This should to be interesting...

And Obama WH pushes back and refuses to send anyone to testify.

mmm mm mm

I'm going to make a suggestion to you, corky... while Feingold may indeed feel strongly about this question, I think you're being trolled/distracted.

Unless Feingold is too pissed that we aren't currently debating universal single payer, I think he knows that there is a time and place for issues like this.

oops, I meant Murphy.

Sorry, Cork-meister.

So Feingold wants to debate or have harings on the substance.

What is wrong with that?

UHC is dead and so is the gov't option or whatever they want to call it.

And the fact that right now the WH is poo pooing one of their own is a sign of the things to come.

Misunderestimating the territory that Congress has for their houses is something that Obama neglected to learn when he was trying to find the Men's Room in the Senate.

"much like a pedophile"

What a bitch, to throw around hateful words like that. Who Would Jesus Defile?

what would you call it, danforth?

incidentally, why have you been tailing me lately? have i done something in particular to piss you off or is someone sending you emails in my name? much like the first time except in reverse?

"what would you call it, danforth?"

I'd call it smearing someone with a bald-faced lie.

"incidentally, why have you been tailing me lately?"

People who pretend to be Christians, and who invoke religion to be completely un-Christian, piss the hell out of me. Pedophilia is a serious crime; throwing around the accusation blithely is about the least Christian thing anyone can do.

"Pedophilia is a serious crime; throwing around the accusation blithely is about the least Christian thing anyone can do." - Danforth

No truer words were even spoken.

I wonder if BuffaloBob has figured it out yet?

Probably not.

No doubt he's still stupified over that tongue lashing he got from Rcade.

Pedophilia is a serious crime

Strewth.

That's why Kevin Jennings is being focused upon.

For his complicity in such a serious crime.

Be Well.

"No truer words were even spoken."

Agreed.

A few years ago, two of my best friends went through possibly the nastiest divorce I've ever seen. As they were fighting over his visitation rights with their paraplegic daughter (CP), she accused him, in court, of sexually abusing the little girl. When she finally recanted, and admitted she had made it all up, the furious judge granted him full custody, reasoning no woman who would throw a charge like that around should be allowed around children.

Same goes for our resident faux Christian.

"That's why Kevin Jennings is being focused upon. For his complicity in such a serious crime."

Except the kid was of legal age at the time.

Who's been lying to you?

Except the kid was of legal age at the time.

He was a minor.

"Media Matters for America has exclusively obtained the Massachusetts drivers' license of the student confirming that at the time of the incident, he was at least sixteen years of age -- the legal age of consent in Massachusetts."

"He was a minor."

He was past the age of consent. Your beef isn't with Jennings, it's with the state of Massachusetts.

I wonder if BuffaloBob has figured it out yet?

Probably not.

It seemed to me that he used that word a lot more often than anyone else I've ever known. I'm not implying anything -- I'm just sayin' I thought it was weird how much he liked to use that word.

He was a minor.

I can't believe you're defending this sick shit.

"I can't believe you're defending this sick shit."

You called it "a serious crime" in post #10. You're full of shit.

He was past the age of consent

Its still pedophilia.

No straws to grasp at required.

Keep fighting the good fight, Danforth.

"Its still pedophilia."

No, legally, it's not, dumbshit.

The is the standard JSM tact: once again, your defense is that everyone has to ignore the real definition, and instead buy your made-up definition. The kid in question had every legal right to have the affair with the older man if he chose. Jennings had no obligation to "report" what was completely legal.

"Pedophilia's a serious crime, proxy queer."

And claiming it when it doesn't exist is scummy, closet case.

Jesus.

Ladies and Gentlemen, this has been "Danforth".

The 10 o'clock show is completely different from the 6 o'clock.

Pedophilia is a crime, Jerk.

Was a crime committed?

And claiming it when it doesn't exist is scummy, closet case.

I'm sure you told bOoB that when he made his outrageous allegations about mind controlled sex slaves being forced to bring boys into the White House for trysts with Bush, Bob Hope, and Henry Kissinger.

But wait! That was different -- right?

"I'm sure you told bOoB"

I never posted on those idiotic threads. Feeding that troll is a worthless waste of time.

