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Wednesday, October 28, 2009

Wwith an unfavorable opinion at 40 percent and a favorable opinion at 42 percent in a Gallup poll, Vice President Biden is less popular than the previous two vice presidents, Dick Cheney and Al Gore, during their first years in office.

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"Gallup: Biden Lower Than Cheney, Gore"

Wow. Talk about damning with faint praise....

Oh you can't believe Rasmussen, he's just a Rtard mouthpiece.... Oh.. Gallup... oops... my bad.

Was this before or after Cheney pissed away our treasury on a bullshit war in Iraq?

RCADE made a typo.

I love Joe Biden-- what a comedian.

You must have thought Bush sending troops to their death in Iraq and letting Osama Bin Laden get away in Tora Bora was a real knee-slapper, Catsup.

#6--- I've read some of your posts and the only rational (or lack thereof) parlance about them is your consistent Assumption(al) diatribe.

Yeah, but you have to admit. Slo Joe is much more entertaining.

"Slo Joe would be a fun guy to have a beer with--of which I wouldn't be surprised if he has imbibed a few.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Not.

Washboard, you mean you actually had a beer with Slo Joe?

"Slo Joe would be a fun guy to have a beer with--of which I wouldn't be surprised if he has imbibed a few.

#9 | Posted by matsop at 2009-10-28 09:24 PM

Yeah, Joe would be a beer and chips guy.

Cheney would be a Scotch whisky neat guy.

Gore would be a Perrier with a floease chaser guy.

Joe's popularity is lower than other VPs during their first year in office during a depression.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

What I wonder is why would anyone have wanted to have been elected President of Vice President after the Bush collapse of the economy.
Come on, it's a no win situation.
I hope they can turn it around but it ain't going to be easy. I have to wonder if it is even possible and the very fact that I, a consumer, wonder that, makes it harder.

"Gore would be a Perrier with a floease chaser guy."

You take a look at Gore lately, he didn't get that way drinking water.

#12--- Big Al would probably want it on ice-- global warming

What TF did Joe do?

#14-- Your right that's why I prefaced Al with "Big"- I don't think gymnasium is in his current vocabulary.

"What TF did Joe do?"

You missed the salient phrase:

"...in their first year in office"

By the last year, folks had pegged Cheney. If JB drops below THAT number, it'll be news. Until then, it's cherry picking.

BTW...did you know that Obama has a lower approval rating than Bush...at this point six weeks after September 11th...in their first year...?

#13-- Danni, you've shifted your thoughts a little from previous posts when you were much more upbeat about the economy and the fact that Americans have been in tough situations before and we should be able to overcome.. I think the last 2 sentences of your post approach reality.

"Slo Joe would be a fun guy to have a beer with--of which I wouldn't be surprised if he has imbibed a few.

#9 | Posted by matsop

Joe doesn't drink alcohol.

Murph, how do you know that?

"BTW...did you know that Obama has a lower approval rating than Bush...at this point six weeks after September 11th...in their first year...?"

I guess that would maybe explain it. I'm not much of an Obama supporter, but there's never been a moment in the last 9 months where I've had a lower opinion of the current admin than I'd had of the last. I might be more disappointed in the current administration, but thats because I expect more out of them.

Murph, how do you know that?
#21 | Posted by matsop

Its pretty common knowledge. Comes from a family of alcoholics.
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So what did Biden eat?? Double Negative equals a positive.

#23--- Either it's kept him from drinking or he's a recovering alcoholic himself?

whats the senate at again? like 11% or something? thats where the problems are. TERM LIMITS. no more career politicians!

"#6--- I've read some of your posts and the only rational (or lack thereof) parlance about them is your consistent Assumption(al) diatribe.

#7 | Posted by matsop "

I've read some of your posts, and your about as rational as Goatfucker. Go piss up a rope.

Yawn

everybody loves a clown

The Vice President is doing a good job. The Vice-President is supposed to have a cloak of invisibility unless something bad happens to the President. I am embarrassed to be posting on this item, but picking on VP Joe Biden for doing his job correctly is lame.

coming soon a remake of the three stooges staring al,joe and dick.yuk,yuk,yuk.

#28----Lettucepray, your response to my post was quite slow--how long did it take you to find a dictionary or doesn't one exist in your hovel? It's great you're starting to use one since it's a good compensation for the obvious lack of betz cells &/or synapsis within your cranium.

okay, what joker gave me a newsworthy flag for #22.

?

What happened last night?

It is kind unfair to compare the two becauce Cheney burrowed underground for the last quarter of his first year and Biden is still out there getting his full jackass on......

