "three weeks before," I said "before." That's when it's used, moron.

You clearly know even less about boxing than you do about politics, and that's saying a lot about very little.

MEMBER2586 says Runt into the ground by a REPUBLICAN president. Again, people are confusing conservative and republican. Not the same thing.

Rather presumptuous that the people polled and you use the same definitions. From the looks of NY District 23 (24?) that "conservative" 40% are split between Republicans, right wing wackos (Palin's crew), conservatives and those that lean slightly right. Unless you'd like to offer the proposition that the Republicans that backed Bush are now calling themselves "Democrats" or "moderates" there's really little joy for true conservatives in poll's delineation.

Crispee, you win the "Goatman" prize for the day.

The thread is about Obama and conservativism.

Rather than debate the thread, you have picked out a word which you feel is miss used and cried and sputtered and lied (perhaps you misspelled speedball in your google search, but I kinda doubt it) like a man posessed.

You mount a torturously petty arguement and go on like an old lady about a definition.

Previously, this type of attack was pure Goatman BS.

Congrats, Goat, you have an apprentice.

wait until votes start cominng in

krugman says the 'tea parties' are over..
what will he say next wednesday after these first elections...

you KNOW obama has to be REAL worreid as he has completely SHUT DOWN his work at the white house
set to campaign all weekend in new jersey...

I think the conservatives are doing a pretty good job of self-immolation. Since a majority of Americans support abortion in some form or another, as well as health care reform, including a public option, righties assuming anybody who calls themself "conservative" is a shoo-in to vote for whatever rightwing whackjob they run will guarantee themselves of several decades of wandering in the political wilderness. americans may be personally conservative, but mostly laissez-faire when it comes to others.

More than likely people want to be identified with the political opposition and latch on to the simplest way to do it-describing oneself as the opposite of those in power.

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2009-10-29 09:45 AM

#74 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2009-10-30 10:33 AM

Glad you felt the need to defend the old drunk. But then again you have proven yourself to be of "drunks" ilk, so I guess no surprise. The fact you dropped Goats name out of nowhere, pretty much proves my observation. Nice company you keep there Whiskey.

Crispy, you da man playin Goats game and lovin it.

I pulled his name from nowhere?

Your posts sound like you are goin as Goatster for Halloween this year Cocopuff.

68 | Posted by crispee_oc a

Let's just call it "the equipment" so you don't get your wetted-down pantaloons in a wad, okay, Palooka?

When do you think "the equipment" is used? During the bout? Before means "prior to." I didn't say "one hour before" or "three weeks before," I said "before." That's when it's used, moron.

You clearly know even less about boxing than you do about politics, and that's saying a lot about very little.
#72 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-10-30 05:09 AM

You still harping and proving your ignorance to what a speedball or speed bag is used for drunky? Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough?

Why don't you simply got to Chicks, Sportsauthority, Dicks, Sears... any retail place where you live that sells sporting equipment and type speedball in the search box. See what comes up and then let's see if you have the shriveled balls to reveal your findings. As for your ignorant defense of before a bout, I will remind you again Ali nor any other professional "punches" a speed bag before a fight for practice. Now maybe if you understood the "training" methods and use of the speed bag, you never would have written something so incredibly stupid. Much like the other thread today when you forgot your own post and retorted to yourself.

Crispy, you da man playin Goats game and lovin it.

I pulled his name from nowhere?

Your posts sound like you are goin as Goatster for Halloween this year Cocopuff.

#79 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2009-10-30 02:35 PM

Yuour posts sound like something a useless troll would post. Conrats...

Yuour...
Your

#79 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2009-10-30 02:35 PM

Instead of your usual peanut gallery comment, go on line and prove your Matlock loving buddy Doc right. You live in OC, there are many outlets to shop online. By all means do your own search and get back to me. Otherwise shut your mouth. You appear pathetic defending the undefendable.

I went to Amazon, and put in "speedball":

#84...
Good for you sparky. Did you notice all the arts and craft prior to the single link? Now go back and enter speed bag and let us know the results. Had you been paying attention you would have noticed my posts informing the Drunk that in America we call it a spped bag. Not speedball.

spped bag

speed bag

"Good for you sparky. Did you notice all the arts and craft prior to the single link"

Yes, I did. Did you notice your challenge was easily met? Did you notice once it was, you moved the goalposts?

Yes, I did. Did you notice your challenge was easily met? Did you notice once it was, you moved the goalposts?

