Ok. Jebby. You did a fine job of running Florida into the ground.

What a hoot. Dubya never took responsibility for anything, even to the point of whining that the meltdown had to occur on his watch, as if he had nothing to do with it. And Jeb is obviously another moron who believes if you drive a car off a cliff, you're only responsible until you can hand off the steering wheel.

LEAVE GEORGIE ALONE!!!

I wonder if secretly Jeb doesn't blame George for making his presidential aspirations seem ridiculous.

I might blame W for the economy, but I blame Jeb, among others, for W.

#4

I was going to post that, Danni!!

And if Jeb does...would anyone blame him?

If you're a Bush these days you may as well be named Oswald.

Shut up, Jeb.

We don't need to hear anything more from any of the Bushes.

We're still trying to recover from the mess your oldest brother left for our country. Your Dad was a good guy but what a mess his sons turned out to be.

Go away, go away, go away.

This is fucked up. I broke the Law in 1990 Not one of My Family members came to My defense. They knew I was guilty and awaited for the punishment to be meted out. This asshole has the utter gall to condemn anyone and everyone that holds Dubya accountable for His actions. My word can we say Arrogance times a Million??

Larry

#4 | POSTED BY DANNI
"I wonder if secretly Jeb doesn't blame George for making his presidential aspirations seem ridiculous."

OH, I'm sure he does. But it's his brother, he's going to defend him, that's what brothers do. I hardly fault Jeb for doing this. I'm sure their father feels the same way.

I don't know much about Jeb's governorship of Florida, or George's governorship of Texas, for that matter, and I'm sure I'd get completely different analyses from either side.

But this does remind me of the end of "W", where the elder Bush blames George for ruining Jeb's chances, and I don't doubt there's a bit of truth to that.

Too bad Billy Carter is dead - he and Jeb could have hung out together.

I wonder if secretly Jeb doesn't blame George for making his presidential aspirations seem ridiculous.

Jeb don't go away mad just go away.

all the predictable loons, longing and aching for the good old days when they could just mindlessly post "Bush's Fault"

Matthew 8:12(b) -- there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Jeb was responsible for the electoral fraud in Florida that led to W.'s 2000 election.

In a funny way he's right. If it wasn't for Jeb Bush and his one time running mate Tom Feeney, there never would have been a Shrub Presidency. In a sworn affidavit by Florida software programmer Clint Curtis alleging Feeney commissioned YEI to create vote rigging software for Republican use in Southern Florida.

So it really was all Jeb's & Tom's fault. Raymond Lemme was investigating this case for the State of Florida when he was found dead in an alleged suicide. They should both be in jail.

#15

*yawn*

Get over it

"Get over it"

translation = pretend it never happened.

translation = pretend it never happened.

No, Danni:

Get over it = Get over it

Get over it = Get over it

so quit saying messiah

Sorry, Bush and Cheney left this country in such horrible shape we'll be getting over it for a LONG, LONG time.

Goatman, you're the same person who 'fears' Obama and 'can't stand the guy'.

Get over it.

Like most Fox-Republicans the Bush's memory seems to be going the way of the DODO Bird. Let me see If I can remind these Assholes of something the just hate FACTS:

1...President Bush blamed the CIA for faulty information on the fact that Iraq was trying to get Nuclear Materials from Africa.

2...President Bush : "Nobody organized this Country or the International Community to fight the terrorist threat that was upon us until 9/11. We were not left a Comprehensive strategy to fight Al-Qaeda

3...President Bush: "When I took Office our Economy was beginning a recession."

4...President Bush: "Our Economy was hit by Terrorist. Than our Economy was hit by corporate Scandals."

5...President Bush: "I think than when the history of this period is written, people will realize a lot of the decisions that were made on Wall Street took place over a decade or so before I arrived".....

FACTS, that will be the end of the Fox-Republicans, because these Assholes cannot deal with FACTS. So thanks Jeb we all know how well your Brother handles his responsibilities as President. An we all know how you BUSH"S accept Responsibility, FUCK ALL OF YOU BUSH'S INCOMPETENT BASTARD, An yes Jeb your Mom is a BITCH!!!!!

Jeb is just jealouse. GW is now more famous then Jeb will ever be for a simple cliche and not anything he accomplished. "It's Bush's fault." On the tip of every childs tongue.

"Get over it = Get over it"

In other words you don't even care about the truth.

Warren Commission probably satisfied your curiosity too.

Sorry, some of us aren't sheep. Baaaaaaah!

Goatman, you're the same person who 'fears' Obama and 'can't stand the guy'.

The big difference is, of course that Bush is the past. We can't do anything about it. Obama is now and is currently in a policy making position.

Surely you knew this?

Get over it.

I will when he is out of office and can no longer influence the course of this country

In other words you don't even care about the truth.

You have the oddest way of twisting people's words, Danni. How you can read "you don't even care about the truth" from "get over it", I'll never know.

Sorry, some of us aren't sheep. Baaaaaaah!

That is hilarious coming from someone who just twisted my words like a pretzel so they followed her party's marching orders.

