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ESPN college football broadcaster Bob Griese has been suspended one week for a remark he made about NASCAR driver Juan Pablo Montoya. During the Minnesota-Ohio State game Saturday, after fellow broadcaster Chris Spielman asked where Montoya was, Griese joked that he was "out having a taco."

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A day late and an 89 cent taco short.

Have You seen the new Black Taco from TacoBell. If that doesn't make one sick. Why a black taco??

Tuesday, October 27, 2009

Bob Griese commits hate crime?????
During Saturday's broadcast, ESPN ran a graphic listing the top five drivers in NASCAR's Chase for the Sprint Cup. Fellow analyst Chris Spielman asked about the whereabouts of Montoya, who is Colombian. Griese replied that he was ``out having a taco

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Posted by The_Chapel at 06:51 AM | 34 COMMENTS | permalink

"Why a black taco??"

So as not to be considered racist and TO be inclusive.

Larry, did you see the sides that come with the black taco?

What is wrong with haveing a Taco? I love tacos. I put 5 or 6 corn tortillas between two plates in the micro for about 1 min., lay some cut up beef on each, some salsa, lettuce etc. and mmm mmm good.
It's great for leftovers. And NO, I am not Hispanic.

Ummmmmmm nope sure didn't The Chapel

We are seeing the death of free speech under the disguise of "hate speech" ( I thought the CONSTITUTION said that congress cannot make a law that infringes on free speech) and political correctness.....so we don't hurt anyones "Feelings".

Sad...very Very Sad.

Watermelon slice and chittlin gravy.

This should be treated as a hate crime.

--The 'Progressive' Left

The "black taco" at Taco Bell is disgusting - my son brought me one the other day - tastes like it has something like 1000 island dressing in it - trust me - it's NO GOOD!

We are seeing the death of free speech under the disguise of "hate speech" ( I thought the CONSTITUTION said that congress cannot make a law that infringes on free speech) and political correctness.....so we don't hurt anyones "Feelings".

Sad...very Very Sad.

#8 | Posted by foshaffer

You misunderstand, he is FREE. He is not incarcerated in a governemnt prison. Free speech does not mean you will not get into trouble for what you say.

damn people are sensitive. ok so the guy is a slight buffoon... get over it.

here's how situations like this go: the prick here is the one who automatically takes offense. by taking offense, you are ASSUMING that this white announcer made the comment to try and be funny with a 'racially' snide remark.

now this may very well be the case, that he made the comment because of the driver's ethnicity.

HOWEVER, when you assume that's the case, you are doing so because the guy making the comment is white, and by making an assumption based on race... YOU are the racist.

ex: i was in a bar in philly, trying to flirt with these two girls, one white, one asian. they get shots and the bartender gives it to them in little plastic to-go cups. i make the comment: 'jeeze, taking shots out of wasabi to-go containers...lol what a cheap bar'. (because that's what i imagined is often contained in those little holders - i like sushi). anyway, the asian bitch proceeds to bitch me out and yell and scream etc etc, 'i'm chinese not japanese you dumb racist fuck etc etc.'

all i did was be silent and point to my head while mouthing: it's all in YOUR head. (and the dumbass was a UPENN student).

similar situation, her fault for assuming i made the comment out of a racial motivation towards her, and not thinking, hmmm maybe this guys likes sushi.

so do all white people have to be overly sensitive and go out of there way NOT to offend a minority in order to get around the minority's ASSumptions?

Was it a greasy taco?

real taco = grilled sliced steak, on tortilla (4-5 inches in diameter) topped with taquilleria (sp?) sauce, cilantro, and onions.

must make from scratch in nyc.

real taco = grilled sliced steak, on tortilla (4-5 inches in diameter) topped with taquilleria (sp?) sauce, cilantro, and onions.

must make from scratch in nyc.

#15 | Posted by Yodar013

New York City?

Right... Spoken like a true gringo. Better yet, Yanqui.

Go here:

www.mexconnect.com

Learn about what a taco really is.

Some choice choices:

TACOS DE CABEZA , literally meaning "head tacos", are just that. A traditional breakfast in Sonora and the Bajo, they are also popular in Mexico City. Traditionally, the head of a steer was steamed all night, the bones and gristle removed in the morning, and the meat shredded and stirred with its broth.