What happened last night?
#36 | Posted by wisgod

I don't know. I guess I tried to thread the needle.

Is Biden raking in millions in war profits from the dirty little war he started by lying and misinforming Americans, giving his giant global war corporation no bid contracts?

No?

Did Gore?

No?

Then stfu about Biden, eh?

Here's another gallup (gullible) poll that will continue to have far reaching ramifications on US elections for years to come as by the year 2042, whites will no longer be in the majority in the USA.

>>>>
The results show clearly that the Republican Party today is first and foremost a political entity dominated by white Americans. Eighty-nine percent of rank-and-file Republicans are non-Hispanic whites, leaving just 5% who are Hispanic (of any race), 2% who are black, and 4% of other races.

www.gallup.com

Then stfu about Biden, eh?

#39 | Posted by woke

When did you purchase this site, asspipe?

Obama chose Biden because AIPAC demanded that selection in return for their support. Mr. Delaware is also a favorite of our seedy banking sector, pushing the bankruptcy law through, which turned US bankruptcy Law upside down by providing tens of thousands of Federal Prosecutors who work for the banks for free.

but picking on VP Joe Biden for doing his job correctly is lame.

#31 | Posted by john47

It could be argued that Bush did his job correctly as well. Besides, it isn't like no one knows anything about Biden. Many have had an opinion of him long before he reached office.

no worries namecaller.....

keep on denigrating biden...it makes you look so intelligent

Who woke the woke. It's pretty obvious that a night's sleep has not obviated the insipid, vapid, inconsistent postings of his that so many of us have found to be charming and hilarious.

It could be argued that Bush did his job correctly as well.

#43 | POSTED BY EVERLONG AT 2009-10-29 09:12 AM

Ok, I'll bite.

Let's see it.....

Here, let me help you....

Let us begin by counting the war dead together....our own and those of the countries he invaded/occupied based on lies and misinformation for the profits of a few......then we can move on to the 10 trillion national debt on the day Obama took office.

matsop

Do ANY of you rwrs here on DR have any content/substance that can actually argue cogently, or do all of you only have the ability to insult, namecall, personally attack other posters?

Actually, Biden is probably one of the most capable guys in this administration. I know, it's not saying much...

Liberty is right. Biden didn't promise to close Gitmo, post all legislation for 5 days, kick Lobbyists out of the Whitehouse, immediately remove our troops from Iraq,make Iran comply with non-proliferation protocols by September or air healthcare negotiations and discussion on C-SPAN.

Neither did Obama.

He said in 16 months he would remove our troops in IRAQ from combat duty and place a smaller contingent in a support role. He's already turned the security of iraqnam over to iraqis.

Gitmo is in process.

HB 1826 allows public funding of elections to help get lobbyist money out of elections. (call your reps to support)

Did not force a healthcare vote immediately, taking flak from his own party.

And he has no authority over Iran, anymore than any other potus did.

wissing into the wind again are ye?

how's that taste?

You are making a fool out of yourself, Joke. He made those promises while campaigning. But being a fool is standard operating procedure for a goof like you.

Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Have a nice day wissy

immediately remove our troops from Iraq
#49 | POSTED BY WISGOD AT 2009-10-29 09:27 AM

From Obama's campaign page:

Barack Obama will responsibly end the war in Iraq:
Immediately upon taking office, Obama will give his Secretary of Defense and military commanders a new mission in Iraq: successfully ending the war. The removal of our troops will be responsible and phased.
Encourage political accommodation:
Obama and Biden will press Iraq's leaders to take responsibility for their future and to substantially spend their oil revenues on their own reconstruction.
Increase stability in Iraq and the region:
Obama and Biden will launch an aggressive diplomatic effort to reach a comprehensive compact on the stability of Iraq and the region. They also will address Iraq's refugee crisis.

www.barackobama.com

The little baby Jesus doesn't like it when you lie buddy.

For those saying Obama should just blindly send more troops and that he has not listened to his generals:

Obama, in the Philadelphia debate:

MR. GIBSON: And Senator Obama, your campaign manager, David Plouffe, said, when he is this is talking about you when he is elected president, we will be out of Iraq in 16 months at the most; there should be no confusion about that. So you'd give the same rock-hard pledge, that no matter what the military commanders said, you would give the order: Bring them home.

SENATOR OBAMA: Because the commander in chief sets the mission, Charlie. That's not the role of the generals. And one of the things that's been interesting about the president's approach lately has been to say, well, I'm just taking cues from General Petraeus.