"Bush" is now a verb meaning 'to screw up as badly as possible'.

What's amazing is how the right wing disparage Obama yet were gung ho for Bush even though he'd failed at every company he started and lost millions for his investors before ever reaching the White House. His one 'success' was as partner of a baseball team the investors themselves stated they invested in for access to his daddy, who was President at the time.

It is rather telling the leadership of the party still continues to look backwards. Ignoring the fact they have had the Majority for almost three years. Bush was a lame duck Pres and the dems still blame him when they had all the controls to stop or right any wrongs? Here we are in Oct 2009, what have the dems done since gaining the majority? Be nice to hear any reporter ask the likes of Hoyer and Pelosi a follow up question when they invoke the Bush excuse. Like what have you guys done?

Maybe the dems are holding the blame Bush card on HC Reform for a last minute push to get it passed. Or if it doesn't pass, it is because they can't use the blame Bush card. Either way Bush is still the dems excuse for their own leadership failures.

Bush is old hat.He fucked up big time.but he's gone now and we need to do what we need to do.In the days of the Pharoahs his name would have already been erased from history

Wake up. Bush is history. If you want to gripe about something gripe about the Disaster called Obama thats in the White House now.

so quit saying messiah

Why? Bush was a chimp for 8 years, but I can't say chimp because that is racist. Besides, messiah is several rungs above a primate on the food chain, so what's the problem?

Kids singing his praises in school, the poor on the street adolating him, now the Nobel for . . . what? Messiah seems appropriate to me.

A guy who works on an oil rig is going to be my moral compass as to "getting over it" with the stolen election. Riiiight. Laughable.
Sooner or later, there will finally be a real investigation. Sooner or later, the Bush name will be, finally, synonymous with treason as it should have been when Prescott was still kissing Hitler's ass.

"What's amazing is how the right wing disparage Obama yet were gung ho for Bush even though he'd failed at every company he started and lost millions for his investors before ever reaching the White House. His one 'success' was as partner of a baseball team the investors themselves stated they invested in for access to his daddy, who was President at the time."

What is amazing is he beat idiots like Al Gore and John Kerry. The best the dems could offer. You should be more upset about your choice of candidates than who beat them. Much like the repubs choosing McCain Palin.

Kids singing his praises in school, the poor on the street adolating him, now the Nobel for . . . what? Messiah seems appropriate to me.

1 pure bullshit
2 get over it
3 you are not an intellectual
4 you are not an independant

Goatman

- Your 'fear' is entirely hypothetical.
- You 'can't stand the guy', why?

All of our current problems can be directly traced to Bush's Presidency. You've stated more than a couple times you don't like Bush either. 'Getting over' what Bush has done to this nation will take as long as it takes to recover from his disastrous Presidency.

"What is amazing is he beat idiots like Al Gore and John Kerry."

What is amazing is that you are still stupid enough to believe that. But then, stupidity is a trait you are known on DR to exemplify.

"A guy who works on an oil rig is going to be my moral compass as to "getting over it" with the stolen election. Riiiight. Laughable."

What is laughable is anyone who hasn't been able to get over it after almost nine years.

BTW... Do you really think you are in any position to speak about a "moral compass"? Or put anyones job down? If I remember right you have admitted to being divorced, had a failed printing business, didn't save for your daughter's college education...

"All of our current problems can be directly traced to Bush's Presidency. You've stated more than a couple times you don't like Bush either. 'Getting over' what Bush has done to this nation will take as long as it takes to recover from his disastrous Presidency."

Haven't the last three years shown that not getting over it is worse? Is there some point where you clowns will tell your party they can't run the country looking backwards?

Crispee

As long as we're smack dab in the middle of the storm caused by Bush don't expect us to forget so quickly.

"What is amazing is he beat idiots like Al Gore and John Kerry."

Kerry was a giveaway candidate. Bush v Gore is an entirely different story.

"What is amazing is that you are still stupid enough to believe that. But then, stupidity is a trait you are known on DR to exemplify."

More of danni reading history books written by the Grimms Brothers.

As for the stupid... I learned from masters like you danni.

"BTW... Do you really think you are in any position to speak about a "moral compass"? Or put anyones job down? If I remember right you have admitted to being divorced, had a failed printing business, didn't save for your daughter's college education..."

My, my, my, you sure seem to memorize my history Crispee you sad little clown. You really are a sad little man. I pity your wife, if you have one. I don't pity you, I laugh at you.

Crispee

As long as we're smack dab in the middle of the storm caused by Bush don't expect us to forget so quickly.

#39 | Posted by Timex at 2009-10-10 09:14 PM

danni is going on nine years. You sure you want to be wharped like her because you can't forget?

"The big difference is, of course that Bush is the past. We can't do anything about it."

Goatman

"Never Forget!!"

"Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it"

"As for the stupid... I learned from masters like you danni."

CRispee, I'd have to say you are pretty close to embarrassing yourself to the point that you won't feel capable of returning to DR (without changing your name) so I'd advise you to quit the personal attacks. It's just sad when people like you reveal your angry reality by remembering details about other posters lives just to try an diminish them.
I'm fine, your stupid attacks don't bother me in the least but, please, have some respect for yourself.

