Let's hear all those against gay rights holler about Christian rights. I am betting that most of those against including gays in hate crime legislation, giving them equal rights to all other Americans, want special rights for this guy and all other Christians.

I actually do not believe in any special rights for gays, Christians, women, Blacks, Latinos.....rights should be neutral, buffalo chip.

actually do not believe in any special rights for gays, Christians...

So you'll be advising yer church to give up it's tax free status next Sunday then?

Good fer you.

And it should be noted that Diablo not only does believe in special rights for religions but he's also deeply committed to no rights for gays.

On Topic?

An employer should be able to tell any employee not to wear a button at werk.

Firing a guy fer bringing a bible to werk is st00pid but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

FTA: That's when I was told it had to come off, or I would be sent home. So they sent me home for six straight days without pay. And then today they terminated me," he said.

Sounds like he refused to take the button off when his employer told him to preferring to go the "burning martyr" route rather than just complying to his employers simple and legitimate request.

Some Christians just luff to play the Martyr Card.

This guy seems to be one such.

Be Well.

It's a disgrace that people can not express their religious beliefs in this way. Unfortunately Home Depot has the right to dictate it not be on it's business but it just is sad to think one has to hide their beliefs from others.

Larry

I actually do not believe in any special rights for gays, Christians, women, Blacks, Latinos.....rights should be neutral, buffalo chip.

#2 | Posted by Diablo at 2009-10-24 02:37 AM | Reply | Flag

LOL---and people shouild be able to fly. Neutrality is impossible, especially for a numbskull like yourself. You prove it with your name calling. You are as neutral in your concepts as the KKK---and you ask others to be neutral---again---LOL.

It's a disgrace that people can not express their religious beliefs in this way. Unfortunately Home Depot has the right to dictate it not be on it's business but it just is sad to think one has to hide their beliefs from others.

Larry

#4 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-24 02:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah--too bad he can't bleat his bullshit and force others to listen to it 24hrs a day--right Larry?

I consider it an insult to the flag to associate it with any religion. It insults the concept of Liberty and Justice FOR ALL.

If You really and truly believe in Liberty and justice for ALL then You would have to support this dude's right of Liberty to express His religious beliefs 24/7

Larry

Oh and He wasn't forcing people to listen to His religious beliefs 24/7. All He was doing was wearing a button and carrying around a Bible for pete sake. How is this bleating??

Larry

If You really and truly believe in Liberty and justice for ALL then You would have to support this dude's right of Liberty to express His religious beliefs 24/7

You can't wear wotever you want at work.

Should a Satanist be able to show up to work at Home Depot with a "Hail Satan" button on and not expect to get hassled?

Should an athiest be allowed to wear a button that makes fun of religious beliefs cos that's wot he or she might believe?

This guy is a grandstander, a Christian attention whore deliberately playing the martyr card.

Home Depot were right to fire him.

Be Well.

Should a Satanist be able to show up to work at Home Depot with a "Hail Satan" button on and not expect to get hassled?

Should an athiest be allowed to wear a button that makes fun of religious beliefs cos that's wot he or she might believe?

#9 | Posted by dethspud at 2009-10-24 03:13 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Yes Sir in Doubletick. I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with it Spud I really don't. Oh and I already acknowledged Home Depot had a right to fire Him I just think it's a bullshit reason to do so.

Larry

The pin wearing seems inoffensive.

But the Bible is quite a different matter. Home Depot is in business to sell hardware . . . it's not a platform for a cashier's personal beliefs.

Neutral is the name of the game when you're doing business with the public.

They were right to send this guy packing. He was insubordinate to his superiors. Or, as "Murphy's Law" says . . . The guy with the gold makes the rules.

But the Bible is quite a different matter.

Bringing a book to work to read over lunch or on a break is no BFD.

Whether it's the Bible or My Pet Goat shouldn't matter.

Yes Sir in Doubletick. I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with it Spud I really don't. Oh and I already acknowledged Home Depot had a right to fire Him I just think it's a bullshit reason to do so.

Firing him fer wearing the button woulda been stupid.

Firing him fer refusing to take it off when asked isn't.

That just makes this guy seem stupid.

Be Well.

You would have to support this dude's right of Liberty to express His religious beliefs 24/7

Larry

#7 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-24 03:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

I do support that right--so does Home Depot--now he can do it all he wants--as long as it is out of my hearing and viewing.

Oh and He wasn't forcing people to listen to His religious beliefs 24/7. All He was doing was wearing a button and carrying around a Bible for pete sake. How is this bleating??