I noticed I was foolish enough to bother and respond to you twice today. Won't be a third... Go back to the other thread and yank Joe's chain, he seems nice enough to give you the attention you seek. Me? You can simply kiss my white ass, you are not worth spit.

BWAAAAHAHAHAHA. Not that I care about the minutia of yer pissing contest about definitions, but I do get a kick out of you obsessing like a little girl, OC.

So far, Google and Amazon both seem to side with your friend the Doc.

25 of posts on this thread are yours, none of which have shit to do with the topic, and I'm the troll...

Bwaaaahahahahaha. Goatman is a piker compared to you.

"Me? You can simply kiss my white ass, you are not worth spit."

Translation: I put up a challenge, Danforth met in in a matter of minutes, and now I'm totally embarrassed at having my ass handed to me so quickly.

So far, Google and Amazon both seem to side with your friend the Doc.
#89 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2009-10-30 03:07 PM

So as usual you never bothered to look up what I requested in post #83. Laziness? Or are you afraid you will look like a troll much like your buddy danforth, who also was too lazy to meet the challenge. Shocking...

BTW.. Did you know what a "speedball" was in the first place? Would you say Ali or any pro punches it for practice before a bout? Or does that not matter in your defense of the drunk dwarf doc? I would bet you never even bothered to read any of the those posts you counted.

Translation: I put up a challenge, Danforth met in in a matter of minutes, and now I'm totally embarrassed at having my ass handed to me so quickly.
#90 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 03:12 PM

First of all nobody challenged you to anything. Second of all if you are going to infect yourself on this thread, at least take the fucking time to know what the challenge was to begin with. Or like Whiskey I guess those key points are not relevant? Now read this again s l o w l y before you embarrass yourself like the Drunk Dwarf and the Whiskey man.

"Why don't you simply go to Chicks, Sportsauthority, Dicks, Sears... any retail place where you live that sells sporting equipment and type speedball in the search box."

Or

You live in OC, there are many outlets to shop online.

"danforth, who also was too lazy to meet the challenge"

GFY. You're a liar.

#83:
"...go on line and prove your Matlock loving buddy Doc right. You live in OC, there are many outlets to shop online. By all means do your own search and get back to me."
~CrispeeOC

Five minutes later, I posted the results of a search at Amazon, which showed, under the "speedball" search, a punching bag. (#84)

Crispee is just too embarrassed to admit his challenge was met, and met quickly. What a pussy.

"First of all nobody challenged you to anything."

Translation: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

"Second of all if you are going to infect yourself on this thread, at least take the fucking time to know what the challenge was to begin with."

Yeah...to go online and find a punching bag under "speedball".

I did it.

I went to Amazon, and put in "speedball"

Posted by Danforth

Prior to the Internet, you would have stood in front of a mirror.

#95...
Any reason you never bothered to read post #80 or 92? Lazy? Ignorant? Stupid? You insisit on letting yourself be heard on this, have you met the challenge? Should be very easy to prove me wrong danforth. Come on show me where I lied? Show everyone where speedball comes up on those search menus.

You live in OC, there are many outlets to shop online. By all means do your own search and get back to me."
~CrispeeOC

Five minutes later, I posted the results of a search at Amazon, which showed, under the "speedball" search, a punching bag. (#84)

What a fucking moron. Was it that hard for someone who tries to come off as the resident inteelect here and you couldn't figure out a simple sentnece? Notice how I said you live in OC and there are many outlets to shop online? Wouldn't a second grader read that to mean online at stores in OC where you live? Duh!!! Tell me about the rabbits lenny...Duh... But I went to Amazon.... Fucking dumb shit thinks Amazon has retail stores to buy sporting equipment. Classic.

Crispee, you're a moron. You keep pretending no one in the USA refers to it as a speedball, yet when proven wrong again and again, you just move, or narrow, the goalposts.

Here's a punching bag called SpeedballUSA.

"someone who tries to come off as the resident inteelect here "

Ya gotta love the self-retorting retort.

Off to my usual Friday wine tasting.

Yeah...to go online and find a punching bag under "speedball".

I did it.

#95 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 04:24 PM |

Another pathetic act of comprehension. Where did any post mention punching bag? Stupid fuck is as ignorant about punching bags as the drunk dwarf. Yet it doesn't stop him from opening his yap.

"Off to my usual Friday wine tasting"**

Are you wearing the Brioni?

