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Friday, October 16, 2009

A Baptist Church near Asheville, N.C., is hosting a "Halloween book burning" to purge the area of "Satan's" works, which include all non-King James versions of the Bible, popular books by many religious authors and even country music. The website for the Amazing Grace Baptist Church in Canton, N.C., says there are "scriptural bases" for the book burning.

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Nice overalls, Pastor!

WOW!

Somebody off his meds?

I adore Christians. They're so delightfully ignorant.

I love the part about only the king james bible being the inspired word of god to the english speaking people. Jeebus was clearly right there at the printing press, making sure they got all the thee's and thou's straight so provincial hicks centuries later would feel the prayer magick just right.

Christians like this need their own reality show.

I swear some people are kooky. What the fuck is wrong with the NIV the RSVB LAB etc etc etc?? If it gets You closer to Jesus and G-d then the Pastor should be all for it. What utter and complete Poppycock.

Larry

Disturbing at best. What the hell is it with baptists that seems so much more batshit insane than other denominations??

"N.C. Church Plans Halloween Book Burning"

God bless America.

I'd like Nanc to weigh in on this.

Does that include translations of the Bible from other countries?

If you're French, or German, or Italian, you can't read an authentic Christian bible unless you learn English and read the King James Version.

In fact, I've always been surprised God didn't just use his power and write the Bible in English in the first place?

I mean...after all...English IS the official Christian language.

I just watched his video on youtube.

He said his opinions only apply to English speaking people.

(That's because the only "real Christians" are English speaking anyway and they all just happen to be located in Ashville, NC.)

All 14 of them.

Come on. It's global warming.

Have you seen the temperatures lately across the nation.

They're just cold.

Larry,

"What the fuck is wrong with the NIV the RSVB LAB etc etc etc??"

Well...well...I didn't know that about you...hmmm

Oh...the Life Application Bible isn't exactly a translation in itself. It's a way of studying the bible and accompanies a variety of translations.

Personally, I prefer reading the NKJV and The Living Bible.

btw...people who are intrigued by the Bible oftentimes make the mistake of trying to read it like a book (front to back).

A great place to start is Proverbs in the Old Testament, in my opinion.

"A great place to start is Proverbs in the Old Testament, in my opinion."

100%

You have to whip a horse, you have to bridle a donkey and you have to beat a fool.

Proverbs 26:3

The weight of stone and sand is nothing compared to the trouble that stupidity can cause.

Proverbs 27:3

And the most important one of all:

A fool can use a proverb as well as a crippled man can use his legs.

Proverbs 26:7

Grow the skunky green herb, and distribute it widely.

Cannabicus 4:20

Grow the skunky green herb, and distribute it widely.

Cannabicus 4:20

Null reminds me of that zit faced kid in HS who talked about nothing but pot and getting high as if he was the only one who had ever done it. Then he finally got laid and that was all he ever talked about.

Well...well...I didn't know that about you...hmmm

#12 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2009-10-15 10:52 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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What's THAT supposed to mean?? Translation please

Larry

#15 | Posted by goatman

Get your shots in while you can, GoatbOoB. By the time you get back, we will probably have killfiles and you will, well, no longer exist. LOL.

By the time you get back, we will probably have killfiles and you will, well, no longer exist. LOL.

Am I supposed to care? I never had existed.

I'd like Nanc to weigh in on this.

Those aren't real Christians.

-nanc

By the time you get back, we will probably have killfiles and you will, well, no longer exist. LOL.

For those who didn't want to read my posts, they figured out how to do it without killfile. Anyone over say 8 years old can figure it out. I even told you how.

If I was that unclear, you should have asked for help if my posts distress you so.

But honestly? I'm surprised you openly admit to being so stupid you couldn't figure it out.

I read this recently in our local paper here in Winston-Salem.

Fourteen members of the congregation. That alone should put this into perspective.

I read this recently in our local paper here in Winston-Salem.

Salem?

They're burning books in Salem now?

Wot? Did they run out of witches already?

/Don't look at Spud like that.
//That joke was almost inevitable in hindsight.

Be Well.

SPUD -
I had a burning desire to stake my claim to that fact.

Back atcha.

A Baptist Church near Asheville, N.C., is hosting a "Halloween book burning" to purge the area of "Satan's" works, which include all non-King James versions of the Bible, popular books by many religious authors and even country music.

They're going to burn country music too?

What's so evil about a good ol' country tune?

I'm Catholic and I believe in Christ so I'm "Christian" in that sense.