My, my, my, you sure seem to memorize my history Crispee you sad little clown. You really are a sad little man. I pity your wife, if you have one. I don't pity you, I laugh at you.

#42 | Posted by danni at 2009-10-10 09:16 PM |

I don't memorize anything. I remember the laughs when idiots like you expose their ignorance and hypocrisy. Which is quite often I might add. But when you start attacking others here like you are some queen, a little humbling goes a long way.

Goatman

#25 | Posted by goatman

You never addressed my question:

Why do you 'fear' Obama and why do you say 'I can't stand the guy'. Be specific please.

be wharped like her because you

retard alert

If I remember right you have admitted to being divorced, had a failed printing business, didn't save for your daughter's college education...

Tell us how wonderful you are crispee creme

Goatman

Why do you 'fear' Obama and why do you say 'I can't stand the guy'. Be specific please.

Others have been implying the same hypothetical "Obama's a disaster" since 2 seconds after he took the oath of office. Of course, like you, they've never been specific either. Is it melanin? I'm curious what drives people to such hatred when Obama hasn't done anything but try to extricate us from Bush's mountainous pile of shit.

#45...

You still don't get it do you danni? You are in no position to attack anyone about anything. That self made high horse you ride is nothing more than a Shetland pony.

Ironic you start to play the Hilary card and cry, on a thread about wearing big boy pants.

be wharped like her because you

retard alert

#48 | Posted by badgerwest at 2009-10-10 09:21 PM

Self-retort???

If I remember right you have admitted to being divorced, had a failed printing business, didn't save for your daughter's college education...

Tell us how wonderful you are crispee creme

#49 | Posted by bruceaz at 2009-10-10 09:23 PM

Sorry Brutheee. I don't need to impress anyone. Much less a guy.

"It's just sad when people like you reveal your angry reality by remembering details about other posters lives just to try an diminish them."

Would this be a good example of trying to diminish someone danni???? What was that about embarrassing one self?

"A guy who works on an oil rig is going to be my moral compass as to "getting over it" with the stolen election. Riiiight. Laughable"

then what's your point.
I thought you were telling us how much better you were than others.
I'd love to hear it.
Glad no need to impress.
love, bruthee

"You sure you want to be wharped like her because you can't forget?"

Crispee

I don't know what 'wharped' means, but when the mountain of shit Bush left us in is whittled down enough to be able to see the horizon I'll begin to try to forget Bush. HIstory will never forget the disaster Bush was. Who would have expected or even imagined anyone could manage to become more reviled and unpopular than Richard Nixon?

On the other hand, all this Obama hate is ridiculous. Must be the melanin, because no one has listed a single thing he's DONE to earn 'fear' and contempt.

#48 | Posted by badgerwest at 2009-10-10 09:21 PM

Self-retort???

sure it is half wit...

#55...

You thought wrong.

You got some problem? Open your yap and say it. Or is this your knight in shining armor act?

Self-retort???

sure it is half wit...
#57 | Posted by badgerwest at 2009-10-10 09:42 PM

There is the exacta. How about the trifecta???

A guy who works on an oil rig is going to be my moral compass as to "getting over it" with the stolen election. Riiiight. Laughable.

What does "getting over it" have to do with morality, Danni? Furthermore why do you so condescendingly disparage oil workers while you gulp the product they bring you by the barrels to enrich your life?

Get real, girl. Stop using the product I bring you if you are going to look down on me for doing it.

"I was on the plane yesterday coming up to Washington and I heard someone complain that their child's acne was because of George Bush...

Aw. Poor Jebbie can't get a break from the legacy of his brother. Can't separate himself from it either, and it just sticks in his craw. Too damn bad. We're all living Bush's nightmare and it's going to take a long time to fix all the damage he's wrought.

I'm sure the GOP would love nothing more than for all of America to "get over it." This coming from the same idiots that, to this day, bring Clinton and Carter up.

It ain't gonna happen. This albatross is your creation and it has a very long shelf life.

"I was on the plane yesterday coming up to Washington and I heard someone complain that their child's acne was because of George Bush...

Aw. Poor Jebbie can't get a break from the legacy of his brother. Can't separate himself from it either, and it just sticks in his craw. Too damn bad. We're all living Bush's nightmare and it's going to take a long time to fix all the damage he's wrought.

I'm sure the GOP would love nothing more than for all of America to "get over it." This coming from the same idiots that, to this day, bring Clinton and Carter up.

It ain't gonna happen. This albatross is your creation and it has a very long shelf life.

58 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-10-10 09:42 PM | Reply | Flag: Waste of bandwidth

YAP YAP YAP YAP YAP

Sorry for the double

All of our current problems can be directly traced to Bush's Presidency.

*sigh*

Yes, I know. You know. We all know.

Get over it and move on.

#56...

The former or current Pres. only comes to my mind here on Drudge. Neither changed or changes my life. They aren't important enough to waste an ounce of emotion or time.