**Picking up a $5.00 Sutter Home White Merlot to drink in the park near my house while watching roller skaters.

"Another pathetic act of comprehension."

Posted by the guy who wants to pretend no one in America calls it a speedball, until he's shown proof.

Whine away.

#99 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 04:34 PM | Reply

Amazon and ebay? What a fucking idiot. Once again danforth thinks he can ignore a simple challenge and think he got ya. Just throw anything against the wall and hope it sticks? Move on danforth, as usual you don't have an honest bone in your body to admit you made up your own rules. Or intentionally palyed stupid to the request.

"Another pathetic act of comprehension."

Posted by the guy who wants to pretend no one in America calls it a speedball, until he's shown proof.

Whine away.

#103 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 04:39 PM |

Of course they do danforth. That's why you provided links to the challenge of posts # 80 and 92. Where are they sparky? Oh yeah that's right you think amazon and ebay are equal to retail entities. Fucking loser can't even follow a simple challenge.

"Nobody in the last 30 years calls it a "speedball" outside Europe and maybe Asia. "
~Crispee, post #20

And he's been getting his ass handed to him, and narrowing the goalposts, ever since.

Amazon (in America)
ebay (In America)

So now, he wants to limit it to retail stores.
In Southern California.
That he picks.

I come here for the comedy.

So now, he wants to limit it to retail stores.
In Southern California.
That he picks.

I come here for the comedy.

#106 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 05:00 PM

Obviously you post looking in the mirror. Now we know you think amazon and ebay are retail outlets you can walk in and buy. As well as thinking Chicks, Sportsauthority, Dicks are only in So Cal. Yeah you really do come here for the comedy. Everyone laughs at you and you don't get paid.

Where are the links to Post# 80 and 92? Thought you had plenty of time to show us all. What gives? Lazy? Stupid? Ignorant? The danforth trifecta.

#108 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-10-30 05:18 PM | Reply

How rude of me... That goes for the other two idiots Drunky and Whiskey as well as the third idiot danforth. Can't wait to see the results of their search. Seeing as it is commonly known as a speedball, they should be putting back in my face any time now.

Here's a punching bag called SpeedballUSA.

itemlistings.ebay.com*S%3F&GUID=a75a63721240a0aad432b1e2ffd37ae6&mt_id=570&query=%7Bquery%7D&fitem=400030063935&kw=%7Bquery%7D&ff4=240251_258351

"Should be very easy to prove me wrong danforth"

It usually is.

#99 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 04:34 PM |

You fucing idiot. Do you even have a clue that we are talking about a speed bag being synonymous with a speedball? Are you that fucking stupid you would embarrass yourself by posting that link? It isn't even close you trolling moron. Yeah, you come here for the comedy??? Fucking classic.

Let me help you genius... Here is what we are arguing about. Pay attention this time you fucking fool....

"Another pathetic act of comprehension."

Posted by the guy who wants to pretend no one in America calls it a speedball, until he's shown proof.
danforth

Says the clueless fuck who doesn't even know what a speed bag is. But he comes here for the comedy...

Says the clueless fuck who doesn't even know what a speed bag is.
#111 | Posted by crispee_oc

Says Crispee "I Coulda Been a Contendah" Palooka who's such an authority on the sweet science that he never heard of a speedball until yesterday. And is such a beyond-fucking-stoopid schmuck that he's still arguing about it. Down for the count, Palook.

Here you go danforth, now you can be up to speed instead of blindly being a fucking idiot thinking you have a clue what the argument has been about.I already provided a picture so hopefully you will either dummy up and stop embarrassing your ignorant self.

Speaking of dumbasses who've crossed over into the ranks of the the ignorami, check it out and you'll learn that "speedball" and "speedbag" are synonymous.
17 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-10-29 10:17 AM

Says Crispee "I Coulda Been a Contendah" Palooka who's such an authority on the sweet science that he never heard of a speedball until yesterday. And is such a beyond-fucking-stoopid schmuck that he's still arguing about it. Down for the count, Palook.

I could have sworn some idiot wrote speedballs and speed bags are synonymous. Let me think, oh yeah that was you... So here are four links you can search and by all meeans let me know what comes up under speedball and speed bag. Should be very easy and no doubt will shut me up on the subject...

Seeing as the Drunk and his idiot buddy danforth are either too lazy or too stupid to admit they were wrong, I have decided to do the search for you. Intersting nothing comes up under "speedball" but everything comes up under "speed bag". Now one would think they being synonymous, both would appear, but it seems they don't carry "speedblls". Gee I wonder why????

