Send Darth Dick to water board them.

Or maybe he can just scare them with his 5 deferments.

Cheney Bush spent 7 years paying but not really trying to get the Pakis to fight back, which they now are.

A just-released photo of the "elite force"

Why did you drop bigleaguechew and come back as letusprey?

Why did you drop bigleaguechew and come back as letusprey?

Oh c'mon. Let the sock puppet use actual photoes of those three to make a funny.

Iranians are the biggest loudmouths ever.

Why talk about "we will take you off the map!" when your "elite soldiers" get arrested in minutes? LOL

They should thank God, this is Pakistan and their stupid soldiers won't be killed..... this time.

but not really trying to get the Pakis to fight back, which they now are.

But Pakistan still isn't fighting against America's enemies. LOL

Why are you making stuff up?

Pakistan is fighting against Pakistan's enemies. Not America's.

The Pak-Taliban are not the same as the Afghan-taliban.

And however much you may wish Pakistan to hurt Iran... I don't see us hurting a friendly (but assholish) neighbor just because you want us to.

Meanwhile, update on Waziristan.

More taliban killed yesterday and many more weapons captured.

Notice where it sez "Indian ammo" in the video (around the end).

Indian ammoz

Speaking of the "Indian" Connection;

Hows this for a mind twister;

Uzbeks look Mongoloid.

Gurkhas Look Mongoloid.

Uzbeks who fight with Islamists are from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan.

Uzbekistan for seventy years were part of, not a secular, but an officially Atheist country.

Then you add in that the men from Uzbekistan who will be fighting us would have been born during the oficially atheist period of Uzbekistan.

Now to really twist your mind; why would these grown men get circumsised when they have fought and killed and died with the most hardcore Islamists on the planet.

These Uzbeks know how much hatred there is for them in Pakistan, none would be willing to be taken prisoner and would thus fight to the death.

Now add to that the horrific security situation Indians face in Occupied Afghanistan. How uch soldiers do those military engineering corps of theirs cost to deploy in Afghanistan? How much would they constantly have to sink to secure them? The Gurkha's are amongst the elite of their fighting force. They wouldn't waste them as cannon fodder.

The "Gurkha's" we killed were deployed as cannon fodder.

Those pictures of dead Gurkhas in Swat?

Occam's razor says those are Uzbeks.

Its Uzbeks, Chechens and Arabs who are the foreigners messing in Pakistan. Not the Indians, barely the Americans and certainly not Israeli's.

We can add Iran (as they lay a spy network) to that mix.

Occam's razor says those are Uzbeks.

It's possible now that you have pointed out that they used to be communist and hence probably uncircumcised.

However, Gurkhas are very short people (like the dead bodies). Uzbeks are tall.

You will see other differences in facial features as well.

The dead uncircumcised soldiers are Gurkhas, not Uzbeks. Just getting hold of uncircumcised mongoliads isn't the only evidence we have.

The "Indian ammo" is easy enough to be recognized. It's made different. You can usually tell where stuff like that comes from.

The Gurkha's are amongst the elite of their fighting force. They wouldn't waste them as cannon fodder.

1. in the past, Gurkhas have been used as cannon fodder. Indians are racist towards them and don't even pay them on time.

2. For a chance to "get even" with Pakistan, sacrificing a few Gurkhas is not a big deal.

We can add Iran (as they lay a spy network) to that mix.

Iran has always had a spy network of sorts. So has Oman (which the Americans are tapping into).

Many Baluch have family and cultural connections with these two nations.

Occam's razor says those are Uzbeks

My dad spends a lot of time in Uzbekistan on business. He says it sucks unless you like goat and radishes.

And he's tall and not circumcised

He says it sucks

Everything that was once Soviet, sucks.

And he's tall and not circumcised

A joke? I didn't get it.

Gurkhas are very short people

Look at Rahid Dostum - he's tiny.

It would be nice to think that the Indians would do something like that, but I think that they if anyone has the capacity to enter that far into Pakistani territory armed and ready for a fight, I would put the IMU above the R&AW/DIA people in that category.

Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan people, or their fellow traveller seems much more likely.

The "Indian ammo" is easy enough to be recognized. It's made different.

That's a vague way to put it. Weapons are like STD's. They travel from hot zone to hot zone. Look at how US ammo is being used/bought in large quantity by the Para-Military Drug Cartels (No Longer "Gangs") in Mexico. That doesn't mean that the US is supporting them. The worst most anti-US and anti-Mexico cartels consist of Mexican and Honduran Special Forces guys who have gone Awol. Los Zetas. US and Mexican military are allies. Doesn't mean they are getting support from them.

IMU people are tight with the Mehsuds and the North Waziristanis 's. Its not difficult to imagine that the Chair Lift Operator and his Cake-Baker assistant would ask for some heavy fighting reinforcement. Experienced IMU people makes more sense.

Iran has always had a spy network of sorts.

Why did they stupidly send soldiers then?

So has Oman (which the Americans are tapping into).

