Sighhhhhhhhh I wouldn't doubt it a bit.

"Southern Poverty Law Center"

I automatically have negative feelings to this organization due to its condescending as fuck name.

Wouldn't it behoove them to have a better name?

It would be hard to "train" to be a patsy!.... Yes Andy, your intuition is perfect on SPLC, but nothing to do with the name. Research what the scum is about.

I do like the map that their website has showing hate groups around the country. Very interesting.

I absolutely totally believe there are many rightwingers (including some who post on this site) who would sacrifice everything to be the next McVeigh if that entailed hurting President Obama and the Democratic Party. That is how thick the rightwing hatred and stupidity have become.

#5 | Posted by moder8

Agreed, except they lack the requisite balls.
That's probably the only thing standing between this society and chaos: Reichwing pussification.

Any right wing attack would strengthen President Obama and the Democratic Party, unless your speaking of literally hurting them.

Plotting against the government (especially President) is a death wish, though.

And yeah, some people may talk tough but won't do anything. It's like the people who said they would move to Canada when Bush was elected, they weren't serious.

With all of my fellow right wing friends we all agree that it would be a shame for America if the President were hurt. Anecdotal evidence is a bitch though.

If it's of any comfort to the Liberals it would probably be the same story if the Sacrosanct One's fraternal twin McCain had had won.

Loony_contstipated hates any organization that dosn't suck up to the Rtards is evil.

Hey ASSHOLE, the SPLC is just the gentile B'nai B'rith.

Loony_contstipated hates any organization that dosn't suck up to the Rtards is evil.

Hey ASSHOLE, the SPLC is just the gentile B'nai B'rith.

Actually, I think L_RContrarian is alluding to the belief that the SPLC had an informant on the INSIDE of Elohim city, and that they KNEW about Oklahoma City. But they did nothing to inform government officials.

Afterall. You never want to let a crisis go to waste.

Research what the scum is about.

Yeah, civil rights for minoritiesis such a bad thing. but it's nice to see the righties standing shoulder to shoulder with guys who blow up day-cares.

And as far as this SPLC/McViegh connection, anybody got a link other than stormfront or the 5 year old World Nut Daily ones? You know, something that came out of the review ordered?

Didn't think so....

#11,12,13,14
Unbelievable! Wake up!

alluding to the belief that the SPLC had an informant on the INSIDE of Elohim city, and that they KNEW about Oklahoma City

Alluding to the belief? Did you read their admission quote?

Not only did they not inform, with foreknowledge they also facilitated it to happen!!!

Did you read their admission quote?

Link please...

The real Hitler would be so proud of these boys.

But, I hope they shoot themselves in the foot.

Not only did they not inform, with foreknowledge they also facilitated it to happen!!!

#15 | Posted by L_RContrarian

You got your head stuck so far up your ass are you smelling it yet?

Cause you really REEK like a DUMBSHIT!

I cannot get to the story... it says story not found... I wanted to find out about all those left wing militias that must be out there too!

What? There are NO left wing militias?

hmmmmm

"There are NO left wing militias? "

Sure there are, only difference is that they study and practice the French system (drop rifle, wave white handkerchief, beg for reparations :)

I am not no member of any group, nor never intend to be any member of any group to wage war against our vile, corrupt government, but this Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black, and there are millions and millions of people in these U.S.A states that agree with me???

The extreme left will stoop to any extreme to defeat and murder, YES MURDER, any opposition that it thinks is against their taking over the minds AND COMPLETE CONTROL of ALL it's citizens..........

And this forum sounds like the beginning of a NAZI STYLE way to execute all opposers of the NEW WORLD ORDER, ANOTHER JEWISH HOLOCOST EXCEPT THIS TIME AMERICANS, that American government intends to instill and enforce upon all it's citizens...

look out for Martial law to be imposed EVERYWHERE folks, they have been training for it, and they will use the POPULAR HATE INSPIRED CLICHE "THE SOUTHERNERS" They will impliment disinformation to turn the populations against one another so they can come in with their specially trained swat teams to murder innocent Americans, and believe me they intend to accomplish it...
They intend to accomplish it...
This is the truth, take it to heart folks you want have the opportunity to hear this truth again...

Their disinformation is, Southern style extremists and their right wing thinking, are our enemy, thereby turning the populations against all those they think oppose their adgenda...

look out all from the SOUTH you are at war again and Washington has declared it, Washington has declared war against you, you are innocent........

They are officially declaring war against any SOUTHERN citizen who oppose their NEW WORLD ORDER ADGENDA...
AND THEY WILL MURDER INNOCENT SOUTHERNERS TO HAVE THEIR WAY.

LOOK OUT FOLKS THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DECLARED WAR ON ALL CITIZENS WHO OPPOSE THEIR COMPLETE DICTATORIAL TAKEOVER AND CONTROL OF ALL IT'S CITIZENS FOR ALL PURPOSES AND INTENTS...

It's happened BHO HAS COMPLETELY FLIPPED, HE HAS BECOME UNHINGED, HE HAS BECOME UNGLUED, NO MORE FREEDOMS OF SPEECH, NO MORE FREEDOM TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION, EVERYONE WILL SAY YES SIR AND NO SIR, AND WE WILL OBEY OUR MASTER, SO HELP ME MASTER OBAMA..........

Gee, we better nip that "patriot" business in the bud!

Let's see. Are there still more ACORN offices than militia groups? Check.

Law-abiding armed citizens are harmless. Corrupt liberal organizations aren't.

Dr. Feelgood,

Ya know I could swear I heard liberals saying the same thing about Bush.

In the meantime I don't see any signs of it other than a few hysterical ranters.

The United States has been around for 233 years I seriously doubt any president can destroy it in one term, heck Bush had two terms and even he couldn't pull it off.

I am more worried about the damage the Fed has done and it has had a lot longer than one or two terms to work on it.