Allk Mommy and Daddy had to do with Jr was to instill some discipline in Him. Trouble is they were more worried about making names for themselves than being PARENTS. That is what went wrong with Dubya.

Larry

then what's your point

#63 | Posted by bruceaz at 2009-10-10 09:46 PM |

No shit. That's three posts and still nothing you wrote is worthwhile. You got something to say? Say it. What are you afraid of?

Why do you 'fear' Obama and why do you say 'I can't stand the guy'. Be specific please.

Really. I grow weary of answering this question. I did it as recently as yesterday.

I don't like him adding to our already burgeoning debt. I don't like him meddling with corporations. I don't trust him because he keeps breaking campaign promises. I dislike he is not ending the wars. There's more, but that certainly is enough to justify a dislike of him.

Please, copy this to a word file so I don't have to keep repeating it.

They aren't important enough to waste an ounce of emotion or time.

Of course, like you, they've never been specific either

Bullshit. I've answered that question several times.

How about the trifecta???

you want me to say how fucking retarded you are again????

I don't like him adding to our already burgeoning debt. I don't like him meddling with corporations. I don't trust him because he keeps breaking campaign promises. I dislike he is not ending the wars. There's more, but that certainly is enough to justify a dislike of him.

You must REALLY have hated Bush. Wow.

#69...

What are you 12? That's twice you have ignorantly asked me "what's my point"? Get someone to read it for you. Or as Wisgod so eloquently stated "Do you want me to chew your food for you too?"

Yes, I know. You know. We all know.

Get over it and move on.

#66 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-10 09:47 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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Tell that to the Families of these folks to just Get Over It and move on.

"Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it"

The 22nd amendment assures us that will not happen in the case of Bush.

Get over him.

How about the trifecta???

you want me to say how fucking retarded you are again????

#74 | Posted by badgerwest at 2009-10-10 09:52 PM

Nice... How about the superfecta next?

Goatman, I'll remember it. Appreciate your so-so attempt to justify your hatred and fear.

Tell us how wonderful you are crispee creme

this is what i have to say and what i said.you are disparaging of others.let's hear what a financial success you are.How's your kids education going.Never failed at anything,or never took a risk

What are you afraid of

you must be teasing yourself

You never addressed my question:

That's because I had a job to do. You need to be more patient.

Tell us how wonderful you are crispee creme

this is what i have to say and what i said.you are disparaging of others.let's hear what a financial success you are.How's your kids education going.Never failed at anything,or never took a risk

What are you afraid of

you must be teasing yourself

#81 | Posted by bruceaz at 2009-10-10 09:55 PM | Reply

Are you fucking deft? Did you even bother to read anything prior to my post to danni? Bruthee Boy.

You must REALLY have hated Bush. Wow.

Yes I did, yav -- at least as president. I've always said that on this blog and never varied from my position.

Your point?

Whatever you say, Goatman.

#16 | Posted by nutcase

Vote rigging software in Southern Florida??

The place with the butterfly ballots??

What are you talking about??

Tell that to the Families of these folks to just Get Over It and move on.

How do you know they haven't, Larry?

And if they haven't, get me their contact info and I'll be glad to.

I guess I'm fucking deft.I've been following the post from the start.
Anyway I'm sure we'll argue on another day.
Enjoy your weekend.
Thanks for answering none of the questions.
Anonymity of the internet,ain't it great

Appreciate your so-so attempt to justify your hatred and fear.

What does that mean?

"Are you fucking deft?"

Um...not to butt in, but I think you mean daft.

Deft means skillful.

Whatever you say, Goatman.

#90...

I bow to the king. lol

Are you fucking deft?

#83 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-10-10 10:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why yes, yes he is.

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Thanks Danforth

Whatever you say, Goatman.

It sucks when your attempt at a poke at me falls flat, doesn't it, yav. Fact is I've said dozens of times that I don't/didn't like Bush as president. Sorry my posting history doesn't dovetail with your ham-handed attempt at derision

#93...

Looks like someone stole your thunder BOob.

BTW... Did that rocket hit your smokestacks the other day?

Thanks to you too Buffalo Bob

"It is rather telling the leadership of the party still continues to look backwards. Ignoring the fact they have had the Majority for almost three years. Bush was a lame duck Pres "

Did you not take civics class, or are you just ignoring reality? The Dem "majority" was worthless with an opposition President who threatened veto for anything he didn't like, combined with a Republican minority who set the all time record for filibusters in less than half the time.

#97...

How Obama like of you to accept a compliment you didn't deserve.

#98...

Are you saying the majority could not stop a lame duck President from destroying the Country? Did they do anything to slow down the freefall?

bush really sucked--worst president ever. sorry big bro...

"Are you saying the majority could not stop a lame duck President from destroying the Country?"

Absolutely. The Dems could do nothing, as long as they were facing an opposition President and a minority willing to choose obstruction over cooperation. And that's not just theory; look at what actually happened: most ideas required (and didn't get) the 60 votes needed for cloture. Those that did didn't have the 67 needed to override a veto. So the laws that prevailed were the ones written and signed into law by the Republicans.