Damn. Just went and paid the mortgage and visa and thought that was ample time for the Drunk Dwarf to respond. Oh well, I guess I can start on my meatloaf and come back later for his retort. Hopefully he will be sober by then and show an ounce of class by admitting his ignorance.

and show an ounce of class by admitting his ignorance.
#116 | Posted by crispee_oc Flag: Boneheaded Ignoramus Boxing "Expert" Who Doesn't Know A Speedball Is The Same As A Speedbag - Probably Can't Tell Shit From Shinola

and show an ounce of class by admitting his ignorance.
#116 | Posted by crispee_oc Flag: Boneheaded Ignoramus Boxing "Expert" Who Doesn't Know A Speedball Is The Same As A Speedbag - Probably Can't Tell Shit From Shinola

#118 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-10-30 06:43 PM

Then why are are speedballs not found in those four major sports outlets?? HMMM? Hell I did all the work for your old lazy ass. Why don't they come up in a search I linked? Come on dwarf. What gives? Who should I believe? Some old drunk or my eyes when I read the links pasted? Prove your worth old man and show everyone I am wrong. The links are right there for you. What are you afraid of? Prove your shriveled balls are still hanging.

#120...

Wow Larry. Amazon and a UK site. Yep you proved the Drunks claim they are synonymous. Now if only one could find them on a major RETAIL outlet or online at said entities. What about that champ? Did you notice post #115 has the search links attached? Or are you embarrassed enough?

"Says the clueless fuck who doesn't even know what a speed bag is."

I never made that claim. You, however, claimed no one in America refers to it as a speedball. Until you were shown multiple proofs that some did.

Then you narrowed the parameters, ultimately to ONLY retail stores, and ONLY in Southern California.

#20 "Nobody in the last 30 years calls it a "speedball" outside Europe and maybe Asia. "

That statement has been soundly proven wrong. Backpedal, tapdance, or move the goalposts all you want.

#122..

Look at that, danforth comes back and spews more BS. Hey sparky did you figure out your link was NOT the bag in question? You know the one from ebay? I provided the correct picture in case you feel like showing more of your ignorance. Ala post #122. Maybe post #15 will give you a fucking clue.

"show everyone I am wrong"

It's on Amazon. So, is Amazon an American site, or not? Is the store in Florida in America, or not?

C'mon, dumbshit, You claimed "Nobody in the last 30 years calls it a "speedball" outside Europe and maybe Asia."

Are you finally willing to concede that was bullshit?

"Hey sparky did you figure out your link was NOT the bag in question? "

Hey, moron, did you figure out Amazon is in America, or not?

"Says the clueless fuck who doesn't even know what a speed bag is."

I never made that claim. You, however, claimed no one in America refers to it as a speedball. Until you were shown multiple proofs that some did.

#124...
Get a fucking clue what the argument is about before opening your ignorant mouth. Again.

"Let me help you genius... Here is what we are arguing about. Pay attention this time you fucking fool...."
~Crispee

What a dunderheaded moron. It looks just like my initial link to a speedball on Amazon:

"Get a fucking clue what the argument is about before opening your ignorant mouth."

I read your claim in #20.

Are you still making it, or are you retracting it?

"Hey sparky did you figure out your link was NOT the bag in question? "

Hey, moron, did you figure out Amazon is in America, or not?

#125 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 07:36 PM

Did you figure out #110? You know when you trolled in the middle and defended the Drunk Dwarf who said speedball and speed bag are synonymous??? BTW.. I think said Drunk figured it out and decided to shut his fucking mouth and hopes nobody sees what a fool he has been. Maybe you should heed his silence.

What a dunderheaded moron. It looks just like my initial link to a speedball on Amazon:

"Did you figure out #110? "

Yes. It looks just like the one in my "speedball" Amazon link.

"Nobody in the last 30 years calls it a "speedball" outside Europe and maybe Asia."

You've been proven wrong.

"Which is why you also pasted this link?"

Okay, ignore that second link.

The first one proved you wrong. That was plenty.

Which is why you also pasted this link?"

Okay, ignore that second link.

The first one proved you wrong. That was plenty.

Oh ignore the link showing you are fucking troll who got caught? The first one didn't prove shit, other than you trolled in the middle and chose to cherry pick posts. It was spelled out a few times including #110, which you still haven't figured out proves my original post to the Drunk. You know where he said speedball and speed bag are synonymous???? Funny those leading establishments don't see it that way.