Well, the president sets the mission. The general and our troops carry out that mission. And unfortunately we have had a bad mission, set by our civilian leadership, which our military has performed brilliantly. But it is time for us to set a strategy that is going to make the American people safer. Now, I will always listen to our commanders on the ground with respect to tactics. Once I've given them a new mission, that we are going to proceed deliberately in an orderly fashion out of Iraq and we are going to have our combat troops out, we will not have permanent bases there, once I've provided that mission, if they come to me and want to adjust tactics, then I will certainly take their recommendations into consideration; but ultimately the buck stops with me as the commander in chief.

campaignspot.nationalreview.co
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Obama seeks study on local leaders for troop decision
Afghan provinces to be analyzed Details should help president determine need
By Scott Wilson and Greg Jaffe
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, October 29, 2009; 8:23 AM
President Obama has asked senior officials for a province-by-province analysis of Afghanistan to determine which regions are being managed effectively by local leaders and which require international help, information that his advisers say will guide his decision on how many additional U.S. troops to send to the battle.

Obama made the request in a meeting Monday with Vice President Biden and a small group of senior advisers helping him decide whether to expand the war. The detail he is now seeking also reflects the administration's turn toward Afghanistan's provincial governors, tribal leaders and local militias as potentially more effective partners in the effort than a historically weak central government that is confronting questions of legitimacy after the flawed Aug. 20 presidential election.

"This is obviously a complicated security environment in Afghanistan, and the president wants the clearest possible understanding of what the challenges are to our forces and what is required to meet that challenge," said a senior administration official who has participated in the Afghanistan policy review and spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss it. "Any successful and sustainable strategy must clearly align the resources we provide with the goals we are trying to achieve."

Administration officials say that Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and national security adviser James L. Jones, a retired four-star general, support Obama's request for a more detailed status report on each province that could identify potential U.S. allies among Afghanistan's local leaders, some with less-than-sterling human rights records.

in part

www.washingtonpost.com

Gosh, an intelligent approach instead of a knee jerk reactionary right wing all war all the time approach.

How refreshing.

#47----- Woke, you're right, I apologize for the "denigration" of you and your posts, but, man lighten up and show a little levity-- your posts show a bitterness, anger, rigidity of thought and partisanship (you ought to run for congress). I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't have hypertension (high blood pressure). By the way is "wissy" another word for fool.

your posts show a bitterness, anger, rigidity of thought and partisanship

By the way is "wissy" another word for fool.

#56 | POSTED BY MATSOP AT 2009-10-29 10:52 AM |

First of all, thank you kindly for the apology. No other poster on here has had the courage and morality to do so.

As for "wissy", no, it's a name for someone pissing into the wind and a play on wisgod, who does so daily here. I do so enjoy debunking his lies and information as much as he enjoys pretending that namecalling/insults are valid arguments.

As for my demeanor: tell you what....join up or have your kid join up and (hopefully) then return from an unnecessary invasion/occupation for the profit of a few, where they see more than any human should see of carnage and social upheaval.

Then perhaps you'll begin to understand that i don't find humor in those things others do.

All due respect.

"There must be some way out of here," said the joker to the thief,
"There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief.
Businessmen, they drink my wine, plowmen dig my earth,
None of them along the line know what any of it is worth."
"No reason to get excited," the thief, he kindly spoke,

"There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke.

But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate,
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."
All along the watchtower, princes kept the view
While all the women came and went, barefoot servants, too.
Outside in the distance a wildcat did growl,
Two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl.

Copyright 1968; renewed 1996 Dwarf Music

bob dylan

When he gets to 17%, let me know.

And remember, Biden didn't have to let al queda murder 3000 Americans and then pretend to give a damn to get his numbers, unlike some face shooting Veeps I could mention.
Bush was at what 90% at this point? How'd that turn out?

Reality and the right.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I'm not...

Isn't Biden the genius that said something along the lines of - The White House is not the place for on the job training - about our Obammy boy?
And then, didn't he jump all over the chance to be VP?

Then there was this little gem - "Stand up, Chuck, let 'em see ya." to Missouri state Sen. Chuck Graham, who is in a wheelchair.

Who can forget spelling class - "...and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S, jobs."

Guy's a douche bag and deserves every dumb ass award he can get.

#58 | Posted by northguy3

Reality to the left... man can you really be this stoopid? " didn't have to let al queda murder 3000 Americans"

Let AQ murder 3000 Americans? Go back to your history books and read. Your boy's Carter & Clinton own that little "mishap". With a statement like that you belong in the same class with Danni.