A determined minority can thwart anything the majority wants. And that's exactly what happened. As I stated back then, Robert's Rules of Order ruled the day, and the Republicans didn't allow anything from the Dems to pass.

We can all use this compliment to move forward.And I donate the award to charity.

LOL,take it easy OC.

Look...I'm gonna...I'm gonna let you finish, but Beyonce had one of the deftest videos of ALL TIME...I'm just sayin'....

#102...

Not to defend the tactics of the repubs under your scenario, but I think it says more about the weak leadership of the dems.

#103...
Touche Bruce.

#104...
Was that a cheap shot? I already bowed once. Isn't that enough?

"Was that a cheap shot?"

Good God, no.

It was my Kanye moment...a response to #103.

Sorry if it was taken any other way. Truly...it was my (lame) attempt at a joke....

#108...
It wouldn't have bothered me. Seeing as I got off easy for that mistake. Figured I deserved worse.

"Not to defend the tactics of the repubs under your scenario, but I think it says more about the weak leadership of the dems."

Sorry...it says more to the determination of the Republicans not to allow anything Democratic to get through. It's the numbers: 60, then 67. A same-party majority only needs 60, then 50.

Just the facts. Anytime you set the all-time record for filibusters in less than half the time, it speaks for itself.

#110...

They got the increased funding of SCHIP through after a Bush Veto.

Jeb Bush: Stop Blaming My Brother

response: GO FUCK YOURSELF!

"They got the increased funding of SCHIP through after a Bush Veto."

Um...yeah...after Bush left office.

From Wiki:
During the administration of George W. Bush, two attempts to expand funding for the program failed when Bush vetoed them. In February 2009, President Barack Obama signed legislation. [...] In the wake of President Barack Obama's inauguration and the Democrats' increased majorities in both houses of Congress, legislative leaders moved quickly to break the political stalemate over SCHIP expansion.

#113...

That was my point danforth. The dems got it through, three times. Maybe not the best example. But the only one that came to mind. Mostly because Bush was right to veto.

If you have any aspirations to become President, think again Jebbie boy. The nation will never forget the first two.

"The dems got it through, three times. Maybe not the best example."

Well, yeah, maybe not...since it proves my point, not yours. Between filibusters and not having votes to override vetoes, Dems had no chance of getting anything written into law.

As I said the whole time, give me 41 votes in the Senate, and let me blame you for everything you don't get done.

FL won't forget you either.
You are just as big of a criminal.

Appreciate your so-so attempt to justify your hatred and fear. - Timex

What does that mean?

#89 | Posted by goatman

Your fear and hatred (and that of the right in general) simply isn't backed up by anything that's hurt this country. Obama's been President 9 months and 20 days. As an American, what's your problem in giving him a chance and seeing what the results are before you take such hardened positions on his young Presidency?

Link:
what the he**'s up with the linking?

www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/ kidd227.htm

#120...

O for 3 on links.

I really admire the way Jeb was a national deficit hawk when W was running the nation into the ground, and then burying it with patriotic dirt.

Hey Jeb, it's ALL your brother's fault!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

BTW, you suck too!

HEY JEB GO FUCK YOURSELF MAN AND TAKE YOUR BROTHER WITH YOU. YOU PIECE OF SHIT YOU WRECKED FLORIDA LIKE YOUR SCUM SUCKING BROTHER WRECKED THIS NATION!!! FUCK OOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sure, just tell any crime victim "Get over it, it's in the past." Why prosecute anyone for any crime or wrong doing? "It's in the past" Why sue any company for making a defective product? "It's in the past" Why jail child molesters? Can't their victims just "Get over it"? After all..."It's in the past".

Stupidest reasoning ever.

The Conservative Mantra:

1. The President has the power to do anything he wishes without oversight.

2. The President is not accountable.

3. If you violate rules 1 or 2 you are unAmerican and unAmerican voices are not with us, they are against us.

Preach-on Jeb!!!!

Murph,

Clint Curtis wrote a book in 2004, "Just a Fly on the Wall", in which he recounts how Yang Enterprizes Incorporated (YEI) was hired by then speaker Tom Feeney to write software in order to quickly change precinct results on voting machines run by computers such as Diebold. The YEI owners brother is a chinese illegal alien convicted of espionage for downloading NASA files for which he paid a small penalty. Feeney identified Southern Florida as the make or break area. Feeney made sure YEI got work with NASA and Florida Dept of Public Works. Tom & Jeb were running mates in Jeb's first failed attempt at the Florida governorship. A State investigation into that scandal ended in an alleged suicide of the investigator.

Everything isn't Shrub's fault, he's just the dumbest fuck to ever hold that office. The differences between the average Demowussie and Rethuglican, or political right or left winger have not resulted in any meaningful policy changes. That show is put on to create the illusion of Democracy. Rubin from G-Sax manipulated Clinton, then Paulson from G-Sax manipulated Shrub, now Geithner is manipulating Obama.

The reason Demowussies won't make a bigger stink about these crimes is they have dirty laundry of their own and there is no telling where the investigations might end, most likely a complete discrediting of our two party system. Neither party wants that.

