Aggravated Battery?

Jeez... why not attempted murder?

Mikey DOESN'T like it!

I gotta admit feeling a momentary pang of disappointment that the accompanying video didn't depict the (vile! awful! inhumane! reprehensible!) act in question...

Sucks. At my hospital I see burned kids around all the time, many of them less than 3 years old. At least young kids don't usually remember why they have scars all over their body; this kid is gonna be in hell for a while.

I lit one of my friends on fire with a home made flamethrower once. Just got his leg hair though. 2-liter pop bottle with gasoline in it, on it's side, and a small flame in front of it. I couldn't wait for my turn to jump.

Also blew another friend up by igniting a "lake" of gasoline we had made together. He was still working on it when I lit him up. haha! I got caught in it, but just my sneakers were on fire.

How we made it through those days without any serious burns is beyond me.

@HAGBARD: RTFA (Read the freaking article):

Mendez also faces a charge of attempted second-degree murder.

Duh.

I love the woman with the "not MY son" attitude. It's always the ones that raise the sociopath that insist their crotchfruit could never do anything remotely wrong.

Aggravated Battery?

Jeez... why not attempted murder?

#1 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2009-10-13 09:16 PM

Doesn't make sense that only the kid with the lighter should be facing charges of attempted murder.

They will most likely not contribute to society.
I myself have not yet contributed much to society, but I have not set anyone, besides myself, on fire.

Eye for an eye.

IMHO, each of these little fucks should be also doused with rubbing alcohol, torched, and given the opportunity to run the 150 yards to a pool to douse themselves.

That can be the only real justice here.

The perps need to have their entire lives PERMANENTLY ruined.

Better yet, just hang em. I'll hold the rope.

No joke.

Yes, I'm aware of their ages. By their own free will, they are no longer human.

"RTFA"

I did. Yesterday.

The article was updated today, douche.

Yesterday the article only spoke of aggravated battery.

I apologize for the douche.

You did say "freakin" and not ....

"Eye for an eye.

IMHO, each of these little fucks should be also doused with rubbing alcohol, torched, and given the opportunity to run the 150 yards to a pool to douse themselves.

That can be the only real justice here."

They should be hit across the knees with a baseball bat first.

"Doesn't make sense that only the kid with the lighter should be facing charges of attempted murder."

I don't know, I sort of agree with that. The rest of them might have been too big of pussies to actually commit that final act, and had he been a pussy too, nobody would really deserve an attempted murder charge.

had the others not helped, the kid might have been able to defend himself against the one who was willing to follow all the way through... The other 4 are just as guilty.

I don't know, I sort of agree with that. The rest of them might have been too big of pussies to actually commit that final act, and had he been a pussy too, nobody would really deserve an attempted murder charge.
#13 | Posted by JOE

The dousing and the lighting are separate criminal acts? Aren't they, at minimum, accessories?

I would say at least the kid dousing should be also charged with an attempted murder.

The kid with the lighter wouldn't have done much damage without the kid with the rubbing alcohol.

That's true, in my state if you intentionally provide assistance to others in their commission of a crime, you can be held responsible for that crime. Not sure what the rules are in FL though.

I think these boys are just misunderstood. If they had a proper upbringing, in a more compassionate country, they wouldn't have felt the need to engage in these acts.

If they already had bicycles, they wouldn't have had the need to steal one in the first place.

If Bush were truly a compassionate conservative, this wouldn't have happened.

Al Sharpton.

If a gun is used in the commission of a crime ALL are charged with using the gun--here in CA anyway.

Dousing a person with rubbing alcohol and setting them on fire is a savage act of inhumanity.

Therefore, punishing the perpetrators of this crime by dousing them with rubbing alcohol and setting them on fire would be... a savage act of inhumanity.

Where did my logic fail me, right-wingers?

Therefore, punishing the perpetrators of this crime by dousing them with rubbing alcohol and setting them on fire would be... a savage act of inhumanity.

Incarceration is a savage act of humanity.

Where did my logic fail me, right-wingers?

#20 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2009-10-14 07:00 PM | REPLY | FLAG

One is a crime, the other within a possible realm of punishment which would serve society in its deterrent effect, and providing retribution for the criminal act.

The logic is plain enough. Obviously, such a punishment would not be approved in America. So, there's really no useful point in discussing it. As Goat points out, albeit unwittingly, your 'logic' could lead to a conclusion that no punishment at all would be appropriate.

Incarceration is a savage act of humanity.

My point exactly.

#23. So, how would you punish these upstanding lads?

So, how would you punish these upstanding lads?

Incarceration.

#25. got ya. sorry for being thick.

Incarceration is a savage act of humanity.

#21 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-14 07:05 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Negatory. It was the very very very besty thing to have ever happened to Me. The Very Very Very best. So I disagree incarceration is a savage act of Humanity. Being locked up in GITMO however IS a savage act of humanity when You are deprived of charges and You are deprived of a day in court. THAT is a savage act against Humanity.

Larry

#27. In protecting our country from foreign terrorists, there might be a little collateral damage. To the extent there are innocents at GITMO, that's how I view them. For those that are not innocent, fuck 'em. They aren't citizens.