TACOS DE BARBACOA , another morning treat, are most commonly found in the central part of the country, especially in the states of Mexico, Tlaxcala and Hidalgo. The filling for these tacos is traditionally prepared by wrapping sheep, lamb or goat meat in maguey leaf linings, called pencas, placing it over a pan to catch the juices which help steam the meat, and burying it in a fire pit in the ground, something like an underground oven.

TACOS DE CARNITAS, Originally a specialty of Michoacan and Jalisco, now found in nearly every part of Mexico, these tacos are made from pork that has been cut up and cooked in lard with orange rind, which gives the carnitas a lovely deep golden brown color. The different "porky parts" are displayed in a glass case resembling an aquarium and kept warm by a heat lamp. The customer tells the taquero his choice or simply points to the desired part, which is removed, placed on the chopping block, and cut into bite-size pieces.

None of those sound good to me, Zot.

Stupid remark, but come on. Get a little thicker skin people. It wasn't a SLUR. It was in bad taste and an "ethnic" joke. He's human, get over it. It's not like he said something like "He's probably out drying his back off" or something else derogatory. It WASN'T derogatory - just dumb humor. Poor Juan, Laughing all the way to the bank. What a wuss. People just don't think sometimes. They are human after all. It's not like it was meant to be insulting.

Insulting would be asking why it took one of the supposedly "greatest drivers in the world" so long to put a winning season together.

Good thing he isn't trying to buy a sports team.

It kills me when people in these kinds of positions just blurt out whatever is on their minds.

I guess I expect them to be more poised.

Hey a black Taco????? Why not a white taco???? Wtf?? Where is Sharpton on this? How about Celasary?????

well, was he out getting a taco or not?

well, was he out getting a taco or not?

No one is saying, but hints of pico de gallo were noticable

It kills me when people in these kinds of positions just blurt out whatever is on their minds.

I guess I expect them to be more poised.

#20 | Posted by Lisa

Their whole existence is based on blurting things out. They are sports announcers...

"Their whole existence is based on blurting things out. They are sports announcers..."

Well I expect them to blurt out sports related stuff...but when it comes to other things...they need to make sure their brains are loaded before shooting off their mouths.

Don't ya think?

Since when are "tacos" synonymous with Spain? Montoya is hardly "mexican"... Had he said he is out eating "spanish rice" would this be an issue?

What do you want to bet if the NASCAR driver's name had been Danny O'Brien, and during the football game Griese had made a wisecrack about O'Brien being "out eating a corn beef and potatoes supper and washing it down with a six pack of beer," no one would have said a word.

tempest in a teapot

Would it have been more PC is Griese had said he was "out having an arepa"?

Lighten up

Is there any chance McCarver can say something racist and have him removed for the Series? I think they should suspend for ignorant comments related to the game more than any innocent, meaninglesss joke.

#25 | Posted by Lisa

They are human. Have you never blurted out something and then thought "Jeez, shouldn't have said that".

It wasn't nasty. There is always filler... Watch some sporting events.

Since when are "tacos" synonymous with Spain? Montoya is hardly "mexican"... Had he said he is out eating "spanish rice" would this be an issue?

#26 | Posted by crispee_oc

Think COLUMBIA. Not Spain. And yes there are "tacos" in Columbia.

None of those sound good to me, Zot.

#17 | Posted by Lisa

All depends on what you're used to and what you're willing to try.

One of the major streets in my village has been pretty much appropriated by Hispanics over the years. Truly a Little Mexico has sprung up. Lots of eateries and taquerias. Steak definitely isn't something generally put in a taco. Beef jowls are more likely. Marinated vegetables that will leave you speechless, literally, for many minutes.

Americans tend to eat only the choice parts from the food critter. Don't see a lot of hearts and brains and jowls and kidneys and chicken feet in the meat aisles of Safeway or Kroger. Got to go to Rancho Liborio for example, a large Hispanic food market, for those other pieces and parts not seen on the yanqui dinner plate. The glass partition in the meat compartment full of chopped off chicken feet is fascinating.

"Watch some sporting events."