Larry

#8 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-24 03:08 AM | Reply | Flag

If you don't know, nothing I say will ever clear it up for you. You don't have to open your mouth to tell other people how holy you are and what sinners they are. You can bleat without saying a word.

Yes Sir in Doubletick. I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with it Spud I really don't.

Larry

#10 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-24 03:18 AM | Reply | Flag

Then you are a fool. Insulting other peoples religion is rude.

Then you are a fool. Insulting other peoples religion is rude.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-10-24 03:42 AM | Reply

So may be BO(Body Odor) but I don't go around telling people they stink.

Larry

bleat  /blit/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [bleet] Show IPA
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verb (used without object) 1. to utter the cry of a sheep, goat, or calf or a sound resembling such a cry.

verb (used with object) 2. to give forth with or as if with a bleat: He bleated his objections in a helpless rage.
3. to babble; prate.

noun 4. the cry of a sheep, goat, or calf.
5. any similar sound: the bleat of distant horns.
6. foolish, complaining talk; babble: I listened to their inane bleat all evening.

A Button doesn't bleat it makes no sound. If You hear a button say something to You You may want to check Yourself into belleveu cause You crazy.

Larry

The article doesn't say exactly what this guy was doing with his Bible.

But whatever it was, I'd have to guess that they received a complaint or two from some customers. Which does away with the theory that he was only reading it in the break room.

Or one of His Co Workers had a shit fit and complained about it. You know just to be mean spirited.

You could be right, too, LARRY

If , , , IF, he was reading out loud and using the opportunity to preach to them.

I know I'd object if I was on break and trying to relax.

Maybe he was trying to turn a lunchbreak into a prayer meeting.

Who knows.

So may be BO(Body Odor) but I don't go around telling people they stink.

Larry

#16 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-24 03:44 AM | Reply | Flag

If you are around someone with BO, you should bring it to their attention--they may not be aware. However, I doubt you have the tact to bring it to their attention without using the word "stink".

Hard telling TwinPac. At least that one Restaurant owner applauded His stance. Kudos to Him.

Larry

So I am supposed to tell someone who stinks that they stink without using the word stink?? What should I do throw a box of handsoap in their shopping basket instead??

Larry

A Button doesn't bleat it makes no sound. If You hear a button say something to You You may want to check Yourself into belleveu cause You crazy.

Larry

#17 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-24 03:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

If you don't think buttons say something--you can't read. It doesn't have to be audible to say something. If someone stabs you in the heart---do you think they made a statement? Probably not.

So I am supposed to tell someone who stinks that they stink without using the word stink?? What should I do throw a box of handsoap in their shopping basket instead??

Larry

#23 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-24 04:09 AM | Reply | Flag

Why do you insist on proving my point about your lack of tact and verbal skills?? How about this.

Larry, you may not be aware of it, but your deoderant is letting you down about halfway through the day, and people are starting to talk. I just mention it because you are a good guy, and I wouldn't want to see something so easily corrected damage your career.

LARRY

" At least that one Restaurant owner applauded His stance."

One does not a majority make.

And this wasn't about the pin. He wore it for 19 months without any complaints.

This tells me that he was talking to the public openly about his religious beliefs.

That's a great big NO-NO in the business world.

I think You are making a huge assumption TwinPac. How do You glean that from the information provided??

Larry

LARRY

Assumptions are all we have. The article didn't give us much to go on.

But I agree . . . There's always "the rest of the story."

BTW . . . I wonder if the restaurant owner would hire a waitress wesring a burka.

???

Why beat around a bush about it Buffalo Bob. If I stink I stink and You should tell Me I stink. No harm no foul.

I dunno TwinPac but if She was in a G String and Bra I'd hire Her in a heartbeat.

Larry

How do You glean that from the information provided??

Larry

#27 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-24 04:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

He just told you--he wore the button for 19 months with no problems---something changed dramatically to bring the heat. Speaking out and carrying a bible around is a logical conclusion. Doing such things is a sign of whackos that may be a threat to their fellow workers. How many religious freaks carrying bibles around and preaching the Word have ended up in killing sprees.

Now Buffalo Bob has officially jumped the shark

A lot of religious wackos hear voices, that's true.

But Larry is right. In this case, "killing sprees" is way overboard.

BTW LARRY

"I dunno TwinPac but if She was in a G String and Bra I'd hire Her in a heartbeat."

Under a burka?

There's something wrong with that mental image, Larry.

Do you know what it is?

No whats disturbing about it TwinPac??