"Oh ignore the link showing you are fucking troll who got caught?"

WTF are you talking about? I proved you wrong. Just because you're now suggesting only the second image was a "speed ball" doesn't mean you were right. You were wrong.

"The first one didn't prove shit,"

Of course it did. It proved your #20 post was incorrect.

"Funny those leading establishments don't see it that way."

But that wasn't your claim. Why are you moving the goalposts? You claimed "Nobody in the last 30 years calls it a "speedball" outside Europe and maybe Asia."

You were wrong, period.

Done having anything to do with you danforth until the next time you come out to SoCal and meet me. After that I will gladly listen and repsond to any posts you direct to me. Until then, don't even waste your time here expecting a reply.
#92 | POSTED BY CRISPEE_OC AT 2009-10-14 10:16 PM

Once a liar, always a liar.

#135 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 08:00 PM

Didn't the fact you ignorantly pasted the double end bag pretty much prove how fucking stupid you were? That anything before or after you post is irrelevant? You should be embarrassed enough to dummy up like the Dwarf. Maybe you like being shown a fool like a masochist to pain. Go find another thread to poison. You have been rendered useless on this one.

If they were synonymous like the Drunk Dwarf said, why does amazon have all these arts and crafts and one single link when you type in speedball, where as a speed bag in the amazon search shows hundreds of bags only? Shouldn't that be some sort of clue? Even for you? I know #110 wasn't enough, but maybe your own link???

And hey, fuckhead, put quotes around what other people say, or put them in italics, or do something to separate them from what you say. I don't want you using my words to mislead someone into thinking you actually had a coherent thought.

Done having anything to do with you danforth until the next time you come out to SoCal and meet me. After that I will gladly listen and repsond to any posts you direct to me. Until then, don't even waste your time here expecting a reply.
#92 | POSTED BY CRISPEE_OC AT 2009-10-14 10:16 PM

Once a liar, always a liar.

#136 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 08:04 PM

So when can I expect you? Can't wait to shake your hand. Hope you can handle a strong grip.

" That anything before or after you post is irrelevant?"

Too funny. You won't address #20 directly, or my Amazon link directly.

Lie and then misdirect; that's your M.O.

"So when can I expect you?"

Who knows? Yet you claimed you were done having anything to do with me until then.

Just another lie you can't duck?

"Just because you're now suggesting only the second image was a "speed ball" doesn't mean you were right. You were wrong."

You pasted a completely different bag you fucking tool. How am I suggesting anything? You pasted it dumb ass.

Too funny. You won't address #20 directly, or my Amazon link directly.

Lie and then misdirect; that's your M.O.

#140 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 08:09 PM

Says the expert who doesn't know the difference between a double end bag and a speed bag. But you come here for the comedy, ours that is.

You got to love schmucks like danforth, he takes questions for someone else and injects his own ridiculous spin so he can become involved. Must be some sort of attention thing.

"Says the expert who doesn't know the difference between a double end bag and a speed bag."

I never pretended I was an expert. You, however, did.

And got your nose rubbed in your ignorance. VERY funny, especially since you're too dumb to just admit it, once, and move on. Instead, you get to be embarrassed again, and again, and again.

"Nobody in the last 30 years calls it a "speedball" outside Europe and maybe Asia."

Proven wrong, multiple times, and won't even address that fact. Comedy Gold!

"Nobody in the last 30 years calls it a "speedball" outside Europe and maybe Asia."

Of course. Which is why Larry linked a UK site and asian site? Not to mention you finding a single link amongst multiple arts and crafts at amazon, when hundreds are available if you type in the proper term. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Yeah I got my ass handed to me. LOL

"Of course. Which is why Larry linked a UK site and asian site? "

Still won't directly address the Amazon (in America) link, and the fact it alone proved your stupid statement wrong? What a chickenshit putz.

" Not to mention you finding a single link"

Which proved you wrong. You claimed "Nobody". if you need to look up the definition of the word you used, go ahead.

"Yeah I got my ass handed to me."

Yeah...you did. You either don't know it (ignorant), or won't, at long last, admit it (pathetic).

As my parting gift for the evening, I'll let you pick: ignorant or pathetic?

I come here for the comedy.

#106 | Posted by Danforth

How do you reconcile Comedy with being an ass?
How many posts in how many threads do you need to make before we give you the nit-picking woman of the day award?