But who are these Baptist Christians? Are they religious fundamentalists? It's religious fundamentalist wackos like these -- the book burners, etc. -- who make me angry because then anyone who believes in Christ gets lumped into one group -- Christians -- and now the word "Christian" has become associated with meaning those who are the more radical Christian fundamentalists.

The religious fundamentalists act as if they "own" the word "Christian." I wish the media and others would stop referring to the radical religious fundamentalists only as "Christians" and instead start calling each religious group by their individual demonination - such as Baptists, Episcopalians, religious fundamentalists, Lutherans, Catholics, whatever.

There is a world of difference between the different Christian religions.

I'm a "Christian" because I believe in Christ but I'm not into believing in the Rapture, or that the Earth is only 6000 years old, and the rest of the beliefs of the radical religious fundamentalists. Again, the religious fundamentalists don't "own" the word "Christian" and should just stick to referring to themselves by whichever religious domination they belong to -- in this particular case it's the "Baptists" who want the bookburning -- not all "Christians" in general.

Hope I was able to make myself clear.

They're going to burn country music too?

I wish them well

CAL-
Unfortunately I have to get ready for work in a few minutes, so I won't be around much to discuss this with you. But please allow me to toss a question for you to ponder.

When you say you don't believe in the Rapture or the earth being 6,000 yrs old, etc... how do you rationalize what parts of the Bible you are going to believe and what parts of it you'll dismiss?

Any wonder what they'll do with Blue Oyster Cult?
www.lyricsmode.com

Any wonder what they'll do with Blue Oyster Cult?

They probably won't fear the reaper

CAL-

Unfortunately I have to get ready for work in a few minutes, so I won't be around much to discuss this with you. But please allow me to toss a question for you to ponder.

When you say you don't believe in the Rapture or the earth being 6,000 yrs old, etc... how do you rationalize what parts of the Bible you are going to believe and what parts of it you'll dismiss?

#26 | Posted by OohRah at 2009-10-16 05:12 A

Just now saw your post. Had left you an unrelated message on another thread and, like you, I too have to get going now.

But in an honest answer to your question above? I have to shamefully say I do not know the Bible and its teachings well enough, or thorough enough, to be able to give you an answer. That's as truthful as I can be, Oohrah.

#29 -- my response to Oohrah shouldn't have been in blockquotes. It's late. Time to push to he keyboard away before I make more mistakes.

Hag,

One of my personal favorites.

Proverbs 26:11

"As a dog returns to its vomit,
so a fool returns to his folly.

I mean...after all...English IS the official Christian language.

#9 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2009-10-15 10:17 PM | Reply | Flag: IGNORANT ASSHOLE PRICK

"Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.


21 "Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 23 And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

which include all non-King James versions of the Bible

So a Church is doing Satan's work on Halloween...interesting.

G-d made Baptists to help Catholics look sane.

-G-d made Baptists to help Catholics look sane.

And it seems to be working......

G-d made Baptists to help Catholics look sane.

And he made Pentecostals to make Baptists look sane.

And on the last day, G-d made me to make everyone else look sane

What about JeffNDenmark?

Jeffin was put here by aliens and has nothing to do with G-d.

He, and others who post here, are part of that unknown group that Cain asked G-d to protect him from that the Bible does not cover being created.

Jeffin was put here by aliens and has nothing to do with G-d.

#39 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-10-16 09:59 AM | Reply | Flag: Hardly a universal definition of g-d.

#41 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2009-10-16 10:04 AM | Reply | Flag: Thinks G-d made anything other than Americans and therefore supports terror and hates freedom

He, and others who post here, are part of that unknown group that Cain asked G-d to protect him from that the Bible does not cover being created.

Ah, I always wondered whether Cain feared the Reptilians, Insectoids, Nephilim or Mole People the most.

#42 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-10-16 10:05 AM Flag: Thinks typing the word "God" will hurt him

#42 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-10-16 10:05 AM Flag: Thinks typing the word "God" will hurt him

#44 | Posted by joe

Yeah, what is it with K-i, J-e?

Next the parishioners will march downtown and smash Jewish shop windows. herm

hey everybody! it's country bumpkin backwards Friday!

let's burn some witches at the stake whilst we are hard at it!

Catholics don't like the King James version
First it is an unauthorized version and secondly the sponsor was a homosexual. (during his life King James was often referred to as Queen James)

I can't answer J-e's 44 as I fear being stuck d-wn. S-rry if it -ffends y-u.

someone once told me:

"Christianity is the poor man's religion"

A billion Chinese burning in Red Devil Hell because they worship someone other than JC?

okaley dokaley.

