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Monday, October 12, 2009

An article published online Thursday in the journal Science reports that 67 percent of patients with chronic fatigue syndrome were infected with the infectious virus XMRV, compared to 3.7 percent of healthy people. The discovery may lead to a medical cause for the mystery ailment, which afflicts 17 million people worldwide.

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even though a few people i've known over the years have suffered from this, i joke about the cure:
get up and do something!
objects in motion stay in motion, but objects staring at glowing rectangles for 16 hours a day don't do shit!

but I like my glowing rectangle. it is the only thing that understands me...

"Chronic fatigue" may be the reason that whole democrat inner city neighborhoods can't ever go to work.

I knew a guy that had an official diagnosis of CFS from his doctor way before the internet came about. It would make sense for it to be caused by a virus, those not-really-alive little specks.

Coming soon - mass vaccination for chronic fatigue syndrome.

Coming soon - mass vaccination for chronic fatigue syndrome.

Good. I'm beat. Been working and moving stuff all day.

I could use a little shot of something to give me some extra zip right about now.

Cali what state did you decide on?

Well they claim it is a virus.

So much for the cause claimed by auto accident attorneys that it was caused by the car accident.

There's another name, more commonly known, when fatigue hits a person so hard, that they can't do much of anything. I think they just relabeled it with this CFS. Anybody remember?

I had mono twice.

"Chronic fatigue" may be the reason that whole democrat inner city neighborhoods can't ever go to work.

Ignore FWThom and his chronic deception.

My sweet wife suffers from CFS and has for more than 20 years. She is typa A as one can be. She has been robbed of her youth and her career. The disease is debilitating at so many levels it is impossible to describe.

Part of the pain is suffering wisecracks like those above. Yes, it is easy to make bon mots with its name, but when you jump on the cheap laugh line, try to remember that good, smart, professional, highly motivated people have been stripped of the physical strength required to lead a normal life.

We know that you probably dont mean it as a personal insult to the victims of this syndrome, but let me be clear, every time a CFS sufferer hears and reads cruel attempts at homor and dismissive one liners, it wounds them more deeply than you will ever immagine.

@ oldwhiskeysour: My co-worker has recently been diagnosed with ALS.

He's an experimental physicist; Death doesn't bother him; It's not being able to pick up a wrench that frustrates the hell out of him.

The guy I knew with CFS, it messed him up so bad he could not even smoke weed any more, the mellowing effect, he could not handle it 'cuz he was already so wiped out.

Sorry, it's not funny, but they should isolate this virus and give it to the kids with severe ADD. Hey, maybe they could then collect some antiviral antibodies from those kids.

He's an experimental physicist; Death doesn't bother him; It's not being able to pick up a wrench that frustrates the hell out of him.

Isn't that what grad students are for? :)

My wife has suffered with CFIDS( Chronic Fatigue Immune Deficiency Syndrome) for 15 or more years.

This is not a joke.

I do remember one shrink she was required to visit.

His comment made her day. "You are not sick because you are depressed. You are depressed because you are sick."

Her condition is vastly improved over what it was 10 years ago. She has learned her limits.

She can function normally for 2 or 3 days at a time but if she overdoes it she is confined to the couch or the bed for 3 or 4 days after that.

She is extremely intelligent and talented but can't work. No one will employ an individual who may not show up for 2 or 3 days at a time. Self employment doesn't work due to the deadlines which one always has to meet.

One thing I've wondered is are these diseases new, or are we just diagnosing them more accurately nowadays? Autism for example, it's through the roof, but it was practically unheard of even half a century ago.

Fibromyalgia is another one. It's a very American diagnosis. But is that because we are overdiagnosing, or is it a bigger problem in America, or are other countries just not diagnosing it? Fibromyalgia isn't even in Firefox's spell checker, imagine that.

One thing I've wondered is are these diseases new, or are we just diagnosing them more accurately nowadays? Autism for example, it's through the roof, but it was practically unheard of even half a century ago.

