Why do bad things happen to bad people?

Now he could claim damages against the people spreading the unsourced lies of comments he did not make.

Of course Sharpton is happy--maybe Rush should send him a check and that would change his tune and Sharpton would be all for the deal.

bwhahahahahaha OH My heavens this is good. hahahahaha hehehehe hehehehe hahahaha. Good on them. Love it I really do. Yesssssssssssss

Larry

"Now he could claim damages against the people spreading the unsourced lies of comments he did not make.

#2 | Posted by MURPHY"

Sorry, Murph. Two things will combine to kill any such claim: 1) truth is a defense in defamation claims; and 2) Rush is a public figure, and the threshold is much higher for public figures, including the req't of showing the intent of actual malice.

Any such suit by el Rushbo would be tossed, as it should.

"#2 | Posted by MURPHY "

Awww, poor Goofy. Your dipshit hero was hoisted on his own petard.

Why do bad things happen to bad people?

#1 | Posted by rcade

Karma.

Yeah--a great day in America when the slime leftards can smear someone with lies and then pat themselves on the back.

All because they don't agree with their politics.

MOnte--the malice is to prevent him from buying a NFL team.

Why do bad things happen to good people or better yet why do good things happen to bad people? And, why do any of us get to decide who is good and who is bad?

And what basis do you decide "bad people"?

No different than what you all do to us Murphy. I'm just glad we succeeded. Don't cry in your cheerios.

The ain';t how it works, Murph. If el Rush blue pill brings such a suit, it will die a quick death. If you disagree, are you up for a wager?

Murphy the NFL is pvt. They can decide whoever they want can be an owner. The group trying to buy the team dropped him not the NFL. He can try to buy it on his own if he wants.

Yeah--a great day in America when the slime Teabaggers can smear someone with lies and then pat themselves on the back.

All because they don't agree with their politics.

#7 | Posted by MURPHY

FTFY

remember the cheering from Rush and the rest of the "Festering Fringe" for Obama's failure to secure the Olympics for America? This doesn't even come close to that.

You own it now.

So suck it up.

"This is about the ongoing effort by the left in this country, wherever you find them, in the media, the Democrat Party, or wherever, to destroy conservatism, to prevent the mainstreaming of anyone who is prominent as a conservative.

translation

'Left' = Whoever disagrees with me.
'Democratic party' = Black people and queers.
'Destroy Conservatism' = I am the leader of the conservatives. destroy me is to destroy conservatism.
'to prevent the mainstreaming of anyone who is prominent as a conservative' = Leeeeaaaavvvvveeee britney alooooonnneeeeeeee.

He and his followers simply cannot grasp the concept that the center has moved and they have not.

Isn't this just the free market that the fat bastard loves so much at work?

bwhahahahahaha OH My heavens this is good. hahahahaha hehehehe hehehehe hahahaha. Good on them. Love it I really do. Yesssssssssssss

Larry

OK? A fat drug addicted talk show host can't buy a football team. Somehow that doesn't exactly bring me to an orgasm, but I'm happy it blew air up your skirt, Larry.

You see, there IS a God!

So a group of almost exclusively white, almost exclusively conservative men many of whom no doubt share Limbaugh's political views and even listen to his radio program are turning their back on the host.

He and his supporters can cry about bias and political correctness run amok. They can scream about the Constitution. They can bemoan double standards.

The fact is you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Limbaugh made his money through his words. Now those words are denying him a business opportunity in a league that prides itself on inclusion.

"This is great news. This just proves what I have been saying all along." - R. Limbaugh 10-15-2009

#16 | Posted by goatman

hehe

It's been pathetic to see all the opportunistic political demagogues on all sides come out on the cable scream-fest "news" channels. (Is a potential minority owner of a lousy NFL team really a pressing issue in America?)

It's allowed both sides to cloud the situation with their own hackneyed "gotcha" agendas. Reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton should try to help the downtrodden rather than score cheap publicity. Anyone who attributed inflammatory quotes to Limbaugh that he never said should pay the consequences.

Yet Limbaugh's supporters can do a lot better than cry about how he was unfairly beaten down by political correctness.

Limbaugh would be best served manning up and acknowledging how he made his money. The whining bit isn't becoming of anyone. He doesn't have to apologize for it, but he has to admit words have consequences.

#21 | Posted by Dave

Whatever he said someone else said.

EXACTLY!

You can't shout into a radio microphone and then pretend the statements reside in a vacuum. When you're in the opinion business, people's opinion of you matter. You can't expect your reputation in one industry not to follow you into another. Oil men don't just walk in and become the director of the Sierra Club.

The best part about pro sports is its ability to bring entire regions of the country together regardless of race, religion, gender, politics and socio-economic background. Virtually nothing else unifies communities like the NFL.

Everyone in St. Louis (or beyond) can root for the Rams. They can all believe it's their team. They can watch the games as a diversion from things like partisan politics and self-serving debates.

Rush Limbaugh can, too.

It's just that a bunch of conservative businessmen, most of whom think just like him, aren't going to let him join their little club. To them, how he made his money is as important as how much he made.

and..........

Furthermore, it doesn't need somebody who will thrive on insulting the audience. Now, before you think this is a political comment, the same goes for the left. If you think the NFL wants Michael Moore as an owner, think again. Film producer Harvey Weinstein, talk show host Rachel Maddow and the Dixie Chicks probably aren't too welcome, either.

Alright...I'm done.

Anyone, whether it is a right or left ideologue, that distort facts and the truth are worthy of the contempt of Americans that have basic values. Those that do not have any basic values of anykind and are not evenhanded are representative of many that frequent the hate blogs. It is sad and I feel sorry for those individuals since they must live in a body that they detest and feels persistent psychologic pain. There are ways to get help-- if help is acquired those individuals might actually start to like themselves.

This is great news, now I don't have one more reason for not watching football, not that I needed another reason to not watch football but at least now I don't have another one.

"Calling the suitor of the St. Louis Rams a "jerk," Jets LB Bart Scott said he would never play for the team if Rush Limbaugh is successful in his bid to buy the NFL franchise.

Scott and Giants DE Mathias Kiwanuka, in comments to the New York Daily News, said Limbaugh's racial insensitivity and his controversial comments about black people are gamebreakers that would keep them away from the Rams."

Why do bad things happen to bad people?

And this is because you don't like his opinions or his use of blunt language or the fact that he has the right to voice those opinions?

The lives of African-Americans will be greatly enhanced
because of this sacking. Bravo! Bravo I tell you!

Be Well.

Life sucks when you inevitably have to own up for bad behaviour. Unfortuntely it always going to be the "left's fault" etc for his ill concieved bid for the Rams.
What did he expect after his racist tirades regarding Obama, and NFL teams, comparing them to the crips and bloods. To think that the NFL was going to welcome him as a partner for a team ownership gives the term delusional and drug psychosis a whole new meaning.

Badcat

Don't worry righties. Rush will spin this to make you all look like angels as usual. Just listen some more to the racist and with a few lashes of the tongue, he will convince you all that he was unfairly targeted by Obama and his ilk.

Nothing is ever his fault.

I for one, am glad that this fat racist piece of shit has had the NFL door slammed in his face. Fuck Rush. Fuck the hatemongers.

The Olbwemann crowd who envy the tingles Matthews gets while thinking they are as enlightened as Maddow are out in force on this post.

I for one, am glad that this fat racist piece of shit has had the NFL door slammed in his face. Fuck Rush. Fuck the hatemongers.

#34 | Posted by moder8

And fuck you, idiot. Stick to trip and fall law.

Rush has a valid beef... a deliberate effort to keep him from purchasing something. Yes, there is hypocrisy abounding on the left.

BUT... just as there is free speech... there is no right to be heard. And the NFL can make decisions as to who will be in the running to purchase a franchise... as long, I suspect, that they aren't discriminating based on race, sex, etc.

That said, what is it, specifically, that disqualifies Rush? Especially compared with other minority owners? There a political litmus test one must pass?

One thing that stinks here, to me anyway, is that none of this should have been made public. Someone leaked this info explicitly to screw Limbaugh, in direct violation of a non-disclosure agreement.

Nothing is ever his fault.

#33 | Posted by RingMaster

It's his fault that he wanted to be a partner in the deal? You and Moder8 are 2 pea's in a retarded pod.

Rush Limbaugh now:

"The biggest problem I face in the current climate of political correctness is that I'm color-blind about it... I don't see [Obama] as black. I see him as president of the United States... I treat people as equals... I don't condescend to people... I'm color-blind."

Rush Limbaugh then:

"We are being told that we have to hope [Obama] succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles ... because his father was black."

"I do believe" Obama is an "angry black guy."

"[I]n Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering."

Obama is "more African in his roots than he is American."

"Barack, The Magic Negro."

"If only President Obama had known that the three Somali community organizers(pirates) were actually young, black Muslim teenagers, I'm sure he wouldn't have given the order to shoot."

"The government's been taking care of [young blacks] their whole lives."

Limbaugh says Democrats' interest in Darfur is securing black "voting bloc."

If "feminazis" had remembered to oppose "affirmative action for black guys ... they wouldn't face the situation they face today."

Limbaugh declares basketball "the favorite sport of gangs."

"The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."

"NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips."

And the NFL can make decisions as to who will be in the running to purchase a franchise... as long, I suspect, that they aren't discriminating based on race, sex, etc.

#37 | Posted by OohRah at 2009-10-14 08:52 PM

LOL

I for one, am glad that this fat racist piece of shit has had the NFL door slammed in his face. Fuck Rush. Fuck the hatemongers.

as I'm sure all the current NFL owners are shining examples of racial tolerance without any racists tendencies.

LOL

The other owners don't want a camera hog. Period.

WisGod refers to another poster as a "retard". LOL

Why the LOL? I'd have thought a lib would agree with that statement.

That said, what is it, specifically, that disqualifies Rush?

Read my post #29. More than one player has said that he would not play for any team that is owned by Rush. That alone would make me think twice.

WisGod refers to another poster as a "retard". LOL

#42 | Posted by moder8

Yes I did
LOL
You and Ringmaster.
LOL, waterhead.
Now go post a thread about how I picked on you and Represent all that is bad with Conservatives. How you've been picked on since the early days by Conservatives on the playground.
How the Conservative jocks never picked you until last in high school phy-ed sports.
And how the Conservative Judges find you in in contempt for being an idiot everytime you represent a jaywalker
LOL

Rush wasn't allowed because he's a loud mouth, insulting jerk.

It's just that simple.

I'm glad the NFL decided against him.

NESS-
If Rush were an owner, would Rush be within his rights to say he'd refuse to sign a player he determined to be a jerk?

Can you think of any other company where, when told of a possible change in ownership... that the new ownership was denied based on the public comments of a few employees?

Question for you. If Rush is such a racist, why would he want to involve himself in an entity which is something like 70% minority and where blacks earn multi-million dollar contracts?

This comes down to creating controversy. The NFL would welcome his dollars but doesn't want to endure the focus of attention on an owner and the potential negative publicity he'd bring.

My concern is that it's the "type" of controversy which is being singled out. What about rappers or other artists who have objectionable lyrics? What about in the NBA where you have a sitting US Senator in ownership?

If Michael Moore tried to help purchase the Lions, would that be an issue to you and others like Rush's efforts have been?

More than one player has said that he would not play for any team that is owned by Rush.
Posted by ness_gadol

More than one player was a fucking idiot who doesn't understand the idea of majority and minority ownership. Care to guess a color?

Rush is not going to care about this. He'll make more jokes about it and he is the target for his politics comments.

His ratings are going to skyrocket.

Yes--it's a NFL 'club'.

And since when do players give a crap as long as the money is paid?

And who is responsible for the lying comments attributed to Rush?

There you have a gangsta rapper Jay-Z owning the Nets and not a peep because --I guess--he's black and it's ok to say the n-word--that Sharpton buried a couple of years ago.

And Monte--how is that tingle up your leg that Rush can't file a lawsuit?

I'm glad the NFL decided against him.

#46 | Posted by Lisa

He was a minority partner. But you wouldn't judge the majority based on one person, right Mother Superior?

"If Michael Moore tried to help purchase the Lions, would that be an issue to you and others like Rush's efforts have been?"

It depends. Has Michael Moore ever likened the NFL to a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons?

And since when do players give a crap as long as the money is paid?

Since Rush tried to get into owning NFL teams. I wouldn't want to play if it made him money.

Has Michael Moore ever likened the NFL to a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons?

#51 | Posted by Danforth

No, but I think he would send any member of the team to Cuba before declaring them active or in-active.

It depends. Has Michael Moore ever likened the NFL to a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons?

#51 | Posted by Danforth

When they acted like Artest--how would YOU describe it??

I wouldn't want to play if it made him money.

#52 | Posted by Alexandrite

We're discussing football, not Bridge, Sally.

Truth and satire--it's a drag...

We're discussing football, not Bridge, Sally.

#55 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-14 09:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

I forgot, you get snippy when talking about sweaty guys in pads tackling each other. Keep your boner rage to yourself.

I forgot, you get snippy when talking about sweaty guys in pads tackling each other. Keep your boner rage to yourself.

#57 | Posted by Alexandrite

Do you want to change the subject to Rush buying Summers Eve? I'm sure you'd feel more comfortable.

You cried when Limbaugh failed to get the RAMS, didn't you?

You cried when Limbaugh failed to get the RAMS, didn't you?

#59 | Posted by Alexandrite

Not at all. Bad investment. They suck.

I heard that Sharpton is going to one up him and try to buy the Tuskegee Institute Team.

Sharpton is pissed he didn't get a check from Rush First before Rush wasn't admitted to the 'club'.