Its all bullshit and its bad for you.

Perhaps lil jebbie wants some of the credit for his brother's, er...a..."accomplishments", eh?

After all, if not for jebbie purging thousands of black voters from the rolls of Florida voters in 2000, his lil aWol bro would have lost overwhemingly......in a national election that saw him garner half a million LESS American's votes....

And yet, they STILL needed their daddy's cronys on scotus to APPOINT him potus.

If I was jebbie, or any other bush, I'd stfu, considering the legacy of FAILURE.

the legacy of a legacy=failure

Goatman, you're the same person who 'fears' Obama and 'can't stand the guy'.
The big difference is, of course that Bush is the past. We can't do anything about it. Obama is now and is currently in a policy making position.
Surely you knew this?
Get over it.
I will when he is out of office and can no longer influence the course of this country
#25 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-10-10 08:50 PM

Interesting isn't it. This guy doesn't want to LEARN from the past, and claims he didn't vote for bush, but defends him every chance he gets AND smears the current potus of 9 months for what he MIGHT do, hoping he'll fail. (but on another thread he claimed he doesn't represent that opinion)

Anyone expecting any substance backed by facts or expecting more than empty insults from goatee is barking up the wrong tree....

This guy doesn't want to LEARN from the past...

???

I never said that. At any ate, even if I didn't, the 22nd amendment keeps it from repeating in Bush's case.

...and claims he didn't vote for bush...

???

I never claimed that either.

...but defends him every chance he gets...

???

I never defend him, unless you call correcting a lie "defense"

...AND smears the current potus of 9 months for what he MIGHT do, hoping he'll fail.

???

I never said I hoped he'd fail. Get a life, joke -- one that utilzes this virtue we call "truth".

Anyone expecting any substance backed by facts or expecting more than empty insults from goatee is barking up the wrong tree....

Yet you keep barking and barking like an abandoned puppy looking for his mommy. LOL What's that say about you?

52 0f 130 posts are by goatman and crispee. Nearly all of them are attacks on other posters, notably Danni. The opportunity to be nasty and negative is mother's milk to them.

"Danni. The opportunity to be nasty and negative is mother's milk to them."

I think for some a negative life is better than no life at all. I wasn't even aware of this thread after around 9 something last night, had other things that I needed to be doing.

Nearly all of them are attacks on other posters, notably Danni.

I did not attack danni even once. Please produce a post where I did then STFU after your apology

"had other things that I needed to be doing."

Clearly they didn't.

Goatman,

I didn't waste my time analying all your pearls of wisdom in depth. Maybe it was crispee who felt threatened by Danni while you were feeling threatened by someone else.

I didn't waste my time analying all your pearls of wisdom in depth

Then you shouldn't have my name in the group that you claimed attacked Danni, should you?

"Goatman,

I didn't waste my time analying all your pearls of wisdom in depth."

Shouldn't take long.

Then you shouldn't have my name in the group that you claimed attacked Danni, should you?

"52 0f 130 posts are by goatman and crispee. Nearly all of them are attacks on other posters, notably Danni. The opportunity to be nasty and negative is mother's milk to them.

#131 | Posted by brock"

The post above is written in standard American English. Is English not your native language? Note particularly "nearly all of them are attacks on other posters, notably Danni. Not exclusively on Danni is implicit or is this too subtle for you?

I think for some a negative life is better than no life at all.

Yea. Tell me all about it, danni:

A guy who works on an oil rig is going to be my moral compass as to "getting over it" with the stolen election. Riiiight. Laughable.

Posted by danni at 2009-10-10 09:02 PM

Keep gulping that oil, girl even though we stupid oil riggers who bring you that stuff you can't live without are below you

Note particularly "nearly all of them are attacks on other posters, notably Danni.

???

OK, produce a post out of the set you cited where I attacked another poster, or STFU after you apologize.

Goatee and Crispee are like two peas in a pod. (Ever notice how often they inhabit the same thread, or join in with AFK, 101, and other trolls?)

But,

All of their posts are directly on topic and none are strawmen, red herrings, diversionary or disengenuous.

They NEVER insult, namecall, smear, anyone, nor do they stalk particular posters that for whatever reason, they don't like.

They are model DR citizens who post here for the chance to have meaningful discussions with other Americans.

And they aren't sad little people who have no power or a life so that they feel the need to stalk, attack, or divert these threads at all.

LMFAO

I can't be bothered. You produce 21 on this thread that weren't.

This is all quite fun but at 3:30ish Central two NFL games are now beckoning from my DVR. Priorities, priorities.

I can't be bothered.

IOW, you lied.

#141 | Posted by woke at 2009-10-11 03:31 PM

Well, woke, at least I'm not a liar as you have proven your self to be.

Oh yeah, tell me more about stalking.

I only reply to you when you address me. You bring me up when I don't address you.

Tell me more about his stalking thing you accuse me of. LOL

Wah, wah, wah....

"yeah woke, liar, yeah, blah, blah, blah......"

Sorry boy, each thread shows the facts of you stalking me.....over and over and over....that's the great thing about internet blogs, the text stays there so it's difficult to deny the bullshit.

