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Wednesday, October 28, 2009

The House Dem leadership has conducted its preliminary whip count and has tallied up less than 200 likely Yes votes in support of a health care reform bill with a robust public option, well short of the 218 needed for passage, according to an internal whip count document I've obtained.

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They can't even get this smelly turd through The House, let alone the Senate. Just because a few idiots keep repeating over and over that this will pass does NOT make it so. Prepare the hankys for the usual ever-damp suspects.

Just the facts, ma'm.

www.seattlepi.com

But even though the Death Panel is In, I wouldn't want to contradict a well known expert on, "smelly turds".

But even though the Death Panel is In, I wouldn't want to contradict a well known expert on, "smelly turds".

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2009-10-28 11:47 AM | Reply | Flag: WOLF CRYING SPAMMER

Pay back is a bitch, eh, Chumpel?

You're such a little child, Corky. What will your spin be, in order to avoid looking like a TOTAL tool, when this all goes down in flames? Much like you and Second Grade, this shall not pass, no matter how much you spam, or how many times you post stupid threads from other fawning lackeys saying that it will.

Wait until Reid starts buying votes with pork. Corky will tell us it was money well spent.

-Wait until Reid starts buying votes with pork.

Yeah, Congress has been a Pork Free Zone up until now.....

You're such a little child, Kookie. What will your spin be, in order to avoid looking like a TOTAL tool, when this all passes? Much like you and your lobotomy, this shall pass, no matter how much you spam, or how many times you post stupid threads from other fawning lackeys saying that it won't.

There, fixed that for ya, Spam Boy.

What's really funny is that the floor debates are just starting in the Congress on health care reform, but these 20 percenter, dime a dozen Rwingers "know" what is going to happen there.

Funny if not so profoundly asinine.

"Pay back is a bitch, eh, Chumpel?"

I guess when all you have to look forward to each day is some "payback" Corkles, it is, yes.

So, you win. You are the master of the domain so we accept the payback you inflict upon us all.

Feel better big fella? LOL.

The Chumpels little girlfriend spams a thread I put up this morning, so he feels it his macho duty to defend the Princess Cookedfish.

That's really very sweet, don't 'cha know.

What's really funny is that the floor debates are just starting in the Congress on health care reform, but these 20 percenter, dime a dozen Rwingers "know" what is going to happen there.

Funny if not so profoundly asinine.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2009-10-28 12:28 PM | Reply

What is profoundly asinine is any fool blaming repubs on a thread about dems not having the votes.

But instead of reading the article, you put up cartoons?

Much like you and your lobotomy, this shall pass,

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2009-10-28 12:22 PM

BWAHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
!

"Only leadership and the White House can get this done," this progressive says. The time would appear to be now

-you put up cartoons?

I didn't want you to feel like we were talking down to you again.

Besides, if you have missed the great American tradition of op-ed cartoons, then you are a poorer soul for it.

"Until I've seen everything, I'm not for anything," moderate Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., told home-state reporters in a conference call Wednesday. He said he was undecided on Reid's bill, and would prefer an approach where states could opt into a government insurance plan, instead of being permitted to opt out, as Reid would allow.

But, "I'm keeping an open mind," Nelson said. "Doing nothing is not one of the things that we can consider
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House leaders were aiming to bring those negotiations to a close Wednesday, and were making plans to unveil their bill Thursday morning, according to a Democratic aide. The aide, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the plans were not yet public, cautioned that the timing could change. House leaders were scheduled to meet Wednesday afternoon to finalize their plans.

There are nine weeks left in the year to deliver a bill to Obama's desk.

Intense days and nights lie ahead, said Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla. Senators who don't like the bill will find themselves the focus of a "prayer session," said Nelson. "They will pray that the retribution of God doesn't come down on them," he joked.

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Despite the obstacles, senior Democrats cast Reid's draft legislation as a turning point. Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, said there is now a "sense of inevitability ... that, yes, we're going to pass health care reform."

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-you put up cartoons?

I didn't want you to feel like we were talking down to you again.

Besides, if you have missed the great American tradition of op-ed cartoons, then you are a poorer soul for it.

Isn't it odd you couldn't refute the fact you never read the article? Talk about being a poorer soul... The fact you used a poltical cartoon itself was the reason for my comment. Especially when it is about your fucking beloved dems lack of any leadership. Which I will remind you is the thread.

Here you go Corky. Let's see how you can spin this to reflect rpublicans or leadership in the House?