WISBOY is pissed because his man got what he deserved, a boot in the ass. Rush was publicly humiliated by an organization that he can't buy, can't influence and can't force them to comply to his low life standards. It's not about politics this time, it's all about not wanting a racist asshole in the league. In fact the only influence Rush has on the league now, is his own toilet mouth, will now be viewed as sour grapes no matter what he pukes up. If he even tries to sue, it will expose his hypocrisy even more. Lawyers and scholars will scour his own recorded words like flies on ripe shit. Rush will eventually go down in flames with the rest of the neo-cons and in the end even history will not be consoling. His best bet and people like Wisgod's too, is to just shut the fuck up at this point in the debate.

I don't see why anyone on the left, right or center would celebrate this. The racist extortionists won again on a fictitious statements and political sentiment.

Next time it could be you.

He may have legal recourse. Goodell said himself "divisive comments are not what the N.F.L. is all about."

Goodell may be required to prove Rush said those things he is basing that comment on because his statement is a big reason Rush is out.

"Goodell may be required to prove Rush said those things he is basing that comment on because his statement is a big reason Rush is out."

Are you joking? The recorded quotes aren't enough for you?

It's not about politics this time, it's all about not wanting a racist asshole in the league.

#63 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009-10-14 10:18 PM

You can't prove Rush is a racist.

That's about the dumbest thing I have heard.

You can prove Vick tortured and killed dogs and that's A-OK with you but you THINK Rush is a racist and that must be banned.

Get the fuck out of here with that weak ass logic.

"You can't prove Rush is a racist. "

Who needs to, when Rush has done so much by himself?

"Goodell may be required to prove Rush said those things he is basing that comment on because his statement is a big reason Rush is out."

Are you joking? The recorded quotes aren't enough for you?

#65 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-14 10:36 PM

Not by a long shot. You got any good examples?

"You can't prove Rush is a racist. "

Who needs to, when Rush has done so much by himself?

#67 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-14 10:38 PM

You do.

On account your making that claim.

Funny how that works.

"You do."

Oh well. I guess if you are a conservative, you aren't allowed to buy things anymore. That'll teach us to shut up.

I suppose if Bill Maher wanted to buy an NFL team, he'd be prevented from doing so. Right?

Rush ought to think about sponsoring a Nascar racer. He'd be welcome there and he'd fit right in.

And fuck you, idiot. Stick to trip and fall law.

#36 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-14 08:51 PM | Reply | Flag: Can't keep his DR lawyers straight

"How the Conservative jocks never picked you until last in high school phy-ed sports.

#45 | Posted by wisgod"

You had conservative jocks in high school? What a bunch of fucking dorks. At my high school we concerned ourselves with getting laid, winning games, getting laid, going to parties, getting laid, drinking, getting laid, and getting laid. I can honestly say that I had no idea what the political persuasion of any of my teammates was, and I doubt they did either. You must've gone to a high school full of weenies.

And this is because you don't like his opinions or his use of blunt language or the fact that he has the right to voice those opinions?

I don't like Rush Limbaugh because spreads ridiculous lies about Democrats, liberals and any other group that he hates. He's made millions degrading our politics. News like this makes me happy because it reinforces the fact that outside his AM radio ghetto, he isn't fit for decent society. And he knows it. The NFL thinks he's toxic.

Republicans should be as fed up with him as I am. It's not like he's doing your party any favors. Following the advice of extremists like Rush is one of the reasons you're in the minority.

"And since when do players give a crap as long as the money is paid?

#49 | Posted by MURPHY"

Well, at least since el Rushbo wanted to buy a team. You see, I can read, including the post above that quotes those players you seem so confused about.

"Oh well. I guess if you are a conservative, you aren't allowed to buy things anymore. That'll teach us to shut up.

#71 | Posted by JOE"

Joe's so stupid he thinks the rest of the owners of NFL teams are liberals. I feel sorry for the lawyer he's a paralegal for.

"You do."

Done.
www.snopes.com

"On account your making that claim."

Your turn, to address every one of the actual quotes. Funny how that works. If you don't address all the quotes, I'll assume you agree Rush is a racist.

#70 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-14 10:44 PM

As usual you miss the point entirely.

Snopes can not even attribute those quotes to Rush.

#1 and 2.... no source

#3 snopes didn't address (did you read that link?)

#4 no racial connotation

#5 Yeah, he said that during all the gang stuff going on. No reference to race.

#6 Indirect, snopes cant verify.

#7 No source

#8 He says he said that 19 years ago but snopes does not note the context.

#9 McNabb, his comment was directed at the media. As far as McNabb being overated, well a lot of Eagles fans agreed regardless of his race.

Not enough to prove the man is a racist.

But I do agree you assume too much.

"And Monte--how is that tingle up your leg that Rush can't file a lawsuit?

#49 | Posted by MURPHY"

I never said that, sMurphy. You need to learn to read. I hope he does file a lawsuit. What I said is that, if he did, it would fail.

I feel sorry for the lawyer he's a paralegal for.
#77 | Posted by mOntecOre

Playing devil's advocate... Joe is better than 90% of the paralegals out there... speaking from experience.

Sorry Joe.

Sorry Monte.

Mato thinks crips and bloods are diverse. I'm running out of idiot flags for you morons, but that deserves one.

Not only is my paralegal a better legal analyst than Joey, my legal secretary is better. In Joey's defense, he has pointed out that he's not really trying when he posts his legal analyses here. I give him the benefit of the doubt on this because, if he was as obtuse as he usually makes himself look here, he couldn't graduate even from the lower middle tier law school he says he attended.

Oh well. I guess if you are a conservative, you aren't allowed to buy things anymore.

Hell, anyone who would make a stupid comment like that should be kept out of business altogether. If you morons can't figure out why Rush was given the boot, why would the rest of society want you doing anything at all to further screw things up?

At any rate the argument is totally lame, because there is plenty of conservative owners and part owners throughout the league.

Rush is out because he is a talking asshole. Get over it.

Mato thinks crips and bloods are diverse. I'm running out of idiot flags for you morons, but that deserves one.

#81 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-10-14 11:09 PM

Dude, who is the racist?

You think the bloods and crips are all black?

Talk about prejudice.

"#4 no racial connotation"

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. Referencing white government, Ethiopia, etc, has no racial connotation.

"Yeah, he said that during all the gang stuff going on. No reference to race."

The Bloods and Crips aren't a reference to race?

"McNabb, his comment was directed at the media."

Not when he claimed McNabb was overrated.
"I have simply said that their desire for McNabb to do well has caused them to rate him a little higher than perhaps he actually is"
~RL

Using raw numbers alone, McNabb ranks with:
Mark Brunell, Roger Staubach*, Steve McNair, Troy Aikman*, Terry Bradshaw*, Jim Everett, Jim Kelly*, Joe Namath*, Trent Green, Ken Stabler
* = Hall of Famer

"my legal secretary is better"

LOL... was that really necessary?!

But here's my point, he's 10 times the lawyer of an Orly Taitz... at least we can agree about that.

Hyperbole here only works as troll tactics.

don't feel too sorry for the guy - - he makes lemonaid from lemons

the last time was the Harry Reid & Co letter to his boss demanding he be fired for the "phony soldier" comment - -

Rush ratings went thru the roof & he auctioned the letter for $2 million plus -
which went to charity

while some have mentioned him being held to a higher burden of proof as a public figure - - that would be for liable only/with no damages

however, after the Rams are sold (to whomever), DAMAGES WILL HAVE BEEN LEGALLY ESTABLISHED - - -

after he's done with NBC & ESPN, & minions he might buy the Twins

I'd bet there are lawyers lining up for a shot at Sharpton & Jackson - -
it would be a beautiful thing to see both of them twistin' in the wind on the wrong end of a lawsuit

Using raw numbers alone, McNabb ranks with:

Frick you are stupid.

Just because people say white or black does not mean hey are racist.

Although you and Monte are probably prejudicial just because as soon as you hear blood and crips you think all black. But that something you two have to deal with.

I heard that Sharpton is going to one up him and try to buy the Tuskegee

ooh good one wisclod--i'm sure that got a lot of yuks in plover..

"You think the bloods and crips are all black?

Talk about prejudice.

#84 | Posted by Mato"

Nah, you're right. Their membership pretty much mirrors overall society.

"But here's my point, he's 10 times the lawyer of an Orly Taitz... at least we can agree about that.

#87 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine"

I think Orly might be his mom. She taught him everything she knew.

Nah, you're right. Their membership pretty much mirrors overall society.

Mato and his big brother: noadventure.files.wordpress.co
m

#91 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-10-14 11:25 PM

Those are your words, not mine.

I was pointing out how you and Danforth just assume that bloods and crips means BLACK.

That is how your condemning Rush.

It's more a reflection on your racist thinking than any he may have.

"I was pointing out how you and Danforth just assume that bloods and crips means BLACK."

If you don't think Rush was making that assumption, you're either an apologist, or a schmuck.

"Just because people say white or black does not mean hey are racist."

Yeah...once. But a pattern is a pattern.

Keep assuming, Danforth.

It's much easier than dealing with facts and actually analyzing stuff. That takes so much effort.

Apparently, my work here is done.

Yeah...once. But a pattern is a pattern.

ummmmmm

Once is not a pattern. LOL!

OK, now I am done.

There is NO such thing as a white or Latino "Bloods" or "Crips" chapter. Were you serious, MATO?

"Keep assuming, Danforth.'

Keep pretending, Mato. Keep denying the obvious.

And fuck you, idiot. Stick to trip and fall law.

#36 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-14 08:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Awwwww....someone is tender. First, the Wasilla HillBlly doesn't get near the Presidency and now your false-prophet dones't get his way. Booooo-Hoooo.

I was pointing out how you and Danforth just assume that bloods and crips means BLACK.

That is how your condemning Rush.

It's more a reflection on your racist thinking than any he may have.

Nice Headline, btw.

His best bet and people like Wisgod's too, is to just shut the fuck up at this point in the debate.

#63 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009-10-14 10:18 PM | Reply | Flag: THINKS HE IS A CHARACTER IN "THE FOUNTAINHEAD"

i here snoop dog,puffy combs and mike tyson are putting in a bid,so much better then rush.

Rush,,, nothing wrong with him owning a part of a football team. Just the left wanting to attempt to get to him. So childish, but they are that way.

Just the left wanting to attempt to get to him.

Funny, I didn't realize all those football players coaches and owners were leftists. Thank you for the illumination. *rolls eyes*

Look, Limbaugh has a history of racism and race baiting. Think black players or team owners with black players on said teams want to put up with them not playing in protest?

Think again. Football is a business, and bad PR is bad for business. Try telling your sponsors half the team won't play because it would make rush money.

This was a business decision, and rush's words kept him from getting what he wanted. Speech has consequences... Get over it.

WISBOY is pissed because his man got what he deserved, a boot in the ass.
Posted by Ringmaster (AKA Emmett Kelly)

Do you really think I care, asspipe? I'll bet you still think he was the only one involved in the offer, twit.

Muntsore, the fact that you choose to make things up just for the sake of ripping on a stranger is revealing if nothing else. Maybe you are insecure about being an ambulance chaser, and a bad one at that. Or maybe you're a loser with nothing better to do than attack a stranger who rarely addresses you. Either way, myself and the other lawyers I work with laugh at scumbags like you. Better go put an ad in the phonebook, you fucking loser. Someone's neck is sore and they need your help.

And fuck you, idiot. Stick to trip and fall law.

#36 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-14 08:51 PM | Reply | Flag: Can't keep his DR lawyers straight

#73 | Posted by mOntecOre

Maybe not, but that comment was directed at a shyster, not a lawyer.

This comes down to creating controversy. The NFL would welcome his dollars but doesn't want to endure the focus of attention on an owner and the potential negative publicity he'd bring.

#47 | Posted by OohRah

And, the Eagles have Vick, not the Rams.

"Maybe not, but that comment was directed at a shyster, not a lawyer."

Joe again, eh?

It's been pathetic to see all the opportunistic political demagogues on all sides come out on the cable scream-fest "news" channels. (Is a potential minority owner of a lousy NFL team really a pressing issue in America?)

It's allowed both sides to cloud the situation with their own hackneyed "gotcha" agendas. Reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton should try to help the downtrodden rather than score cheap publicity. Anyone who attributed inflammatory quotes to Limbaugh that he never said should pay the consequences.

sports.yahoo.com

#21 | Posted by Dave at 2009-10-14 07:25 PM

If Rush is such a racist, why would he want to involve himself in an entity which is something like 70% minority and where blacks earn multi-million dollar contracts?
.......#47 | Posted by OohRah

....he is quoted as also saying that slavery was a good thing.....and that was a 100% minority business......

But yet, here you are posting in his defense, eh?

Hilarryous livedead and dave

For the rest of the rushaddict supporters:

I believe it's instructive for the country to see that this kind of racist demagogery has consequences......all the hidden racism from people who support such bs, and call it "satire" are seeing that they aren't in the majority, but a tiny minority of moronic leftovers from decades passed. Racist jokes are not satire at all, but hate speech hiding behind supposed comedy that only racists find humorous.

Try this: Go up to the next black man you see on the street, pick a young burly fellow, and call him a "little black man-child."

Let me know how funny he thinks it is....after you wake up from your coma.

Then, realize, multimillionaire rushbo, with his gated community and 24/7 protection and his corporate rw megaphone can spew whatever racist bs he wants, or so he thinks, but he wouldn't do so face to face to anyone, similar to his progeny, the rw trolls here on the internet...hiding behind their computer screens in their momma's basement.

Wait, do trailers have basements?

#115 | Posted by woke

You forgot to add "THINK" at the end of your post, dickbag.

I can't believe all of you who are saying things like the NFL doesn't need a guy like Rush. The NFL is filled with old white and probably racist owners. Not to mention complete assholes like Al Davis. If Rush is as bad as you sayi he is then he would have fit right in with the rest of the owners. Not one of you have thought about the current ownership of the NFL. Think Jerry Jones.