"I can't answer J-e's 44 as I fear being stuck d-wn. S-rry if it -ffends y-u."

It doesn't offend me, K-i. It's just o-d.

*** which include all non-King James versions of the Bible ***

.......well......it's a start........

Null,
I explained it long ago, but the short answer is that I went to an Orthodox school for a few years which is where that started with me. It is now habit and, to be honest, God just doesn't look right to me anymore. I reflexively type G-d.

I used to be much worse as they also forced us to type "L-rd" when talking about the Lord. I felt that was just beyond silly just as you see my typing G-d.

Damn, not type, but write. It has been a long time...

I don't get these burnings. I mean, I get it when you go to the town library and all the bookstores and burn every copy of a book. But that is not what modern book burners do because they'll get locked up. So instead, they go out and buy copies of the crap they want to burn, putting money in the pockets fo the people who print the book.

I remember when my friend from Alabama told me the story about how he was born again in a baptist church in the mid 80's and one of the first things he did was participate in a book/record burning. He burned all his old kiss vinyl.

He's never forgiven himself and has been making up for it ever since.

I pride my record collection, it's the only thing I like to do
But, my dad insists they're evil things
with satanic messages in their grooves
He says he knows this for a fact cause the lord told him so
And he doesn't want the voice of Satan
raging through his humble home.
Those records are the devil's music
And no son of mine's gonna listen to them
Sorry son, but you have no choice
I just can't have you hearing that devil's voice
I told him to shut up and he punched my face
He then grabbed a sledgehammer from out back
and sabotaged my record rack
He crushed all my imports and rarities
He didn't even save the picture sleeves!
afterwards I felt so weak
with each broken record died a part of me

All sect's have their loonies. Just look how many we have who gravitate to this board! Raise your hand if Doc speaks for your side :-D

Crazy loons, I'm surprised Obama hasn't made Pastor Marc Grizzard the nation's Religion Czar, he'd fit right in with the rest as soon as he agreed to burn the Constitution.

As a Christian, it saddens me to see there are still other Christians out there with this kind of mentality.

It is also disparaging to see so many on the left that want to preach (pun intended) tolerance of any and everything else on the planet, but cannot wait to jump all over Christians and religion in general when something like this happens. Just like almost everything else, a small segment of ANY GIVEN POPULATION is going to be ridden with the douche bag gene.

That said, I am all for burning the country music!!

.........religion=ignorance...
.....

That said, I am all for burning the country music!!
#61 | Posted by seedeez2

Including Willie and Johnny?

Speaking of stupid idiot baptists, GOP 2012: Huckabee 29% Romney 24% Palin 18% www.rasmussenreports.com

As long as they continue to keep burning Bibles,
I'm all for it...

"I don't care if it rains or freezes, long as I gots my plastic Jaysuuuuus!"

.........religion=ignorance...
.....

#62 | Posted by jetdriver


anti-religion = intolerant

#61, I think a lot of us on the left preach equality, not tolerance. For instance, as I have posted in other threads, I want to see gays get the same rights we have, to be able to marry, to be socially accepted, etc. That's far from the only issue I feel like that, and it all revolves around my belief that all humans have the right to do anything they want so long as it does not hurt anyone.

So, that said, I believe people are equal, but I don't believe religion is. People on the left like me jump all over it because we're tired of the excesses of hypocrits who hide behind the name of a religion while doing the very things it deplores. I believe religion is harmful, too. It gives easy answer and superstition rather than to drive the quest for more knowledge. Religion gives false comfort and taints entire paradigms of research. For instance, the AMA does not consider aging a disease. Can you honestly tell me that isn't a view tainted by the belief that it's ok, because somehow, that soul is going to go on after death? The religious won this one, they get to continue singing about how every sperm is sacred since we created a pill to give you a boner long before one single truly life extending medication, and as an atheist, I'm horrified. The life we have is the only thing sacred to me, because it's all we've got, all we'll ever have.

That give a little bit of an idea why we on the left jump on the religious every time they screw up?

So, that said, I believe people are equal, but I don't believe religion is. People on the left like me jump all over it because we're tired of the excesses of hypocrits who hide behind the name of a religion while doing the very things it deplores

That's what they don't get- it ain't the behavior we are making fun of, it is that they condemned the very behavior they themselves commit.

"I don't care if it rains or freezes, long as I gots my plastic Jaysuuuuus!"

