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Wednesday, October 28, 2009

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger sent a letter directed to "Members of the California State Assembly" that appeared to have a subtle but pointed message hidden within the text. The first letter of seven lines spells "Fuck You."

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Yes, yes he did.

That's freakin' hilarious. Someone on his staff just got a raise.

GOD I HOPE SO

You can tell by the writing/word usage he did this on purpose.

Good for him.

HAHA!

He may be a another joke of a Governor, but at least the guy has a politically incorrect sense of humor. Bobby Jindal takes the cake, a tribute to rational Democracy in complete collapse.


That had to be on purpose.

Way to go arnie.

I have done that here on the DR and nobody notices. nanc and murphy should learn to read my posts vertically sometimes.

This seems like to big a coincidence to actually be just a coincidence. On the one hand, it is kind of funny. On the other hand, our political discourse is already coarse enough without this type needless wordplay.

Fuck ahnold too.

Does he get a dump?

Or is this a hate crime since he is foreign?

Holy Shit! That is fucking hilarious! That wasn't from the Onion?

That is going on the wall!

Impressive Arnold!

For a Republican he is alright... sometimes. Due to his wife I bet.

Behind every great man...

Given that Republican governor Arnie is the one most responsible for Cali's budget problems, the legislators ought to send him a big "fuck you and thanks for nothing" in return.

Behind every great man...

...is a lurking Donnerboy---hoping for a miracle.

Poor, Poor Arnold. Typical emasculated republican.

Given that Republican governor Arnie is the one most responsible for Cali's budget problems...

actually that is NOT a given.

Given that Republican governor Arnie is the one most responsible for Cali's budget problems,

#13 | Posted by nullifidian

Please explain to me how the govenator spends money when the legislators hold the purse strings.

"Please explain to me how the govenator spends money when the legislators hold the purse strings."

One of Ahnold's first deeds was to borrow billions more. Ahhnie's idea.

Arnold created the debt when he repealed the car tax in California. The cost of that lost revenue equals our debt.

Arnold is an idiot...

Let's see. A Republican is in charge for 8 years and wrecks the government budget. Sound familiar?

The sponsor of the bill was Tom Ammiano, a Democratic member of the State Assembly who recently heckled Schwarzenegger when the governor made a surprise drop-in at a San Francisco Democratic Party fundraiser.

As previously reported by ABC-7 in San Francisco, Ammiano shouted "you lie!" to Schwarzenegger during the event at the Fairmont Hotel, before adding: "kiss my gay ass" as he walked out.

blogs.abcnews.com

Serves the he-bitch Ammiano right. Don't fuck with the Governator!

Seriously, does anyone REALLY believe California's problems are the result of conservative principles? Seriously? Arnold has been about as conservative as Snowe, hardly the poster child of the RNC. But I do love the letter. Good going, Arnold.


California is not in as bad of shape as you might think.

www.time.com


"Seriously, does anyone REALLY believe California's problems are the result of conservative principles?"

Conservative "principles" seem to be slashing taxes regardless of the consequences, and then borrowing after they hit the iceberg.

Exactly the kind of thing that I've
always wanted to see a politician
try to do!

Maybe the California legislature will
yet a clue and propose something serious.

Seriously, I doubt it. It took someone
how long to come up with this?
Or perhaps it was just already to
roll, just waiting for the right moment
to be released. If it annoys
some, it is well worth it!

"Let's see. A Republican is in charge for 8 years and wrecks the government budget. Sound familiar?"

It's a bit more complicated, and as a Californian, you should know that. California has the petition system, which has led to a wild array of unintended consequenses. Prop 13 froze (for all intents and purposes) some property taxes, limiting the state's income, especially for the school systems. Yet another law requires a supermajority to pass any tax increases. Schwarzenegger got elected, in part, by promising to repeal a $30 billion car tax/fee (iirc), and Arnie's first fiscal move was to borrow additional billions (reasoning rates were at/near historical lows). But when it came time to pay for it, the Dems were all for raising taxes (which has been one of the driving reasons for some exodus), but a minority of Republicans balked. As recent history has shown, Robert's Rules of Order allows a determined minority bloc to halt everything.