Wait, do trailers have basements?

#116 | Posted by woke

Sure. And elevators too, you idiot.

Either way, myself and the other lawyers I work with laugh at scumbags like you. Better go put an ad in the phonebook, you fucking loser. Someone's neck is sore and they need your help.

#109 | Posted by JOE

Hahahaha. I wonder what the other shysters think when they see Angry Joe at the computer all red-faced with bulging neck veins pounding at his keyboard. They might want to consider stocking some pepper spray, stun guns, a spare straight jacket, etc.

Whatever made this racist blowhard think he would be accepted in polite society, his money no doubt, wasn't enough to overcome years of hate speech.

I would have thought his blunt admission the other day that he is in radio solely for the money and not at all for his conservative dittoheads, would have been enough for at least some of them to ask for their integrity back.

Guess not.

-Think Jerry Jones

Jerry Jones a racist? What a moron.

jeffy-you forgot to post any substance again

everhard-your head, eh? uh, how many of those owners spew racist bs on radio each day? they may also be racist, but know which side of the bread their butter is on and know that rush has been outed for his racist statements, which would not be good for business....

wisbang-another thoughtful post on your part, eh?

i can't wait to see what the other white victims of minority racism that love rushaddict have to say.....you know, your lil rw troll circle jerk buddies.....I'm sure they will weigh in soon.....if they haven't already...

Woke,

Do you ever tire of being a speed-bag?

The NFL is filled with old white and probably racist owners.
#118 | Posted by everlong

.......true......but they have the good sense not to let their opions get in the way of their making money......

jeffy

don't you ever get tired of making knee jerk reactionary posts with no substance whatsoever??

try THINKING about the topic and posting something that makes sense from your own opinion, instead of just thinking insults like a fat, overblown drug addict like rush, says is material to a substantive post

I know it's hard for those who've allowed that kind of nonsensical indoctrination daily for so long....

Woke,

Do you ever tire of being a speed-bag?

#124 | Posted by JeffJ

Thanks, Jeff. A 30 page proposal shot to hell when the coffee from my mouth hit it.

Woke,

You are a poor-man's Redneckville.

Sorry Wis.

You forgot to add "THINK" at the end of your post, dickbag.

#117 | Posted by JeffJ

Awwww. Did Woke piss in your Cherrios? LOL.

Awwww. Did Woke piss in your Cherrios? LOL.

#130 | Posted by nullifidian

Pissing is one thing, but sitting on the bowl is another.

"Since We're Making Up Quotes for Media Figures...

Chris Matthews: "...I've often fantasized about Janet Reno, dressed in a corset and lace stockings, using a riding crop on me. That sends a thrill up my flanks."

Maureen Dowd: "Anothersh Tanq-and-tonic, shweety? *hic*"

Keith Olbermann: "Yes, it's true that I've been both the subject and the object of a unique device known to some as a 'strap-on'."

Brian Williams: "Bounce and sheen, not just volume, are the key to an anchorman's hair. Believe me when I tell you this -- I'm deadly serious, here."

Charlie Gibson: "You really can see Russia from Alaska? What the f***? I'm sick of these f***ing embarrassments -- someone's getting fired!"

It's truly shocking that these made-up quotes haven't gotten more attention from the press."

#132 | Posted by KBM at 2009-10-15 09:53 AM | Reply | Flag

Do you get paid to post cut-and-paste jobs and links all day, astroturfer? Or do you just not have a life? Or are you Niceville?

OBAMAS AMERICA

Yes, in Obama's America blowhard racists don't get to play with the big kids.

rush says that he will sue..
and lawyers on one network say that since he now has been kept from profiting he has a good case

hey rush

sue the motherfawkers for every goddamned penny they have and what they might get in the future.

AND the one comment used by most of the assholes does not exist.

the philly qb comment is not racist and anyone with any sense at all can LOOK at the players at the tattoes and body piercing and hair and see what the satirical comment about crips and bloods was about...

ah but that doesnt matter in
OBAMAS OPPRESSIVE AMERICA

one more here

KIETH OLBERMAN is an employee of the NFL through nbc...

so the difference??

easy...he's a piece of shit liberal who supports obama.....and he has called people like michelle malkin...about 6 names in a row ending with "a piece of meat with lipstick"
so much for the fuckin NFL standards...

and chris matthews now has been recorded dreaming about rush being 'blown up' like a movie chraracter

will they be punished by thier networks,.

fuck no....are you kidding?????

OBAMAS OPPRESSIVE AMERICA
#137 | Posted by afkabl2

How, exactly, have you been oppressed since late-January 2009?

C'mon, get it off your chest so you won't cry yourself to sleep at night and spend the day whining on the DR (courtesy of Ms. Abadon's gubmint-owned compooterizer down at the Wildorado Vet School, Nail Saloon, Puzzle Palace & Libarry).

Yes, in Obama's America blowhard racists don't get to play with the big kids.

#135 | Posted by Corky at 2009-10

no but marxists and socialists and statists and CHILD sex and abuse advocates can not only run wild but run things...and GIVE TAX MONEY To acorn and other groups

BL2, you are blithering again.

Wipe the drool off your lip before the librarian sees it and gets the wrong(?) impression.

IF I am forced to change into a govt health care system with out my consent

if I am forced to pay a tax on my health care because its TOO EXPENSIVE...up to 40%..only a fuckin liberal statists prsident could get that bullshit through..

if the right of free speech is limited because libs cant compete in the center of ideas called talk radio...

well those are good for starters...have to take time out to get a tissue to cry for my country..the one that USED to be the greatest country on earth..
richest and most benelovent.

and once again...
good people like corkster and doc just dont want to see what this white house is doing to the foundation of our freedom and liberty...
too bad.....

-what this white house is doing to the foundation of our freedom and liberty...

THE sad part is the people who have been indoctrinated by the likes of Rushbo, who, btw, admitted that he cares only for the money and doesn't give a flying fuck about his dittoheads, into believing such nonsense.

Awwww. Did Woke piss in your Cherrios? LOL.

#130 | Posted by nullifidian

Pissing is one thing, but sitting on the bowl is another.

#131 | Posted by wisgod

She had a bowl movement?

Wisgod, was the bowl on the floor, table, countertop, bed?

oh corky....

lets review

so you say that rush has indoctrinatad me but you havent been indocrtrinated by any part of the media because your message is the truth..maybe?? is that it...

of course there is also me being just a redneck conservative from a texas trailor park where my cousin is waiting in the bedroom and the old FORD FALCON is rusting away on one side of the yard,...

I guess there is that..

NOT....

AGAIN>>>>I will put the diveristy of my 'watch list' up against anyone else...whether it be tv or radio or print.

Wisgod, was the bowl on the floor, table, countertop, bed?

#146 | Posted by Petrous

Not sure. Ask JeffJ. It was his cherrios, right Null?

what was that about how obama is oppressing the couhtry

oh here's one little way.

IF...
if...
if...
#142 | Posted by afkabl2

In other words, you are not oppressed in what you call "Obama's America."

So, what, exactly, is the source of your incessant whining and jellied-knees fear?

Please, feel free to use the gubmint-owned and -supplied compooterizer at the Wildorado Libarry, Large Bovin De-Nutting Plant & Frijole Jelly Emporium.

Awwww. Did Woke piss in your Cherrios? LOL.

#130 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-10-15 09:49 AM | Flag: Woke's Sidekick

But yet, here you are posting in his defense, eh?

Hilarryous livedead and dave

For the rest of the rushaddict supporters:

I believe it's instructive for the country to see that this kind of racist demagogery has consequences......all the hidden racism from people who support such bs, and call it "satire" are seeing that they aren't in the majority, but a tiny minority of moronic leftovers from decades passed. Racist jokes are not satire at all, but hate speech hiding behind supposed comedy that only racists find humorous.

Try this: Go up to the next black man you see on the street, pick a young burly fellow, and call him a "little black man-child."

#115 | Posted by woke at 2009-10-15 09:13 AM

*points at Woke*

LOL! What a retard!

WISBOY is pissed because his man got what he deserved, a boot in the ass.

...and now some of the right wing morons have to actually do some research to come up with more sleazy insults for anyone who dares laugh.

Of couse, they learned all their literary skills from their mentor Rushbo, but still, you would think there has to be some shred of humor left even for weasels.

After all, this whole debacle is absolutely hilarious. Anyone who can't see the humor in this needs to get a real life.

rush..

SUE the bastard for every fuckin penny he's got

So, what, exactly, is the source of your incessant whining and jellied-knees fear?

Please, feel free to use the gubmint-owned and -supplied compooterizer at the Wildorado Libarry, Large Bovin De-Nutting Plant & Frijole Jelly Emporium.

#150 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 200

fox news
fox business network
cspan
cnn
cnbc...RARELY but sometimes

new york times online
houston chronicle
usatoday

the DRUDGE RETORT..

Anyone else notice the irony in Rush's statement about folks lying, where he lies about a State-run media?

Well you go on ESPN and say dumb shit that basically indicates you can't objectively evaluate a black guy playing QB and you end up alienating half the league. Then you go to buy a team and the half of the league you pissed off calls the comish. And now the comish has to consider having a team in the league who black players are going to avoid whenever possible.

Not worth it. The Rams suck enough as it is.

Rush fucked up when he tried to translate his "liberal media biased in favor of blacks" schtick to the world of sports - which unlike politics is largely a meritocracy. Mistakes have consequences.

After all, this whole debacle is absolutely hilarious. Anyone who can't see the humor in this needs to get a real life.

#153 | Posted by RingMaster

when the shoe is on that other foot, its not so funny

AND its time for someone to take down jesse jackson

the adulterous lying sack of shit's time has come and gone.
hold him accountable for the lies that have led to a man losing future profits by the spreading of those lies...
and according to tv lawyers..YEAH YEAH I KNOW, tv lawyeers...he has a case and a good one.

Anyone else notice the irony in Rush's statement about folks lying, where he lies about a State-run media?

#156 | Posted by Danforth at

now you are making up shit about what a lie is.

its a little exagerated phrase meant to describe all of the 'chris matthews' obama ass kissers in the media.
and there IS THAT 8:30 phone call from rhom's office to carville and begala at cnn...WHICH they have not denied as far as I have seen.

Rush fucked up when he tried to translate his "liberal media biased in favor of blacks" schtick to the world of sports - which unlike politics is largely a meritocracy. Mistakes have consequences.

#157 | Posted by Sully at 2009-10-15

in the two cases his mistake was speaking his mind and not being politically correct enough. the philly qb comment was not about him but about the media

and the blood and crips comment

well just look at a lot of the players and tell me they couldnt pass for gang members on the street at night....but it was STILL not a racist comment.

Rush fucked up when he tried to translate his "liberal media biased in favor of blacks" schtick to the world of sports - which unlike politics is largely a meritocracy. - SULLY

You are forgetting the Rooney rule in the NFL. Got Tomlin hired in PIT.

I agree completely elcid

but he does have a super bowl ring now...

"The NFL is filled with old white and probably racist owners."

#118 | Posted by everschlong

And they're the ones who won't let Rush join their little club.

"in the two cases his mistake was speaking his mind and not being politically correct enough. the philly qb comment was not about him but about the media"

Yeah but it was an assinine comment to make. Anyone who follows the NFL knows that McNabb is a legitimate Pro-Bowl quaterback. His personal stats, the Eagle's W-L record when he's in versus when he's out, scouts, coaches etc etc etc all point to McNabb being a very effective player.

The player he was talking about is not overrated by the media and never has been. Nobody else in the world aside from Rush has ever claimed otherwise. So Rush has something clouding his judgement.... Get it?

"You are forgetting the Rooney rule in the NFL. Got Tomlin hired in PIT."

McNabb isn't a coach. You don't get quaterbacking jobs because you're black. Other teams don't let you beat them because you're black. To say race has anything to do with McNabb's success or any praise he gets is assinine - and it very strongly indicates the person saying it has some kind of bias.

As for rules about interviewing minority coaches, I don't like those quotas. I would think that given Tomlin's job performance, there may have been other reasons to hire him though.

kbm

So, do you really believe that the racist rush quotes, documented by media matters and others, are made up, rather than actual, verified transcripts??

I would have thought you would have heard them with your ear placed so closely to his "truthcave".

That perhaps shows why your opinions are so woefully unadorned with veracity.....and you quote washtime's headlines.

Did you notice how I posted actual parts of the article from the wash times link you posted on the more troops to Afghanisgtan thread? It shows exactly how their headline misrepresents facts,

(U.S. troop funds diverted to pet projects), pretending our troops are being shorted for worthless pork projects....

........Then, folks like yourself read those headlines or first few lines, without actually reading all the article, and then continue to misrepresent the actual facts of the situation....

Here's what was in the actual content of the article compared to the disengenuous, misrepresentation of their headline:

Honest questions: was Rush turned down for the things he said or because a white person said them? Would the things be as racist coming from the mouth of a black man and would that therefore not make Rush's being turned down also a racial issue if it is not the deeds he did, but the color of his skin?

Just questions.

"The NFL is filled with old white and probably racist owners."

#118 | Posted by everschlong

And they're the ones who won't let Rush join their little club.
#163 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD AT 2009-10-15 12:01 PM

Excellent point, of course it will be lost on the less than critical thinkers who listen and support rushaddict....

I can't believe this is still being discussed.

lol

"It's all George Soro's fault, I THINK he's behind all of this. He supports legalizing pot too!"

"The Obama Administration is taking over football and that's why I can't buy a team."

"I am not sad for me. I am sad for America that I can't buy a football team."

- Rush Limbaugh 10-15-09

How stupid do you have to be to listen to this fucker?

"now you are making up shit about what a lie is."