Since you are unable to glean the difference, I was responding to someone else's post. You know, other posters who you were namecalling/smearing with no substance, like you do me.

That is why the righties HATE sites like media matters and think progress and newshounds who post the exact transcripts of right wing media lies, then points out the bullshit.....

Sorry boy, each thread shows the facts of you stalking me

I only reply to you. That is not stalking. You jump on posts of mine that are not addressed to you.

And you all me the stalker.

You're funny.

And I notice you do not deny being a liar.

No need to deny something that isn't true and no facts in evidence genius.

And a lil juvenile, namecaller troll like you calling someone else a liar is hilarious.

Your credibilty is null, void, zero, zilch, zip, nada, not, the empty set.

LOL

"I only reply to you"

No, you namecall and insult me and ignore the FACTS/INFO presented in the substance of my posts.

That's not replying, that's stalker/troll behavior.

But I wouldn't expect a disengenuous pos like yourself, who says if their own granddaughter were being stalked on the internet, they would call them "pussies".

Hard to believe you would ever be able to be around any women for any length of time with the nasty misogynistic words you spew.....

for instance:

"Quinnipiac University". Is this some online school?
"Quinny" is an archaic term for pussy. It is etymologically derived from the Latin "cunnus" (whence cunnilingus and cunt)
Pussypack university?
#27 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-10-10 03:50 PM

Why don't you explain to your little granddaughter what "pussypack" means genius?

Woke

Why don't you explain to your little granddaughter what "pussypack" means genius

Leave Goatman's granddaughter out of your retorts, please. Goat loves her and there is no need for you to make her fodder when doing battle on with him on here. I know he wouldn't do it to you.

btw -- Goatman is one of the more respectful posters when it comes to him directly addressing other women posters here on DR.

Just pointing out his misogyny chris.

Thanks for letting me know what a valued member of this community he is.....I'll be sure to tread as lightly with him, as he does with me.

My point, which I admit was over the top, stems from me asking him on another thread if he would consider lightly his grandkids being stalked as he has me on DR. His response, as I recall, was he would tell them to quit being pussies. Then, i see his repeated misogynistic humor posted today. So, it's not much of a stretch to see why I'm asking him if he uses that language he posts here with his grandkid.

That being said, I sincerely apologize to anyone who was offended.

There's always going to be blame Carter, Bush, Clinton, Obama.... always....

That's right TAK

Which is why i prefer to look at issues and ideologies, rather than people.

nixon/agnew/ford=8 years...the beginning of neoconservatism
carter=4 years, a populist liberal
reagan/bush41/quayle=12 more years of neocon rule
clinton/gore/
contractONAmerican congress=6 more neocon rule (clinton signed every pc of repub legislation)
bush/cheney=8 more years of neconservatism

let's do the math, shall we?

That's 34-36 years of neoconservative policies of deregulation, tax breaks for the rich, nafta, preemptive wars, etc....

to 4 for Carter.....

Uh, it's obviously all Carter and the liberal's fault, eh?

LMFAO

"I was on the plane yesterday coming up to Washington and I heard someone complain that their child's acne was because of George Bush"

BULLSHIT!

This man is of the Bush clan, I wouldn't believe a single word he said.

Kids singing his praises in school, the poor on the street adolating him, now the Nobel for . . . what? Messiah seems appropriate to me.

#31 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-10 09:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Kids singing Bush's praises in NOLA even after his miserable response and yet I don't see you calling him 'Messiah'.

BTW, I could care less what you call the President. I just like pointing out your regular hypocrisy.

BTW, I could care less what you call the President. I just like pointing out your regular hypocrisy.

???

What are you talking about? I never even knew about any Bush songs, much less comment on them. How does that make me a hypocrite, Nonsense?

52 0f 130 posts are by goatman and crispee. Nearly all of them are attacks on other posters, notably Danni. The opportunity to be nasty and negative is mother's milk to them.

#131 | Posted by brock at 2009-10-11 02:44 PM |

Goatee and Crispee are like two peas in a pod. (Ever notice how often they inhabit the same thread, or join in with AFK, 101, and other trolls?)

#141 | Posted by woke at 2009-10-11 03:31 PM

If anyone is interested in seeing what "Brock Woke Mountain" are yapping about. Here is a little chronilogical showing their like minds. (Amongst other things...)

#28 Was an opinion. NO attacks on Posters...

#33 Was c/p and retort to post #27. No attacks on Posters...

#36 Was retort by danni to my post. Yes attack by danni calling me stupid in the present and past on Drudge...

#37 Was c/p to danni putting down someones job and speaks of a "moral compass". Simply reminded her of her own words and past posts. No atacks on danni. Only the truth...

#38 Was c/p and retort to Timex. No attack on Poster...

#41 Was c/p and retort to danni's "stupid" reply. No attack on Poster, just a pun to her and a "right back at ya"...

#43 Was another reply to Timex and a reminder of danni's nine year itch and wharped mindset. Yes attack on danni... ( After being called choice words by danni in previous post, as it turns out)

#46 and 51 Were replys to danni, who once again didn't get the hint of not being in any position to point fingers and as usual proved my accusation.
No attack on poster...