Law-abiding armed citizens are harmless. Corrupt liberal organizations aren't.

#22 | Posted by Disney

That's uncalled for! Sure ACORN may be corrupt, but there non-partisan. It's even printed on a tee shirt they gave me. They were on one of their voter registration drives next door to my house. Course, I live next to a cemetery.......

Hey ya'll, The SPLC is unfortunately a source used by LEO's to track all kinds of criminal/violent trends in the US. I say unfortunately because their bias comes out in droves when it engages certain groups. Many of the "white supremist" and "militia" groups reported are not in any way considered violent, but are nonetheless lumped in with the wacko crowd.

From what I get out of SPLC, basically any group of persons who regularly gather to voice their dissaproval of anything left-wing, no matter how peacefull or patriotic, are branded hate groups. They even attacked the Foriegn Legion, nuff said.

Are there a lot of folks out there feeling unrepresented because they:

A. Do not live in a metropolitan area, live on Starbucks and worship reality TV...
B. Do not "interpret" the Constitution, they just read it...
C. Can't understand why the folks running things (Both damned sides of the aisle by the way) can't exercise the basic rules of fiscal responsibility.

Folks, our IQ is not based on the local population density. It's a given that someone living in SoCal will have a different worldview than someone in, say, northern Montana. That's a good thing; just don't try to make the other side live by your standards. And if you escape that negetive lifestyle, don't bring it with you. Your welcome, LA isn't.

TAOWARRIOR: I don't know where you swear liberals saying the same thing about Bush, but I'm not surprised at liberals swearing against Bush, since they had a boatload of persuasion by their left wing liberal opposition to infiltrate and influence their minds to wage war against any opposition any way underhanded they possibly could, if it results in the innocent slaying of opposing opposition no one should be surprised...

There is one great difference between BUSH and the present leader we have ruling over us NOW,
Bush did believe in the free enterprise of an individual achieving and accomplishing success, the present leader Barrack Obama believes in the free enterprise of Socialism which is as HE HIMSELF SAID is the REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH....
UNEARNED REDISTRIBUTIONED OF WEALTH TO THE LAZY WHO HAS NOT LEAGALLY EARNED IT, OR DESERVES IT...

What kind of message does that send to all hard honest working Americans????

YES LEFT WING LEECHES ARE WILLING TO MOOCH OFF THE RIGHT WINGS LABORERS BUT ARE UNWILLING TO WORK FOR THEMSELVES.........

wHAT CAN ANYONE EXPECT FROM SUCH A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT, IT SHOULD BE NO SURPRISE....

I automatically have negative feelings to this organization due to its condescending as fuck name.

What is condescending about the name? It's a law firm that's based in Montgomery, Alabama, and was set up to handle discrimination cases.

RCade, the name just rubs me the wrong way. Why the inclusion of the word Poverty, or Southern? I don't see a good reason for it. Is there no Poverty or discrimination in the North? I'm not from the south and I could care less about a north/south discussion, it's strange that Southern and Poverty are used in the name of this organization however.

You don't see how it could be seen as being an insult to the center's fellow southerners?

^.^

"TAOWARRIOR: I don't know where you swear liberals saying the same thing about Bush..."

There was the assassination game where the player apparently got to take a shot at Bush, and while it wasn't going to be fatal, you can still get Liberalistas in a knot when you bring up the shoe thrower who has become a universal hero to them.

He stood up and threw TRUTH at POWER, you know...

*sigh*

YES LEFT WING LEECHES ARE WILLING TO MOOCH OFF THE RIGHT WINGS LABORERS BUT ARE UNWILLING TO WORK FOR THEMSELVES.........
#27 | Posted by Dr_Feelgood

Actually, umm...Blue States pay for the Red States in this country... Sorry dude. Right wing, Wal-mart shopping hicks are taking more from the Feds than they put in. The so called Liberal blue states are paying in more than they receive. Stupid Right Wing Leeches are willing to mooch off the Left Wing Laborers but are unwilling to work for themselves. I think they are too busy joining militias, making babies out of wedlock, and talking about God.

Blue States pay for the Red States in this country

Suckers!

"BHO HAS COMPLETELY FLIPPED, HE HAS BECOME UNHINGED, HE HAS BECOME UNGLUED, "

Is this what's called a self-retorting retort?

It's not uncommon for citizens to resort to violence against the state in bad times. The French Revolution is a good example.

SYCOPHANT YOU BETTER KNOW WHO GOD IS BEFORE YOU UTTER HIS NAME, because he does not take it lightly those who utter his name out of disrespect, as for those producing babies out of wedlock, you should examine your own family before you judge others...
That is more important for you than blue states or red states, my friend...

Drfeelgood-Please stay where you are...
We will pick you up shortly and-"help" you get back on your Meds.....

Sincerely:
Your friendly Drs, Nurses, and Government Agents....

# 34 by PPRAGMITIST iS this what's called a self-retorting retort?
I think you could safely say so IN YOUR OWN WARPED MIND, when it comes to the Presidential decisions of our present administration and the underhanded attack OF administrations they have imposed upon the Southern States of America, TO IMPLIMENT THAT OUR SOUTHERN STATES ARE CONSIDERED AS RIGHT WING MILITA STATES UNDER CONTROL OF THE WATCHFUL EYE OF SAID MARK POLTOK AN ANALYST FOR THE SOUTHERN LAW CENTER, WHICH TRACKS EXTREMISTS GROUPS, AND RECENTLY REPORTS RESURGENCE ON MILITIAS.

YES THIS DOES RAISE AN AWARENESS THAT CROOKED-WING EXTREMISTS ARE FORMING AGAINST ANY WHO MAY OPPOSE THE RIGHT FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF AMERICAN FREEDOM AND LAWS AND GOVERNMENT, AS INSTITUTED BY OUR AMERICAN CONSTITUTION...