But danforth proved they are the same thing by typing in speedball at amazon as opposed to typing in speed bag.

SPEEDBALL
1 Speedball Fabric Screenprinting Starter Set

2 Speedball Textbook for Pen and Brush Lettering

3 BLOCK PRINTING INK STARTER KIT by

4 Electronic Arcade Speedball

5 Linoleum Cutter, Assorted Pack (SBA4131) Category: School Supplies

6 Speedball Textbook for Pen & Brush Lettering by

How many posts in how many threads do you need to make before we give you the nit-picking woman of the day award?

#148 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-30 08:27 PM

I think Joe summed it up earlier today...

Fuck off, Danforth. You are the most intentionally ignorant person on earth.

#69 | Posted by JOE at 2009-10-30 12:26 PM

"How many posts in how many threads do you need to make before we give you the nit-picking woman of the day award?"

Feel free to weigh in, Wisgod. Read #20, and tell us all if it's true, or false.

"Fuck off, Danforth. You are the most intentionally ignorant person on earth."

Lil Joe always does that when cornered. He proved he had a different set of standards for others than him.

I guess I bring out the worst in stupid people.

Please do wisgod. Maybe someone else pointing out danforths desperate attempt to shield his superior ignorance will sink in.

I guess I bring out the worst in stupid people.

#152 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 08:34 P

Finally admitting you post looking in the mirror?

Feel free to weigh in, Wisgod. Read #20, and tell us all if it's true, or false.

#151 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 08:32 PM |

Maybe you can also point out no leading sports entities have "speedball" in their search menus, but all do list speed bags. Seeing as danforth thinks speedball and speed bag are synonymous one would think the ones who sell them list it that way.

Seeing as danforth thinks speedball and speed bag are synonymous "

Holy shit!!! Are you crazy fuckers still debating that!?! What is it about the Drudge Retort that makes people want to argue endlessly over how many angels can fit on a pin or how many grains of rice in a pound?

"Seeing as danforth thinks speedball and speed bag are synonymous"

I never made that claim. And now lying to pretend I did, is nothing but desperation.

#156...

When the resident trolls like drunk and danforth open their ignorant yaps, it is hard to resist. Sadly neither have figured out how stupid they look on this thread.

how many grains of rice in a pound?

How many?

Wanna fight about it?

When the resident trolls like drunk and danforth open their ignorant yaps, it is hard to resist. Sadly neither have figured out how stupid they look on this thread.

#158 | Posted by crispee_oc

You all look stupid.

"Seeing as danforth thinks speedball and speed bag are synonymous"

I never made that claim. And now lying to pretend I did, is nothing but desperation.

#157 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-30 08:52 PM

Funny I could have sworn you linked a picure from amazon that looked a lot like a speed bag under the speeball search? I mean that has been your argument right? That they are the both the same? Or were you just being willfully ignorant as Joe would say???

You all look stupid.

#160 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-10-30 08:58 PM

I may look childish by keeping it going, the only ones who looked stupid were the Drunk, Larry Whiskey and danforth....

#160...
Will accept your observation and move on.

Obama is doing one helluva job against liberalism--the mental disorder...

#164...
I does seem like the libs here are more mental now that Obama was in office as opposed to when Bush was in the WH...

"I mean that has been your argument right? "

No, idiot. You claimed "nobody". I proved you wrong. Simple as that.

you don't have a fucking clue
#23 | Posted by crispee_oc

give you a fucking clue.
#123 | Posted by crispee_oc

Get a fucking clue what the argument is about before opening your ignorant mouth.
#127 | Posted by crispee_oc

So writes Crispee, a punchdrunk Palooka badly in need of (at least) a clue.

Here's what Crispee Palooka's been arguing about since Thursday, October 29 at 10:07 a.m. on a thread titled "Barack Obama Has Failed to Defeat Conservatism in America" --

"C'mon, guys n' gals, don't go away. Obama needs you like Muhammad Ali needed a speedball in the gym before a bout: for punching practice.
#1 | Posted by doc_sarvis"

Yup, that's it. The whole sheebang. The source of Crispee Palooka's existential angst.

The problem? It turns out that Palook, who claims considerable experience in the world of boxing and knowledge both broad and deep about "the sweet science" -- (they're the same thing, Crispee) -- is (and this came as something of a surprise in one so steeped in matters pugilistic) ignorant of the fact that the terms "speedball" and "speedbag" refer to the same piece of equipment. Like the punchdrunk Palooka he is, Crispee let his ignorance rule his actions, jumped on this and seized upon it because it was obviously all he had. He ran with it, stumbled, fell, looked foolish and kept flailing away.