Also, as a former Californian, I was amazed how quickly the state could piss away money; for example, did we really need streets swept every week? Was all the beautification -- everywhere -- really needed?

A Republican is in charge for 8 years and wrecks the government budget. Sound familiar?

In all fairness, Arnold got elected because the budget was already FUBAR. People elected him for the same reason republicans want Sarah Palin...media appeal. Trying to find a competent republican these days is like trying to find a gold pocket watch at a flea market for 2 bucks.

At any rate, California never was too too good at picking actors for governors. Does the name Ronald Reagan ring a bell? The man who taught us that the the best birth control was an aspirin clamped between the knees. Remember, like Arnold, he rode into power with a promise of fiscal reform too and that was after he helped push through Proposition 13, which got him elected, but later was his headache, just like Arnold's; limited tax revenues for already passed legislation.

From the article:

But the krazy-Kalifornia criticism is likely to continue regardless of the facts on the ground not just because of envy, but because of ideology as well. The collapse of the Golden State provides an irresistible parable for hippie-lefty vegan politics, the failure of a quasi-Scandinavian progressive experiment symbolized by MoveOn.org, Daily Kos and the Sierra Club; yoga, crystals and medical marijuana; "Hollywood values" and "San Francisco values." California has a tradition of activist government, and public support for the University of California, federal energy labs and the military-aerospace-industrial complex played a huge role in creating Silicon Valley, San Diego's biotech cluster and the state's other private-sector centers of innovation. So it's been a juicy target for right-wingers who consider Schwarzenegger a squishy sellout. If a low-carbon, Big Government, change-obsessed state with high taxes on the wealthy, draconian environmental regulations, a porous border and the nation's most vibrant labor movement were imploding, what would that say about the age of Obama?

"[L]imited tax revenues for already passed legislation." I like that concept. When will libs (and many repubs) realize that they shouldn't pass legislation unless they have a way of paying for the spending? Of course the new health care reform will be different, won't it?

continued:

Then again, the home state of Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan has been a conservative trendsetter as well, leading the backlash against taxes, affirmative action and illegal aliens and enacting the first three-strikes law against career criminals. Its economy is much closer than the nation's to a true model of free-enterprise capitalism, in which government sets rules and enforces a level playing field but declines to pick winners. And what could be more Californian than the conservative megapastor Rick Warren urging his multimedia flock to make a fresh start with a forgiving God? "A clean slate is possible!" he wrote in his best seller God's Power to Change Your Life. "It's a lot like my son's Etch A Sketch."

In any case, California is not imploding, which ought to be heartening to Americans regardless of ideology or geography. Because America is essentially the land of the Etch A Sketch, and California is America but more so, beckoning dreamers who want to cook Korean tacos or convert fuel tanks into hot tubs. It's progressive more in the literal than in the political sense of the word. And it's where America is going: a greener, more advanced and more global economy; a browner and more metropolitan population; and, yes, some staggering debts and other governance problems that need to be resolved. It's expensive and crowded because people still want to be there! and it's recovering from an economic earthquake. But it continues to have a powerful claim on the future. "In the depths of the breakdown, you can see the next narrative," says Mark Muro of the Brookings Institution's metropolitan-policy program. "It's California. The next economy is already in place there, and it's amazing."

www.time.com

"It's a bit more complicated, and as a Californian, you should know that. "

I know, Danforth. Just trying to piss off Republicans.

"I know, Danforth. Just trying to piss off Republicans."

In that case...

...carry on.

California cannabis advocates continue to roll...

Calif. Assembly Weighs Legalizing Marijuana, 1st Time Since 1913

SACRAMENTO On Wednesday, the California Assembly Public Safety Committee will hold a historic hearing on the implications of taxing and regulating marijuana similarly to alcoholic beverages.