Gee...the serial 'fuckin liar' wants to move to goalposts as far as what constitutes a lie. No surprise there.

Report:

How stupid do you have to be to listen to this fucker?

#170 | Posted by Manypaths

I much prefer also looking at the person talking. That's why tune into Cooze-face Maddow at night.

"Would the things be as racist coming from the mouth of a black man and would that therefore not make Rush's being turned down also a racial issue if it is not the deeds he did, but the color of his skin?"

So now Rush is a victim because everyone in the world except you knows that people tend to be prejudiced against others and not their own group?

Ridiculous.

Rush is a stupid blowhard whose mouth got him in trouble and burned any bridges he has with the NFL. Deal with it.

I just tuned into Rush for a half hour or so and the spin is getting more hilarious by the minute. Now, according to Rush, it's Obama's fault! What's he gonna do now? Sue Obama?

"It's all George Soro's fault, I THINK he's behind all of this. He supports legalizing pot too!"

"The Obama Administration is taking over football and that's why I can't buy a team."

"I am not sad for me. I am sad for America that I can't buy a football team."

- Rush Limbaugh 10-15-09

I can't believe this is still being discussed.

lol

#169 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-10-15 12:26 PM

"Now, according to Rush, it's Obama's fault!"

He has to say that...he has millions of tiny brains screaming to be fed.

#177 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

But still not as important as Bob's Iranian UFO shadow.

But what's your point? Rush is talking about it isn't he.

KBM...Why would you link any propaganda from MRC to this site? Do you really think the liberals here would bother to read that crap? The pubbies here already believe that crap, so why waste the bandwidth?

I just tuned into Rush for a half hour or so and the spin is getting more hilarious by the minute.
Posted by RingMaster at 2009-10-15 01:03 PM

How stupid do you have to be to listen to this fucker?

#170 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-10-15 12:26 PM

RingMaster, Manypaths has a question you are finally qualified to answer.

Way to miss the point Sully. Anyone else want to take a crack at my 167? I am not defending Rush, just asking questions.

It is like to me when I had long hair and could not get a job without a haircut, yet girl were employed with ponytails. That told me it was not my hair that was the issue, but that I was a guy with long hair and that made it sexual discrimination IMHO. So, if a black person can say what Rush said and can own an NFL team, then this is not about what Rush said, but the color of Rush's skin.

I am looking for philosophical discussion, not defense or accusation.

How stupid do you have to be to listen to this fucker?
#170 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-10-15 12:26 PM

Only as stupid as those who post support for him on these threads indicate.....but judging from these and their other posts on other threads, they are indeed intellectually "challenged", and like rush, believe that namecalling, insults and misrepresenting/misinforming are valid forms of debate/discussion.

God Damn it, Woke. Is your fucking yeast infection ever going to clear up?

Sorry wisbang,

I don't have female body parts and give birth to joe mccarthy clones like your hero rushaddict does.....

I don't have female body parts and give birth to joe mccarthy clones like your hero rushaddict does.....

#185 | Posted by woke

Well, you sure as hell cry non-stop like a little bitch. I'll bet the real men in the Military said the same thing.

can't believe this is still being discussed.

lol

#169 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-10

thats because this is much bigger than the story of a man who wanted to own something like a football team
a bad one at that
its about freedom to speak and to be heard and freedom that progressives are hell bent on destroying by any means necessary

FOR INSTANCE>..I find it hard to believe that there has not been a lib post his statements here that people like sharpton and jackson are talking about.
did I MISS it or is it not there..

The traffic on this thread suggests that it is the second most important issue facing the retort today

I guess someone missed the story about Sarah Palin's hairdresser's plumber's sister jaywalked in Juneau.

now you are making up shit about what a lie is."

Gee...the serial 'fuckin liar' wants to move to goalposts as far as what constitutes a lie. No surprise there.

#171 | Posted by Danforth at

thank you for your comment.
I will give it all the concern and attention that it deserves.

ITS ALSO about the left wing ATTACK and chraracter assisination machine that up to now has been unchecked.

EVEN joe the plumber now has someone else basically going through his garbage.
and palin continues to be attacked....

fear and desperation...hallmarks of the democrat party

"thank you for your comment. I will give it all the concern and attention that it deserves."

Are you finally, at long last, going to formally retract the lie about inflation at 20% under Carter, or are you content to remain a "fuckin liar"?

I don't have female body parts and give birth to joe mccarthy clones like your hero rushaddict does.....

#185 | Posted by woke at

pretty amazingly ironic you bring up the name mccarthy.
since rush is being assaulted in much the same way as the senator has been accused of by the left.

"Way to miss the point Sully."

I didn't miss anything. You want us to have a discussion assuming a black guy would say a legitimate All-Pro quaterback is overrated by the media because he's black.

So first you'd have to find a black guy who thinks McNabb is overrated by the media and that he really isn't that good. This person also has to presume he knows enough about the NFL - despite being dead wrong about McNabb according to the rest of the world - to make such a statement confidently on national television. Rush is the only person in the world of any color who fits both these qualifications.

Add in the fact that the black guy in your hypothetical discussion also has to believe that McNabb is the beneficiary of some kind of rampant pro-black racism, and the premise moves from unlikely to completely absurd.

I have already done that if you would check...
the chart that I posted the other day.

sully
NOTHING about the mcnabb comment was racist...
unless you ask some asswipe like jimmah carter or the others who see a racist behind every tree or corner

"I have already done that if you would check...
the chart that I posted the other day."

The chart you posted proved you wrong.

Your claim inflation hit 20% under Carter was a LIE.

Are you going to retract, you fuckin' liar?

AND LISTEN to olberman sometime on his show..
I dont but I hear clips because I will not offer one cent or moment to his show

but HE is allowed to be a member of the nfl team and of course nbc people are approved for the telecast and maybe even get money from them

so the nfl is off base here

to and fro lunch called after caller has called in..THATS WHY they are callers, you see..lol
and said that they have called in to cancel thier nfl tv packages...

goddamn it

I know that dipshit
thats why I posted it..

I will not bend over and ask your exhalted forgiveness so dont waste your breath

IT DID SHOW that it rose under carter and was lowered under reagan..

and the other item, I forget which one was lower than the figure I posted but IT DID SAY THAT it was a historic high.......

"I will not bend over and ask your exhalted forgiveness so dont waste your breath"

Who was asking for forgiveness? I was pressing you to finally tell the truth, and retract what your own link proved was a lie. The only connection I have to it is I know you're a liar, and I called you out on a lie.

But since you clearly won't man up and admit the truth, you are, by your own barometer, a fuckin' liar.

"IT DID SHOW that it rose under carter and was lowered under reagan.."

So what? You claimed it hit 20%, and IT DID SHOW that it didn't hit 20%.

"IT DID SAY THAT it was a historic high......."

So what? Your initial claim wasn't that it was a "historic high". You claimed it hit 20%. Now you're pretending you didn't and that "historic high" is enough. It's not. Either prove it hit 20%, retract the lie, or remain a fuckin' liar.

Well there is karma in the world afterall.

I think most righties misread this headline to say "Limbaugh's sack from NFL bed" and thinks it is about photospread of gay football sex with Rush.

I feel sorry for the group "St. Louis Blues" for they are the ones who are really harmed by all of this.

The group should of made rush sign a contract that he had to keep his mouth shut on the airwaves.

I find myself defending rush here in a small way.

I wonder....ask pitt. steelers if rush knows football........I think they will say he knows football and how to make them winners.

Good thing they wont let Limbaugh be a part owner when we have JayZ the racist, gang memeber, ho banger, glock carry piece of shit as a part owner of a team. THe left cheers the ganster life but hates conservative talk radio.

From a email on the differnce between a conservative and liberal

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, then no one should have one.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is, he wants to ban all meat products for everyone.

If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy.
A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly enjoys his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he loudly demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal wants any mention of God or religion silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it,

or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that his neighbors pay for his.

"NOTHING about the mcnabb comment was racist..."

But you want to look at the comment with no context at all and say it isn't racist.

That isn't realistic. Rush didn't go to some alternate empty vacuum of a universe and make his statement about some imaginary person. He said it in this world.

And in this world, the guy he was talking about is a good quaterback. Rush made his race an issue, not anyone else. So the rest of us are left to wonder how Rush could not only be so wrong about McNabb but why he is accusing everyone else of having their judgement clouded by McNabb's race. Then you put two and two together and figure out that it isn't everyone else who is clouded by McNabb's race, it is Rush.

It doesn't take a genius to figure it out. The guy who brought up the issue of race, as usual, is the one obsessing over race.

#206 | Posted by WI_Hunter

Well no wonder you're pissed. You shoot nothing but little White Tails and your head is filled with untruths.

I keep telling you idiots, your ignorance is at the root of all your frustrations. Only you can change that.

But since you clearly won't man up and admit the truth, you are, by your own barometer, a fuckin' liar.

#200 | Posted by Danforth at

jesus you asshole
I will NOT ask your forgiveness in anything like you are desperately seeking with your attacks and horseshit.
I stand by my last couple of posts on this subject.
you just dont want to admit that carter was as bad a president for this country as obama is turning out to be.

and clips are available of obama lying his ass off time and time again

I posted the figures. and thats that.

From a email on the differnce between a conservative and liberal

As good of an authoritative source as I have ever seen in my life. Move over Encyclopedia Brittanica.

I feel sorry for the group "St. Louis Blues" for they are the ones who are really harmed by all of this.

Posted by moneywar

I heard on ESPN last night they already found another Partner to replace Limbaugh and they are being considered.

I stand by my last couple of posts on this subject.

Will you stand by ALL your posts on the subject babbler?

I feel sorry for the group "St. Louis Blues" for they are the ones who are really harmed by all of this.

The group should of made rush sign a contract that he had to keep his mouth shut on the airwaves.

#204 | Posted by moneywar at 2009

oh yeah right...
rush keeping his mouth shut..I ..uh..dont think thats possible, do you..lol

again, this issue is pointing out a couple of things. the leftwing attack machine is alive and well even if the right wing conspiracy gets all the 'print'...

and anytime you can expose sharpton for instance..
twana brawly and there was some issue about him shaking down some jews somewhere..anyway

him and jackson who both idolize faraquan(sp)

now THERES A RACIST....

I stand by my last couple of posts on this subject.

Will you stand by ALL your posts on the subject babbler?

#212 | Posted by 726 at

I will in the regard of this subject.
I repeated stats on the FAILED carter presidency and upon googleing them, some figures given were incorrect BUT the point was made that unemployment was HIGHER under carter as well as other details of that time

AND THERE WAS A gas shortage in 1979 as well and that was another comment that posters here have tried to call me on and the posted material proved that once and for all.

so I stand by the figure posted that day and if they were different than my original ones..okay they were different but it doesnt change the fact that carter fucked us up royally.
its too bad that NOW that fuck up is pretty minimal compared to this massive takeover and out of control spending.

and thats the end of that tune.

It doesn't take a genius to figure it out. The guy who brought up the issue of race, as usual, is the one obsessing over race.

#207 | Posted by Sully at 2009
okay so lets say you are spot on here

there are a lot of other instances where some of your liberal breathern here have 'poo pooed' it when we have said the same thing about democrats.

and again
the nfl is allowing michael vick to become even richer.
some would say that what he did was much worse than anything rush MAY HAVE said

and of course NOW the point is all of the people who are repeating the comments that they are NOT ABLE to prove that he said.

so it may be that the issue is bigger than the race issue.

and one last question...surely none of you REALLY believe that any of the black atheletes were going to boycott at all??

please...

Aww, look at all the wingnutters who've been grievously wounded, vicariously, by Rush being hoisted with his own petard.

Whatever happened to "personal responsibility"?

Moreover, it really doesn't matter if any of US think Rush is a racist. Several football players - who the game is ultimately all about - have gone on the record to say they wouldn't play for Rush. Owners want the best management, coaching, etc., to attract the best players; without talent on the field, the NFL would simply be another bunch of rich white guys peddling clothing and other assorted memorabilia.

"there are a lot of other instances where some of your liberal breathern here have 'poo pooed' it when we have said the same thing about democrats."

I'm not a democrat. And alot of democrats who constantly bring up race are racists - or even worse: racial opportunists.

Have Sharpton or Jackson complained over being denied an opportunity to join one of the most elite business cliques on the planet?

Of course not, BLT, but you already know this. There is no conspiracy to deny Rush a seat at the table. His own JOB is the prima facia reason he'd never be allowed into NFL ownership regardless of his political bent. Imagine George Soros trying to become a pro sports owner or Larry Flynt or Al Franken during his Air America days. Having very public, divisive, controversial views is NOT the way to join one of the most profitable brands seeking to gain money from EVERYONE regardless of their political bent.

Our owner here in Indy, Jim Irsay is a prominent contributer to the REPUBLICAN PARTY and openly supportive of GOP candidates both locally, statewide and nationally, yet he was the first owner to say Rush was bad for his business and he's absolutely correct on that fact. Every NFL team outside of DC calls either fully-publically-funded stadiums home or at least partially funded ones. So taxpayer money subsidizes the owner's ability to ply their trade. Its not good business to have one of the loudest, most divisive voices on the planet inside your club, ostrasizing the majority of the public which funds your business model.

Not to mention the fact that in the course of doing his job Rush would subject himself to never-ending fines for denigrating much of the paying public which doesn't agree with his views on politics and American society, because anything he says that hurts the NFL brand (and dividing the public into "us's and them's" certainly does) would bring him under Goddell's disciplinary discretion which likely would make Mark Cuban's multi-million dollar fines look like vending machine money by the time Goddell was done.