"Incarceration is a savage act of humanity."

Negatory.

If I was ever sentence to life for a crime, I would request the death penalty and that it be carried out immediately. There is no way I could handle being locked up like a dog the rest of my life

If I was ever sentence to life for a crime, I would request the death penalty and that it be carried out immediately. There is no way I could handle being locked up like a dog the rest of my life

Posted by goatman at 2009-10-14 07:41 PM | Reply

Talks cheap buddy takes money to buy whiskey. I very much doubt You would beg for the death penalty if given a sentence of life. Especially if You were innocent. You would spend the rest of Your life fighting for Your innocence. Mark My Words.

Larry

#27. In protecting our country from foreign terrorists, there might be a little collateral damage. To the extent there are innocents at GITMO, that's how I view them. For those that are not innocent, fuck 'em. They aren't citizens.

#28 | Posted by somoco at 2009-10-14 07:39 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Then I guess You don't believe in the US Criminal Justice system. That means You do not believe in American Values.

Larry

Then I guess You don't believe in the US Criminal Justice system. That means You do not believe in American Values.
Larry

#31 | POSTED BY LARRYMOHR AT 2009-10-14 07:48 PM | REPLY | FLAG

I strongly believe in the American Justice System. I don't believe that these people are within that system. they are enemies in a war. the fact you don't see that is your problem.

I very much doubt You would beg for the death penalty if given a sentence of life.

Doubt all you want, Larry. I know my heart better than you. There is no way I would be able to tolerate a sentence of life in prison. If I got the death sentence, I would shun all appeals.

I strongly believe in the American Justice System. I don't believe that these people are within that system. they are enemies in a war. the fact you don't see that is your problem.

Posted by somoco at 2009-10-14 07:50 PM | Reply

Since acts of terrorism are criminal acts they are entitled to challenge their detainment. Since they are alledged criinals they are due justice. That is a charge within 72 hours of detainment and then subsequently a trial and then guilt or aquittal. This is how we are SUPPOSED to behave in the United States. To do otherwise is barbaric and not within our American Values.

Larry

I strongly believe in the American Justice System. I don't believe that these people are within that system. they are enemies in a war. the fact you don't see that is your problem.

Posted by somoco at 2009-10-14 07:50 PM | Reply

Since acts of terrorism are criminal acts they are entitled to challenge their detainment. Since they are alledged criinals they are due justice. That is a charge within 72 hours of detainment and then subsequently a trial and then guilt or aquittal. This is how we are SUPPOSED to behave in the United States. To do otherwise is barbaric and not within our American Values.

Larry

Somoco, The AUMF is not a Declaration of War. Just FYI.

I heard they were chanting he "Barack Obama" song while they set the kid with the American flag shirt on fire

Wait... was he wearing this shirt?

"I lit one of my friends on fire with a home made flamethrower once. Just got his leg hair though. 2-liter pop bottle with gasoline in it, on it's side, and a small flame in front of it. I couldn't wait for my turn to jump.
Also blew another friend up by igniting a "lake" of gasoline we had made together. He was still working on it when I lit him up. haha! I got caught in it, but just my sneakers were on fire.
How we made it through those days without any serious burns is beyond me."

#4 | POSTED BY LIVE_OR_DIE

-Sounds like a budding serial killer to me.

In the past 1 week, there have been at least 4 heinous crimes involving a group of teens.

Just this week, 4 kids in NH broke into a house and used a machete to kill a woman and her 11 year old daughter. The house was picked randomly.

And this:

Vegas teen got his friend to kill the teen's parents, police say.The Las Vegas Sun has a pretty full report on the case of Timothy Chester, 18, of Las Vegas, who allegedly got his friend, Victor Veliz, to kill Chester's parents because they'd had a fight. Police say that Chester had wanted to kill his entire family, including a sister and her family, who lived with them.

Then the teens in this 'fire' article. There's one more I'm forgetting.

The one you are forgetting is the goth rap kid who killed his girlfriend and her parents. Bludgeoned them to death.

Although in deference to him, I believe he is over 18 and therefore a fucked up adult.

Just read the article.

Some fucked up kids.

Alex and his droogs have come home to roost.

I approve of Incarceration on one simple condition:

NOT EVEN ONE CENT OF TAX PAYER MONEY IS SPENT TO SUPPORT THE CRIMINALS.

Assuming no other source of income is found, this would mean that the prisoners would starve to death.

To avoid starving them, I approve of extracting enought labor from them (willing or not) to pay for the guards, and all prison upkeep, and ALL prisoner "benefits" (such as medical care). If they can't earn enough money to PAY to see a doctor, NO DOCTOR.

A few folks here have mentioned youthful stupidity involving fire.

There is a core difference:

In cases of youthful (usually male) stupidity, there is no intent to kill or maim (although minor injury might be intended....). Heck, I STILL have an extremely faded burn scar on my butt from over 30 years ago. Sadly, some kids die. Its the nature of young men, even when they don't intend more than something 'funny' with their friends. (It is right and correct for adults to try and minimze the damage young men do, but there is a need to avoid "smothering" them....)

In the cases of EVIL, there is a deliberate effort to kill and/or maim.