Now Buffalo Bob has officially jumped the shark

#32 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-24 04:33 AM | Reply |

Now Larry Mohr has set a new record for dumbass remarks with no point.

I guess you've never heard of religious freaks killing people.

LARRY

What you said isn't offensive . . . just impossible.

I'm not in a location right now to post a link.

Please Google Image "burka".

Then tell me how you'd know if she was wearing a G-string and a bra before you hired this waitress in question.

Ummmmmm there would be NO Burka on Duh Just a G String and Bra.

LARRY

Nevermind.

Somewhere along the line you missed the point of the original question.

"I wonder if the restaurant owner would hire a waitress wearing a burka?"

Him being such a defender of individual liberty in the work place and all that.

That would be a work safety hazard TwinPac. All that loose clothing and all. Would have NOTHING to do with free excersizing of Her religious beliefs.

Larry

This is always worth posting once in a while.

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

LARRY

That would be a work safety hazard

That's probably what the restaurant owner would say.

But she would say she should be allowed to express her personal liberty in the workplace.

A lot of the restaurant owner's customers might quietly start patronizing another restaurant . . . but he wouldn't really mind, would he?

He being the defender of personal liberties in the work place and all that.

What's the loss of a few cash customers to a business that operates on a narrow profit margin. No sacrifice should be too great . . . or should it?

Reading the article it's pretty clear this guy wasn't interested in supporting the Troops as much as he was about proselytizing. Home Depot gave him options on approved buttons that support the Military (FTA):

Fishel says Home Depot has a "proud history" of supporting the military, and that it sanctions several of its own buttons for employees to wear, including one that reads: "United We Stand."

Keezer said he preferred to wear his button because "you can't have country without God. Every pin they showed me had no God' on it or anything."

But Keezer says, "It never crossed my mind to take off the button because I'm standing for something that's bigger than I am. They kept telling me the severity of what you're doing and I just let God be in control and went with His plan.

"I want to be a voice for the rest of the Christians and for the citizens of this country to stand up for the country. You know, quit being told to sit down. Say what you want to say and don't be afraid of the consequences," "

Apparently "god's plan" doesn't include him working at Home Depot.

YAV

Apparently "god's plan" doesn't include him working at Home Depot.

Or anyplace else either . . . well, maybe the local car wash.

Local war wash?

In Okeechobee?

I take that back. I've been there.

Home Depot's policy prevents the company from being in the position of deciding which political buttons are OK and which ones aren't. It's a reasonable policy, and this cashier was given plenty of warning before being fired.

A worker who refuses to follow the rules of a company needs to find another job or try to get the policy changed. Simply breaking the rule -- and playing the "God's plan" card to justify your actions -- is obnoxious.

Thank you rcade.

Hahahahahaha. Good!
There should be no changes to the company uniform.

The phrase UNDER GOD was added to the pledge for political reasons and was NOT part of the original pledge as authored.

The author who WAS a man of God did not want the pledge to be politicized for just such a reason as this.

Sorry this guy had to get fired but he is a dupe with a cause and he had to go!

What you said isn't offensive . . . just impossible.

For Twinpac and Larry...

I just let God be in control and went with His plan.

"His Plan" got you fired, dude.

Maybe Gods plan is for this guy to be homeless because he can't pay his bills.

And if that is in God's plan so be it. All things work together for good to those who love God.

#44 RCADE.

I agree with you. And I trust you'd feel the same way if a person had some sort of gay designation on their shirt or elsewhere.

As long as the company policy is applied evenly... I have no problem with this at all.

This thread reminds me of the benefits of school uniforms. Seems we see so many attention whores in the news. Students are there to learn. Employees are there to work.

A worker who refuses to follow the rules of a company needs to find another job or try to get the policy changed. Simply breaking the rule -- and playing the "God's plan" card to justify your actions -- is obnoxious.

Agreed.

When you go to work for a private corporation, you leave your First Amendment rights at the door. Pretty neat, huh?

"One nation under God" is NOT "indivisible". It is EXTREMELY DEVISIVE.

Company policy is company policy. As long as it is enforced the same for all employee's then Home Depot was correct in it's action.

The employee can wear his button/stick up until he puts on his uniform. Take it off and put it back on when you leave. You should not be able to use a stage as is Home Depot to support and advertise your beliefs while on their pay clock. Come back to Home Depot on your day off and wear it as much as you want.

When you go to work for a private corporation, you leave your First Amendment rights at the door. Pretty neat, huh?

#54 | Posted by spectator at 2009-10-24 10:22 AM

When you put that button or stick on a Home Depot vest or uniform then you are making it seem as Home Depot supports your point of view. That has nothing to do with First Admendment rights.