Thank you, you precious ssob # 37 you make me feel so comfortable, # 37 FRANKF55 YOU ARE SO PRECIOUS YOU MAKE ME FEEL SO SAFE IN YOUR SLIMEY SICK HANDS
DO YOU TAKE MASTERBATING CARDS, OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE YOUR OWN SHIT SERVED???

what a crock of shit

"I think you could safely say so IN YOUR OWN WARPED MIND, "

Dude, I'm not the one writing in all caps or ranting about destruction of freedom of speech or using bizarre terms like master...

I'm not warped at all. Quite sane, actually. Probably disagree with you on, oh, everything, but far from warped.

I hope you're seeing someone. A professional. And I don't mean a hooker.

It is always amusing reading posts which manifest a sincere ignorance-based belief in a "left" vs. "right", or DEM vs GOP societal model.
Any person who seriously thinks Lee Harvey Oswald fired the fatal bullet which blew off the back of JFK's head, or who doesn't know that W and O work for the VERY SAME debt-as-money "globalist" oligarchs is too willfully ignorant and deliberately irrational to be in the conversation.
The wannabe-clever ad hominem "lefties" who constantly refer to other posters as having their heads up their rectums are so pathetically s-t-u-p-i-d and self-absorbed as to be all but hopelessly beyond spiritual and/or intellectual redemption.
These wannabe-clever ad hominem "lefty" control-freak haters are the REAL haters who make hate necessary because they make courteous rational dialog literally impossible. They leave society no way out other than Civil War ver 2.0. Accordingly, although I do not belong to one, and don't know anybody in one, I have no serious problem with any so-called "right wing" patriot group of which I am aware. Any enemy of the Big Brother tyranny-facilitating SPLC and its friends, benefactors and apologists can't be all bad.
Attention steal-and-redistribute control-freak leftists: there are tens of millions of ARMED Americans who feel as I do, and to whom self-ownship and individual freedom are NON-NEGOTIABLES. Many lovely small pieces of lead await you, should you ever actually work up the guts (highly unlikely) to come to our modest homes and steal what we've worked so hard for and what does not belong to you. So dream on, "leftist" loser Bullwinkles, and continue on with your tough-talking wannabe-clever ad hominem. It's all you've got! Somebody wake me up when the shooting starts . . . Y-A-W-N!
Anybody who has a problem with the 1st Amendment protecting political speech (as this post self-evidently is) needs to read Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969) (unanimous court), and Meyer v Grant, 486 US 414 (1988) (unanimous court) prior to running their mouths.

200 Right-Wing Militias Operate in US

As well there should be--"right wing" or otherwise.

We're a nation of individual and independent citizens---just as we were intended to be by the men who conceptualized and authored our founding documents.

A militia is an army composed of citizens.

An army is a large group of soldiers.

A soldier is a member of an army.

We are all citizen soldiers, tasked with protecting our Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

We're paying attention.

Get over it.

PRAGMATIST You are one who is not afraid to disagree with someone, I thank you for being honest, but also I am not afraid to be disagreeable and honest with you, or anyone else, that appears to not be intelligent...

Thank you I am a professional, and do not need to see any so called illerate professed professional..
You say you are not warped at all, is that yours or someone else's opinion???

You say you probably disagree with me on everything, which I seriously doubt...
but you are far from warped, which I also doubt...

And you call me dude and repremind me for writing in CAPS...
And who informed you my mind was warped???
And who told you I don't have the right to write in caps??? OBAMANATION'S NAZI LAW IS NOT REIGNING YET!!!

Another tax-evading nut weighs in.

Which was all fine and well in the 18th century. Today, politics, with money and opinion as weaponry, is how modern wars are fought.

Unless citizens own Blackhawks and Tomahawks as some would prefer.

OBAMANATION'S NAZI LAW IS NOT REIGNING YET!!!

People who think that if they yell they'll somehow make more sense.

Hardly.

Which was all fine and well in the 18th century

It doesn't matter what century we're in.

The concepts remain universal.

That's why they work.

"Thank you I am a professional, and do not need to see any so called illerate professed professional.."
~DR_FEELGOOD

You cannot make this shit up.

The concept of a citizen army defeating the US military is no longer an option.

More importantly, how's the little shitter?

People who think that if they yell they'll somehow make more sense.

Hardly.

I would say this is faux outrage, except you tell celery this all the time too, right, corky?

People who think that if they yell they'll somehow make more sense.
Hardly.
#47 | Posted by Corky

AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!

Case closed.

#52
Ouch, Charlie Brown!

'Nite ch'all.

why is the website now missing?

where are my feet?

nanc

More importantly, how's the little shitter?

The concept of a citizen army defeating the US military is no longer an option.

Of course its an option.

The US military is a volunteer, citizen army.

And though disciplined, it's far more aligned with the interests of the US than it is with the agenda of the current Executive Branch of the political system.

Some rantings and ravings that doesn't make sense doesn't even deserve an answer...

The concept of a citizen army defeating the US military is no longer an option.

They seem to be doing a fairly good job of it in Afghanistan.

The Unwashed Provincials are pissed, Cork.

Bad pissed.

That's why we have elections.

Or guns.

"The concept of a citizen army defeating the US military is no longer an option."

Billy is the Peoples' Hero.

That's right, Jacque. See you on the other side of the barricade, fascist pig! Look forward to this, mofo!!!

Scarface was a refugee from the Marxist shit that ruined his country.

Dumbass.

Scarface was a refugee from the Marxist shit that ruined his country.

Dumbass.

#64 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao

Bwahahaha. You know Jacque, there is no more humorless fuck than avowed Bircher Ray around here, but you're right on his ass. lol

#18 monstman
you may ad-hominem all you wish, but those are the facts of the case!