Ask yourself, is it good business for a minority owner to publically state that HE'S more patriotic, more AMERICAN, and more ELITE, hence more CORRECT than those who disagee with his views? Of course it isn't good business. The NFL owners privately AGREE more with Rush more than likely, but they know the poison of his visage and verbosity will dilute the very brand they've grown over the last 75 years and that simply is intolerable to men who've got billions invested in bringing people together in UNITY, not dividing them out of fear.

best management

ever heard of bob irsay...admitted drug user

and you think JERRY JONES has integrity?

or the guys who stole the cleaveland and the baltimore franchises away in the middle of the night

and DONT EVEN get me started about bud fuckin adams...

and your last comment...sort of racist isnt it..
IM joking....its too bad that all of society doesnt use the same things as the nfl and the nba does

BEST MAN GETS THE JOB...doesnt that sort of fly in the face of affirmative action??

and Im being serious this time
what would affirmative action do on the football field or in the gym..

AND the worst golf scramble to be in is the ones where you have to take at least one shot from each player....same sort of shit.

"And in this world, the guy he was talking about is a good quaterback. Rush made his race an issue, not anyone else. So the rest of us are left to wonder how Rush could not only be so wrong about McNabb but why he is accusing everyone else of having their judgement clouded by McNabb's race. Then you put two and two together and figure out that it isn't everyone else who is clouded by McNabb's race, it is Rush.
It doesn't take a genius to figure it out. The guy who brought up the issue of race, as usual, is the one obsessing over race." - #207 SULLY

My two cents on your post...
Yes, McNabb is/was a good quarterback. That's not Rush's point. His point is that some (not all) sportswriters most definitely kept labeling McNabb as a black quarterback... and, frankly, were clearly rooting for him to be successful. Why would they root for him to be successful? Perhaps because he was black and black QBs hadn't been wildly successfull to that point. They were cheering him on, almost to be able to say, "see, look how far we've come. We have a black man in a position of power."

And yes, at that time McNabb was a decent QB, but a great one? The Philly defense carried that team.

It's not unlike the attention reporters gave Obama... "the first black president, etc". It's my opinion, but I got the sense there was bigger cheering going on for the first black POTUS than there was for the first woman to be POTUS. (Of course, Hillary's personality might have played into that)

SULLY, do you think people (left or right) have cheered Obama on in part or in whole because he was the first black man with a legit shot at POTUS? If not, I could find a slew of commentators who talked of the symbolism, hope, progress, etc.

TONY

There you are

I have been waiting on you to tellyou this story KNOWING your connection

I read a book about the 8th air force and a lot of it was about george mcgovern...

on one mission they were being devastated by germans and right as one was about to take down his B24....a group of planes was seen approaching and took down the german aircraft when none of the others could
mcgovern said he noticed the different markings on the tail and had to ask when he got back in.

YES it was tuskege airmen...

and he then said that he made it a point to travel to thier airbase and personnaly thank them for saving his and his crews life.

JUST thought you might be interested

I cant remember the name of the book but it was all about the 8th air force...my dads unit..

later...

"...its about freedom to speak and to be heard and freedom that progressives are hell bent on destroying by any means necessary."

#187 | Posted by afkabl2

Wrong again babble master!

The NFL owner LEADING the charge AGAINST Limpballs is COLTS owner Jim Irsay, one of the most CONSERVATIVE if not THE most conservative person in the NFL!

Ya see REAL conservatives despise the BS slingers like Limpballs!

One HAS to wonder if RUSHBO even believes the shit he spews out! He knows damn good and well this deal has NOTHING to do with "the ongoing effort by the left ... to destroy conservatism..." as he stated on his radio show.

Once again REAL conservatives who are educated individuals despise the hate mongers like RUSHBO who whip up the ignorant people LIKE YOURSELF, oh babbleing one!

Conservatives are as much opposed to RUSHBO getting in the NFL as the leftists are!

Rush says this is not about him.

Rush says this is not about the NFL.

Rush says this is not about the St. Louis Rams.

RUSH LIES!

And he knows it! I am sure he doesn't even believe his own hype. Rushbo would love to take this as an opportunity to slam his opponents on the left.

But his REAL opponents to this deal are CONSERVATIVES within the NFL like Irsay who stated:

"I met Rush only once. He seemed like a nice guy to me. It's bigger than the NFL. As a nation, and as a world, we've got to watch our words and our thoughts. They can do damage."

Words.

Words that RUSHBO said.

Then tried to claim he never did.

That is what liars do.

RUSH LIES!

FLUSH RUSH!!

"will NOT ask your forgiveness"

My 'forgiveness' has nothing to do with anything. This is all about your willingness to be a fuckin' liar, and your refusal to retract a blatant lie.

"I stand by my last couple of posts on this subject."

Then you're a fuckin liar. You lied about inflation numbers under Carter, you posted two links, both proving you lied about it, and since then, you've refused to retract your lie. That makes you what you blithely call Obama at every turn: a fuckin' liar.

"you just dont want to admit that carter was as bad a president for this country as obama is turning out to be."

You're moving the goalposts. This has nothing to do with how good or bad a president Carter was or Obama is. It has to do with you making up a number that was a lie, and not being man enough to admit you lied about it.

"and clips are available of obama lying his ass off time and time again"

You've lost all credibility to call anyone a liar if you won't admit your own lies.

"I posted the figures. and thats that."

And the figures you posted prove you're a fuckin' liar.

Gee, that medicine doesn't taste very good when you're forced to have some of your own, does it? The fact remains, YOU LIED ABOUT CARTER.

Thanks BLT for relating that story. My dad passed away 4 years ago Christmas, but the last 10 years of his life were remarkable as Americans rediscovered the contributions of the Tuskegee Airmen and bestowed so much love and respect to these aging heroes.

Obama's committee invited and paid for all living Airmen to attend the inauguration in January and my mom was disappointed she wasn't able to go. Those men never could have dreamed of the day the country they loved would elect someone who looked like them President because the man earned the right just like they did.

As it regards Rush, I just read the story from last week's SI about the NFL's Jackie Robinson, Kenny Washington and another man who's name now escapes me. The Limbaugh comments about McNabb look so shallow when faced with the reality that a black man both quarterbacked and coached a successful professional football team in a league that preceeded the NFL back in the 1920's, yet for decades ALL blacks were denied any opportunity to play professionally in the NFL, while the neo-nazis marched in DC with comical signs saying "Keep our Redskins White(!)" during the early 60's before they were forced to integrate because the stadium was a part of the public parks system, hence paid for by ALL tax-paying citizens and the local government demanded it so they could play at (later named) RFK. Wanting to see a black quarterback succeed only called for learning the history of American professional football. Pretty much after Doug Williams won the Super Bowl, color became mostly irrelevant except for those trafficking in differences instead of W's and L's.

Rush is what he is and he's unabashedly proud of what he says and does. But he's also intelligent enough to realize that he's polarizing, which is something owners don't want and cannot tolerate when business is based on entertaining people, not having them choose political sides and battling to the bitter, ideological end. Although Rush has the money, I don't think Augusta National will be calling anytime soon either, and no one would say that their reticence would be based on liberal leanings, would they? Same thing would go for any liberal with too-public views deemed divisive across the board. Thats just the way it is. Money talks and REAL MONEY screams. Thats why it pays to be quiet on controversy when everyone's money pays your way.

"Either way, myself and the other lawyers I work FOR laugh at scumbags like you.

#109 | Posted by JOE"

There FTFY, Paralegal Joe.

Oh yeah, by the way, I laugh at your boss lawyers too and their 80 hour weeks and billing by the hour. I make more money than them, work about 36 hours a week (including the time I spend in this lunatic asylum), and never have to charge my clients anything unless I am giving them even more money. Laugh away, douchebag paralegal.

From WisGourd...How stupid do you have to be to listen to this fucker?

#170 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-10-15 12:26 PM

RingMaster, Manypaths has a question you are finally qualified to answer.

I am qualified to answer? I thought you said I was a fucking idiot? Oh, I forgot, according to you everyone is a fucking idiot. OK, I can live with that. We all have our idiosyncrasies.

Well guess what? I've been listening to Rush for years. That's where I get all my funniest lines. He has helped hone my philosophy more then any other talk show comedian that I ever tuned in to. Glenn Beck isn't even funny. He's too much of a right wing kiss ass to be funny, but Rush is hilarious. I especially relish the Rush take on science. He still thinks global warming is caused by stray cosmic rays bouncing off pixie dust in the ether.

Good read Ooohrah and good points:

Ask myself what it would mean for Limbaugh to be allowed to own the Rams, and more importantly, what it would mean for him to not be allowed.

And the latter part scares me.

Not allowing Limbaugh to own the Rams because people disagree with his politics, or because they disagree with the hyperbolic way he expresses his politics, is frightening. Not today, of course. Today it's fine because our capitalistic free market is closing its doors on the "divisive" Limbaugh -- but tomorrow it could close its doors on me. Or on you.

"That's not Rush's point. His point is that some (not all) sportswriters most definitely kept labeling McNabb as a black quarterback... and, frankly, were clearly rooting for him to be successful. Why would they root for him to be successful?"

Other than Philly fans I don't know who you are talking about. I've never heard of writers generally rooting for McNabb. Rush didn't say exactly that anyway but if he did - he made it up.

"Perhaps because he was black and black QBs hadn't been wildly successfull to that point. They were cheering him on, almost to be able to say, "see, look how far we've come. We have a black man in a position of power.""

I had never heard anyone make an issue of McNabb's race. Randall Cunningham? Yes. But McNabb came into the league well after that conversation ended. Black guys playing QB is not a big deal anymore to most NFL fans.

"And yes, at that time McNabb was a decent QB, but a great one? The Philly defense carried that team."

He's an All-Pro but not a hall of famer. More than decent. Very good. Puts up good numbers, wins games and clearly the team is better when he's in than when he's not. He doesn't get his ass-licked by ESPN all the time like Brett Favre. So to say he's overrated really doesn't hold any water. He gets credit when it is due and they criticize him when he deserves it. I don't know anyone who could figure out what the fuck Rush was even talking about with this overrated stuff. And I'm a Giants fan.

I would be more worried if Limbaugh's bid to be part of that bidding group was shot down by the gov't, but this is just private businessmen acting in what they feel is their own best interest. Football players did not sack Limbaugh, nor did NFL mgmt, or Obama, or liberal PC groups. Dave Checketts dumped him because it was bad for his business. Limbaugh made his bed; npw he's got to lie in it. (Hopefully it has strong slats.) End of story.

Not allowing Limbaugh to own the Rams because people disagree with his politics, or because they disagree with the hyperbolic way he expresses his politics, is frightening. Not today, of course. Today it's fine because our capitalistic free market is closing its doors on the "divisive" Limbaugh -- but tomorrow it could close its doors on me. Or on you.

Good grief...so many people conflating issues not even remotely at play. Rush is BAD for the business of the NFL, case closed. It doesn't matter what his politics are, it doesn't matter what his views are. It matters that he has a national forum he uses on a daily basis to DIVIDE people against each other! HE is the anthithesis of what the NFL exists to do as a business construct.

The owners in the NFL have a symbiotic relationship with myriad governments that control or manage the stadiums they use to ply their business in. It is not good business to piss-off ANYONE who pays taxes, because all it will take is a taxpayer revolt to upset their apple cart and reduce the value of their franchises/brand across the board.

NFL owners are an extremely closed group of businesspeople who have 100% control over whom they allow into their club. Controversy harms their business, while controversy IS Rush's business. The two cannot coexist in this reality or any other one without potentially damaging the brand and image nutured by the people who started in this club with single or double digit millions invested and now find their club's worth in the hundreds of millions if not around the billion dollar mark.

The NFL is about unifying people around their product. Rush's income is based on just the opposite and would undermine the foundation the NFL shows to the world regardless of how the individual owners choose to privately practice their politics. The key word is privately, and little about Rush's views are private, are they?

Again, the same would be true if Keith Olbermann, Al Franken (Air America days), or anyone else with a public platform from which they daily expressed political views tried to join the NFL. Its not ideology, nor is it about 1st Amendment rights and tolerance. Its about Business 101. Its never good business to piss-off a large swath of your customers by publically and overtly espousing controversial views on a daily basis.

We'll have to disagree, SULLY. My memory is pretty good on that because I, too, had grown tired of McNabb's race so often being linked to his success. And at the time Rush had gotten dumped from ESPN, his radio commentary was loaded with commentary from columnists/TV folks who did, in fact, link McNabb's race.

Pointing out someone's race doesn't necessarily make that commentator a racist. Perhaps it's the noteworthiness of the event.

Rush's beef wasn't that McNabb sucked... it was at libs in the sports media who pontificate on how great it is that a black man can not only play QB but be successful. And Rush's view was that sportwriters projected their own wishes for a black man's success into their writings and commentaries... in effect, rooting for McNabb and building him up precisely BECAUSE of his race, largely due to white guilt.

So Rush called the commentators on that. Hey, in a supposedly color blind society is it relevant for commentators to keep bringing up a man's race? Well, they did... and Rush pointed that out.

TONY-
First, glad to see you back on here. You'd been away for some time. I'm on and off here of late... so maybe you've been posting here again for weeks.

I agree controversy can be bad for the entity called the NFL, sometimes referred to as the No Fun League.

That CBS writer's problem was that a myriad of really bad players (no pun intended) have been welcomed back into the fold. From Vick to Pacman, take your pick.

Did you know some teams have minority owners in the entertainment business... the Dolphins, for instance, have a singer with Black Eye Peas. Would those lyrics be considered family friendly?

Is it that Rush is so large a public figure that he can't hide? Or is it the type of controversy involved?

I guess there are always lines to be drawn. The question(s) become where to draw them, the rationale behind it, and who gets to make that decision.

I've read where Rush knew of the firestorm his name would create and asked Checketts, prior to accepting the offer to jump in, whether he'd been vetted with all the powers that be. He'd been assured that that had occured. Wrong!