It get's tiring from all these different groups whining that they should be able to say/do what ever they want when and where ever they want.

Go to work and do your job and shut up. There are millions of unemployeed workers right now that would love to have that job. Once you are on your own time, do whatever you want. Go hold a rally if that floats your boat.

These people need to take some responsibility for themselves.

Well said, T Man...I'm sure there are hundreds of unemployed people who would love to take his place...wih no button.

WELL GOOD

I mean those christians roaming around home depot get on my nerves.....

uh...bob and others..thats a joke..you see..

ah but another step into

OBAMAS AMERICA

"One nation under God" is NOT "indivisible". It is EXTREMELY DEVISIVE.

Yet it is spoken every day in public schools... Go figure. Seeing as the pledge is made looking at the flag, are flag pins open game at any business?

How can this possibly help HD by firing this employee???

I think it is funny that everyone causes a big deal about the button saying "One nation under God, indivisible"

Even though the man may have claimed to be a "christian" the button does not communicate the "Christian" God. It communicates the concept of God, however much of the world that has gotten fed up with the world seem to be incapable of reasoning through the subjective meaning of the "christian" God in the statement "under God" and seeing the objective meaning of a non specific God. That can be uniting for all people.

Either way, the button was not a good reason to fire, and as Larry said stupid.

If the man was preaching and teaching, and prophesying and lying and leading Bible studies with his breaktime buddies then this is a problem. He does not have to do that, he can do that in private. He can read to himself and not speak to anyone else about it. If they ask him about it, he can talk about it openly.'

However, even if he talked about it openly, in the event that someone who didn't want to hear it heard it, they would complain and then there would be an issue made, because we know the minority always gets right over the majority, even when they are complaining about something completely stupid.

In this case it would not be far fetched to imagine them asking him to take off the button:
1. Not because he was preaching and trying to converet poeple
2. Not because he was having customers listen to his explanation of the Bible
3. Not because he forced anything on someone who didn't want to hear
4. Because someone was a child and gets offended at something that they don't even believe exists, or is different from what they believe.

In this case it would be stupid for Home Depot to let it go for a period of time and then all of a sudden because one person was childlishly offended, they make the guy not wear the button (which may not have been causing any problem previously) and not allow him to bring the Bible in anymore, or speak about it.

I am not saying this could happen, however I am brining it up as another option to the possibilities, and this would be a stupid course of events in which one child complains about something that wasn't even directed towards them because their other co-worker had a right to ask this man about his beliefs and this man explained it to this co-worker and a child heard it and cried... no bleated his objection.

Either way, I don't have a problem with them saying he can't wear the button. He should have obeyed the authorities in Home Depot as he can still worship God and praise God without the button or the Bible at work.

I do have a problem that for some reason it was ok for a while and then not ok because of some incident that happened which may or may not have been a good reason.

If these companies are going to have these rules, they should enforce them from day one, and stop these things from happening. In America we have a big problem with being unablet to enforce the laws and rules that we have set up here.

It communicates the concept of God, however much of the world that has gotten fed up with the world seem to be incapable of reasoning through the subjective meaning of the "christian" God in the statement "under God" and seeing the objective meaning of a non specific God. That can be uniting for all people.

Except atheists. I can live with the arcane and nonspecific references to God and a Creator in the Constitution and Declaration of Independance. The rhetorical role of the divine in these documents is to create an unassailable (you can't prove it wrong) basis for the legitimacy of a democratic nation and establish the equality of all. Actually, all whites with penises, but that's another matter. The point is that the presence of a nondenominational "God" in the Constitution does not impact the secular identity of this nation and it has historical value as well.

I take issue with "under god" because it has no historical relevance. It was added to the pledge amid Cold War paranoia and disgust with the "godless" Soviet Union. These two words conceal three great lies. First, they imply that the despotism of the Soviet Union originated from systematic "godlessness" rather than the paranoia and political ideology of a totalitarian regime. Second, it insinuates that this is a religious nation despite the fact that its citizens certainly do not share belief in any given deity. We have everything from Atheists to Zoroastrians. Finally, it presumes that to be a loyal citizen you must believe in God. That's simply retarded.

So yes, I take issue with the continued presence of those words in our pledge of allegiance and anyone who believes in them. They should be removed from the pledge, if only to give Rush Limbaugh a fatal stroke.