#14 North
nybody got a link other than stormfront or the 5 year old World Nut Daily ones? You know, something that came out of the review ordered?

You've answered your own question; you don't get to 'eliminate' the sources you don't like. The quote shows it was originally from the local paper called the Gazette. If you don't like these sources, go find the other one for yourself.

#42 able
Major rant, but your underlying point is valid! I also often express the same frustration on the brainless left vs right attacks.

The concept of a citizen army defeating the US military is no longer an option.

The united states military hasn't been able to defeat a poorly equiped, poorly armed, under-manned insurgency in two countries.

there are about 80 million gun owners in America with a combining total of 258 million guns

that's a great example you use there.

Course, I live next to a cemetery.......

#24 | Posted by STIRSUMUP at 2009-10-26 07:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

For easy access to dead chicks, no doubt.

Why the inclusion of the word Poverty, or Southern? I don't see a good reason for it. Is there no Poverty or discrimination in the North? I'm not from the south and I could care less about a north/south discussion, it's strange that Southern and Poverty are used in the name of this organization however.

You don't see how it could be seen as being an insult to the center's fellow southerners?

Actually is almost criminal it is so racist and is MUCH more so than Half Brownie.

Except to the Left who see it as a victim opp.

If the Southern Poverty Law Center is upset, its probably a good thing and should be encouraged.

More power the progressives think they have more ridiculous and absurd their claims and behavior is. This equation fits like a glove to the hubristic ones.

"The wannabe-clever ad hominem "lefties" who constantly refer to other posters as having their heads up their rectums are so pathetically s-t-u-p-i-d and self-absorbed as to be all but hopelessly beyond spiritual and/or intellectual redemption."

The exact same thing can be said of "righties" here. Those on the left hold no monopoly on corrosive dialogue.

++++++

"PRAGMATIST You are one who is not afraid to disagree with someone, I thank you for being honest, but also I am not afraid to be disagreeable and honest with you, or anyone else, that appears to not be intelligent..."

You're welcome, and thank you.

"...You say you are not warped at all, is that yours or someone else's opinion???"

On what basis do you say I am warped. You started that.

"You say you probably disagree with me on everything, which I seriously doubt..."

Who the hell knows. I certainly take issue with your presentation style. And there's nothing in what you wrote yesterday that I agreed with. But we don't have to agree.

"And you call me dude"

Are you a woman? Is "dude" offensive to you for some other reason?

" and repremind me for writing in CAPS..."

All caps on the Internet is equivalent to shouting. That, combined with the content of what you wrote, led me to conclude you were ranting. And you said some really bizarre, unsupported stuff about President Obama. Opinions are well and good, but presentation and language matter.

"And who informed you my mind was warped???"

See above.

"And who told you I don't have the right to write in caps"

See above. Not about rights.

"OBAMANATION'S NAZI LAW IS NOT REIGNING YET!!!"

Huh? See, that's part of why I said what I said. Nazi? Obama? You do know what the Nazis believe in, right?

++++++

RCade, the name just rubs me the wrong way. Why the inclusion of the word Poverty, or Southern? I don't see a good reason for it. Is there no Poverty or discrimination in the North?

Saying this as a Texan living in Florida, I think you're being oversensitive about the reputation of the South. The group is based in the South and took on poverty as its mission. That doesn't mean that poverty and discrimination don't exist in other regions. Anyone who thinks it doesn't is fooling themselves.

NAZIS = NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY.

Thats what the word/Phrase MEANS despite what you WANT it to mean period. To believe anything else is to live in utter denial. That being said a nut job is nut job, Left or Right it does NOT make then any better than their counter part.

I wonder how many Left wing militants are out running around. I'm thinking ALF, ELF, New Communists Party of America, Black Panthers, and why is that not investigated too to offer us a whole image of extremism in the USA.

Yeah because the Nazis in Germany socialized all industries and ownership was transferred to the state while Hitler sang the praises of Communism.

What??? None of that happened???

Oh, then I guess the word SOCIALIST in that name doesn't mean what the right would love to pretend it means.

On the issue of the US military vs militias.

A few folks have mentioned Iraq and Vietnam.

The Vietcong was butchered by the Tet Offensive and NEVER recovered (South Vietnam was conquored by a Armored Invasion army bigger than the one Germany used to conquor France in 1940, NOT by the vietcong).

As for Iraq, or Afganistan, pacifying is easy if you don't worry about killing non-combatants. "Kill Everyone" works wonders if you don't mind being an honorless thug. It is sometimes refered to as the "Mongol Method" of pacification. (and is THE reason the Mongols had no real problems with the ancient Assassin cult...)

When libtards say shit like this, there should be 2000 militias at the ready:

People will need to turn vegetarian if the world is to conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global warming.

And there are thousands of left-wing militias in America. Except we call them gangs.

Wonder what the respective body counts are? When it comes to gang-banging, nobody's better than a big bunch of inner-city welfare libbies.

I read the Right wingers, "The government is going to enforce Martial Law and kill all those who dont agree with it and Blah blah blah". And all i can think about is all the left wing loons saying the exact same thing when Bush was in office. "He is going to suspend elections and lock up any one who doesnt agree with him and blah blah blah". YOU ALL SOUND THE EXACT SAME LEVEL OF CRAZY ASS STUPID. People it will never happen, because our military will not ever let it happen. Do you really believe american soliders would blindly follow orders and start killing AMERICANS????? Do you believe that our soliders are that stupid???? Show more respect for our fighting men and women and give them a little credit here. They are the defenders of our freedoms, are you saying they are also going to be the ones who will help take it away??? Please pull your heads out of your ass. Thank you.

Nw for Fender

#79 | Posted by ELCIDCE90 - funny thing that - meat has NEVER given anyone gas or diarrhea, but a big bowl of beans or a salad on the other hand...a further attempt at controlling human behavior - what will they do with all the meat once every human is on a veggie diet?