#65 | Posted by earthmuse


...and people say Christians are ignorant. ...your intolerance runs dangerously close to being the same sort of hate seen coming from that of the KKK - towards blacks and Catholics.

Is this a political site or a religious-hate site? Just wondering because there's little room to debate... "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".

Ok, I'll bite - congress does indeed say that, so we can't pass laws on it. Yet, why should we be tolerant of ignorant backwards superstitions called religions?

Agh, was looking at the post above while writing, constitution, not congress

"......Pastor Marc Grizzard told a local news station of his 14-member parish."

Wow....ALL 14 members?

And he made Pentecostals to make Baptists look sane.

#36 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-10-16 09:55 AM

The guy in that video looks like a fat Al Bundy.

Yet, why should we be tolerant of ignorant backwards superstitions called religions?

#70 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2009-10-16 12:44 PM

The same reason we tolerate adolescent atheism that thrives off of faux superiority. To each his own.

anti-religion = intolerant

#66 | Posted by R0B0T

.......you are wrong.......

....since the religious are burning books, they are the intolerant......

......to oppose them is to promote tolerance.....

......to not oppose the book-burning intolerance would be appeasement, not tolerance......

My atheism has nothing to do with a need for "superiority" and everything to do with a skeptical need for concrete evidence. Greater claims require greater evidence and such. However, if you refer back to my #67 post instead of the one line I jokingly threw back at the pro-religious post, you find my actual reason for pushing atheism instead of shrugging off religion under a "live and let live" attitude.

Burned-book smoke is dangerous, it's like burning construction waste because of the chemicals in the paper, bindings and covers. If the parishioners get sick from the book burning, will they think it's because God is telling them that book burning is wrong, or will they just suddenly realize they're stupid?

I truly wonder if they would burn a copy of the New Testament in Greek? And if so, which one would be good for burning or not burning. If they are like many KJVO's (King James Version Only) they believe that Erasmus' Greek New Testament is the only one acceptable, but which one of the four versions he did is correct?

Yes, I'm kinda poking fun at them just a bit. I don't have a problem with them burning books as long as their either pay for them or take donations. I'd agree that some newer translations of the Bible suffer from accuracy problems (doubtless due to the religious ideology of the translators), but some of them stress accuracy to the originals, such as the English Standard Version. If one likes the KJV but the English is too stilted to understand (and in places it is pretty bad), why not look at the New KJV instead?

One can compare many Bibles at: www.biblegateway.org

knighthawk posted (#6):

What the hell is it with baptists that seems so much more batshit insane than other denominations??

I think they hold them underwater a tad too long.

"If the parishioners get sick from the book burning, will they think it's because God is telling them that book burning is wrong...?"

Probably confirm their beliefs that the books are evil incarnate.

However, if you refer back to my #67 post instead of the one line I jokingly threw back at the pro-religious post, you find my actual reason for pushing atheism instead of shrugging off religion under a "live and let live" attitude.
#77 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2009-10-16 01:02 PM
Your #67 was a lame ass broad brush rant, not leaving room for the religious who do seek knowledge, embrace science, who don't embrace religion out of some need for comfort but out of philosophical interest, and who use it as a driving force for doing good in the world. You've narrowed "religion" to a subset of the religious, and then bash "religion" in general.
My atheism has nothing to do with a need for "superiority"
#77 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2009-10-16 01:02 PM
Sure thing, sport! (lol)

seedeez2 posted (#61)

As a Christian, it saddens me to see there are still other Christians out there with this kind of mentality.

My fundamentalist brother-in-law claims that the KJB is the only book mankind needs and contains the only knowledge mankind needs. He claims that anything that disagrees with it is heretical and satan-inspired, while anything that agrees with it is unnecessary because we already have the KJB.

I suggested that if all we know we learned from the bible, nobody would know how to make a shoe. He doesn't talk to me any more ;).

Actually, book burning is a long-time Christian practice and this wackaloon is only the latest in a long line of book burners.

First came the destruction of as many of the 'heretical' gospels as could be found, with only the three synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke), and later the gospel of John allowed to survive. Only recently have copies of several of the other 50 or so gospels been found, sequestered away from the Church's reach.

Then, though the Royal Library in Alexandria, Egypt had already suffered several attacks, what was left was destroyed after the edict of Christian emperor Theodosius I in his quest to destroy all 'pagan' temples in Alexandria.