I am qualified to answer? I thought you said I was a fucking idiot?
Posted by RingMaster

You certainly are if you can't figure out that post. But ask Momma to explain it to you, Forrest. (if she's done banging the Principle)

So Rush called the commentators on that. Hey, in a supposedly color blind society is it relevant for commentators to keep bringing up a man's race? Well, they did... and Rush pointed that out.

No Oohrah, you can't get there from here. Rush, according to you, was calling out "commentators" he believed wanted to see McNabb succeed "because of his race."

Who are these commentators, and why didn't Rush name them so we'd all be able to judge their words to see if Rush was right? Rush started the conversation, based it on race, and then decried anyone who pointed out the fact that Rush was the one making racial accusations, not those unnamed he pointed to.

Good grief, Philly sports fans almost always want to see their local stars succeed before they inevitably turn on them if they don't live up to expectations. Could it be people wanted McNabb to succeed because it meant that the Eagles would also succeed? Did it have to be based on race as Rush surmised?

Again, until I see quotes and stories about those Rush deemed to be racial cheerleaders, its incumbent upon HIM to live with the fact that HE brought up this issue in racial terms, not those whom he left unnamed. Name names and throw the evidence on the table, that's what Rush should have done then, and perhaps there'd have been no controversy if the evidence fit Rush's accusations.

That CBS writer's problem was that a myriad of really bad players (no pun intended) have been welcomed back into the fold. From Vick to Pacman, take your pick.

Did you know some teams have minority owners in the entertainment business... the Dolphins, for instance, have a singer with Black Eye Peas. Would those lyrics be considered family friendly?

Is it that Rush is so large a public figure that he can't hide? Or is it the type of controversy involved?

I guess there are always lines to be drawn. The question(s) become where to draw them, the rationale behind it, and who gets to make that decision.

You cannot compare ownership to employees. If the employees you mentioned were not making the NFL money or helping the teams involved play to a higher level do you really think they'd be in the league? Is the NFL donating all the money they're making on Vick's Eagle jerseys to charity? Hell no they aren't, they're just doing business as usual.

You also cannot compare artists and actors to political commentators, and more importantly artists do one record or one movie over extended periods of time. Rush is on every weekday for hours at a time. Most of the things he states would draw fines and suspensions because his views would be aligned to the League's because of their relationship if he were an owner. The NFL would not let Larry Flynt own a team nor Steve Wynn either. Neither decision would be based on politics, it would be based on the image these men would bring to the league.

Checkett's rightly figured out Rush's presence harmed his syndicate's chances of buying the Rams, so he made a business decision, not a politically motivated one, but a financially motivated one.

Its always been about money and what's good for business in this context, and the owners always will make the final decision, not the public.

He did, TONY, on his radio program. The ESPN exchange, if you recall, was a very brief one. Rush was given a flag to toss out there when he had something he wanted to chime in with. In fact, if you watched video of that segment, his on camera cohorts (I think Tom Jackson and Michael Irvin, both black, by the way) did NOT offer rebuttal or even give off negative facial vibes. It was only later when the media got hold of it that the poop hit the fan

These sports writers weren't just Philly writers or local Philly media folks.

Something I didn't add to my earlier comments: This whole firestorm over the Rush/McNabb doesn't mean Rush is a racist, nor does it mean the sportswriters are. Rush was accurately pointing out what was happening in the media.

You might find Tony Dungy's comments of interest: "You know, I guess it bothered a lot of people, it really didn't bother me. I think anybody should have the right to pursue whatever they want, they should go through the process just like anyone else and there would be 28 owners that would vote and I think the process should be able to go forth. I don't like it when people say "because of this he shouldn't be allowed to do that." We don't have any minority ownership in the NFL right now, and I think, you know, that just strikes me as the same thing, because of the way this guy looks, because of the way he sounds, because of his political bent, that he shouldn't be allowed to own a team, I think that's something that the 28 owners should decide and not the general public."

TONY and others....

In Dungy's quote on the Dan Patrick show in #238 he indicates that there is currently no minority ownership in the NFL.

Did you know that? Are you as fine with that as you are with them keeping Rush out? After all, throughout this thread I'm seeing sentiment along the lines of... owners should be able to decide who joins their private club.

"Did you know that? Are you as fine with that as you are with them keeping Rush out?"

Do you know of any potential minority owners that have been turned down?

You certainly are if you can't figure out that post. But ask Momma to explain it to you, Forrest. (if she's done banging the Principle)

Wohaa! Snappy comebacks r us. I quess that's the limit of your creative writing abilities. See ya, toilet mouth.

OOHRAH

Thanks for calling attn to Dungy's comment.

For some reason I'm recalling what happened with the Romans, when asked to kill Jesus. Pilot washed his hands of the matter. Maybe the owners didn't WANT to vote on that issue and be held responsible for the outcome?

I agree with anyone who says, it's all about the $$$$.

I heard Dungy on the DP Show myself, and I'm aware there are no black owners in the NFL. As yet, none have stepped forward wanting to own a team or those who've tried haven't had the financial clout to do so. I don't believe the existing owners are trying to exclude any qualified minorities at this point in time.

If Rush pointed to Irvin and Jackson, that hardly implies a groundswell of racially based support for McNabb throughout the media, which I thought Limbaugh implied. Both Jackson and Irvin share a commonality with McNabb and this happens to be they're all black men who played in the NFL, though neither Irvin nor Jackson played quarterback. They also know that the QB is the lightning rod for criticism far outpacing the fact it takes 22 to win, not just one.

To me the fact that Jackson and Irvin supported McNabb's success against his detractors certainly contains a racial element, but Rush is still far afield to assign it ALL to race. Its denigrating to those who've sacrificed their bodies and time to reach the pinnacle of the sport to assign a propensity to cheer the prospects of a fellow traveler soley or mainly to race.

I don't think certain commentators who passionately want Brett Favre to succeed as a Viking want him to because he's white. Most of us have multiple reasons for wishing success or the lack thereof toward selective targets. For a person with Rush's background of pointing out preceptions of bias in racial hues, his defense is as weak as his probably substantially correct assertion. But it needn't been talked about in the terms he chose to use.

I'm trying to imagine rushaddict on the practice field with a team he owned greeting black players, " Hey, ya half black man child, 'sup?"

LOL

BTW...

Just re-read O's comments. Sorry, I thought that Rush was naming Irvin and Jackson as part of those him implied as racially supporting McNabb.

Likely the reason neither commented on Rush's assertion was that they were in shock he would openly bring race into the discussion where it didn't belong.

What do you think would happen if Jackson openly speculated that the media furor over Favre was based on race instead of his play on the field?

It was really an insensitive comment because many of us MAY base our choices upon leanings other than complete objective factors. But how about all the documented cases where black athletes were denied opportunity and openly mocked by the media merely because they were black?

Rush has repeatedly tried to victimize the accusers and demonize the victims. Playing QB in Philly has never been easy without race being thought of at all. I guess Rush can find racism where others just want a nice law-abiding young man to succeed at a very difficult job while he just happens to be black at the same time.

"In Dungy's quote on the Dan Patrick show in #238 he indicates that there is currently no minority ownership in the NFL.

#239 | Posted by OohRah"

I know, goddamnit. And the way to fix that is to let a fat, white fucker who makes a living off making racially-charged, racially-insensitive, and sometimes racist remarks into the club. That's what will bring minority owners into the fold.

"What do you think would happen if Jackson openly speculated that the media furor over Favre was based on race instead of his play on the field?" - TONY

Firstly, I'd want Jackson to be able to illustrate that point with examples. Rush did than on his radio program.

OK, let's go with your hypothetical.

1. Would that make Jackson a racist?
2. Would that make the Favre media supporters racist?

See, if commentators literally label Favre as a successful white quarterback they'd be assailed by you and others on the left and largely held to ridicule by all, just as someone who wanted to run a "White Miss America" pageant. So I don't see anyone, anywhere, using that phrase.

So while you won't see people touting a great "white" player, you had seen commentators touting McNabb as a good black quarterback. And not in a perjorative way. No, it was with a sense of pride. And that was part of Rush's point in saying people were rooting for him to succeed based on race.

Maybe not the best analogy here, but how often do you see references simply to Jackie Robinson... absent what made him noteworthy? It was his race... and in spite of his race making it to the majors, which put him on the map.

It's the sportwriters and commentators who had, for several years, continued to use the "black" reference to McNabb. Why continue to do that? I think, and apparently so did Rush, that people want to be proud of how far our country has come racially... so we point to people of color in important jobs with a sense of both pride and some white guilt that they'd been screwed in the past.

But the point remains, the commentators were the ones keeping the "black" adjective alive and well... and thus had been rooting, to a degree, for a black man to succeed in a role where VERY few blacks had succeeded to that degree.

Your analogy would be sound...if there wasn't both the spoken and unspoken belief that until Doug Williams won a Super Bowl, black quarterbacks didn't have "what it takes" to be successful in the NFL. Warren Moon had to go to Canada for 5 seasons before he could play the position for which he'd spent his life preparing for. Now he sits in the Hall of Fame with statistics in the upper strata of league greats even with his truncated career. The only white QB who I can recall that went to Canada first before the NFL, and returned to be successful was Doug Flutie.

The history of the NFL cannot be discounted when assessing Rush's comments. I recall many commentators regaling in Craig James' success as a speedback with Eric Dickerson at SMU because even nearly 30 years ago there weren't many white running backs with breakaway speed. The Pony Express became famous.

Again, Rush may have been completely correct, but his comments pale when compared to the history involved. To my knowledge, there were never racially-based impediments or expectations placed upon white QB's. They sank or swam on their ability to succeed or fail. The same cannot be said for black QB's at the NFL level up until about 25 years ago.

I've never seen it surmised that Ryan Leaf failed because of his race, nor Akili Smith, Andre Ware, Tim Couch, or currently JaMarcus Russell. The bottom line is that McNabb will be judged on what he accomplishes on the field, not by the color of his skin.

And the fact that ALL OF US may like or dislike particular athletes nominally for a myriad of reasons including race doesn't mean that pointing out this fact toward the direction of those championing a black QB means that there aren't likely as many commentators cheering on the successes of other QB's because they're not black, but in today's context only the most extreme racialist would ever bother to point this out in a conversation which had ZERO to do with race on its face. Rush decided that the like of McNabb had to be racially motivated on his own and warranted a comment, and so it was, and is what it is.

For anyone interested in the transcript from that ESPN segment about McNabb.

Why would anyone in their right mind want to log into this assholes web site just to verify any BS Rush ejaculated?

Why would anyone in their right mind want to log into this assholes web site just to verify any BS Rush ejaculated?

No kidding. Maybe Oohrah is a member. lol.

"For anyone interested in the transcript from that ESPN segment about McNabb."

#249 | Posted by OohRah

"Why would anyone in their right mind want to log into this assholes web site just to verify any BS Rush ejaculated?"

#251 | Posted by RingMaster

Right on!

Would not trust anything RUSHBO said, just like I would never visit Scientology website or listen to the Larouchies out there singing Obama is a nazi.

Ditto that bizzaro preacher Rev. Moon!

Folks, it's a transcript of the actual ESPN segment... the one which aired on ESPN. It's not Rush's commentary or his views of what went on. It's the actual words used.

And you'll note a reference to the fact that ESPN chose to delete Michael Irvin's "Rush has a point" comment that Irvin made twice toward the end of that segment.

Its password protected Oohrah.

"Rush decided that the like of McNabb had to be racially motivated on his own and warranted a comment, and so it was, and is what it is." TONY

No, TONY. The decision to bring race into it was done by sports commentators, for the very reasons I'd indicated upthread. They'd been doing that for some time.

Rush challenged them on it, suggesting they'd been rooting for him to succeed because it meant a successful black quarterback... and of course we know a conservative can't discuss race in any way without being labeled a racist.

Sorry, I'll copy and paste.

And you'll note a reference to the fact that ESPN chose to delete Michael Irvin's "Rush has a point" comment that Irvin made twice toward the end of that segment.

Delete it from what? It was live tv, wasn't it?

ESPN did not want a conversation about race intruding into whether a QB was over-rated or not. Its irrelevant to what occurs on the field, isn't it? That's why ESPN pulled the plug.

And I agree its irrelevant to any substantive discussion. Commentators express their OPINIONS, not objective fact. It matters not their reasons for their views. If Rush's point was to criticize others for injecting race into their views, why did he inject race into his opinion?

All he needed to say was "Why do so many continue to label McNabb as a "black quarterback"? Aren't we past that point today? Personally, I think he's over-rated based on his record, not his race, but I believe certain commentators are basing their positive assessments more upon his race than on his play and here are concrete examples why I've concluded this: "

There would have been no controversy whatsoever.

Rush Limbaugh's Comments on ESPN Sunday NFL Countdown
September 28, 2003

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I've been listening to all of you guys, actually, and I think the sum total of what you're all saying is that Donovan McNabb is regressing, is going backwards --

TOM JACKSON: Mmm-hmm. (Nodding)

RUSH: -- and my... I'm sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.

TOM JACKSON: Mmm-hmm. (Nodding)

MICHAEL IRVIN: (Nodding)


RUSH: I think there is a lot of hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't really deserve. The defense carried this team, I think.

TOM JACKSON: But Rush -- But Rush somebody went to those championship games.

RUSH: Oh, they "went."

TOM JACKSON: Somebody made those plays that I saw running down the field, doing it with his legs, doing it with his arm. He has been a very effective quarterback for this football team over the last two or three years

RUSH: Yeah, but you take

TOM JACKSON: -- and they didn't have any more talent then than they do now.

RUSH: Oh yes they did: on defense. On defense, they did.

MICHAEL IRVIN: (Nodding)

TOM JACKSON: (Nodding) Oh, on defense they did. I'm talking on the offense side of the ball.