The informational hearing marks the first time California's legislature has considered ending marijuana prohibition since California first banned marijuana in 1913.

When will libs (and many repubs) realize that they shouldn't pass legislation unless they have a way of paying for the spending? Of course the new health care reform will be different, won't it?

That's not a fair argument. People have to pay for health care whether it is through a government health care plan or not. We are all paying for the people who can't afford it already and it cost a heck of a lot more because the uninsured are using the emergency rooms for a clinic. Health care for all is a common sense issue.

"Assembly Bill 1176, legislation which would have expanded the financing powers of the Port of San Francisco" is nothing but another spend what you don't have bill that will take tax money away from the state coffers that is already in deep Kim Chee as we say in Hawaii.


Sure is silly
Under all the bullshit
Can you see the deflection
Kinda cute, really

My, my
Everthing is fucked up.

Mission Accomplished!

Arnold doesn't have to say "Fuck You" to anyone in California because he already...did!!!!

Arnold created the debt when he repealed the car tax in California. The cost of that lost revenue equals our debt.
Arnold is an idiot...

#19 | POSTED BY PROLIX247 AT 2009-10-28 05:06 PM | REPLY | FLAG

hmmmm. Given that California ADDED net employees this year, and is the state's biggest employer, I think there's something other than the car tax wrong with the state.

And I re-watched Pumping Iron last night!
I honestly think Arnold would have either spelled it "fug" or made a letter with "I'll be back" as the hidden message. Too much ego in the man to resist it.

California's biggest problem was created by Rethuglican Wilson by deregulating electrical generation. What a fucking disaster, double Utah's rates.

Seriously, does anyone REALLY believe California's problems are the result of conservative principles?

Well, there was the time Enron bilked California for billions and forced PG&E into bankruptcy.

And the overcrowded prison system, resulting from "Three Strikes."

So yes, some of the problems are the result of "conservative" principles commonly known as "deregulation" and "tough on crime."

Nailed it.

And the overcrowded prison system, resulting from "Three Strikes." - snoofer

The prison system is designed currently to hold 83,000. Number of second and third strike prisoners is 43,000. The total prison population is 170,000. Even without "threestrikes" the prison population would still be overcrowded by 50,000.

""deregulation" - snoofer

The government deregulated the price of energy from suppliers, but providers still could not charge the consumer the new rate, the expectation was that energy prices from suppliers would drop, that is why PGE went bankrupt. Rates went up for a number of reasons, but the government had kept consumer rates artifically low for years, even after "deregulation". Its like freeing up the price of a tree for lumber, but then saying a 2x4 price must stay the same. It was bound to fail.

"Fuck You" spelled vertically: A+, extremely well done! Epic win.

The rest of his record leaves quite a bit to be desired, however.

A talking head on NPR looked at frequency of letter usage and order and determined the odds of this letter being a mistake at 5.5 in 1 Trillion. That means I literally have more real chances of winning the lottery which I have never played than for that letter to have happened by accident.

Much more clever than mailing a dead fish.

So yes, some of the problems are the result of "conservative" principles commonly known as "deregulation" and "tough on crime."

I don't know of any conservative principle that calls for not having adequate prison space to house all of the people you send to jail. That's called stupidity. And the fact that some conservatives are stupid doesn't mean the principles they claim to follow (but don't) aren't correct.

#46 | Posted by joe at 2009-10-28 09:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

No jury is going to buy that, counselor. "Conservatives", in office, fuck everything up. Afterwards, people like you claim they weren't "conservatives" in the first place.

Where is the source of this memo? No outside confirmation. I think this is a smear attack. They'll apologize for it later after it has circled the net 1000 times.

The government deregulated the price of energy from suppliers, but providers still could not charge the consumer the new rate, the expectation was that energy prices from suppliers would drop, that is why PGE went bankrupt. Rates went up for a number of reasons

Translation: The central tenet of conservative deregulation philosophy, that the private sector is more efficient, turned out to be completely wrong.