Yup, that's what he's been posting about since Thursday. Some of us have attempted to set him straight -- I know, I know, it's a hopeless exercise -- but to no avail. Crispee's like a broken-down old mutt who finds an old stick, mistakes it for a bone, doesn't know any better and gums it to death, ad infinitum. When people grow weary of the game -- I suspect it's a bit like bear-baiting: curious initially and then just more of the same -- Crispee proclaims victory and does his poor immitation of a mazurka performed by a Morris Dancer.

Before closing the book on this latest display of Palook's behavior I thought I'd insert the posts quoted above in here for anyone who, joining this thread, soon grows bored with Palook's marathon deflection sessions and/or finds it several klicks beyond ridiculous.

SPECIAL NOTE FOR CRISPEE PALOOKA: BEFORE YOU GET YOUR KNICKERS IN A TWIST AND HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR DEPENDS -- YES, AGAIN -- THE TERM "KLICK" USED IN THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE REFERS TO "KILOMETERS" OR "KILOMETRES" (THEY ARE THE SAME THING). "KLICK" CAN ALSO BE RENDERED "KLIK" (THEY ARE THE SAME THING) OR "KM" (WHICH IS, LIKEWISE, THE SAME THING). AND, PLEASE, IN FUTURE? TRY TO REMEMBER THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN IT'S WRONG, DUMBASS.

Final note to Minnal Effort Joe Blackstone and Crispee Palooka: Yes, I do know that "And, please, in future?" (see above) is not a complete sentence which is not necessarily the same thing, strictly speaking, as an incomplete sentence although under certain circumstances it may very well be.

DOC-
I hadn't thought of the term Palooka in many years. haha

Ya bum ya...

Yous gotta say it wit a Brooklyn accent, though.

Don't need to defeat conservatism, just need them to become rationally realistic.

Oohrah -

Woulda loved to've heard Slapsy Maxie Rosenblum sputter it, though I'll bet Yogi Berra could give the word some nice resonation.

#167...

Of course you certainly are innocent on all counts. Right Drunky? Anyone else other than your pompous, senile broken down old man, and I wouldn't even have bothered. But the fact you have some stick up your ass here made it easy to point out your incredible ignorance and proof ala the multiple posts trying to cover your pathetic ass. Now here we are on Saturday and as usual you continue the thread, either out of spite or the fact you looked like a complete moron and still can't find one store in America that would agree they are the same. I listed multiple outlets, inlcluding the links and lo and behold NONE have what you deem as synonymous. That is the facts you fucking cretin. Anyone other than the other the stooges danforth and Larry know the truth. One link would have shut me up hours ago. Did you provide it? Did I miss it? The answer is no and as ususal your frail ego can't handle the fact someone called out your ignorance, much like you everday on Drudge. It is quite odd with the multiple links I provided, that you have yet to retort on any showing you were wrong. Why is that drunky? What are you afraid of? This would have gone away long ago had you simply manned up. Instead we get the same spitting insults, which is obvious you were deflecting from your incredible stupidity and ignorance. That is the bottom line Drunky, hell I thought if you ever sobered up it would hit you. Guess you are drunk 24-7.

Crispee's like a broken-down old mutt who finds an old stick, mistakes it for a bone, doesn't know any better and gums it to death, ad infinitum.

Once again the drunk show his senility. I believe you were the old bastard claiming to remember Johnson as POTUS. That would pretty much put you in the geriatrics category. Now I know it is not fair to pick on an old, broken down man who's been rendered obsolete and is forced to live the rest of his days on a site like this, but the fact you are such a complete asshole everyday here makes it hard to ignore and point out what a pathetic SOB you are. So knowing you need to take baths and wear depends and are a chronic alcoholic should garner sympathy, but your insolent tongue here makes it almost impossible.

Bottom line is if you can prove post # 115 as wrong, I will be happy to not post here and only be a visitor. Let's see if your shriveled balls will prompt you do the same. Old man up drunky, balls or bags are in your court.

Two more hints, Palook (and the last for this thread, I'm afraid; I just dropped in for a couple of laughs at your expense):

1. "Bottom line is if you can prove post # 115 as wrong,..." Catch yourself on. Nobody -- and I mean nobody but you gives a damn what you did or didn't say in Post #115.