You're new here, aren't you?? LOL

"They are human."

You're right, they are!

" Have you never blurted out something and then thought "Jeez, shouldn't have said that".

Yep, sure have...nothing like that though! And I am responsible for what does come out of my mouth, just as they are and need to pay the consequences for their words.

You can't eat tacos if you are Hispanic.

You can't eat watermelom if you are black.

You can't eat bagels and lox if you are Jewish.

You can't eat kimchi if you are Korean.

You can't eat sand pies if you are Muslim.

Think COLUMBIA. Not Spain. And yes there are "tacos" in Columbia.

You miss the point. Tacos are synonymous with "Mexico" not Columbia. BTW... Montoya has a Spanish name.

This is a Spanish name; the first family name is Montoya and the second is Roldn.

Had he said he is out eating "spanish rice" would this be an issue?

#26 | Posted by crispee_oc

Yes.

White folk making allusions to somebody's ethnicity is verboten.

White folk making allusions to somebody's ethnicity is verboten.

Weel you are probably going to love the new Carl's JR. commercial of some guido slobbering over a Italian sandwich, while some guy is banging around in the trunk.

Beef jowls -- ??

Call me gringa--but that just sounds gross...

This was said in error--did he apologize?

Americans like people who give an apology right out of the box.

#33 | Posted by Lisa

Nope - been around a long time Lisa. Longer then you I think.

Just not drinking the cool aide on one side of the aisle or the other so I don't often get dragged into Left vs Right.

"Yep, sure have...nothing like that though! And I am responsible for what does come out of my mouth, just as they are and need to pay the consequences for their words. "

I still don't see what the big deal is. Sure it was an ethnic reference joke. But it wasn't a mean one. Everyone has this special PC Skin these days. It's so thin if it brushes up against something people scream like idiots. I hear much worse on a daily basis. Thicken it up a little and grow up. Say what you will, I would be shocked if you were "so perfect". The difference is you were not being broadcast when you said it. I am sure you have said much worse.

Where's Hitler?

Drinking beer and having schnitzel.

Bad comment. Shouldn't ruin the guy, though. Meanwhile, Microsoft is getting shit for pulling its support of the "family guy" because of making fun of feminine hygiene, and jokes about incest.

Where, exactly, are our priorities?

#35 | Posted by crispee_oc

OMG. "Tacos" are synonymous to who with Mexico? The uneducated certainly. I tend to think more Latin America in general. To the uneducated, he's a Mexican or a Spaniard too.

Montoya is a name that is of Spanish descent. It doesn't make him Spanish. Technically it is "Hispanic" no longer "just" Spanish. That is sort of the standard naming practice in Hispanic countries in general, not just "Spain". I can name about 15 countries off hand that use the naming convention.

What do you want to bet if the NASCAR driver's name had been Danny O'Brien, and during the football game Griese had made a wisecrack about O'Brien being "out eating a corn beef and potatoes supper and washing it down with a six pack of beer," no one would have said a word.

#27 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-10-28 11:08 AM |

What? No Whiskey?

"Is there any chance McCarver can say something racist and have him removed for the Series? I think they should suspend for ignorant comments related to the game more than any innocent, meaninglesss joke."

I actually think Joe Buck almost makes McCarver tolerable in comparision. I've dislike McCarver for longer but I dislike Buck more intensely.

"Weel you are probably going to love the new Carl's JR. commercial of some guido slobbering over a Italian sandwich, while some guy is banging around in the trunk."

That's ridiculous and insulting. No self respecting Guido would buy an Italian sandwich from a chain restaurant.

OMG. "Tacos" are synonymous to who with Mexico? The uneducated certainly. I tend to think more Latin America in general. To the uneducated, he's a Mexican or a Spaniard too.
#42 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2009-10-28 11:40 AM

It never amazes me when some jabroni talks about being uneducated. Maybe Piccolo Pete has trouble with big words like "synonymous"...

A taco (pronounced /ˈtɑːkoʊ/) is a traditional Mexican dish composed of a corn or wheat tortilla folded or rolled around a filling. A taco can be made with ...

By the way, they eat tacos in colombia.