#156 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-10-12 09:27 AM | Reply | Flag: Zzzzzz...Huh?...Wuh?...Oh, him/her/it?
...Narcissism...Zzzzzzz...

#157...

That deserves a FF...Just not by me of course. lol

I might blame W for the economy, but I blame Jeb, among others, for W.

Excellent point.

I don't blame Dubya nearly as much as I blame JEB. Dubya didn't sign PNAC, JEB did. It wasn't Dubya's state that stole the election, it was JEB's. Dubya didn't appoint Harris, JEB did.

Wow Kanrei and I agree. Jeb was behind the corrupt 2000 election.

One interesting thing, when I was growing up, Dubya wasn't my neighbor, but JEB was. 168th street and 80th court- he lived 4 houses down in the 80's.

#160...

I not trying to argue with someone who lives in the state, but how does Bush appointing Harris play into the fiasco? I thought Harris was compelled by law to sign off on the results. Wouldn't any other appointed by Bush have to do the same thing?

I thought Harris was compelled by law to sign off on the results. Wouldn't any other appointed by Bush have to do the same thing?

#163 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-10-12 10:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

The law that changed how recounts were done, allowing Sec State to end a recount before it was completed, in Florida was written with the help of Harris when she was in the Florida legislature. The fix was in long before the election.

#164...

So it was the state legislature not Harris. Again, what other Sec of State wouldn't have done the same thing?

#165...

I seem to remember the media calling the state of Florida for Gore while there was still an hour left of voting in the north western part of Florida.

Crispee,
I am not going to relive 2000 yet again here. Everything that can be said, has been and none of us are legal experts.

I will post this:

The actions of the Florida Secretary of State, Katherine Harris, who was in charge of state election procedures, also came under fire, due to her status as a Bush state campaign co-chairman, her involvement with the "scrub list", and her behavior during the recount crisis. In particular, democracy advocates have taken issue with her antagonizing of Democrat lawyers, her dispatching of a lawyer to Palm Beach county to convince the voting board of voting down a manual recount[clarification needed] (despite thousands of protesters within the county including 12,000 with affidavits), and in particular her collaboration with Republican party advisers (at one point housing them).

#168...

Those same implications and accusations have been all over the map. She was an elected official not appointed.

She was stupid, she dressed funny... Yet nobody could point to a law she broke as Sec of State.

Yes Joe, the scub list is a big one. She purposely left off social security numbers and only used names. How many Joe Washingtons do you think are in Florida? You do realize that every Joe Washington was banned from voting in 2000 if one Joe Washington was a felon because Harris did not include any other information, right?

#170...

She also allowed thousands of military votes be scrubbed because the DNC claimed they were invalid due to postmarks.

A Bush talking about taking personal accountability.

That's rich.

Jeb also said quit blaming Neil - those women were all over him, and they never told him they were hookers; he was powerless to stop the adultery inflicted upon him. Poor Neil, poor George, poor Jeb.

#156 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-10-12 09:27 AM |

Pooor woke gets his ass handed to him again. . .

That guy must love the abuse

I've gotta feel for the simple son of a bitch. He wanted to be president in the worst way, and I'd bet he would be better than his brother even in deep stages of syphlitic dimentia. Unfortunately his brother fucked everything up for the Bush family and the rest of the republicans.

He did such a piss job the country elected an unqualified Muslim Socialist with Stalinist tendencies.

Pooor woke gets his ass handed to him again. . .

That guy must love the abuse

#174 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-12 02:49 PM
------------------------

I have been reen reading his unhinged delusional rantings for over five years now.......

Trust me, the boy needs Serious mental health care

EH woke?

.

What are you talking about? I never even knew about any Bush songs, much less comment on them. How does that make me a hypocrite, Nonsense?

#155 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-11 08:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sorry GoatShit, my mistake on this matter. You're not a hypocrite (on THIS matter), just fucking ignorant.

Well, now that you know, I'm sure you'll only refer to Bush as Messiah, right GoatShit?

You're not a hypocrite (on THIS matter), just fucking ignorant.

???

Because I'm not able to dredge up every little bit of Bush minutiae like which kids sing about him?

Whatever, nonsense

Well, now that you know, I'm sure you'll only refer to Bush as Messiah, right GoatShit?

No. Obama is the Messiah. Bush is the chimp.

Where have you been?

Jeb,
Divorce that mexan wife of yours, marry Liz Cheney, and pick Sarah as your VP.
PRICELESS!!!

And at some point people are going to have to put on their big-boy pants and assume responsibility ...

But 9-11 was all Clinton's fault.

Hey Jeb!
MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT MAYBE WE SHOULD BLAME YOUR FATHER! HOW ABOUT THAT?!

.45CALIBER

Hey Jeb!
MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT MAYBE WE SHOULD BLAME YOUR FATHER! HOW ABOUT THAT?!

.45CALIBER

no I blame his mother, no question.

Rhymes with Rich. Plus -sized.