DANFORTH

Keep that in mind when BuffaloBob comes back under a new handle.

It'll probably be something obvious.

I nominate CLARABELL!

I see Jak correctly claims pedophilia is a crime, yet refuses to state whether or not a crime was committed.

Typical, from the queen of the closet cases.

"Keep that in mind when BuffaloBob comes back under a new handle."

Feel free to do it for me. I avoid those threads like the plague.

Keep that in mind when BuffaloBob comes back under a new handle.

Did he finally land himself in jail? (I guess I could go look myself) I haven't seen him lately.

But yes -- It's Howdy Doody time!

As I have heard the story, the child was 16 at the time and was legally allowed to make the decision. However, if Mr. Jennings thought he was 15 (which is what Mr. Jennings said), then he would have had an obligation to report the crime, not just make a condom joke.

So, the question isn't was the child legal, but did Mr. Jennings believe a crime was taking place and do nothing? If Mr. Jennings KNEW the kid was 16 and that the person he was involved with wasn't in a position of authority, then he didn't have to report it (should have made a better comment than he did, but it wasn't as serious a failing).

But that is just my personal take on the issue.

danforth - i did not call jennings a pedophile - i question his intentions. it is a known fact that pedophiles groom their victims with literature, porn and nice words - what's the difference between that and making sure all our five year olds know what goes on between two men or two women and SHOULD be accepting of that?

i don't pretend anything - i'm not a nice christian. i'm pist at what i see happening to this country much like many who are scared shitless of saying anything so keep their christian mouths shut - trust me, for every one of me, there's at least a hundred of them and many who thank me for my boldness because their pantywaist pastors are afraid of losing their tax exempt status.

have a nice day and try to avoid me as i will you.

Attaboy, Russ. Take care of this before you lose your Senate seat to Tommy Thompson.

I'm glad Feingold is going to do this. I know the battle cry "well, Bush did it" is supposed to be the answer to everything.. but in my view.. appointing Czar's is bypassing the Senate's advise and consent role.. which pain in the butt though it is, works overall for the good of the country..

Kevin Jennings, who is now becoming a big headache for the Obama admin.. would NEVER have made it through a Senate confirmation.. (and neither would some others) (and maybe, some of Bush's wouldn't have either.. )

And that's the point..

The Obama praise and worship team is going to attack Feingold... but (I'm having to force my right winger fingers to type this) Feingold is behaving in a statesman like manner..

A democrat......... who could believe it?

Jennings is a sleezebag.

I am surprised Dan is defending him.

He thought the kid was 15--he should have reported it. Even Jennings admits it was a mistake.

But that is not the half of it. He promotes homosexual sex, fisting and telling all kids everything about sex.

He has no regard because he follows an ideology of sex for all.

So Mass says the age of consent is 16?

Must be a Barney Frank law...

lets see now..
I post this on the site and get attacked for posting and here we have its own little thread.
well you go girl..

keep up the attack murphy as the leftists here who call for diveristy and free speech continue to try thier attempts at silencing the other side.

"I am surprised Dan is defending him."

I'm not defending him; I'm slamming assholes who blithely throw around the word "pedophile" without regard for the truth.

Well then would you condemn the guy for what he did?

And anytime someone puts up an argument Dan--you throw out the Christian card.

You are trying to shut up the opposition and you should knock it off.

How come in Murphy's 40 didn't She pitch a hissy fit against those in the Republican Party who labeled anyone that Opposed Dubya's illegal behaviours that they were UnPatriotic UnAmerican etc etc etc why She didn't say knock it off to them??? Inquiring minds (Well Mine) wanna know.

Larry

"And anytime someone puts up an argument Dan--you throw out the Christian card. You are trying to shut up the opposition and you should knock it off."

I'm merely showing Nanc what happens when her principles are applied to her. If she doesn't like being judged in that manner, maybe she shouldn't judge others in that manner.

anytime a small child is indoctrinated into adult sexuality, it can simply be surmised as a "grooming" process. ALL pedos follow this m.o. sometimes for weeks, months or even years.

is jennings a slimeball, danforth?

apply my principles to me all you'd like, danforth. they are good principles. i am a good person.