Yeah, civil rights for minoritiesis such a bad thing. but it's nice to see the righties standing shoulder to shoulder with guys who blow up day-cares.

#13 | Posted by northguy3 a

That is what struck me funny about loony contrarian..he attacks an organization that defends against crazy violence.

Probably a member of the compound.

Folks, our IQ is not based on the local population density. It's a given that someone living in SoCal will have a different worldview than someone in, say, northern Montana. That's a good thing; just don't try to make the other side live by your standards. And if you escape that negetive lifestyle, don't bring it with you. Your welcome, LA isn't.

#25 | Posted by Mountain_Mano

Nope.. its a numerical value which is why average is 100 and anything above is smarter and below is dumber..unfortunately 2/3 of the nation is average and dumber. That is a fact.

Check spelling again Preacher man.

YES LEFT WING LEECHES ARE WILLING TO MOOCH OFF THE RIGHT WINGS LABORERS BUT ARE UNWILLING TO WORK FOR THEMSELVES.........
#27 | Posted by Dr_Feelgood

Actually, umm...Blue States pay for the Red States in this country... Sorry dude. Right wing, Wal-mart shopping hicks are taking more from the Feds than they put in. The so called Liberal blue states are paying in more than they receive. Stupid Right Wing Leeches are willing to mooch off the Left Wing Laborers but are unwilling to work for themselves. I think they are too busy joining militias, making babies out of wedlock, and talking about God.

#32 | Posted by Sycophant

..and that is a FACT. Mr Mano is talking about the disenfranchised, well a MAJORITY of the US lives in population centers that are left leaning. The rights base is shrinking every year. Change or disappear.

I dunno. Most of us get a whole lot less from Wall Street than we just put in. What state is Manhattan in again?

Most military bases are in red states, and millions of retirees move from blue states to red ones. The pentagon budget and Social Security and Medicare alone explain this silly blue-state/red-state subsidy you libbies are always railing about. Tell ya what: make it illegal for Social Security to cross state lines, and keep your wrinkly, cranky octogenarians up in Michigan or New York, where they belong. Traffic is bad enough as it is without your sending us more.

I absolutely totally believe there are many rightwingers (including some who post on this site) who would sacrifice everything to be the next McVeigh if that entailed hurting President Obama and the Democratic Party. That is how thick the rightwing hatred and stupidity have become.
#5 | Posted by moder8

I cannot get to the story... it says story not found... I wanted to find out about all those left wing militias that must be out there too!
What? There are NO left wing militias?
hmmmmm
#19 | Posted by donnerboy

Ever notice how these groups always end up losing any conflict they get into.

Yeah..........

Nice to see them making it easier to thin the herd.

Sighhhhhhhhh I wouldn't doubt it a bit.

#1 | Posted by LarryMohr

Why do these wack-o groups appear every time a Liberal get's in office and starts talking about Socialism?

Why do these wack-o groups appear every time a Liberal get's in office and starts talking about Socialism?

#90 | Posted by Eddie

Ummm....because there is a liberal in office talking about socialism?

"And there are thousands of left-wing militias in America. Except we call them gangs."

What the hell are you talking about? The Bloods and the Crips are leftwing organizations? RIR, you get nuttier every day.

Why do these wack-o groups appear every time a Liberal get's in office and starts talking about Socialism?

#90 | Posted by Eddie

Ummm....because there is a liberal in office talking about socialism?

#91 | Posted by STIRSUMUP

FF

The Bloods and the Crips are leftwing organizations? RIR, you get nuttier every day.

#92 | Posted by pragmatist
* * * *

You're right. I'm sure they're just a bunch of disappointed Constitution Party voters. If you polled them, and asked what their thoughts are on Barack Obama, you'll hear that they are concerned about the new debt issuance in the short maturities.

And there are thousands of left-wing militias in America. Except we call them gangs.

Wonder what the respective body counts are? When it comes to gang-banging, nobody's better than a big bunch of inner-city welfare libbies.

#80 | Posted by rightisright

I don't agree. They are anarchist, but morally bad because they still from the welfare system.

#14,16 Northguy

Here's another link:

what a bunch of shit the southern poverty law center is a fucking hate group itself

All I can say is thank the lord we have these militias. We are sure going to need them in the coming holy war!!

Mark Potok at the Southern Poverty Law Center is a moron and the SPLC is a joke and thats coming from a black man. I am sure if you showed up at a Sarah Palin or George W. Bush speech you would be listed in some right-wing extremist list by Potok.

SPLC is has been in the news for months trying to create some conspiracy now that Obama is in the White House. Hey Potok, if America was so increasingly racist, how did a black man become President of the United States?

"Right Wing Militias" =

A bunch of half-retarded Fatties too stupid (or fat) to get into the Military.

For all the the 'Hitler' and Nazi' name calling that the right loves to apply to the left, It seems all of the Neo-Nazi groups are right-wing.

Hey Potok, if America was so increasingly racist, how did a black man become President of the United States?

#99 | Posted by utastaff at 2009-10-27 04:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well, you certainly had nothing to do with it.

"You're right. I'm sure they're just a bunch of disappointed Constitution Party voters. If you polled them, and asked what their thoughts are on Barack Obama, you'll hear that they are concerned about the new debt issuance in the short maturities."

No, I think that they don't give two shits about politics. They're too busy killing each other. And I'd be willing to bet that they see Obama as a pussy turncoat. He's certainly not one of them. But nice jargon.

EEEEEEEKKKKKK!

This crap from a party that had no problem with movies depicting the assasination of George Bush, or books ruminating on the death of George Bush. What incredible silliness from a bankrupt party that is such a far cry from the Democrats of old, when, in fact, I WAS a devoted Democrat, when the party loved this country, supported our troops, believed in free enterprise, liberty for the individual and protection of individual personal property rights. The Dems need to rename the party to the Socialist Party of Democrats, or The New "Progressive" B.S. Marxist Party. Perfect.