Let AQ murder 3000 Americans? Go back to your history books and read. Your boy's Carter & Clinton own that little "mishap".

It was your boy Chimpy that ignored the PDB stating that OBL was set to the strike in the US.

It is good that President Obama met an incoming plane at Dover AFB. Seeing the flag-draped boxes of dead American cops and soldiers as the real costs of a war first-hand has to be a sobering experience. When I was in the Air Force in 1969, I was detailed as a military funeral honor guard for a freshly-killed young soldier from Vietnam. I won't be forgetting that experience.

Copyright 1968; renewed 1996 Dwarf Music

bob dylan

#57 | Posted by woke at 2009-10-29 11:03 AM
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See woke's been smoking dope and having flashbacks to the 60's again.....
.

Just pointing out the idiocy of those who think "life is just a joke" 2008......as they count their war profits.....did you do that calculation yet.....?? How much have you made per us vet kia?

Cheneys first year was bolstered by the 911 attack---which he may have helped along. He certainly tries to stop any investigation into it. The poll is worthless.

Yeah, the only "polls" worth anything are exit polls and even those prove wrong if fraud occurs, cough-cough....

The poll that actually counts was last November....and now all those rwrs who claimed polls didn't mean anything last year are now trying desperately to use them to make themselves feel better....

As if....

As for "wissy", no, it's a name for someone pissing into the wind and a play on wisgod, who does so daily here.
Posted by woke

You poor old fool. I'm glad the name bothers you. And the only pissing I do is on idiots like you. Say Ah...

And the only pissing I do is on idiots like you. Say Ah...

#66 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-29 06:31 PM | Reply | Flag

The only pissing you do is on this country and everything it stands for---proven with your every hate filled post from a small hate filled mind.

The only pissing you do is on this country and everything it stands for---proven with your every hate filled post from a small hate filled mind.

#67 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Says the dick that wants his own. Do it, and get the fuck out of mine.

Do it, and get the fuck out of mine.

#68 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-29 07:25 PM | Reply | Flag

That's my line moron---you hate this country--it will never be yours--it never has been yours. You are just too fucking stupid to realise it. You need your own country filled with Freedom and Peace hating freaks just like yourself---the millions who voted in Bush, and who glorify war and the deaths of Americans for nothing.

You poor old fool. I'm glad the name bothers you. And the only pissing I do is on idiots like you. Say Ah...

#66 | POSTED BY WISGOD AT 2009-10-29 06:31 PM

bother me?

wissing into the wind daily, you must love how that tastes eh?

Great comeback, old man.

Taste that?

It's neocon "trickle down" economics......

No, it's a former Military Coward making a fool out of himself in his final years.

A pos chickenhawk who couldn't serve anyone but his own pathetic self denigrating a POW?

Can you sink any lower genius?

Whooops, thought you were talking about mccain

but now i realize you were talking about lilaWol....

no problem

A pos chickenhawk who couldn't serve anyone but his own pathetic self denigrating a POW?

Can you sink any lower genius?

#74 | Posted by woke

What do you know about me? That I did or didn't serve? Because I don't find a need to brag about it? Or because Patton slapped you in the puss in the infirmary?

All Joe has to do is follow O'loudmouth around like a little sheep~~~~piece of cake, a child could do it, O'loudmouth says jump, and ol Joe says, how high...

'There can be NO doubt' Cheney benefited from 9/11

In the end, once people caught onto his skulduggery, even he could beat Bush's record low approval rating.

What do you know about me? That I did or didn't serve? Because I don't find a need to brag about it? Or because Patton slapped you in the puss in the infirmary?
#76 | POSTED BY WISGOD AT 2009-10-29 08:51 PM

Uh, in my experience, war veterans don't post SHIT like this:

No, it's a former Military Coward making a fool out of himself in his final years.
#73 | POSTED BY WISGOD AT 2009-10-29 08:35 PM

Of course, there were those smear liar repugs.....who placed politics above honor or country....

Do tell sonny.....were you "in the shit"?

DOS
MOS
duty locations...

None of your business, Private Pyle.

That's what I thought, just another big mouth, teabagger, repug, chickenhawk......that just loves war, as long as they don't have to be the one fighting.....pretending to be a war vet......a wannabee

enjoy your weekend wisbang

You too, Gomer. Say hey to Goober.

Hey, at least Gomer served, eh?

Instead of cheering on vet deaths from the sidelines based on failed foreign policies....

GOP=politics over country

Later on, war vet imposter

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