RUSH: Well, that's what I'm saying. I think he got a lot of credit for the defensive side of the ball winning games for this team.


STEVE YOUNG: But I'll tell you what. I'll say it even more strongly, Tom. When they're winning, nobody makes more plays --

TOM JACKSON: Right.

STEVE YOUNG: -- with his arm than Donnvan McNabb. That guy is one of the best in the league at making plays, BUT making plays does not win championships. Running the offense does. So at some point --

TOM JACKSON: Gotta run the offense.

STEVE YOUNG: -- I think that Koy Detmer looks like a better option because he'll go in there, drop back, and throw the ball correctly.

CHRIS BERMAN: Isn't it odd that last year with the broken leg I know it was Arizona but the one time he was in the pocket he looked great. Right?

STEVE YOUNG: He had to run that offense.

TOM JACKSON: So Rush, once you make that investment though once you make that investment in him, that's a done deal.

RUSH: I'm saying it's a good investment. Don't misunderstand. I just don't think he's as good as everybody says he has been.


MICHAEL IRVIN: Rush has a point.

STEVE YOUNG: Well, he (McNabb) certainly hasn't matured.

MICHAEL IRVIN: Rush has a point.

END TRANSCRIPT

TONY -
From Rush's site:
Tuesday September 30, 2003...

There is no reaction to Rush's comments for two days, until the Philadelphia media starts spinning. This effort leads to selective editing of the ESPN footage, including the removal of co-host Michael Irvin's final comment, "Rush has a point. Rush has a point."

I'll take a look at YouTube to see if there's an ESPN piece on there with the exchange... and see whether it's been cut out. I didn't see an ESPN video clip on Rush's site.

What MONSTMAN said.

TONY-
A quick search of YouTube basically only showed me a :28 clip from O'Reilly where it's only Rush and no banter with others on the set.

Rush did make another point in there that's been missed on this thread - the media has also been desirous of a black coach to come in and do well.

Rush DID have a point, but it was one completely irrelevant to McNabb's success or failure on the field. It was a socio-political comment, not one defined by performance during the games.

Again, I'm not arguing that Rush might have been correct. The place and point weren't proper on an NFL Countdown Show that wasn't discussing racial views of commentators or the media. If Rush wanted to introduce the topic, he should have gone through his producers and allowed his colleagues to know that the topic was open for discussion. He dropped a bomb in which most people would agree that SOME do favor McNabb because of his race. No revelation there. The revelation should be that the majority has never stopped doing the same thing as they control the levers of power unlike those whom look-like or favor McNabb.

WOKE -
See post #254.

Now you're seeing it, TONY. Rush was banging the media, not McNabb.

McNabb is what he is, performance-wise. That Rush felt McNabb was overrated was a reflection of the hope invested in him by those who long to see a black man succeed in such an important position.

Good night, TONY. Glad to see you back on here!

OOHRAH

Go to the media matters site listed in post #39, and while your on that page, navigate to another that documents the misinformation he has spewed.

His racist statements are presented with some context.

For him to call Obama a , "half black man child" is akin to calling our president "boy" imo.

Nothing you or rushaddict can say will make me not believe he is a racist hate jock drug addict multimillionaire who dupes his listeners with misinformation.

So now with the mere mention of "black," demagogues cry "racist." That's as fucked up as Jews shouting "Antisemitism" every time someone criticizes Israel. Give Sharpton credit for his expertise at keeping the money rolling in.

So what's so great about football, grow up all you people that think as a child, get a life get out and work for a living instead of desiring to see someone playing basketball or baseball or football, and other usless sports while pointing fingers at the true heros of news broadcasters like Rush Limbaugh who are not afraid to stand up and tell the truth of this nations faults and evils the way it truly is, unlike the twisted mongrel mainstream news media that are dish fed every word they spue out, bought and paid for by Evil Racists, and politicians that lie and manipulate control of the minds of people that are so easily led around by the nose like stupid dumb animals.

There's more to life than dam football, or dam basketball, or baseball, or racing, and Rush Limbaugh is like a rare diamond, worth more than the whole dam bunch including all the many retards that make up and post lies about him over such forumns...

Pretty sad the hyper sensitive find nother reason to be offended. But then again anyone around a microphone have been walking on egg shells since Al Campanis. Who never had a racist bone in his body and is probably the most responsible for blacks being in professional sports. Not that it wouldn't have happened eventually. But Campanis signed Jackie Robinson at a time when the Country was still blatantly racist.

Ray

What part of calling a 40 yr old black man a "man child" do you not see as racist?

Are you aware of the history and significance to black men of this slur? This was subtle racist code to his listeners of that bent, imo.

And this was about our president.

Did people namecall w based on his race?

Or was it more about his incompetence?

Something he WAS or something he did or didn't do correctly?

See a difference there at all?

"Rush DID have a point, but it was one completely irrelevant to McNabb's success or failure on the field. It was a socio-political comment, not one defined by performance during the games."

That was his entire point!!! His performance on the field sucked, yet the media still regarded him as some great player instead of pointing out he stunk. I guess Rush wasn't "articulate" enough.

Of course someone like Isiah Thomas saying Larry Bird would be just an average player if he was black speaks for itself.

Let's not forget the female announcer on the Golf Channel havong to apologize for an off the cuff comment. How about Steve Lyons, commentator for the Dodgers, suspended for joking about keeping an eye on his wallet, after they were joking about a story where "mexicans" were involved.

I understand "man child" as a reference to immaturity. A commenter could call a player of any race, "boy." It all depends on the tone of voice, whether it was said matter-of-fact or meant to be derogatory.

W was called called every name in the book. Who knows how many blacks called him "whitey" or "cracker"? Bush was fair game for any curse.

Too much noise over nothing. This topic is a total bore. I'm sure Rush can find other exiting places to invest his money.

Ray

You seem to have a limited understanding of the history of whites using "boy" to greet black MEN and the impact of such slurs.

Sure, w was called names. Can you point me to a credible source showing any media personalities denigrating him because of this race? Imagine one of them calling him a "half white man child" or even "white man child"?

Dominican Republic for instance?

Viagra or Oxy pharma corps?

I would not argue that Rush should have been prevented from owning and NFL team. Nothing could actually matter to me less than who owns NFL Teams.
However, I will admit, I detest Rush. I don't care if he is humiliated by the NFL or his drug buying housekeeper. I have no respect for him, and I never will have, no matter what he buys. Quite simply, Rush Limbaugh isn't respected by most Americans and buying an NFL team won't change that. The fact that the NFL owners don't want to be associated with him is his just desserts.

If you are black, Woke, get over it. It's not bad to be black.

It's not bad to be black.

Posted by Ray

bwhahahahahaha OH My heavens this is good. hahahahaha hehehehe hehehehe hahahaha. Good on them. Love it I really do. Yesssssssssssss

Larry

#3 | Posted by LarryMohr

Let's see...

Michael Vick? Yes
Rush Limbaugh? No

Michael Vick? Yes
Rush Limbaugh? No

Posted by Eddie at 2009-10-15 09:49 PM | Reply

Dude paid His debt to society and was reinstated to play football. Please do so ever try yet again Eddie.

Larry

Words have consequences? Who knew?

The Right

And Eddie-doesn't that show how low the white NFL owners hold Rush in esteem? Just like most Americans.

Rush actually blamed Obama for this today. I think the opiates have done irreversible damage.

One more ting.....Rush was told 'No Thanks' by his group of fellow investors. Neither NFL, nor Obama, had anything to do with this.

It sure is funny to watch though.

You can't prove Rush is a racist.

That's about the dumbest thing I have heard.

You can prove Vick tortured and killed dogs and that's A-OK with you but you THINK Rush is a racist and that must be banned.

Get the fuck out of here with that weak ass logic.

The Bart Simpson excuse.

Wow, the head of the republican party can't buy a football team. The times they are a changin'
As a Rams fan I am glad that doped up pig is out.

This is all about to who gets to say -- what Rush Limbaugh thinks racism is versus what your average black person thinks it is. Also, who accepts whose definition. Shiftless Rushfuckers or real/black people.

To maintain his following, his wallet, and his ego Rush must behave like the arbiter of all things, including racism. The world must accept what he says everything is or isn't. His suckophants lick this up like they would his piss. Suckophants, give us 4 examples of how Rush has experienced racism in the same way average black people have. Bet he's never been pulled over for driving a nice car. Bet he hasn't been denied a marriage license for trying to marry a black woman. Bet he's never been charged higher interest rates because he's white. Or been turned down for an apartment for being white.

Real people accept racism as the way average black people define it, because real people aren't afraid to accept it when the average black person says he or she's been through the above and countless other indignations.

I agree with Mercury Morris. He should have been allowed to sink millions into this deal only to find no one would play for him, thus becoming an investment the rest of us could have appreciated.

Good to see you on here again, Oohrah. We miss you when your not around. Hope Bob is doing well in Afghanistan and that you, your other son and Mrs. Oohrah are all doing fine. This past year wasn't easy for you, but looks now like there are many things to be thankful for this Thanksgiving.

And one of those things to be grateful for is that big new flat screen tv you bought last year so now you can watch all the football games coming up, huh? LOL

Well, I've got to get up at 6:00 a.m. so better try to get at least a few hours sleep rather than be walking around punchy all day tomorrow!.

GUNDER... since when do "real/black people" get to dictate anything to anyone? Sounds like Supremacy to me... and just as White Supremacy has no place in the country, neither does any other form such as the Black Panthers, one Political Party over another, etc.

Now, I do believe that Rush is an arrogant blow-hard on the radio and T.V. I also tend to wonder if he pushes more people away from conservatism than he brings in; however, I have had the pleasure of meeting him for a very brief moment just by accident. I can tell you that he is one of the most genuine people I've ever met... not to mention generous.

All that being said... the NFL has a right to decide who should and should not have Franchise in the NFL; much like McDonalds has a right to deny some drug deal'n felon the right to own a Micky D's Restaurant.

BUT

Rush should take every Lunatic Fringe Left Wing Racist to court for defaming his character through willful lies and causing the NFL and/or his Partners from reconsidering his bid. At that point, when other people's lies cause damage, he has a right to recoup those damages. So... I hope that Big Fatty takes the Racist Al Sharpton and Himey Town Jackson, along with the rest of the racist who lied... and soaks every racist dime out of their pockets.

As a side note... I would bet money that if Rush were to get damages, he would donate every last dime to some form of charity... mostly likely a military charity. What is Obama going to do with his $1.4 million from the Nobel Peace Prize?

Again, it always amazes me to see white folk claim that every race is racist, ignoring the severe effects of racism on the minority vs the majority.

These poor white majority victims of minority racism.....it's terrible to see their victimization, eh?

LMFAO

Sure, w was called names. Can you point me to a credible source showing any media personalities denigrating him because of this race? Imagine one of them calling him a "half white man child" or even "white man child"?
#275 | POSTED BY WOKE AT 2009-10-15 09:13 PM

If you are black, Woke, get over it. It's not bad to be black.
#277 | POSTED BY RAY AT 2009-10-15 09:22 PM

Couldn't do it, eh?

Nuff said.

"Michael Vick? Yes
Rush Limbaugh? No

Posted by Eddie at 2009-10-15 09:49 PM | Reply

Dude paid His debt to society and was reinstated to play football. Please do so ever try yet again Eddie.

Larry"

#280 | Posted by LarryMohr

Try again LAME-Ouh, er excuse me Eddie.
That isn't even close to a valid comparison.

Vick admitted his wrongs against society and corrected his behaviour.

This will most likely NEVER happen with RUSHBO!

"Rush should take every Lunatic Fringe Left Wing Racist to court for defaming his character through willful lies and causing the NFL and/or his Partners from reconsidering his bid."

#290 | Posted by Dont_TreadonMe

The NEOCON version of a frivilous lawsuit!

GOOD LUCK with that - let me know how that works out ha ha ha ha hah.

Again, it always amazes me to see white folk claim that every race is racist..

Why does that amaze you? Every race has racists. Welcome to the real world

Only the Left could compare a convicted felon with a Conservative talk show host.

Good luck with that.

Maybe Rangel can take Rush's place with his ill gotten gains. Why not?

Couldn't do it, eh?
Nuff said.
#292 | Posted by woke

Like I said at the beginning. I'm tired of this ultra-sensitivity.

"Again, it always amazes me to see white folk claim that every race is racist..

Why does that amaze you? Every race has racists. Welcome to the real world"

#294 | Posted by goatman

What is AMAZING about the statement is how backwards and ignorant it is for this day and age.

Racism is not just an attitude - it is an institution.

Many racial groups have been subjected to oppression. They were bought and sold as slaves. They were supposedly FREED but then forced to live in ghettos segregated and kept down economically by being denied opportunity.

WHEN EXACTLY did something like this happen to white people? Think about that before you make your AMAZING statements about how white people are suffering racism.

Think about that before you make your AMAZING statements about how white people are suffering racism.

I never said that. I simply stated that every race has racists.

Why do you lie so much, woke? Will you ever grow a set and answer that question? If you don't have the balls to do it (and clearly you don't) just sa so and I'll quit asking, liar.

oops, my bad. It was monstman telling the lies for a change. I think they are the same poster anyway

So the question is for you, monstman -- why do you lie? I never made a statement, amazing or otherwise, that you said I did.

Why the lie?

Like I said at the beginning. I'm tired of this ultra-sensitivity.

#296 | POSTED BY RAY AT 2009-10-16 08:24 AM |

That apparently would indicate that you are part of the majority AND that you do not have the gift of empathy for others or the ability to understand the effects of racism on minorities.

Did you know that by 2042, whites will no longer be in the majority in the USA?

Enjoy your day.

"WHY DOES THAT AMAZE YOU? Every race has racists. Welcome to the real world"

#294 | Posted by goatman

"What is AMAZING about the statement is how backwards and ignorant it is for this day and age.