Yeah Uhmmm... that was a touch of sarcasm, opening a statement about adding a touch of common sense to this dialogue. Preacher man huh? Nothing like a good argument...

200 Right-Wing Militias?? Maybe if there were two or three times that many, they'd be approaching the number of Extremist Muslim Jihadist groups who're setting up shop all over the country.

You know - the folks indoctrinated from birth to murder.. every "non-believer" on the freaking planet?

JM

This crap from a party that had no problem with movies depicting the assasination of George Bush, or books ruminating on the death of George Bush. What incredible silliness from a bankrupt party that is such a far cry from the Democrats of old, when, in fact, I WAS a devoted Democrat, when the party loved this country, supported our troops, believed in free enterprise, liberty for the individual and protection of individual personal property rights. The Dems need to rename the party to the Socialist Party of Democrats, or The New "Progressive" B.S. Marxist Party. Perfect.

#105 | Posted by Kissntell at 2009-10-27 09:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

Here we have another clown who tries to equate a 400% INCREASE in ACTUAL THREATS to the President with a European made MOVIE.

As for wanting to name the Democratic Party the 'Socialist Party', your fellow RNC retards already tried that.....and failed.

from above...

#21 | Posted by Dr_Feelgood at 2009-10-26 06:47 PM | Reply| Flag: ABUSIVE OVERUSER OF CAPS...

I love people who speak ALL IN CAPS as if what THEY have to SAY is that IMPORTANT or will be HEARD all the MORE, because they use CAPS!

nothing spells STARK RAVING IDEOLOGUE, more than someone that MUST ALWAYS USE CAPS!

(grin) now that I've got that out of my system...

"This crap from a party that had no problem with movies depicting the assasination of George Bush"

I know of only one, and it was a foreign movie. And no, I have no problem with it. Nor would I have a problem with a movie depicting the assassination of Barack Obama. A movie is different from people running around suggesting it, you know, people saying it in print and hinting that it would be a good idea to stop the socialist secret-Muslim (or is he a radical Christian), Kenyan-born usurper.

+++++

"nothing spells STARK RAVING IDEOLOGUE, more than someone that MUST ALWAYS USE CAPS!"

Or just stark-raving, Earthmuse. : ) Just the other day, I pointed that out to someone and he (?) didn't get it. I"m not crazy; you're the one that's crazy! (All I wanted was a Pepsi...)

(All I wanted was a Pepsi...)

...and she wouldn't give it to me!

Excellent use of that lyric, Prag!

You know what, I am going to youtube right now and am going to listen to Institutionalized.

I could use a little Suicidal this a.m.

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With God On Our Side

Oh my name it is nothin'
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I's taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And that land that I live in
Has God on its side.

Oh the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh the country was young
With God on its side.

Oh the Spanish-American
War had its day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I's made to memorize
With guns in their hands
And God on their side.

Oh the First World War, boys
It closed out its fate
The reason for fighting
I never got straight
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead
When God's on your side.

When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.

I've learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war starts
It's them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.

But now we got weapons
Of the chemical dust
If fire them we're forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.

In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.

So now as I'm leavin'
I'm weary as Hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
Ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God's on our side
He'll stop the next war.

Copyright 1963; renewed 1991 Special Rider Music

200 Right Wing Militias across US? Almost as many militias in US as gangs in LA....

"Excellent use of that lyric, Prag!"

Thank you. (bows)

Easy to see why some folks would be badmouthing the center, just by looking at what it does and has done.

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Slick,

When did LA gangs attack our US government?

This crap from a party that had no problem with movies depicting the assasination of George Bush, or books ruminating on the death of George Bush.

#105 | Posted by Kissntell

...You don't find progressives and liberals assassinating Republicans, stocking up on guns to oppose the Feds, etc. While I don't condone the movie, it must be said that only the right (or parts thereof) seems to condone violence and assassinations.

This crap from a party that had no problem with movies depicting the assasination of George Bush, or books ruminating on the death of George Bush.

#105 | Posted by Kissntell

I would be interested in seeing the link(s) showing how Democrats use the tactics of hate and fear to "consolidate and rile the base" like the Rethugs typically do. The Dems never had anything to do with any of that crap you just made up. Yes there was a lot of venom for Bush and his policies. But, I too, do not recall any violent language against Bush like we hear today against Obama. The Iraqi Shoe Thrower was the most "violent" thing to ever happen to Bush for his crimes, well, except that projectile vomiting he had over there in Japan.

Bush & Company, and especially Karl Rove, have created a number of wedge issues. These are basically hate issues. Whether it is gay marriage, abortion, or affirmative action, and the subtle and not so subtle hatred of all Muslims, these issues are designed to consolidate the base of the Republican Party by generating the energy of hate. The strategy is to focus on the most vulnerable, generate hate, and then generalize from that group. In the 2004 campaign, it was homophobia. But the tactic has a long and nefarious history. In the 1920's and 1930's, the Negro community was the focus of hatred and the right wing could then bring in hatred for Jews and Catholics. It is a tried and worn tactic.

The anger, outrage and disgust at the war crimes, the racism, the male supremacy, the homophobia, the thievery, the arrogance, the lies of this administration has and will create a tremendous, disciplined constituency...

Republicans are Professionals at creating wedge issues based on MISINFORMATION that generate hate and fear that ripples throughout the population creating these extremist organizations.

Funny how you just don't see the same kind of Rage and Hate on the "left" as you do on the so-called Christian "right".

The worst organization I can think of is Earth First or maybe ELF. And did they actually cause ANY deaths during the Bush Administration? Another "left wing" organization I can think of is Greenpeace...well, I don't think they even believe in carrying guns!

A hard core member of Greenpeace would use his own body as a weapon before he would use a gun or a bomb.