If you let someone wear the "One nation under god" button, do you let someone else wear a button that says "You can be good without god"? What if it says "One nation under god, the merciful and compassionate..." in that terroristy-lookin' writing that reads backwards? What if a button has a blatantly political theme... "Impeach Bush" or "Liberals are Traitors"? Do you think this would be good for the work environment or enticing to customers? The line between the acceptable and the offensive would be hard for a manager to draw on a case-by-case basis without being accused of bias. You have to prohibit all of them to be fair.

This employee knew about the rule, was asked to remove the button, and refused. Fire his punk ass. I don't buy the "standing up for my faith" defense for a second. He's under no religious obligation to wear pins with religious/patriotic slogans.

I do have a problem that for some reason it was ok for a while and then not ok because of some incident that happened which may or may not have been a good reason.

If I had to guess, I would say the manager got a complaint from somebody. Maybe some diehard atheist customer. Maybe a jealous co-worker who was once told he or she couldn't wear a button. Who knows. It's my experience that these sorts of things are generally ignored until someone fusses about them, and then the rules are enforced.

And if it was a gay rights button bOoB would be right here defending him.

I think that the last point you shared is the biggest problem. This is why there is such a big fuss about things. We cater to peoples needs thus making them think that they are justified in being offended by everything.

In regard to your first point, I think people should be able to wear those things. People need to get less offended by things. If it is not true, don't worry about it. If it is true, accept it, and get over it.

That is how American's and intellegent people should live their lives. Don't worry about what people are saying if it's not true. Change what is wrong if what they are saying is true.

There is no need to get all defensive about everything. No need to flip out, no need to cry, complain, yell, scream, kick, punch, bite, pull, push, throw, commit suicide, kill, mame, burn, shoot, crush, chop, incinerate, evaporate, exasperrate, et al. when something is not true.

People want rationality and logic thought and living, however they then suppor this illogical and irational course of thought that we have a right to be offended about everything that is not how we want it.

Live by what is true, when someone says something, evaluate it, if it is not true, don't complain about it, ignore it, or correct them without flipping out. If it is true, adjust, change to it and live your life.

It is that simple. No need to get offended.

I know we don't live in this culture, and this guy, as I have said, was fired justly for not taking off the pin. It did not in any way inhibit his practice of faith. They cannot control what you think, or feel. He was trying to make a point that he did not have to make.

It is the same thing I have been saying for the past week

Subjective - people are going to get it wrong
Objective - you can't change it no matter what you believe or feel, or think or wish.

I complain when staff says Merry xmas to me. I don't want to see or hear about Christianity if all possible.

I suggest all those unhappy with Home Depot let Bernie Marcus know about it.

Anybody remember what he said before last years election?

"If a retailer has not gotten involved with this, if he has not spent money on this election, if he has not sent money to Norm Coleman and these other guys," Mr. Marcus said, apparently referring to Republican senators facing tough re-election fights, then those retailers "should be shot; should be thrown out of their goddamn jobs."

Don't pray in my Home Depot and I won't demonstrate how to tile a kitchen floor in your church.

Keezer said, "It never crossed my mind to take off the button because I'm standing for something that's bigger than I am. They kept telling me the severity of what you're doing and I just let God be in control and went with His plan."

Apparently, God's plan is to have this clown stand in the unemployment line.

If You really and truly believe in Liberty and justice for ALL then You would have to support this dude's right of Liberty to express His religious beliefs 24/7

Larry

#7 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-24 03:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

But Larry, where does it stop.

(To use a common republican LEAP of the imagination)...

....Soon you'll have to let pedophiles where their pin to work!!

...and then you'll have to let necrophiliacs where their pin!!

Home Depot had a policy in place that forbids these types of things. He chose to ignore the rules, even after being reminded, and got what was naturally coming to him.

And if it was a gay rights button bOoB would be right here defending him.

#64 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-10-24 11:54 AM | Reply | Flag

Not at all. There are times and places for everything. Work is for work---it isn't your time---you have sold your time to your employer, and that time belongs to who you are working for. Apparently, you find all times and places valid for proving your ignorance and stupidity.

#69 | Posted by silver_ironist at 2009-10-24 01:28 PM | Reply | Flag: Funny

Particularly since, for 3 years, I was the guy giving those same demonstrations every Sat morning.

Home Depot...worst job I've ever had.

I'm no fan of Home Depot, but they're in the right here. Your personal views have no place in serving the public. Your campaign buttons, lapel ribbons for this cause or that, as well as your religious stuff, belong at home or in places where other like-minded people congregate.

My own pet peeve is store employees who say, "Have a blessed day." I always tell them, "If you want to preach, start a church - I didn't come here for that."