That is a large part of it. Behavioral disorders are detected more often due to increased surveillance and awareness and new viruses and such are being detected due to increased understanding of virology as a whole and increasingly sophisticated detection methods.

Maybe one of our two resident Big Pharma shills can explain how mononucleosis differs from CFS?

Maybe one of our two resident Big Pharma shills can explain how mononucleosis differs from CFS?

#19 | Posted by Ray at 2009-10-13 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag: Shill for Big Snake Oil.

Maybe one of our two resident Big Pharma shills can explain how mononucleosis differs from CFS?

Considering I'm not a clinician, I don't have that answer on hand.

Even if I were to have the answer, I'm sure it wouldn't be simple enough to fit into Ray's simple little world.

And chalk three for being called a shill for big pharm. If only you knew how ridiculous that was LOL

Here, let me help, Ray.

You completely recover from Mono in a couple of months.

CFS lasts a lifetime in many cases. 20 years and counting in My wife's case.

explain how mononucleosis differs from CFS?

CFS doesn't go away nor does it have a link to Epstein Barr virus, the virus that causes actual mononucleosis. There are symptoms that distinguish EBV mononucleosis from CFS or mononucleosis-like syndromes, and a variety of tests are available for EBV. CFS may be a complication of XMRV infection (the virus from the article), but the situation could be more complicated. Other herpesviruses have been found in CFS patients, and there are likely genetic factors involved.

What's your beef, Ray?

CFS? Just what Americans need:
Another boutique illness.

Let's add another 12 - 14 million to the dole!

What is it about Righties that they seem to have so little regard for their fellow man?

Hate and mockery of the sick is not a family value, but it oozes from the supporters of the party of family values, eh Dean?

Yeah, right along with Christian brotherhood.

The virus connection as a causal factor is still speculative

Study finds cancer-linked virus in chronic fatigue patients but can't prove it's the cause

WASHINGTON - A virus recently linked to prostate cancer is a new suspect in chronic fatigue syndrome. U.S.scientists tested blood from 101 patients and found two-thirds carried it.

That does not mean the virus causes chronic fatigue, stressed the research published Thursday in the journal Science.

The team of scientists from the National Cancer Institute and Nevada's Whittemore Peterson Institute said it was possible the virus, named XMRV, was just "a passenger virus" that catches a ride in patients whose immune systems are weakened by chronic fatigue.

Moreover, the researchers found nearly 4 per cent of healthy people carried the virus, too. That raises bigger questions about just what role this recently discovered virus - a relative of viruses that cause cancer in mice - may be playing in overall health.

"This suggests that several million Americans may be infected with a retrovirus of as-yet-unknown pathogenic potential," the researchers concluded.

A retrovirus is a kind of virus that permanently embeds in the body.

Various viruses have been linked to chronic fatigue over the years, only to fall by the wayside as potential culprits in the mysterious illness thought to afflict millions. It is characterized by at least six months of severe fatigue, impaired memory and other symptoms, but there's no test for it - doctors rule out other possible causes - and no specific treatment.

The XMRV virus is related to mouse leukemia viruses. No one knows how it arose or how people become infected. But another research team recently found the virus lurking in about a quarter of 200 prostate tumors - and in about 6 per cent of noncancerous prostate samples they used for comparison.

"There is still much that we do not understand," including whether people with either disease just are more prone to infection, cautioned Tufts University microbiologist John Coffin in an accompanying editorial. Still, "further study may reveal XMRV as a cause of more than one well-known 'old' disease."

www.lef.org

Study finds cancer-linked virus in chronic fatigue patients but can't prove it's the cause

No kidding. It's currently a strong correlation.

If it is the cause, expect a flurry of papers in the next few years shoring up the causation of CFS by the virus.

I posted that because the headline is more objective than the one Zombie posted. The word "may" is often used when the writer is trying to lead the reader into a conclusion. I'm not accusing Zombie of anything.

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