I would be interested in joining any militia groups in NY/NJ that work to out CARE as the terrorist organization that they are.

Tim have you found a girlfriend yet??

I wonder where this Mr. Potok would feel safer--passing through rural Montana or Indiana where there are some of these groups operating? Or having his car break down in inner-city Detroit? Memphis? Miami? LA? Houston? New Orleans? Chicago? St. Louis?

Just askin'. When it comes to piling up corpses, nobody's better than a bunch of urban Obama voters.

My wife is pregnant asshole but thanks for being a little wiseass.

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That would depend on what COLOR his family was, eh genius?

My wife is pregnant asshole but thanks for being a little wiseass.

#124 | POSTED BY TIMBCI

By You?

When it comes to piling up corpses, nobody's better than a bunch of urban Obama voters.

Except for when a white-trash repug blows up a federal building.

"If it's of any comfort to the Liberals it would probably be the same story if the Sacrosanct One's fraternal twin McCain had had won."

Nice deflection, Gimme.

There hasn't been a president so disliked as Bush, as far back as I can remember....and yet the democrats weren't forming "patriot groups".

People are getting waaaaay to carried away with this nonsense. It's going to turn into something very dangerous unless people start coming to their senses.

"My wife is pregnant"

Hey...congrats, Tim!!!

Best wishes to you and your wife.

Sorry Jackass. I am not insecure about my marriage. Have fun playing with someone else.

Obama thank you for my bonus. Screw the Middle Class. That is code for uneducated, unskilled, and shit out od luck.

Bush should have put ANSWER on the terrorist watch list

Except for when a white-trash repug blows up a federal building.

#127 | Posted by reinheitsgebot
* * * *

I know. 170 people died that day. Awful.

Right-wing nutjobs need a rented van and a whole lot of fertilizer to do what our country's gang-bangers turn in every weekend or so.

Obama thank you for my bonus. Screw the Middle Class. That is code for uneducated, unskilled, and shit out od luck.

#130 | POSTED BY TIMBCI

Wow Lisa, You give best wishes to a guy who is so shallow he would post this?? You should choose more wisely who you associate with.

The City of NY recently was exposed as giving one gang over $500,000 in civil court settlements. If you are born in the ghetto you are better off joining a gang than going to school

When did LA gangs attack our US government?
#118 | POSTED BY WOKE AT 2009-10-28 12:38 PM

Right-wing nutjobs need a rented van and a whole lot of fertilizer to do what our country's gang-bangers turn in every weekend or so.
#132 | POSTED BY RIGHTISRIGHT AT 2009-10-28 02:50 PM

should be easy for you to post one iota of fact with a link to that assertion then, eh?

LMFAO

CARE is a terrorist organization

"The City of NY recently was exposed as giving one gang over $500,000 in civil court settlements. If you are born in the ghetto you are better off joining a gang than going to school"

Here in LA the Supervisors give them money to recruit and buy more guns...

should be easy for you to post one iota of fact with a link to that assertion then, eh?

LMFAO

#135 | Posted by woke
* * * *

Or, you can Google it yourself, you lazy turd. Chicago alone racks up 10 homicides a week.

Or are you one of those guys who thinks that as long as it's blacks killing other blacks, it doesn't really count?

Or are you one of those guys who thinks...

Woke think? He thinks as much as the OJ jury did?

Years back, the SPLC was known for having a huge bank account ($40+ million, if memory serves), a poorly paid group of staffers and a handful of folks at the top making big bucks. They'd send out beg notices asking for desperately needed contributions ... in addition to some of their slanted news releases. Not a reliable and credible source of info.

CARE is a terrorist organization

#136 | POSTED BY TIMBCI AT 2009-10-28 03:02 PM |

If you are going to accuse it of something at least get the acronym right.
CAIR

Crispee - there seems to be another side to that story. I do not see where the Alex Sanchez link is.

And the link to the original story in this thread is still broken....

Comparing homicides in the cities to a right wing terrorist blowing up innocent men, women and children in a federal building.

Yeah, that makes you seem intelligent.

NOT!

"In April, the Department of Homeland Security sent a warning to law enforcement agencies that right-wing extremist groups may be exploiting worries spawned by the economic downturn and Obama's election as recruiting tools, noting that as anti-government sentiment builds, militia movements were "likely to grow in strength."

The above is from the first paragraph in the article. Now let's fix it.

"In April, the Department of Homeland Security sent a warning to law enforcement agencies that groups may be spawned by the economic downturn and Obama's election. Noting that as anti-government sentiment builds, militia movements were "likely to grow in strength."

Much better and so much closer to the truth. Don't you think?

rw revisionist history starting already?

maybe that's why lilaWol/hallichainy said they'd wait to be judged by history.....

rw revisionist history, eh?

There hasn't been a president so disliked as Bush, as far back as I can remember....and yet the democrats weren't forming "patriot groups".

People are getting waaaaay to carried away with this nonsense. It's going to turn into something very dangerous unless people start coming to their senses.

#128 | Posted by Lisa

Democrats forming "patriot groups"? Now there's an oxymoron. Patriot groups have been forming since at least Reagan both the Dems and Repubs have been out of touch with American principles for years.

I hope more people come to their senses and join such groups so the lords of Washington on both sides of the aisle start to realize people are fed up and change their ways to better represent true American ideals.

#147

Oh please!!!

You're the one who stated that the dems would have done this had McCain been elected, now you're saying it's an oxymoron.

And don't try and hide your partisanship behind the "both sides of the aisle" comment.

I know you better than that!

I didn't say the Dems would have done this if McCain was elected I was saying the BS would be as deep with McCain as 0bama. The Dems don't have the balls to form militia groups. Shit even if Palin is elected in 2012 (not a bad idea at this point) the Dems will just bitch and moan

"if Palin is elected in 2012 (not a bad idea at this point)"

Not a bad idea?!?