Look, conservative policies failed. Those policies took Enron and Arthur Andersen and tens of thousands of people's life savings down with them.

Perhaps "failed" is too strong a term. If, for example, you sold Enron at the peak, and didn't live in California, perhaps it was a stunning success.

Which is the real root of the conservative drive to deregulate and privatize -- to move wealth from the public coffers and concentrate it in the hands of the wealthy. No matter if it leads to rolling blackouts, destroying companies, and scuttling the retirement dreams of thousands.

The prison system is designed currently to hold 83,000. Number of second and third strike prisoners is 43,000. The total prison population is 170,000. Even without "threestrikes" the prison population would still be overcrowded by 50,000.

So overcrowding is only half due to Three Strikes. What percentage can we attribute to the conservative War on Drugs? Quick estimate: The other half.

"Conservatives", in office, fuck everything up. Afterwards, people like you claim they weren't "conservatives" in the first place.

Exactly. They're as clueless about reality as Marxists who point out that Lenin and Stalin weren't really Marxists, strictly speaking.

Watch them wriggle like worms on the hook.

I'm not saying there haven't been failures of liberalism in California. But to pretend conservative ideology has done no wrong is doctrinaire ignorance.

The 'War on Drugs' is an utter failure.

Other countries that have stopped that nonsense and taken common sense approaches have low, low crime rates.

Arnold, I agree.

When will the lib finger-pointers get that tax cuts are not the problem, over spending is.

California's budget has grown by 80% in ten years. So by all means, FUCK THEM!

California regulated themselves into bankruptcy. One environmental regulation after another.

They have 3rd generation farmers standing in line at food banks all to "save the planet." We are now feeding those that once fed the world.

So childish on Ahhnold's part. And hilarious. Bravo!

Style points fer Arnie.

Farkin' hilarious.

Be Well.


GOD I HOPE SO

#3 | Posted by Fenderwa41


I hope so as well...

if only the voters in california would do the same thing only in the polling booth

Hilarious.. I read the note doing an Arnold voice...

Given that Republican governor Arnie is the one most responsible for Cali's budget problems, the legislators ought to send him a big "fuck you and thanks for nothing" in return.

#13 | Posted by nullifidian

explain.. because the governor is typically the legislature's scapegoat since they typically don't CRAFT legislation..only EXECUTE it..

take a civics class dude.

Arnold is too liberal for my taste.

But much like Bill Clinton, I like him.

Rates went up for a number of reasons

Principally because Arnie's biggest Buddy and backer Kenron Lay stuck it to the Californians after masterminding a power shortages to jack up prices. Deregulation is a wonderful thing.

As long as you can scam with it.

Did he say it? Yes.
Was it funny? YES!
Was it also outrageous for The Governator to stoop to that level? YES!


Given that Republican governor Arnie is the one most responsible for Cali's budget problems, the legislators ought to send him a big "fuck you and thanks for nothing" in return.


#13 | Posted by nullifidian


yeah

what legio said...

actually...the rest of the country really doesnt know how all the legs work around the country..some have some different ways of doing things.
but anyone who has read anything or even watched any show at all should know that dems run that state and even with that...arnold is not a conservative.

Arnie's biggest Buddy and backer Kenron Lay stuck it to the Californians

would still like to know more about the liberal economic expert...krugman...what his advise during all of this was

its too bad the left is shielding all of this from the rest of us

California regulated themselves into bankruptcy. One environmental regulation after another.

And the alternative?

Arnold didn't want to go down as the man who killed the goose that laid the golden egg so he played along and signed the bills. If left to the capitalist that already mowed down half the state, there wouldn't be a tree left. If it wasn't for the ACLU, there wouldn't be any environmental regulations at all. Too bad you can't get the meat heads on the right to understand the need for basic conservation.

Irony- recalling Grey Davis and replacing him with someone who did the same things, only more grand.

Arnie's biggest Buddy and backer Kenron Lay stuck it to the Californians ...

And you voted for him anyway? Figures.

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