"apply my principles to me all you'd like, danforth.

Fine.

You're not really a Christian.

And the law determines who is a child, and who is of the age of consent.

And the law determines what a "minor" is.

And a minor is a child.

Ergo Jennings is a pedophile.

Very simple, Ye Martyr of the Kiddie Fiddler.

"anytime a small child is indoctrinated into adult sexuality, it can simply be surmised as a "grooming" process."

This was a 24 yr old and and a 16 yr old, both of legal age. Hardly a "Polanski" moment.

"is jennings a slimeball, danforth?"

No. You are, however.

"And the law determines what a "minor" is."

You're purposely ignoring the age of consent under the law in Massachusetts.

Why won't you answer: was a crime committed, or not?

"Pedophilia is a serious crime"

Is it? I was under the impression that "criminal sexual abuse" was a crime, and that "pedophilia" is simply a general term used to describe the notion of being attracted to children. Could just be the case in my state though.

"Could just be the case in my state though."

Excuse my lax use of terms. My mistake.

But since you've weighed in, Joe, maybe you can answer the question for Jak. This student was 16 when the affair occurred: was a crime committed, or not?

"was a crime committed, or not?"

I thought Jak simply called him a pedophile.

From Wiki:

"In law enforcement, the term "pedophile" is generally used to describe those accused or convicted of the sexual abuse of a minor (including both prepubescent children and adolescent minors younger than the local age of consent)."

It seems this case doesn't apply, except in regards to the scummy and false accusation.

Yes, in law enforcement - in the states that even use that term. My understanding is that the term is most often used in terms of psychiatry or sexuality, and simply means being attracted to children.

"I thought Jak simply called him a pedophile."

Reading is fundamental, Joe:

"That's why Kevin Jennings is being focused upon. For his complicity in such a serious crime"
~JSM, #10
"Pedophilia's a serious crime"
~JSM, #20

"Yes, in law enforcement - in the states that even use that term."

Which then refers to your "Could just be the case in my state though" comment.

So, was a crime committed in Massachusetts, or not?

Maybe.

"The point of this section is to penalize someone for inducing an innocent minor to commit an unlawful sexual act. It does not of itself declare any sexual acts to be unlawful. To illustrate, if a married person were to initiate a sexual relationship with a "chaste" 16-year-old, that person would be in violation of this section because adultery qualifies as unlawful sexual intercourse under Massachusetts law; if the person were unmarried, there would be no violation. Note: this section has been successfully challenged as being unconstitutionally vague (i.e. the meaning of "chaste" is unclear); the legislature is expected to amend."

From Joe's link:

"Whoever induces any person under 18 years of age of chaste life to have unlawful sexual intercourse..."

Engaging in homosexuality is not unlawful sexual intercourse in Massachusetts.

"Engaging in homosexuality is not unlawful sexual intercourse in Massachusetts."

Nobody said it was.

"the operative phrase in the MA law you cited is "unlawful sexual act".

Which is why I said "maybe." I don't see a list of all the unlawful sexual acts in Massachusetts, and I don't feel like finding one.

"Which is why I said "maybe." I don't see a list of all the unlawful sexual acts in Massachusetts..."

Didn't you read the clarification? It illustrates, quite clearly, no crime was committed.

"...and I don't feel like finding one."

Meaning you don't want to put any effort into discovering you were wrong. Typical.

What a bitch, to throw around hateful words like that. Who Would Jesus Defile?

#6 | Posted by Danforth

And you are a dick-head for your post.

Feingold has grown a set of nuts to actually take on the Mesiah and his 64 Apostles.

Fried Wussy Thom.

"you are a dick-head for your post."

Why? Are you another one of those assholes who throw the word "pedophile" around?

Except the kid was of legal age at the time.

He was a minor.

#13 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao

Why would you argue over that? He was responsible to report it to the athorities and he didn't. Why would anyone even think he could be in charge of safe schools? It's like hiring the bank rober to guard the teller.

So ironic, Jesus probably thinks most of the people who claim to be 'christians' are utter cunts...

"I never posted on those idiotic threads. Feeding that troll is a worthless waste of time.