Good God, GAS, you're even more addled than I thought. Exactly what do you see positive in that moron?

This is your quote on a thread about militia groups:

"If it's of any comfort to the Liberals it would probably be the same story if the Sacrosanct One's fraternal twin McCain had had won."

Don't try and back pedal.

"even if Palin is elected in 2012 (not a bad idea at this point)"

Oh wait. Gimme_A was the author of that original post from which I quoted.

Sarah! Hey, Sarah! Yeah, YOU! Mrs. Palin! Divorce Todd, and we have an eligible bachelor for you right here!

He posts under the handle "Gimme_A_Scotch" on drudge.com, and is always harassing our female posters for a date.......or at least some attention!

Really. Pay attention to him. Please?

At least so he'll stop posting for a little bit...

The SPLC and ADL could operate far more effectively if only the 1st and 2nd amendments were deleted.

Don't you have a crocheting blog to attend to AND a pastrami on rye to make for moi Missy?

Sorry Zarathustra I have no romantic designs on Palin but a lotta Libs here on the DR seem to.

And Danforth stop going with the standard Lib line that Palin isn't qualified to be Prez when you're still defending 0bama the joke who's nothing but a horror show for America's future

I found this an interesting read on the SPLC.. It should be highly concerning.

The SPLC has been criticized by civil rights writer Laird Wilcox for essentially functioning as a private intelligence gathering agency for the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other law enforcement agencies, doing activities as a private organization that public law enforcement agencies are barred by law from doing (such as keeping dossiers on people solely because of their political or religious views) because for a government agency to do them would be a violation of civil rights. Wilcox points out the dangers of the FBI and other law enforcement working with ideologically-driven groups like the SPLC, which has its roots in 1960s radical liberal activism, because of the danger this poses that the SPLC's own ideological differences with another group can be treated as a law enforcement issue rather than as an ideological dispute between a left-wing group (the SPLC) and a group on the right. This can, and has, led to attacks on such groups' freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.[17]

Indeed, the SPLC has a history of adding groups to its listing of purported "hate groups" in advance of a government law enforcement campaign against them. The SPLC inexplicably added the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints (FLDS) to its "hate groups" list just before FLDS leader Warren Jeffs was indicted on charges of arranging polygamous underage marriages. The timing of this listing by SPLC was suspicious, as is the accuracy of calling FLDS a "hate group" to begin with, any controversy over their polygamous practices notwithstanding.

"Sorry Zarathustra I have no romantic designs on Palin but a lotta Libs here on the DR seem to."

99% of women who've had that many babies know the face may look good, but the tummy's a giggly world topography map.

And Danforth stop going with the standard Lib line that Palin isn't qualified to be Prez when you're still defending 0bama the joke who's nothing but a horror show for America's future

Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch at 2009-10-28 10:13 PM | Reply

When You quit the Governorship halfway in between Your first term how could You expect to be qualified to be President of the United States. Sorry She isn't even qualified to be PTA President much less POTUS. She may be an OK person IN person I'd trust RCADE to do brain surgery on Me before I'd trust Sarah Palin to run this grand nation of ours. Oh and Obama is more than qualified to be President of the United States. But do carry on with Your delusional self GAS.

Larry

#155 | Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch

Drank too much scotch. Wetbrain's setting in. Obvious.

Obama is more than qualified to be President of the United States.

#158 | Posted by LarryMohr

You have no idea how much it will warm the cockles of my heart to hear you eat those words and I guarantee that you will well before the 2012 election Larry

#156 robson

The SPLC inexplicably added the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints (FLDS) to its "hate groups" list just before FLDS leader Warren Jeffs was indicted on charges of arranging polygamous underage marriages. The timing of this listing by SPLC was suspicious, as is the accuracy of calling FLDS a "hate group" to begin with,

Interesting enough, what has never been answered is who the anonymous "Sarah" was that made the anonymous tip. The judge never pressed for the identity.

Purely speculation, of course, but they're history certainly doesn't rule out the possibility.

99% of women who've had that many babies know the face may look good, but the tummy's a giggly world topography map.

#157 | Posted by Timex at 2009-10-28 10:16 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose) Got A Woody Thinking About Sarah Palin While Typing That

Very few Presidents who sought a 2nd term didn't win.

You'll be eating crow come November 2012. Who CAN the Republicans run? Their image is in the shitter. We know they act diametrically to their rhetoric (fancy for 'they lie'), and left this country in a huge mess. You think people are going to forget in 4 years. HA HA HA HA HA Scotch talking.

*their

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

There you go.

And who says the 50 new patriot or militia groups are Right-Wing Hate groups? I'm guessing most of those boys just hate the government, no matter who is POTUS.

#162 | Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch

Hey, if giggly wrinkled and saggy breasts are your thing go for it. She might love Ketone breath and alcohol related sexual disfunction for all you know. :)

wrinkled stomachs and saggy breasts that look like a river delta system ....

"Danforth stop going with the standard Lib line that Palin isn't qualified to be Prez"

Good God, GAS, you're more addled than I ever imagined.

Exactly how is she qualified? Interesting you didn't have any answers, and avoided answering the question directly. Something? Anything? Why on earth do you see her as a potential candidate for the most powerful position on the planet?

You'll be eating crow come November 2012. Who CAN the Republicans run?

#163 | Posted by Timex

Well Trig Palin for one since the Sacrosanct One's power base will be so infinitesimal by then. Course the Dems MIGHT be able to interest Mike Gravel in returning to the Donkey fold for a slight chance of winning

And who says the 50 new patriot or militia groups are Right-Wing Hate groups? I'm guessing most of those boys just hate the government, no matter who is POTUS.

#165 | POSTED BY BEACHBUZZ AT 2009-10-28 10:43 PM

Uh, read the article?

and then these