In fact, throughout the Dark Ages, any book not approved of by the Church was destroyed or at least banned. All of the works of the Greek and Roman civilizations were lost to Europe for a millenium. It wasn't until Christians finally expelled the Moors from Spain that they found these works that had been lovingly protected by Muslims. Also, a small group of (heretical?) monks in Ireland also hid many of the great works away. We will never know how much of the wisdom of the Ionians, Greeks, and Romans who lived before Jeebus was destroyed, never to be seen on Earth again.

Then there is the crime against humanity committed during the Spanish conquest of the Maya, when Bishop Diego de Landa ordered the destructions of thousands of priceless codices (folding books) as 'pagan' writings. Today, only four codices remain, and we have learned so much about Mayan mathematics, astronomy, and calendars from these puny four codices that it boggles the mind to think about what was lost.

These are a few of many, many examples all through the history of Christendom where pious Christians set about trying to destroy anything that wasn't directly related to the worship of Jeebus.

Marc Grizzard has his own rights to believe whatever he may, just as everyone else has their rights to believe what ever they may.
It's called freedom of religion folks, without it we would all be forced to worship someone like obamanation, the Muslim Mafia, which is disgusting.

Better than bra burning!

Seriously, who likes saggy bosoms?

LIVE_OR_DIE, you should take note of the wisdom of philosopher Eric Hoffer, who said:

"The opposite of the religious fanatic is not the fanatical atheist but the gentle cynic who cares not whether there is a god or not."

The recent emergence of the more militant variety of atheist is a defensive phenomenon in response to the ascendancy of religion, superstition, and ignorance, and its organized attempts to make everybody bow to its ancient taboos and myths.

As Kevin Tebedo, former director of Colorado For Family Values told an audience of mixed religions:

"In the end all your knees will bow to Jesus Christ whether you want to or not.

I have no problem with people practicing whatever religion they want to. They can eat the magically transmuted meat and blood of some 2,000 year old corpse as they kneel under a sculpture of his almost naked body, pierced and wounded, hung on a primitive torture device. They can strip naked, paint themselves blue, sacrifice a black cat with an obsidian knife and dance around the entrails in the dark of the moon. Its all their business.

But when any of these groups decides to enter the public arena so as to spread their ignorance and bronze-age superstitions out to enmesh the rest of us, then it is time for even atheists to get militant.

Ironically, when you think about it, an atheist is merely somebody who believes in one fewer gods than you do.

HAGBARD CELINE posted (#81)

"If the parishioners get sick from the book burning, will they think it's because God is telling them that book burning is wrong...?"

Probably confirm their beliefs that the books are evil incarnate.


I know Christians who insist that AIDS is their god's way of telling gays that homosexuality is a sin.

I guess that means that Legionnaire's Disease is the same god's way of telling warmongers that war is also a sin. LOL

How about Genesis 1:29?

Really there's only one reason for burning a book. That book contains truths which might upset the house of lies on which you have built your empire. Books are dangerous things and were it not for how-to-build-a-bomb kinds of manuals, the corporations would have banned them all long ago. herm

I'd go just for the barbecued chicken. North Carolina mustard sauce is my favorite.

Really there's only one reason for burning a book.

Being out of rolling paper.

Books are dangerous things and were it not for how-to-build-a-bomb kinds of manuals, the corporations would have banned them all long ago. herm

#89 | Posted by herm at 2009-10-16 02:10 PM | Reply

Corporations produce and sell books, Herm. They aren't in favor of banning anything that makes them money. Corporations won't even ban books that say corporations should be banned (so long as there is a market for them).

The recent emergence of the more militant variety of atheist is a defensive phenomenon in response to the ascendancy of religion, superstition, and ignorance, and its organized attempts to make everybody bow to its ancient taboos and myths.
#86 | Posted by BlueSun at 2009-10-16 01:57 PM
I don't make excuses for militant theists, why should you make excuses for militant atheists? Both are wrong.

I have no problem with people practicing whatever religion they want to. They can eat the magically transmuted meat and blood of some 2,000 year old corpse as they kneel under a sculpture of his almost naked body, pierced and wounded, hung on a primitive torture device. They can strip naked, paint themselves blue, sacrifice a black cat with an obsidian knife and dance around the entrails in the dark of the moon. Its all their business.
#86 | Posted by BlueSun at 2009-10-16 01:57 PM
Precisely the point. The condescending nature in which you wrote this paragraph suggests that you DO have a problem with it, however.