#26 | Posted by Danforth"

You call it a worthless waste of time, I call it how I choose to spend most of my waking hours.

Goatman

"It's like hiring the bank rober to guard the teller."

It's like electing the republicans to run the Country.

"He was responsible to report it to the athorities"

That's a lie. It was between two people over the age of consent.

You call it a worthless waste of time, I call it how I choose to spend most of my waking hours.

Kinda like you spend yours on me?

No, not like that at all, actually. Unlike you, m'boor, when I am onshore, I can find better things to do than obsess over anonymous bloggers.

Honestly, m'boor -- you can't find anything better to do right now than to troll me?

Sad.

Joe, the operative phrase in the MA law you cited is "unlawful sexual act".

Therefore, no crime was committed.

#60 | Posted by Danforth

So you are saying it was a lawfull sexual act? Just exactly what is a 'lawfull sexual act' in MA? Packing the back of a 16 yr old of any gender?

if i go to Massachusetts can i bang 16 year old girls?

"So you are saying it was a lawfull sexual act"

Yes.

" Just exactly what is a 'lawfull sexual act' in MA? Packing the back of a 16 yr old of any gender?"

Yes.

"if i go to Massachusetts can i bang 16 year old girls?"

Legally, as long as you're not married and aren't breaking any other laws, yes.

Realistically...not a chance.

I read the article and realized that Jennings simply advised the kid to go ahead and have sex with the adult?

WTF did he do that for?

Crime or not......wrong.

"Honestly, m'boor -- you can't find anything better to do right now than to troll me?

Sad.

#74 | Posted by goatman"

Don't be such a fucking crybaby. For a goat, you have awfully thin skin.

he told the kid the next time to use a condom,he now states in hindsight that maybe that was wrong to say.

"he told the kid the next time to use a condom,he now states in hindsight that maybe that was wrong to say"

Not the condom part, idiot.

"Honestly, m'boor -- you can't find anything better to do right now than to troll me?

Sad.

#74 | Posted by goatman"

Don't be such a fucking crybaby. For a goat, you have awfully thin skin.

#80 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-10-08 04:17 PM | Reply | Flag: Answer: Doesn't have anything better to do. Oil rig workers are where it's at

WOW, was that a thread-jack!

Back to the matter at hand;
IMHO there absolutely should be some scrutiny upon the appointment of all of these "Czars". How about fully vetting these idiots that are being given cushy appointments? How about setting some limits on the number of them?

Let's air this out Feingold!

"IMHO there absolutely should be some scrutiny upon the appointment of all of these "Czars"."

Sure. And let's stop sending troops abroad without a congressional declaration of war.

Pedophilia is a serious crime; throwing around the accusation blithely is about the least Christian thing anyone can do.

#8 | Posted by Danforth
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I don't recall your acting this way on all those Rush threads. Tell ya what--I'll go check. Maybe you took your fellow libbies to task for accusing him of pedophilia on his trip to the Caribbean. If so, I'll apologize.

The righties have barked up the wrong tree on Jennings, this dog just won't hunt. But that won't matter, a little character assasination never bothered these scum bags so they'll keep trying to pretend Jennings is a pedophile or even worse.
I just hope one day some of y'all find yourselves on the wrong side of an issue and get the same treatment, it would certainly serve you right.

"In a statement obtained by CNN, the former student, who wanted to be called Brewster, wrote: "Since I was of legal consent at the time, the 15-minute conversation I had with Mr. Jennings 21 years ago is of nobody's concern but his and mine. However, since the Republican noise machine is so concerned about my 'well-being' and that of America's students, they'll be relieved to know that I was not 'inducted' into homosexuality, assaulted, raped, or sold into sexual slavery."

The former student recounted what happened at the time and maintained there was no sexual contact.

"In 1988, I had taken a bus home for the weekend, and on the return trip met someone who was also gay. The next day, I had a conversation with Mr. Jennings about it. I had no sexual contact with anybody at the time, though I was entirely legally free to do so. I was a 16-year-old going through something most of us have experienced: adolescence."

Ah, some so-called "good Christians" on another witch hunt...