They usually look at me like I just landed from Mars - it evidently never occurred to them that they're imposing on their employer's customers by inflicting their religious views on them. I've only been talked back to twice, and both times, I made good and damn sure both a store manager and corporate heard my displeasure.

Man I'll tell you what, people sure do get offended when someone mentions something that doesn't exist to them.

That is a little screwed up.
Just because someone says "have a blessed day" does not mean they are going to convert you, or try to convert you. To be angry with them because of that is ridiculous, childish and foolish.

Just get over it. If you don't believe it, what does it matter?

Is "have a blessed day" a Christian greeting? I thought it sounded Wiccan/Pagan.

What happened to "good day" or "have a nice day"?

In my case, no words are exchanged... I snarl at bag-boy and I leave.

...and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!,

Great post Ray, but trees are now ETHNIC GROUPS? Is this some kind of tree-hugging, climate change thing?

One nation under God" is NOT "indivisible"

It is indivisible!

You can't divide by zero.

There is no issue here, he broke company policy.

In my restaurant I say; what you wear and how you wear it, your hairstyle and length, every word you say to a guest, jewelry, shoes, facial hair, how much make-up, proper undergarments, how you tie your apron, what pen you leave on the table with a check, everything.

You agree to these conditions or leave!

When I was an employee I signed and agreed to the same codes of conduct and uniform standards.

actually do not believe in any special rights for gays, Christians...

So you'll be advising yer church to give up it's tax free status next Sunday then?

Full point takedown.

#63 zombie
I don't buy the "standing up for my faith" defense for a second.

You're a complete m*ron. First of all, aren't you a little biased as a flaming atheist?

Second, you've posted enough "smarter" replies that I am sure you are aware of the important principle under the First Amendment:

If you are to preserve Constitutional free speech as was intended, you must support free speech you hate. Otherwise, there is no such thing as free speech and the First Amendment is moot. Of course, you have unconstitutional backing now with pending Hate Crimes legislation where you may protect one class's free speech over another's "thought crime".

#74 marymoore

My own pet peeve is store employees who say, "Have a blessed day." I always tell them, "If you want to preach, start a church - I didn't come here for that."

How sad? First, How do you even know it's meant in a religious sense? Second, you state it's your pet peeve as if everyone greets you that way. Not likely!

Believe it or not, there are people in this world who selflessly try to be positive in a very negative world.

#82 Flag: failed Civics.

yav, civics class aside, you don't know the history i have with this idiot.

yav, civics class aside, you don't know the history i have with this idiot.

Generally speaking, there is no "Freedom of Speech" right for a Citizen when that Citizen is on private property, such as a shopping mall or at a business. There are only a few states where the state constitution grants such a right - over and above the U.S. Constitution.

The First Amendment rights are not about private business, but the Government and its Citizens.

"Just because someone says "have a blessed day" does not mean they are going to convert you, or try to convert you. To be angry with them because of that is ridiculous, childish and foolish."

Tell me this - how do you think Christians would like it if I were serving them in a retail establishment and I took a moment to tell them that I think their veneration of their imaginary friend is tee-totally fucked up?

The answer, of course, is that they would not appreciate me using their momentary proximity as an opportunity to voice my views.

There was a time in retail (and I did some time in the field when I was a lot younger and when it was still a profession, not employment of last resort) when you were told in no uncertain terms to check all your personal shit -no matter what it might be - at the door when you clocked in. Time enough to be a Christian, pagan, Rotarian, nudist, Scout troop leader or bowler when you clocked out.

Generally speaking, there is no "Freedom of Speech" right for a Citizen when that Citizen is on private property, such as a shopping mall or at a business. There are only a few states where the state constitution grants such a right - over and above the U.S. Constitution

yav,where did you learn all this, Wow!

I think their veneration of their imaginary friend is tee-totally fucked up?
#87 mary
They would either laugh in your face for such ridiculous choice of words or be offended at your lack of social grace to swear at them.

Here's the definition of blessed:

bless⋅ed
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1. consecrated; sacred; holy; sanctified: the Blessed Sacrament.
2. worthy of adoration, reverence, or worship: the Blessed Trinity.
3. divinely or supremely favored; fortunate: to be blessed with a strong, healthy body; blessed with an ability to find friends.
4. blissfully happy or contented.
5. Roman Catholic Church. beatified.
6. bringing happiness and thankfulness: the blessed assurance of a steady income.
7. Informal. damned: I'm blessed if I know.
8. Informal. (used as an intensifier): every blessed cent.

It isn't religion-pushing. Some people are "positive people" and enjoy making other people's day more positive as well.