I actually think Joe Buck almost makes McCarver tolerable in comparision. I've dislike McCarver for longer but I dislike Buck more intensely.

Never thought there was a worse team than the Angels Physioc and Hudler until Buck and McCarver were formed.

Will never forget McCarver ripping on Ruben Sierra saying he is too old to catch up with a fastball. Of course the very next pitch was a fastball which he promptly hit out of the park...Or the genius wondering out loud why nobody ever drops a infield fly on purpose, in the hopes a player may not know the rule and advances at his own risk...

Where's Hitler? Drinking beer and having schnitzel.

That would be real warm beer and SMOKED schnitzel.

Free Speech has been dead in this country for a very long time---the right killed it with their attitude of boycotting anyone who says something they don't like. I've heard DR's say they would boycott different products, films, etc because they didn't like what concepts the products or films supported. Now the same rightists are bleating about Free Speech being dead.

It used to be the attitude in this country that---"I may not support what that person says, but I would die for their right to say it."

Now, the attitude is---"I may not support what that person says, so I will boycott them and do my best to ruin their lives and business." That attitude comes from the right---not the left.

newsweek.washingtonpost.com

That reminds me of the scene in Hot Rod......

www.youtube.com

LM

Free Speech has been dead in this country for a very long time---the right killed it with their attitude of boycotting anyone who says something they don't like.

Oblivious to the likes of Jesse and Al? Hardly people on the right.

Oblivious to the likes of Jesse and Al? Hardly people on the right.

#52 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-10-28 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

First---their boycotts have to do with people making derogatory remarks about race--harking back to the days of lynching black people

Second--they are individuals speaking out--not organizations such as mentioned above.

Third--they were exercising their Free Speech.

Fourth---they were urging boycotts in the interest of freedom of individuals---not hatred like those of the right, who urge boycotts in the interest of hatred and anti American principles.

That was an idiotic ethnic joke by Griese, and it wasn't even accurate. Tacos aren't Colombian cuisine.

"First---their boycotts have to do with people making derogatory remarks about race--harking back to the days of lynching black people"

Retort was to your absurd post blaming the right for the so called ban on free speech

"Second--they are individuals speaking out--not organizations such as mentioned above."

See answer above. Not to mention look up Rainbow Coalition amongst other Jackson know entities...

"Third--they were exercising their Free Speech."

See first answer, again. Nothing to do with your ignorant post.

"Fourth---they were urging boycotts in the interest of freedom of individuals---not hatred like those of the right, who urge boycotts in the interest of hatred and anti American principles."

See first and second answer. Will add to read a book called 'Shakedown'

"That was an idiotic ethnic joke by Griese..."

Maybe the guy who set Griese up should also be suspended. Seems just as stupid as Griese's comeback being an issue, wouldn't one think?

taquilleria (sp?) sauce

#15 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2009-10-28 10:16 AM

What's that? Can't find it on yahoo.

The right killed free speech as shown above---anything the right doesn't like--they boycott.

Crispee OC

What has the Rainbow Coalition ever boycotted? Any boycotts from the left are in retaliation for boycotts from the right---the right has killed free speech in this country.

This has nothing to do with free speech. The government isn't suspending him. ESPN can do whatever the fuck it wants with him.

Can one really be this fucking stupid????

What has the Rainbow Coalition ever boycotted?
#59 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-10-28 01:03 PM

Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, called for a boycott of Mitsubishi Motors products in ... Jackson's Rainbow/Operation PUSH Coalition announced a boycott of MMMA .

The Reverend Jesse L. Jackson Sr., president and CEO of the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, called for a boycott of Mitsubishi Motors products in the U.S. after the ...

Rainbow Coalition to urge boycotts of schools that don't hire, promote blacks

#46 | Posted by crispee_oc

Run straight to the wikipedia for taco did you? Since I have had them in places like Guatemala, Honduras, Belize and Peru - I would say the popular dictionary has an uneducated US populist definition. I stand my statement to the uneducated - jabroni.

BTW... Must be a liberal to dip to the name calling so quickly. I find that's what someone on the left quickly resorts to when they are losing and can't make a point.

BTW... Must be a liberal to dip to the name calling so quickly.

O for two in one sentence...?