Clyburn told the assembled members at the meeting that the leadership does not have the votes to pass the robust public option, according to a House progressive familiar with the meeting. That sparked aggressive pushback from liberals, who argued that leadership and the White House should be working harder to win over the remaining votes the bill needs.

The document shows that 47 House Dems are committed No votes, and eight are Leaning No, for a total of 55. That means of 256 House Dems, just under 200 remain, and a dozen of those are listed as undecided. The bill needs 218 votes for passage.

House progressives argue that the document should light a fire under Dem leaders. One House progressive tells me he's convinced that most of the undecideds, and a number of the No votes, can be won over with the right mix of pressure and incentives which only the House leadership and the White House can provide.

"Only leadership and the White House can get this done," this progressive says. The time would appear to be now

"Only leadership and the White House can get this done," this progressive says.
And if the W.H. doesn't, they'll just blame republicans and call it a day.

#19...

Sad but true. Look at the fools here who do the exact same thing? Not enough bandwidth to list them all.

I can't wait to see Mr. Offensive cry when we do get something passed. I hope his taxes go up 300%

It seems that some people in here are trying to say that there will be NO HC reform passed? If that is your stance, make it clear.

There will be HC reform passed. What it looks like I have no idea, but it will pass. Who wants to put their money where their keyboard is?

Ok, Jackasses comment saved to be served with crow later.

Anyone else?

My bad.......reading things that aren't there.

There will be HC reform passed. What it looks like I have no idea, but it will pass. Who wants to put their money where their keyboard is?
#22 | Posted by Manypaths

There will be some kind of change, but I'm not sure that it will qualify as "reform".

Where do you draw the line in the sand to determine if what we get amounts to true reform?

They'll pass something, but my fear is that it won't be much more than a justifiable reason for legislators to claim that they stood their ground.

"They'll pass something, but my fear is that it won't be much more than a justifiable reason for legislators to claim that they stood their ground."

If it is anything like the TARP legislation, I can see Insurance Execs getting big bonuses. Of course they will funnel some of them back to the likes of Schumer, Baucus, Rangel....

Rush Limbaugh is dancing on the air right now. Quick turn on the TV.

"Up or Down Vote"

Sincerely

the pre 2006 "principle" of the "right"

House Health Bill To Be Unveiled, Dems Making Final Preparations

WASHINGTON House Democrats reached agreement Wednesday on key elements of a health care bill that would vastly alter America's medical landscape, requiring virtually universal sign-ups and offering a new government-run insurance option for millions.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was planning a formal announcement Thursday morning, contingent on the outcome of a meeting of House leaders Wednesday afternoon, according to lawmakers and aides. Officials said the legislation could be up for a vote on the House floor next week.

The rollout would cap months of arduous negotiations to bridge differences between liberal and moderate Democrats and blend health care overhaul bills passed by three separate committees over the summer. The developments in the House came as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., tried to round up support among moderate Democrats for his bill, which includes a modified government insurance option that states could opt out of.

The final product in the House, reflecting many of President Barack Obama's priorities, includes new requirements for employers to offer insurance to their workers or face penalties, fines on Americans who don't purchase coverage and subsidies to help lower-income people do so. Insurance companies would face new prohibitions against charging much more to older people or denying coverage to people with health conditions.

The price tag, topping $1 trillion over 10 years, would be paid for by taxing high-income people and cutting some $500 billion in payments to Medicare providers. The legislation would extend health coverage to around 95 percent of Americans.

"I'm pretty confident that we've got the right pieces in place," said Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., chairman of the Education and Labor Committee, one of the three panels involved in writing the bill. "We can quibble over parts of it, but the fact is when you're taking a 60-year-old system that grew up in a rather haphazard fashion and you're trying to bring some coherence to it, these are sort of the things you have to do at the beginning of that process."

Plenty of work remains to be done before a bill could land on Obama's desk and there's still no guarantee that Congress can complete the legislation before year's end, as the president wants. If Obama does sign a health overhaul bill, he will have bucked decades of failed attempts by past administrations, most recently by former President Bill Clinton in the 1990s.

House leaders want to begin debate on their bill next week, with the aim of finishing before Veteran's Day, Nov. 11. The Senate is aiming to start debate sometime in the next several weeks

www.huffingtonpost.com

Red - Up or down vote is what the Dems should be doing for something this important to them, coming from a right winger. Would you rather cobble together 60 votes for a watered down health bill or get 51 votes for single payer?

Actually, couldn't they get 50 votes and have Lightnin Joe Biden be the tie breaker?

Why don't the Dems prefer this type of legislating for their landmark issue?

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