Some people are "positive people" and enjoy making other people's day more positive as well.

They should knock it off

yav,where did you learn all this, Wow!

Helpful hint: Snark only works from a position of strength.

Since "blessed" is a word most people associate with religion, I'd say yes, a clerk should refrain from using it in a greeting.

I might give the clerk a "look" but I certainly don't think it's worthy of a verbal confrontation.

It's easier and more prudent to just say "you, too" (just as I would respond to "have a nice day") and go on my way.

#92 twinpak

It's sickening how much we've become so politically-correct. People with the same narrow-mindedness pushed so that now you can't say 'Merry Christmas' -- not just at store greetings, but even at your own Office Christmas Party!

L RCONTRARIAN

I say "Merry Christmas" any time I want to. If someone responds with "Happy Holidays to you, too," they have their rights.

Also, I don't see anything wrong with political correctness in this case . . . since neither is political. It's nothing more than an acknowledgment of the spirit of the season.

If I was going to pick a battle, it certainly wouldn't be over anything as inoffensive as a common knee-jerk greeting.

Also, your use of the word "sickening" tells me that you have way too much time on your hands to ponder over such trivialities.

As an atheist I have no problem with saying Merry Christmas to someone who says it to me. Christmas is a holiday, and wishing someone to have a nice holiday has nothing to do with religion. I celebrate the day as a day of sharing with family and friends, and it has nothing to do with religion---in my life. Religion is not necessary to enjoy Christmas and the sharing of peace and harmony. The concepts of peace, harmony, love, and sharing, are above religious rhetoric.

well said,Buffalo

Ditto, Bob

But I wish you'd carry that "peace and harmony" thing over to the rest of the year.

And stop some of the contrarian nonsense you come up with.

And stop some of the contrarian nonsense you come up with.

#97 | Posted by Twinpac at 2009-10-25 02:31 AM | Reply | Flag

Such as...

Why do people make statements like that and never reference what they are referring to?

"peace and harmony"

protrarian

BRUCE

Bob and Goatman are both contrarians.

Between the two of them, there's not a wiff of peace and harmony to be found.

Con . . . Bob (always)

Pro . . . Usually (but not always)

They're both stubborn as hell.

As an atheist I have no problem with saying Merry Christmas to someone who says it to me....

#95 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-10-25 02:07 AM

Well, at least that's a start. Maybe there's hope yet. : )

BOB

Why do people make statements like that and never reference what they are referring to?

Why? So you can say I brought it up first?

Didn't the boss warn you to stay on topic?

Didn't the boss warn you to stay on topic?

#102 | Posted by Twinpac at 2009-10-25 03:27 AM | Reply | Flag

I would say that you were the first to get off topic--not me.

I ask about what you call contrarian nonsense because I don't consider anything I bring up to be contrarian nonsense. I use logic on all my posts, and post links to everything I say. I never make a statement without being able to back it up---not like you just did.

You're right, BOB

I broke my own rule: Never open the gate to the troll cage.

LOL

With that, it's 7:06 a.m. and time for me to get to work.

'Mornin' ya'all.

I broke my own rule: Never open the gate to the troll cage.

LOL

#104 | Posted by Twinpac at 2009-10-25 06:04 AM | Reply | Flag

Not at all. You opened your mouth and couldn't back your play. You were asked a reasonable question, and treated with respect. You insulted me for no reason. You accused me of being off subject when you were the one who deviated. You accused me of being a troll when you are the only one being rude. Maybe you should try thinking before you speak.

Typical twinpac. Whenever she is about to lose a debate she runs off.

What kind of Job does Twin have if she works on Sunday morning? Must be some service sector job.

Wonder no more, Jackass

I had to tally up the betting sheets for yesterdays races at Aqueduct. Then I had to do a Profit and Loss statement to see how much I made.

LOL . . .

I had to tally up the betting sheets for yesterdays races at Aqueduct. Then I had to do a Profit and Loss statement to see how much I made.
LOL . . .

#109 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

That would seem awfully weird since it's fall racing season does not open until next week.

Thank god he wasn't fired for wearing an Obama button. That would be a hate crime

The employer has the absolute right to determine which "points of flair" are appropriate. Not every customer who might give him money for merchandise wants to hear about Jeebus.

LOL JACKASS - You caught me.

I was just trying to make your dossier more interesting.

Forgive me?

Thank god he wasn't fired for wearing an Obama button. That would be a hate crime

#112 | Posted by bph320 at 2009-10-25 09:58 AM | Reply | Flag Stupid Crime

#92 twinpac
If I was going to pick a battle, it certainly wouldn't be over anything as inoffensive as a common knee-jerk greeting.