But when any of these groups decides to enter the public arena so as to spread their ignorance and bronze-age superstitions out to enmesh the rest of us, then it is time for even atheists to get militant.
#86 | Posted by BlueSun at 2009-10-16 01:57 PM
Utter foolishness. It is time for all people, regardless of their religion, to stand against those who would force their beliefs on everyone else. That you paint it into an "us-vs-them" scenario shows your lack of tolerance.

Ironically, when you think about it, an atheist is merely somebody who believes in one fewer gods than you do.
#86 | Posted by BlueSun at 2009-10-16 01:57 PM
I have great respect for atheists who respect others' beliefs, and for theists who respect others' beliefs. No respect, however, for members of either group who don't respect others' beliefs. They're just two sides of the same hateful, stupid coin.

"Corporations produce and sell books. They aren't in favor of banning anything that make money."

Alongside corporate HMOs, Big Oil and Hallburton, corporate book publishers are like ants alongside an elephant. They could all vanish overnight and out computerized society would never miss 'em. herm.

Marc Grizzard has his own rights to believe whatever he may, just as everyone else has their rights to believe what ever they may.
It's called freedom of religion folks, without it we would all be forced to worship someone like obamanation, the Muslim Mafia, which is disgusting.

#84 | Posted by Dr_Feelgood at 2009-10-16 01:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

How have Grizzard's freedoms been infringed upon? In what way was he stopped from doing this?

Muslim Mafia? Oh, you mean the big PR press junket in which WorldNutDaily is using public officials to promote it's book. The rep even admitted she wrote the foreword for it.

Imagne a group wanting to have more of it's own in congressional intern/aide positions!! THE HORROR OF IT ALL!!! It must be because they're "Muslim spies" as you and your fellow clowns are trying to imply.

Muslim Mafia? Oh, you mean the big PR press junket in which WorldNutDaily is using public officials to promote it's book. The rep even admitted she wrote the foreword for it.

WTF is the "Muslim Mafia"? Whoever they are, they had better watch out. The Mexican Mafia might have trademark issues with their initials... and most of their copyright cases are "settled out of court".

#94 | Posted by herm at 2009-10-16 02:34 PM | Reply

October 31st is right around the corner. All it will take is one good scare from a kid visiting your nursing home to make my day, father time.

Boo!

You still there?

Yeah, about half of the posts since my last one prove my point, tolerance for everything, but Christianity.

To paraphrase Bill Hicks:

If you are Christian and I upset you: forgive me.

"tolerance for everything, but Christianity."

Get used to it. It's the norm around here.

Is the price of a cord of wood _really_ that high where this guy lives? Or is this a way for him to get rid of his personal library?

The library is sponsoring this: they plan on loaning out the books, having them burned, and then charging everyone late fees.

After Halloween book burnings, here is a list of my favorite things;

1) Passover hangings,
2) Christmas day burning at the stakes
3) Easter day beheadings

There's a justifiable crime for the whole family in Fundie-world.

After Halloween book burnings, here is a list of my favorite things;

1) Passover hangings,
2) Christmas day burning at the stakes
3) Easter day beheadings

There's a justifiable crime for the whole family in Fundie-world.

#103 | Posted by Lipzoidial at 2009-10-16 03:25 PM

Buying a book and burning it is akin to killing people now?

Your extra chromosome is hanging out. Better zip that back in.

#102 | Posted by kanrei

Good one, Kanrei!

"Null reminds me of that zit faced kid in HS who talked about nothing but pot and getting high as if he was the only one who had ever done it. Then he finally got laid and that was all he ever talked about.

#15 | Posted by goatman"

Goatman reminds me of that zit faced kid in HS who never got laid.

Onward christain soldiers!

A Hallowe'en book burning followed by a Christmas Jew burning.

#108 Northguy3> A Hallowe'en book burning followed by a Christmas Jew burning.

Burning books is equivalent to burning people? Sheesh!

Come to think of it, I'd like to burn several school textbooks I had over the years. One of my first exposures to Algebra was under a poor teacher with a horrible textbook. I'd love to burn that book but I'll give the teacher a pass. Thankfully I got a much better Algebra book/teacher combo further along my educational journey.

Muslim Mafia? Oh, you mean the big PR press junket in which WorldNutDaily is using public officials to promote it's book. The rep even admitted she wrote the foreword for it.

WTF is the "Muslim Mafia"? Whoever they are, they had better watch out. The Mexican Mafia might have trademark issues with their initials... and most of their copyright cases are "settled out of court".

#96 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-10-16 02:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Muslim Mafia is a book being out out by WorldNutDaily.