2. And your ageism rants? A sign of crippling immaturity.

Bottom line, Crispee? You're really just a pathetic palooka.

You just can't make this shit up, can you? Oh, sorry, I forgot Crispee Palooka: You did.

ROTFLMAO!

#174...

Still running form thr truth drunky? You think by coming back and then runnung away changes anyones mind that you were fucking clueless? The only reason you can't address post #115 is because it MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A FUCKING FOOL. No matter who looks at or takes the time to open those links all know. Of course I offered to lave if you could prove them wrong, seems like if you had any worth, you would. Why is that drunky? What are you afraid of? The truth will make you look stupid from your first ignorant post to the last? Be a fucking man and prove me wrong. This should be easy enough according to your expertise. Why are you so afraid? I know you are old and frail, but this doesn't take an ounce of strength to click and type. Come on drunky, here is your chance to say you removed a poster by your actions not your foolish words. Otherwise shut your senile old ass on the subject.

1. "Bottom line is if you can prove post # 115 as wrong,..." Catch yourself on. Nobody -- and I mean nobody but you gives a damn what you did or didn't say in Post #115.

It would remove me from posting here Drunky. Do you have the balls to make the same offer? Or would you rather be seen as some gutless wonder who ran way with his tail between his legs? Not that anyone thinks otherwise.

"It would remove me from posting here....Do you have the balls to make the same offer?"

It's not a matter of "balls" in your case, Crispee Palooka, more like just another one of your sixth-grade punk tantrums. (On the internet, for chrissakes!?!?!?)

Besides, why on earth would I want to see you removed from posting here? Admittedly, as a source of amusement you're a bit too stupid to be able to perform with any sense of intentional irony or subtlety, and far too emotionally immature to engage in anything other than pie-in-the-face and fall-on-your-ass slapstick. Your basic flawed zircon in the pawnbroker's window; no more, no less. But, that said, still worth the occasional guffaw.

B"esides, why on earth would I want to see you removed from posting here? Admittedly, as a source of amusement you're a bit too stupid to be able to perform with any sense of intentional irony or subtlety..."
#177 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-11-01 07:02 AM | Reply

Uhh because the links provided prove how incredibly stupid you are and answering them would put more egg on your wrinkled face?

Must really piss you off to be punked by someone like me then. First you have no clue what the equipment was, then you had to google Bert Sugar and hope it gave you some traction instead of highlighting your ignorance? Laughable. Yet you continue to keep this thread alive for all to see and prove your worth? You should have simply dummied up and accepted the observation. Instead your fragile ego is cracked because of someone having the nerve to give you a dose of your own medicine, and it sent your depends up your ass and hence a three day running.

I think this sums up the entire argument in your own words...

"Speedball is synonymous with speed bag." Of course one can't find a speedball in any retail outlet in America that sells sporting equipment, but according to you it is because YOU know more than they do. BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
!!!!!

"Must really piss you off to be punked by someone like me...BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
!!!!!"

Punked? By a punk like you, Crispee Palooka? Not on my worst day and certainly not on your best.

Here's what all the bullshit you've spread out here boils down to, Palook: "Speedball is synonymous with speed bag." Of course one can't find a speedball in any retail outlet in America that sells sporting equipment..."

I've no idea whether you can purchase a speedball (speed ball) "in any retail outlet in America," never claimed you could, and don't care. Nor do I care that your ignorance about boxing caused you to misstate the facts and you inability face up to that exposes you as a fool.

You're punched out, punchdrunk, and out on your feet. In other words, Crispee Palooka, you're a loser.

"I've no idea whether you can purchase a speedball (speed ball) "in any retail outlet in America," never claimed you could, and don't care."

So how can you say speedball and speed bag are synonymous? Wouldn't that mean they are the same? Your own words there Drnky, why are you running from them? One would think you have the intellect and sources to prove your OWN WORDS. Obviously you haven't and can't and have put your ass in a corner you have beend despertly trying to get out of. Face it, you have been punked and proven a fool. Move on Drunky, this argument is over and you lost. Your best recourse is to stifle yourself. The fact that nobody has or can back you up should be proof of your ignorance.

beend despertly

Been desperately...

Palook, see your care giver a.s.a.p. and ask for a review of your medications. Especially those designed to reduce the effects of your obsessive compulsive disorder. You may be in need of increased dosages.