Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, October 13, 2009

The police have you surrounded. One is outside your window another is positioned as back-up.

they have no warrant for you and no suspicion that you are engaged in any criminal activity, but they intend that you will not leave, thus the approach and the back-up.

you do not know of their presence, much less their intent.

are you free to leave (walk or run) and ignore them?

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When you stop and think about it, it's much deeper than the fake drug war (initialized in the 80's). The covert police programs designed to controvert the person's civil liberties include "Knock and Talk", "Sneak and Peak", "CPS on Speed Dial", laws to take blood or DNA at traffic stops, public advertisement to reward to report on your neighbors "if you see guns", checkpoints and police patrols by border patrol and other military units, etc.

Sadly it's a gradual decline, there is no way we will have more plentiful liberties in 20 years than we have now, and there is no way we have more liberties now than we did in 1989 and so on.

It's government creep, and there's not much we can do about it but attempt to slow it down through elected officials.

The water is getting a little warm, but, hey it is not boiling yet. If you have nothing to hide then what is the fuss right?

Right?

Wait until Skynet comes online!

well you gotta hand it to the kid's attorney.

It was a creative way to make his defense.

"I had no idea i was under arrest!"

all i can see for the future is little yellow circles and a loud speaker stating
"THIS IS A POLICE CONTROL PLACE YOUR HANDS INSIDE THE YELLOW CIRCLES THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION"

Ala the "5th Element"

Because,

Thus, under applicable case law, G.M. was not seized for Fourth Amendment purposes until he became aware of and submitted to the assertion or display of police authority. The facts of this case support the conclusion that G.M. did not observe the activated lights when the officers arrived, and he became aware of the police presence only when Officer Smith actually appeared at the window of the Lexus. Thus, like the defendant in Houston, G.M. was seized only as Officer Smith identified himself, ordered G.M. to spit out the marijuana, and G.M. complied. Officer Smith had already witnessed G.M. in possession of marijuana at the time he issued the order, and probable cause existed for an arrest. Therefore, we conclude that the seizure of G.M. did not violate the restrictions of the Fourth Amendment, and the trial court correctly denied G.M.‟s motion to suppress.

so your little story at the top of the article Ichiro is kinda bogus if you had actually gotten all the way through the decision you would have realized that the kid DID see the cops, DID know he was pinched.

G.M. was seized only as Officer Smith identified himself, ordered G.M. to spit out the marijuana, and G.M. complied


#2 | POSTED BY ANDYUHENET AT 2009-10-13 10:17 PM | REPLY | FLAG

andy, please enlighten me.

What is it exactly that you can not do that you could in 1989?

i would genuinely like to know.
Seeing as i lived through all of that.
Which of my civil liberties are missing?

Be specific.

Which of my civil liberties are missing?

You cannot check out a book from the library without big brother knowing what you are reading. Think about that for a second and you will realize what right you lost. Who decides what is dangerous information for YOU to know?
Here is a quick list I slapped together:

Habeus corpus
freedom to carry cash over 10,000
posse comitatus
Freedom of Speech
Freedom of Association
Rights to information about your Government
secret searches and wiretaps in your home or office
without showing "probable cause."
Equal protection
The U.S. Government may now jail its residents and citizens indefinitely without charge & without a public trial.
The right to be free from torture by your government
FREEDOM FROM CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENTS
Have you even looked at the Patriot Act or the Military Commissions Act?

The water is getting warm little froggy.

That's a good start, Donner.

Don't forget Freedom of Assembly and the Militarization of police.

Let's not forget new corporate militias such as blackwater, not subject traditional military treaties and codes of conduct. Ones that could as easily be deployed here as offshore.

Let's not forget new corporate militias such as blackwater

Which were used in Katrina to confiscate guns from potential looters as well as law abiding citizens that needed to protect themselves and their property.

posse comitatus

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