There are also 4 repubs right now who are claiming that the group CAIR is trying to put 'Muslim spies' into congressional intern roles. Their 'proof'? A strategy memo uncovered in the book 'Muslim Mafa'.....for which the one of the 4 congresspeople (Sue Myrick) calling for the ban actually wrote the foreword.

Also, when CAIR countered the ridiculous claim, Sue Myrick went on FAUX News and claimed their response 'seems suspicious'.

It's all over the web but you can read it here right now.

www.politicsdaily.com

CAL #29 "But in an honest answer to your question above? I have to shamefully say I do not know the Bible and its teachings well enough, or thorough enough, to be able to give you an answer. That's as truthful as I can be, Oohrah."

I appreciate your candor. It's refreshing, whether here on the DR or elsewhere.

As we proceed in our Christian walk we move (like a child) from feeding off the milk to getting into the meat of things. Many folks remain at the milk stage... and as such really don't know (or are able to explain) their rationale for what they believe and why.

Stay with it. Ask questions. Read Scripture, etc.

My personal opinion? As humans we place God in a box that we can understand. A box which matches our understand of things like fairness, time and space, etc. God doesn't operate on our level, so when we say, "I can't believe that ever REALLY happened" or "I can't believe God would/wouldn't behave in this manner" we're actually placing our human limits on Godly activity.

In other ways, I see humans as only wanting to believe Scripture which dovetails with what THEY want from life... not conforming their life to Scripture.

It's an interesting topic for Christians to ponder. Non-Christians, too, for that matter.

#111 | Posted by OohRah

Very well stated and rational post. You sound almost like Grendel.

#111 | Posted by OohRah

yep.

Very well stated and rational post. You sound almost like Grendel.

#112 | Posted by AILtd at 2009-10-16 05:45 PM | Reply | Flag: Mancrush on Grendel

The bogus paratrooper misses his (her? designated stalkee, AU. The bogus one studies these postings for anything he (she?) can turn into a coarseness. He (she?) always succeeds. It's the military mind's finest moment. herm

#114 | Posted by Lipzoidial

Or maybe I recognize a well thought out and articulated poster. But don't worry, if you do a lot of reading, do a lot of thinking, and have someone proof read your posts, they may sound rational also. hehehe.

Grendel and I are similar in many aspects related to how faith plays out in our lives. He may differ on some faith-related issues, but both of our hearts are in the right place.

Shakespeare noted that "Satan can quote scripture for his own purposes!"

Pastor Marc Grizzard: Christ in another one of His distressing disguises.

Grizzard expounds that "the Scriptures shall be interpreted according to their normal grammatical-historical meaning, and all issues of interpretation and meaning shall be determined by the preacher."

I wonder of Pastor Grizzard believes the earth was created 6,000 years ago?

That's okay. I hereby invite all DR posters to my place on Samhain to partake of a goodd ol' fashioned book burning.

I'll be lighting up a stack of KJV bibles, roasting a pig over it and inviting everyone to partake of the sacramental hallucinogens before dancing naked around the fire and participating in my annual Samhain orgy and tupperware party.

I'll be lighting up a stack of KJV bibles, roasting a pig over it and inviting everyone to partake of the sacramental hallucinogens before dancing naked around the fire and participating in my annual Samhain orgy and tupperware party.

Tupperware?

Damn, Spud knew there'd be a catch.

Be Well.

Probably be chilly out that night so, a fire would feel pretty good. Wonder if they'll make smores.

What's wrong with tupperware, my tuberific friend? It's great. You put your weed in it.

What's wrong with tupperware, my tuberific friend? It's great. You put your weed in it.

* light bulb goes on *

Eureka!

Keeps it fresh, reduces smell and prevent it from drying out too quickly?

Good gawd, why didn't Spud see it before?

To date Spud has just used old Altoid containers to carry weed around, which, while styling, does little to reduce dry-out and the stank factor.

Good to see ya once more, DoubleD.

Be Well.

To date Spud has just used old Altoid containers to carry weed around, which, while styling, does little to reduce dry-out and the stank factor.

If you do this, you want to keep at least one Altoid in the container with it. Doesn't do much for the dry-out, but it will help the smell, mate.

Good to see ya once more, DoubleD.

Cheers, Spud. Good to be back.

If you do this, you want to keep at least one Altoid in the container with it. Doesn't do much for the dry-out, but it will help the smell, mate.

* furiously taking notes *

Cheers, Spud. Good to be back.