Pray tell how calling someone uneducated is not name calling and the fact you couldn't comprehend a simple rhetorical sentence that tacos are synonymous with Mexico?

Hardly a liberal bone in my body.

Crispee OC

The boycotts came for Mitsubishi motors for them to allowing sexual harassment of females, and to promote equal opportunity employment---both are American principles they were fighting for. The boycott had nothing to do with Free Speech---I guess you can be that fucking stupid as to not see the difference.

Boycotting schools that don't support equal opportunity is the same thing. Nothing to do with Free Speech. Are you as fucking stupid as you seem to be? You prove it every day with every post, so I guess you must be that fucking stupid.

What a bunch of shit. what happened to the left of the 60s when it was ok to say anything to the left today that if you don't agree with them you are hateful. go listen to a black or hispanic comic and listen to the hate filled speech coming out of their mouths. that is ok. let a "cracker" say something and that is hate. off um all but 9

The boycotts came...
64 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-10-28 01:59 PM

Funny I thought you posted this asinine question????

"What has the Rainbow Coalition ever boycotted?"

What has the Rainbow Coalition ever boycotted? Any boycotts from the left are in retaliation for boycotts from the right---the right has killed free speech in this country.

www.google.com

Politicians have killed free speech in this country.

What does this incident have to do with free speech?

#65 | Posted by taxpayer at 2009-10-28 02:00 PM |

How about any rerun of 'All in the Family'... Shut up you stupid polack, you!!!

political correctness run a muck. BFD, it was a very very lame attempt at humor. Most of the people that are upset with comments such as these are the same people that were picked on in school and this is their way to repay society. These are also the ones that say we shouldn't keep score in little league games. Stop crying and get off the couch.

Latins don't watch NASCAR anyway. I don't see the problem. I am sure Montoya enjoys tacos as do most people latin people.

I am curious. How many illegal immigrants are driving illegally on America's roads today as I write this post

zot, i'm from LA. and you forgot lengua.

and you forgot lengua.

#71 | Posted by Yodar013

I wanted to. I though I did.

Much grass, Tongue Boy!


We are seeing the death of free speech under the disguise of "hate speech" ( I thought the CONSTITUTION said that congress cannot make a law that infringes on free speech) and political correctness.....so we don't hurt anyones "Feelings".

Sad...very Very Sad.

#8 | Posted by foshaffer

Free Speech does not imply a lack of consequences for what you say.

Anyone who would be sooooo offended that they actually made a call into the network about it is a complete loser. That's the bottom line to this whole subject.

Manypaths,

Yes, it does..it is either free or it isn't ...anything where someone else is determining what you can ..and cannot say means it is no longer free.it is either FREE speech..say what you want as long as it does not cause physical harm to someone..(as saying Fire in a crowded movie house) or it isn't free.

Hurting ones feelings is not physical injury.

And it is people like you that will cause this country to lose all the freedoms people have fought and died for. You are probably the type that make sure nobody cheers at high school football games or hollers at the refs.

and that is my free speach for the day.

Bob,

Boycoting something you don't like is as much an exersize in Free speech as anything. I will not pay to hear you say something is NOT the same as keeping you from saying it in the first place - or using the government to prevent you from saying things via "hate speech" laws.

Bob Greasy was probably tired of people thinking he was a Mexican, so he thought he'd get a little payback.

I guess I don't parse everything said by individuals and probably would have missed the "significance" of what was said by Griese if I was listening to the broadcast. All I know is that this whole "political correctness " thing is getting out of whack. If he had made a comment about other ethnicities and their food association (as mentioned by other posters) nothing would have happened. The craziness and insanity in this country continues.

enough with the retards talking about free speech. free speech protections is from governmental intrusion. period.

employers can fire people for saying stuff they don't like. shit, unless there's a contract, employers can generally fire someone at will, for any reason, or no reason at all.

it would impede ESPN's freedom of expression to forbid them from woodshedding this guy. please, enough with all the free speech shit already.

"The craziness and insanity in this country continues.

#78 | Posted by matsop at 2009-10-28 07:08 PM | Reply | Flag: EXHIBIT "B"

Foshaffer

You miss the point as most rightists usually do. The boycotts by the Rainbow Coalition were not boycotts against someone exercising their Free Speech. The boycotts by the religious right are against those who exercise their right to Free Speech. I doubt you comprehend the difference even now.