Many Baluch have family and cultural connections with these two nations

Yeah I remember mentioning that to you :-D

A joke

I will admit only this much: Discussing circumsision is a strange aspect of politico-military analysis.

A joke? I didn't get it.

You said Uzbeks are tall and uncircumcised. My dad spends about 2 months a year in Uzbekistan and is tall an uncircumcised. OK. A joke. A weak one.

But my dad really is tall and uncircumcised. That part is no joke.

Discussing circumsision is a strange aspect of politico-military analysis.

LOL I thought the same thing until I came to the point tosser was making. Then it made sense.

Speaking of the North Waziristani's; my guess is that we might one after the other; go after the other two factions in Waziristan.

I've heard that the Pak Intellience is glad that Musharraf is gone and they're using the concentration on South Waziristan to build up a solid intelligence network; one that had been destroyed by the Arabs and the Central Asians after the fall of Afghanistan. This time they won't let any one get in there way.

This makes me consider; will they take on Hafiz Gul Bahadur after this?

Yeah I remember mentioning that to you

Yep.

Others have told me the same since. You were correct.

Why did they stupidly send soldiers then?

Because they went into loudmouth-mode and said they would go into Pakistan and take on whats-their-name.

So they tried to prove they could do it.

Well, guys, you did it. You are now going to be stuck here... in jail... for some time.

"Elite Unit", my ass. LOL

Discussing circumsision is a strange aspect of politico-military analysis.

It might seem strange but it's an extremely valid point.

The Uzbeks who support taliban will be circumcised, I think.

You said Uzbeks are tall and uncircumcised.

I just said they were tall. YS said, they might be uncircumcised and I agreed with him... sort of.

Look at Rahid Dostum - he's tiny.

All that bad Afghan food... LOL.

I was talking about an average. Gurkhas are very short people.

will they take on Hafiz Gul Bahadur after this?

We are going after everyone, one by one.

If this Bahadur guy makes trouble, he'll be on our shit list too.

We are going after everyone, one by one.

Government's Intention? Or Rehman Malik's Talk?

Gurkhas are very short people.

Is that why those little tiny pickles are called 'gherkins'?

are called 'gherkins'

Mebbe

off to google [etymology gherkin]

Well, it sounded good anyway, but we were wrong:

1661, from Du. pl. of gurk "cucumber," shortened form of E.Fris. augurk "cucumber," probably from a Balto-Slavic source (cf. Polish ogrek "cucumber"), possibly ult. from Medieval Gk. angourion "a kind of cucumber," said to be from Pers. angarah. The -h- was added 1800s to preserve the hard "g" pronunciation.

said to be from Pers. angarah

I take it Pers. means Persian?

Well this thread is about a Persian and/or Iranian "Special" Force that went astray.

So yeah coming close to the neighbourhood ;-D

Others have told me the same since

Good to hear re-confirmation from the ground.

BTW - Now I can post. You can see yourself. Thanks Man.

Government's Intention? Or Rehman Malik's Talk?

GHQ's intention.

This Govt. has no intentions, just talk. And Rehman Malik is a buffoon.

BTW - Now I can post.

Good... If you have any problems, post in the Suggestions area. Someone always replies.

And... I can see your post. :)

GHQ's intention

Yup. I heard this news emanating from some senior government types.

Pak Intelligence...they're using the concentration on South Waziristan to build up a solid intelligence network; one that had been destroyed by the Arabs and the Central Asians after the fall of Afghanistan.

To be precise in all of those Agencies of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas. All those Agencies and their surrounding Districts.

Stupid Iranian "elite force" sent back home.

The Iranian army requires every soldier to be able to throw their AK ten feet and run 40 yards in the opposite direction within six seconds of spotting an armed enemy.

To be an elite Iranian soldier you must be able to throw your AK fifteen feet away from you and run 40 yards within five seconds of spotting an armed enemy.

To be an elite Iranian soldier you must be able to throw your AK fifteen feet away from you and run 40 yards within five seconds of spotting an armed enemy.

French training?

Who else would like to see these 2 hellholes beat the shit out of eachother?

"French training?"

No, that involves ankle grabbing.

The "chuck and run" is a Middle Eastern technique.

Frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing Iran get a comeuppance. I'm just not sure Pakistan is capable of providing it in any protracted manner. Less inflamatory however than Israel being the one...

I'm just not sure Pakistan is capable of providing it in any protracted manner.

Pakistan and Iran will never go to war. So get that thought out of your head.

But even we do, we don't have to do anything.

We just let the US use the 4 airbases we lent them to do the job from there. Those 4 airbases alone, are more than enough to decimate the Iranian armed forces.

The US has been asking us to "upgrade" the agreement we signed with them that allows those airbases to be used for "rescue and logistics" only.

All we have to do is sign the new agreement. Those airbases (all Pakistani airbases) are fully configured to take on a big fat power like India.

Iran won't last 2 minutes. Specially with American planes flying from them.

And judging from what we saw today with their "elite force" going to jail .... LOL

But don't get all horny now... it's not going to happen. Iran will behave itself. All they need is a little embarrassment now and then.