I'm not the one who "picked the battle". I'm responding to the mindless semantics of a greeting, 'Have a Blessed Day' which your political cohort raised!

I made a valid parallel to 'Merry Christmas'. I also stated a very strong dislke for political correctness. We've got to stop the nonsense of making social 'faux paus' over hurting somebody's feelings! I also did just as you proposed. I addressed the bigger picture, as it is much larger than a store greeting.

Christmas has nothing to do with Baby Jeebus. I celebrate drunken debauchery with family and friends, gift exchanges, and eating myself into a coma regularly for the period between Thanksgiving and New Year's Day. Think of this whenever I wish you a "Merry Christmas."

"It never crossed my mind to take off the button because I'm standing for something that's bigger than I am. They kept telling me the severity of what you're doing and I just let God be in control and went with His plan." (Trevor Keezer, 19, former Home Depot employee)

God gonna pay your bills, Trevor?

It's a disgrace that people can not express their religious beliefs in this way. Unfortunately Home Depot has the right to dictate it not be on it's business but it just is sad to think one has to hide their beliefs from others.

Larry

People can express their religious beliefs in this country. No one has to hide their beliefs when they are own their own businesses, are in their own homes, etc. But when your employer says don't wear the button, don't wear the button. This guy should have put the button on his coat and worn it to and from work. He should also have remembered the best demonstration of a person's religious belief is how that person treats other people.

"I want to be a voice for the rest of the Christians and for the citizens of this country to stand up for the country. You know, quit being told to sit down. Say what you want to say and don't be afraid of the consequences," he said.

Excuse me, Trevor, but you were hired to do a job not "to be a voice for the rest of Christians." If you want to promote your cause, don't do it on your employer's time; do it on your own time. Why is that so hard to understand?

Likewise, gal - should H.D. be promoting the gay agenda on employee's time? Causes are causes! Would they be able to do such things if not for their employees? Is that difficult for you to understand? I'm sure they do not speak for ALL their employees.

I assume a button that read: "One gay nation under God, indivisible" would be verboten as well. As would be a button that read: "One nation under Allah, indivisible." If not, given the no button policy, they should be.

Mathew 6:5 "Whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, because they love to pray while standing in synagogues 7 and on street corners so that people can see them. Truly I say to you, they have their reward. 6:6 But whenever you pray, go into your room, 8 close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you.

He claims to be a Christian, and yet doesn't understand what the Bible teaches .....

Mathew 6:5 "Whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, because they love to pray while standing in synagogues 7 and on street corners so that people can see them. Truly I say to you, they have their reward. 6:6 But whenever you pray, go into your room, 8 close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you.

He claims to be a Christian, and yet doesn't understand what the Bible teaches .....

#123 | Posted by HLAY2009 at 2009-10-26 12:18 AM

You are also enjoined by your Bible to proselytize, evangelize, and sermonize. We heathens would feel better about the whole Christianist thing if the rules were more clearly laid out.

Home Depot should rethink their policy in accepting dollar bills. Every bill has the offensive phrase, "One nation under God" right on the back of the bill.

Not only does Home Depot have crappy products and poor service - they must have moonbats at the Home Office as well.

This disabled veteran (combat wounded) will never enter a Home Depot ever again.

Trevor Keezer, 19, was told that the company's dress code does not allow " noncompany buttons, regardless of their message or content," a company spokesperson said. Keezer said, "It never crossed my mind to take off the button because I'm standing for something that's bigger than I am. They kept telling me the severity of what you're doing and I just let God be in control and went with His plan."

Okay, what happens if he wears a button with the Red Crescent Society logo and the message, "Praise Allah"? Or an upside-down US flag pin that reads, "Obama's a Traitor"? Or a tasteful pin showing a toilet with the message "Bush Legacy"?

As for #125, when the kid's pin becomes legal tender, get back to me, 'kay?

A cashier has been fired from an Okeechobee, Fl., Home Depot for refusing to stop wearing an American flag button that reads: "One nation under God, indivisible."

Tough shit, dick-bag.

You accepted the terms of employment and said terms included a dress-code.

I hope you enjoy being unemployed.

The people of this country need to start taking a stand on issues of this nature. This young mans freedoms were taken away and I dont think this should be dealt with lightly. If you agree with me please take th time to sign this petition. I will be sending this over to Home Depot Headquarters when I recieve a substantial amount of votes. Please do this for our country before all our rights are taken away. Thank You