There is no law against "hate speech" except in your mind. Go to any KKK march and you will see that people can spew all the hate speech they like.

Free Speech does not imply a lack of consequences for what you say.

#73 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-10-28 04:11 PM | Reply | Flag

Yes, it does. If there is a price to pay---it isn't Free.

Just like religious people who claim God gives Free Will---but can not explain any difference between Free Will, and regular choice. If there are consequences to an action, it isn't Free.

That is why I made the observation in my #50 post:

It used to be the attitude in this country that---"I may not support what that person says, but I would die for their right to say it."

Now, the attitude is---"I may not support what that person says, so I will boycott them and do my best to ruin their lives and business." That attitude comes from the right---not the left.

Meanwhile, Obama sits down to another meal of fried chicken and collard greens...

Please pass the mountain oysters.

#83 | Posted by Beachbuzz

Racist. Blatant racist. Don't bother denying it.

Relax Timex. It's called an ethnic joke. I have one for you too.

Three queers walk into a bar and order up some slippery nipples...

Should I continue or would that offend you?

I'm relaxed, thanks. You're a bigoted moron.

Please pass the mountain oysters.

#83 | Posted by Beachbuzz

And that's yet another (stomach wrenching) offering at Rancho Liborio. Just down from the cold case full of chicken feet is a cold case stacked to the top with huge mountain oysters.

I wonder though what they do with the shells...

I wonder though what they do with the shells...
Posted by ZOT

*vomiting a little in my mouth.

was that even necessary, zot?

I'm having breakfast over here.

well, was he out getting a taco or not?

#22 | Posted by Shredder

ROFL!

On Topic?

Dumb joke? Yes.

A slur? Hardly.

Are people right to take offense?

Meh, marginally.

Are people who are deeply offended by this kinda talk idiots?

Si.

Be Well.

/Luff me some Tacos, Laws yes!
//See also: Burritos, Taquitos and Quesadillas!
///Es muy yum!

M O O N! That spells tacos!

I think it would be less offensive if he had said Montoya was at HOME having a taco.

Everyone knows that all self-respecting Hispanics make awesome home made tacos.

Any boycotts from the left are in retaliation for boycotts from the right---the right has killed free speech in this country.

#59 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Do you ever post anything that has any logic or reason to it what so ever?

This has nothing to do with free speech. The government isn't suspending him. ESPN can do whatever the fuck it wants with him.

#60 | Posted by somoco

This has everything to do with political correctness which, in my opinion, is the biggest threat to free speech and definitely squashes it more than any other thing or group or entity.

#93 so boycott ESPN in protest of political correctness. You'll never get over political correctness, as it is not a concept mandated by government.

If you're saying that ESPN should be allowed to do anything to this guy for what he said, then you really are calling for infringement on employer's rights in a most severe way. If I have an employee who says something insensitive that could cost me millions of dollars, I need to be able to fire that person ASAP without having to look over my shoulder.

for one, I think the guy made a stupid comment that everyone should just get over pretty quick. but, it's not my call, and it sounds like everyone is going to want their pound of flesh.

Celebrate diversity...

Just don't ever speak of it, notice it, point it out, etc...

And NO, I am not Hispanic.

#6 | Posted by Marty at 2009-10-28 10:01 AM

Obvously! i bet you use that pasty ketchup shit and call it salsa too!

"Obvously! i bet you use that pasty ketchup shit and call it salsa too!

#96 | Posted by Redneckville at 2009-10-29 02:12 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: Thinks salsa is a staple for all Hispanics"

#97 | Posted by Taint at 2009-10-29 02:35 PM | Reply | Flag: Comprehension Problems

Do you ever post anything that has any logic or reason to it what so ever?

#92 | Posted by everlong at 2009-10-29 10:01 AM | Reply | Flag

Do you ever make a point, or rebut a statement?

Relax Timex. It's called an ethnic joke.

#85 | Posted by Beachbuzz at 2009-10-28 10:49 PM | Reply | Flag

Jokes usually have a funny part.

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