Exceeeeeeelent!

Be Well.

/K, the witching hour is upon Spud now, exiting the DRagon
stage left.

K, the witching hour is upon Spud now, exiting the DRagon
stage left.

And, as usual, the Rev is chasing the dragon
Wherever it bloody goes.

"What the hell is it with baptists that seems so much more batshit insane than other denominations??"
#6 | Posted by KnightHawk at 2009-10-15 07:29 PM | Reply

A large dose of legalism and self-righteousness.

Who were Jesus' disciples and followers? Ex-prostitutes and ex-reallly bad dudes.

I met one Baptist church that was like that--full of ex-meth heads and truckers and really bad dudes that changed and loved Jesus madly. And the pastor still raged against the evils of Promise Keepers and Billy Graham and "getting along" and tongues talkers.

Religion carried out primarily as a "culture war" is a beast from Revelation.

Judas betrayed Jesus with a kiss and the MOST religious crucified Jesus.

Btw, good to see you, Reverend, it's been awhile.

Those aren't real Christians.-nanc#19 | Posted by jpw at 2009-10-16 12:31 AM | Reply |

I'd bet many of them ARE real Christians, with a potentially toxic level of Phariseeism.

I don't know about YOUR worldview, but good people can be deceived, good people can do good acts with bad motives and bad people often try to appear good.

Rest assured, books on witchcraft need to be burned (by their owners). My ex-girlfriend had some crazy witchcraft books that we burned in college.

But that's about it, I'd say.

We say some freaky stuff upon burning...

When you say you don't believe in the Rapture or the earth being 6,000 yrs old, etc... how do you rationalize what parts of the Bible you are going to believe and what parts of it you'll dismiss?#26 | Posted by OohRah at 2009-10-16 05:12 AM | Reply

Give us chapter and verse on those and we'll talk...and debate.

If the Bible says it, I believe.

But that doesn't include every hair-brained theology that people come up with.

Be noble-Bereans (Acts 17:11).

Or maybe I recognize a well thought out and articulated poster. But don't worry, if you do a lot of reading, do a lot of thinking, and have someone proof read your posts, they may sound rational also. hehehe.

#116 | Posted by AILtd

Wow, who knew I was so close to being rational?

I was actually shooting for totally irrational, with no hope of rehabilitation.

Oh wait, I forgot...I find rationality to be totally boring, tedious and ultimately life destroying. But I understand other people use as a common guage to measure acceptance and to garner validation.

The next step after becoming rational is to become a book burner.

To honor this book burning event a BIBLE burning event is planned forthwith.

"I believe the King James version is God's preserved, inspired, inerrant and infallible word of God," Pastor Marc Grizzard told a local news station of his 14-member parish.

How did christians know the word of God before the KJV? Isn't this mindset turning the Buybull into a paper pope? Isn't the Baptist cult against popes and infallibility? Are these rational questions? Is the bible-obsessed mind incapable of being rational?

They are burning BOOKS!!! What a bunch of...

...They have BBQ and fried chicken, with all the sides???

Well, boy howdy, count me in!!!

Sssssspt-ting!!

How did christians know the word of God before the KJV

Good question since most folks couldn't read previous ones,or understand the mass.

If "The World According to Garp" is burned, I will not complain.

BTW, isn't burning a book as much a free-speech exercise as writing or reading one? Just wondering....I mean, more power to them!

isn't burning a book as much a free-speech exercise as writing or reading one

Sure,but its just bad form

BTW, isn't burning a book as much a free-speech exercise as writing or reading one?

No, but I'm sure you aren't familiar with the latter two endeavors so I'll cut you a little slack - much as one does with children, animals, and the helplessly, willfully, ignorant.

The humorless betelg can always be counted on to miss the point and sound self-righteous while doing so.....

#138 | Posted by Diablo at 2009-10-17 11:25 PM
***"BTW, isn't burning a book as much a free-speech exercise as writing or reading one? Just wondering....I mean, more power to them!"

Yes, I would have to agree. If they own the books (by purchase or donation) it is their perogative to do with them as they please. Though, just as with burning the flag, I don't necessarily agree with them, but who am I to say what they can/can't do with their own property...

Hell, I burn Bibles for heat in the winter; you can get them really cheap, and the BTU value is fairly high. And, if you roll them up real tight they burn forever. (I kid)...

Besides, they are serving BBQ and fried chicken with all the sides; hell I'd bring a few Harlequine Romance novellas to burn just to get in on that!!!

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