Racism is not just an attitude - it is an institution."

#297 | Posted by Monstman

YOU ASKED WHY it amazed me.

I told you WHY you are an AMAZING asshole for all the good it will do...

WOKE is not a liar - he has some of the BEST truth on this board!

He AWOKE to the evils of REAL RACISM. Perhaps someday you might AWAKE as well.

There is little or no hope RUSHBO will AWAKEN!

The NFL is filled with old white and probably racist owners.
#118 | Posted by everlong

.......true......but they have the good sense not to let their opions get in the way of their making money......

#125 | Posted by skizziks

They aren't on the air in front of an audience of millions every day. Obviously they are far less likely to make a faux pas when they are very rarely even interviewed.

Maybe he can buy the White Sox.

I never said that. I simply stated that every race has racists.

#298 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-10-16 08:57 AM |

Yes, while posting only part of my statement and ignoring the point of my post.

That the effects of majority racism are much more severe on the minority than just having your feelings hurt a little bit by namecalling.

You white victims of minority racism are a hoot.

btw, crap in one hand and ask nonsensical, "loaded" questions of me in the other and see which gets filled up first.....then go wash your hands sonny.

Some info for ya:

Loaded question, also known as complex question, presupposition, "trick question", or plurium interrogationum (Latin, "of many questions"), is an informal fallacy or logical fallacy.[1] It is committed when someone asks a question that presupposes something that has not been proven or accepted by all the people involved. This fallacy is often used rhetorically, so that the question limits direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda.[1] An example of this is the question "Are you still beating your wife?" Whether the respondent answers yes or no, he will admit to having a wife, and having beaten her at some time in the past. Thus, these facts are presupposed by the question, and in this case an entrapment, because it narrows the respondent to a single answer, and the fallacy of many questions has been committed.[1]
The fallacy relies upon context for its effect: the fact that a question presupposes something does not in itself make the question fallacious. Only when some of these presuppositions are not necessarily agreed to by the person who is asked the question does the argument containing them become fallacious.[1]

referenced wikipedia

everlong

faux pas, eh?

A faux pas is a violation of accepted social rules (for example, standard customs or etiquette rules)

Yeah, spewing racist statements denigrating our president is violation of ettiquette, eh?

It's also an indication of being a RACIST when it's done over and over and over again. No mistaking it when you read ALL the various racist statements.....and not merely a one or two time, faux pas, but a continued pattern of racism.

Who can blame the owners for blacklisting rushaddict for his blatant racism in a sport dominated by black men.

As i said imagine rushaddict greeting the black players whose contract he owns with, 'Hi there "half black man child"

You are not nearly so smart as you seem to think your smarmy bs indicates.....not nearly....but you are pretty damned funny!

That is what liars do.

RUSH LIES!

FLUSH RUSH!!

#222 | Posted by Monstman at 2009

heres what liars do
besides live in the white house

CNN" rick sanchez

:"well he may not have said what we said he said, but he has said stuff like that.
"
brilliant, fuckhead

and your refusal to retract a blatant lie.

"and clips are available of obama lying his ass off time and time again"

You've lost all credibility to call anyone a liar if you won't admit your own lies.

#223 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-1

I didnt think I would say this to you but I guess you are either too fuckin stupid or too much in the goddamn democrat fuckin liar toilet for the piece of shit Neo marxist president to comprehend my post about posting the list of economic numbers from the last year of the carter failed presidency.
if he was so fuckin great, please explain the huge win by ronald reagan
no on 2nd thought...go fuck yourself...

he was a joke and a huge distructive force for this country regardless of any numbers and obama is proving to have the same chraracteristics.
just look at commnents from anita dunn, the woman put in charge by rhom emanual...a chicago political fuck...to destroy beck and fox.
bit its not working because of the fact that the white house,much like duped libs here are once again underestimating the power of the american system.

so rock on liberal fucks....your time is running short.

Again, the same would be true if Keith Olbermann, Al Franken (Air America days), or anyone else with a public platform from which they daily expressed political views tried to join the NFL. #232 | Posted by tonyroma at

I contend that olberman IS a part of the nfl.
much like the masters when mccord said something they didnt like, they made cbs get rid of him on those telecasts...and that is in effect even today...
so where is the outrage..and I for one dont get anywhere near that channel while that portion is on and rarely watch the game telecast unless its wildly interesting.

also TONY.....also in the book are some great stories about mcgovern himslef...a REAL american hero who saved his crew more than a couple of times.
its too bad he went 'south' politically but the heroics as presented in that book show him to have been really something.

AFK is gonna quote a poll showing support for dems waning.

But he won't show a poll showing support for repugs more than for dems, eh?

And he continues to ignore that big poll that happens every 4 years.

LOL

November 8, 2008

And it's not hard to see who AFK's hero is, he quotes him,

"go fuck yourself".

He must worship 5 deferrment chickenhawk hallichainy, who became a multimillionaire after changing the rules to allow privatization of our military, then becoming ceo of a war profiteer, then as veep directing billions in no bid contracts to that company where he still owned stock options.

I wonder what the profits per dead US vets are?

And, uh, that's SENATOR Al Franken to you.

LMFAO

Anyone else ever notice how many of the rw shills on this site disappear each day at "closing time"?

Apparently, the companies they work for are paying them to post their inane bs on this blog daily......or not.

Just sayin'

they are many here who are using thier companies time to post here...take a poll and see who has the most on that list..the left or the people who
ARE RIGHT...

and if you are 'just saying' that we are scared of the likes of you, then please keep that thought.

and now its off to the links

beer
women in short shorts on beer cart
golf
cigars
beautifull southeast texas fall weather

SHIT>..cant get much better than that...

"I didnt think I would say this to you but I guess you are either too fuckin stupid or too much in the goddamn democrat fuckin liar toilet for the piece of shit Neo marxist president to comprehend my post about posting the list of economic numbers from the last year of the carter failed presidency."

"To comprehend" your "post"?

What's not to understand?

1. You made a claim.
2. It was a lie.
3. I called you on that lie.
4. You posted links, twice, that proved you lied.
5. You've refused to retract the lie.
6. You've attacked me ever since, and pretended it was about anything and everything BUT your lie.

Ultimately, you are exactly what you accuse Obama of being: a fuckin' liar. And now, you've added a new standard: you're in the goddamn fuckin' liar toilet.

No amount of changing the subject, or moving the goalposts, or attacking me, will turn your lie into the truth.

and now its off to the links
#311 | POSTED BY AFKABL2 AT 2009-10-16 10:02 AM

Making sausage?

And here I thought you were full of baloney!

"so rock on liberal fucks....your time is running short."

#307 | Posted by afkabl2

OFF TO THE LINKS tranlates to he is going into the shed in the backyard to make more ammo...

That apparently would indicate that you are part of the majority AND that you do not have the gift of empathy for others or the ability to understand the effects of racism on minorities.
#300 | Posted by woke

That tells me you have a problem with your race, not racism. Demagogues like Jackson and Sharpton are milking black issues for all they're worth. They didn't get wealthy for nothing.

Did you know that by 2042, whites will no longer be in the majority in the USA?

I could care less. By 2142, races will be so mixed, everyone will have the same skin color.

You white victims of minority racism are a hoot.

???

I'm not a victim of anything except your lies.

I have a good job I love, get 26 weeks a year off, have a family I love and who loves me, one of my houses is paid for, I have no debt except one small mortgage, and I enjoy life.

How can you call me a victim, liar?

goat

you are a victim of your own bias, partisanship and stupidity....

not much anyone but you can do about that....

you are right....you are a victim only of yourself, yet, here you are on a thread about a well recognized racist, doing what?

you are a victim of your own bias, partisanship and stupidity....

Coming from the biggest liar I've ever seen on the DR, I take that as a compliment.

Thanks, joke.

...here you are on a thread about a well recognized racist, doing what?

laughing at you

Ray

How did Jackson or Sharpton do anything that affects your rights in this country genius?

Why can you not understand the difference in severe outcomes of white majority racism which has oppressed minorities for centuries versus minority backlash racism that has no power to affect anyone in the majority?

Is it a comprehension, empathy, or partisanship issue for you?

Does calling me a race traitor make you seem less racist yourself?

...here you are on a thread about a well recognized racist, doing what?
laughing at you

#318 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-10-16 01:20 PM

And, i am doing what on this thread? Pointing out the idiocy of claiming minority racism is equal to majority racism.....the outcomes are completely different.

And you are attacking me for that, eh? Kinda belies your bs about not thinking you are a victim of majority racism if you attack me for making that point, eh?

Why else would you be addressing me at all on this thread?

Anything at all to say about that content, or are you just always going to continue ad hominem attacks

I have a good job I love, get 26 weeks a year off, have a family I love and who loves me, one of my houses is paid for, I have no debt except one small mortgage, and I enjoy life.
#316 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-10-16 01:05 PM

That's great for you. I have been very lucky in my life also. i have worked for over 40 yrs and also served others, not just myself. (not saying you haven't)

I believe a person is not judged by the things he has in life, but the things he gives/shares with others. Not the love he receives, but the love he gives.

And I'm hoping you understand that also. Come on down off your high horse for a minute.

i believe that despite the vitriol, namecalling and ad hominem attacks coming from you and your group of rw trolls here on DR, we all have more in common than differences.

One who sees only variety instead of unity, wanders on from death to death.
The Upanishads

When two people argue, the bystander takes advantage.
Confucious

Have a nice weekend....

How did Jackson or Sharpton do anything that affects your rights in this country genius?

They don't affect me. They're ripping off blacks by keeping the racial fires burning.

Why can you not understand the difference in severe outcomes of white majority racism which has oppressed minorities for centuries versus minority backlash racism that has no power to affect anyone in the majority?

If you think racism is the only form of cruelty of man against man, you need to expand your knowledge of history.

Is it a comprehension, empathy, or partisanship issue for you?

None of the above. I think you are using race for political gain.

Does calling me a race traitor make you seem less racist yourself?

Now you are being dishonest. I neither called nor implied you are a race traitor. I can't even infer what that means.

Tread: Since it was written that their right to free speech shall not be infringed. Real people, Black people, Limbaugh, Pelosi, you, me -- all of us get to dictate. But that doesn't mean anyone has to listen.

The question at hand is who carries any real weight on the subject of racism? About what it is or is not? Rush or the average black person on the street? Who would you listen to for what?

If I want to know about cigars, or viagra, or addiction, or what conservatives are told to think, or how it feels to have A LOT of enemies, I'll let Rush dictate to me. He has first hand experience. Racism? Not a chance.

If I want to know about racism, I'll let your average black person dictate to me what it means. He or she has first hand experience.

Al Sharpton on the other hand is not your average black person. To me, he's a racist by any definition, and here's mine: If you are a painter, and you specialize in expressionism, then you are an expressionist. In this regard Al Sharpton is a racist. He makes a living from racism. As far as I know, the man's never worked an honest day in his life. I can't stand him anymore than I can stand Rush Limbaugh. They're douchebags of a different color, plain and simple.

I really wish there were off my TV and out doing something useful together like digging ditches way far out there where the ditches are needed.

I don't have a problem with Rush being a minority owner. I'd bet quite a few of the present owners have similar views to his. Lots of assholes in that group. Of course, they keeps their views private or relatively so. Unfortunetely for Rush, the NFL is very PR conscious and publicly dissing so many of the players, as Rush has effectively done, is not what they want.

Rush plays to an audience which dotes on his words. Guess he found one which doesn't - and learned how that works.

Does calling me a race traitor make you seem less racist yourself?
woke

Now you are being dishonest. I neither called nor implied you are a race traitor. I can't even infer what that means.
#322 | POSTED BY RAY AT 2009-10-16 01:44 PM

Here's my evidence of that:

That tells me you have a problem with your race, not racism.
#315 | POSTED BY RAY AT 2009-10-16 12:59 PM

The rest of your "answers were equally diversionary or disengenuous

How did Jackson or Sharpton do anything that affects your rights in this country genius? woke

They don't affect me. They're ripping off blacks by keeping the racial fires burning.ray
>>apparently, as i said, you have little understanding that majority racism affects all black folk. Comparing them to rushaddict's vile and pernicious racism or the severe effects of centuries of majority racism in the usa is laughable.

Why can you not understand the difference in severe outcomes of white majority racism which has oppressed minorities for centuries versus minority backlash racism that has no power to affect anyone in the majority? woke

If you think racism is the only form of cruelty of man against man, you need to expand your knowledge of history. ray

>>>do you understand that you didn't respond to my question, nor indicated your understand the difference in outcomes of majority vs minority racism, but instead tried to change the subject entirely.....cruelty exists so fk it, eh? LOL

Is it a comprehension, empathy, or partisanship issue for you?woke

None of the above. I think you are using race for political gain.=ray

gee, ray, what political gain do i get from pointing out that because you are white, have never suffered any racism as a minority, you have no understanding or empathy for those who have....

Have a nice evening

gee, ray, what political gain do i get from pointing out that because you are white, have never suffered any racism as a minority, you have no understanding or empathy for those who have....

Empathy can't help you. If we were to meet personally, I would treat you as an individual like I do everybody else. I'm tired of the whining from blacks and Jews about discrimination. This has been going on all my life. After a while, I learned to tune it out. Take a tip from Asians. Learn, work hard, save, and make a better life for yourself and your family. And stay out of politics. Respect has to be earned.

"stay out of politics. Respect has to be earned."

Do you have any idea how patronizing that sounds?

Dan

Woke wants empathy for being black. I'm fed up with that bullshit.

I'm not black ray.

But I do have the ability to understand racism and it's effect on minorities.

Maybe you aren't a racist. ??

But you certainly help those who are by denying that it has and still exists.

Who brought up Jews?

Do you also deny the holocaust?