Just as a point of order for those complaining about 16 being the age of consent in Massachusetts...the following states also have the same age of consent :

Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia

Source :

Nope. Nada. As usual, Danforth's outrage is selective.

So when I saw there were 83 posts already on this thread, I assumed there would be some serious debate underway.

But no. The libbies are confused: they have Feingold on one side, and Obama on the other, and Steven Colbert and Randi Rhodes have yet to issue talking points on the subject.

" Maybe you took your fellow libbies to task for accusing him of pedophilia on his trip to the Caribbean. If so, I'll apologize."

#83 | Posted by rightisright

Don't recall you criticizing your side of the aisle, which vomited up numerous lies and smears in the last election.

Maybe you ought to shut up until you do, hypocrite.

I saw an enormous herd of swine, flying in an Easterly direction, just before seeing on CNBC that they were expecting a blizzard in hell. Then I saw Nullifidian's post, #82, and happened to agree with it.

Weird day.

"As usual, Danforth's outrage is selective."

As usual, RiR is talking out his ass. He can't prove anything one way or the other, yet makes a claim anyway.

When he's not extolling the virtues of fisting to a group of 14-year olds, encouraging fifteen-year olds to get raped by pedophiles, writing terrorist-endorsed books about gay sex for elementary school students, saying "fuck [Christians]" in a speech at a church, hating on Christians at Puff Ho, and preying upon Mormon kids, he somehow finds the time to lobby for NAMBLA!

Don't recall you criticizing your side of the aisle, which vomited up numerous lies and smears in the last election.

Maybe you ought to shut up until you do, hypocrite.

#88 | Posted by nullifidian
* * * *

Well, that's because you weren't paying attention. I was so PO'd I voted third party, except for one county position, because I happen to know the guy.

Feel free to use Google or Archive, if you like, see for yourself. Otherwise, troll away.

As usual, Danforth's outrage is selective.

And it always seems selective in defense of pedophiles, homosexuals, and other deviants.

I just hope one day some of y'all find yourselves on the wrong side of an issue and get the same treatment, it would certainly serve you right.

If, as a teacher, coach, administrator, or counselor, I advise a 16 year old to go have sex with a 24 year old (or anybody for that matter) and then WRITE IT IN MY MEMOIRS and then be appointed by the POTUS to a CZAR position???

It certainly "serves him right"

" Then I saw Nullifidian's post, #82, and happened to agree with it."

Even a broken...never mind.

As usual, RiR is talking out his ass. He can't prove anything one way or the other, yet makes a claim anyway.

#90 | Posted by Danforth
* * * *

My claim is that when your fellow liberals get into their circle jerks on Limbaugh threads and accuse him of having sex with underage boys in the Dominican Republic, you didn't say anything in protest. If you have a post or two to the contrary, please post it. And I'll apologize. Otherwise . . . no.

There goes Jak again, making up his own definitions and insisting everyone else buy into his lie.

"homosexuals, and other deviants."

The Queen has spoken.

Jennings publicly stated that he was inspired by one of the biggest promoters of pedophilia in the countryHarry Hay. Hay actively promoted sex between men and boys and supported the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). Transcripts of a GLSEN conference in NYC on October 25, 1997 indicate that Jennings said, "one of the people that always inspired me is Harry Hay." Jennings also edited a book called Becoming Visible: A Reader in Gay and Lesbian History for High School and College Students which included a biographical sketch on Harry Hay. One of GLSEN's Education Department resources also lists a work on Harry Hay.

"If you have a post or two to the contrary, please post it."

Sorry, jerk, it's up to you to link to those threads, and prove I participated. A simple post, authored by me, slamming Rush or praising those accusing him will do.

Otherwise, you're just a self-serving jackass.

And it always seems selective in defense of pedophiles, homosexuals, and other deviants.

to be fair, danforth only defends this guy because of who's administration he is a part of...not because of the pedophiles, homosexuals etc...

Personally, I would curse the appointment only because of the piss poor judgement rather than calling him a criminal and leave it at that.

" I was so PO'd I voted third party, except for one county position, because I happen to know the guy."

I remember that. Constitution Party, right?

I was talking about criticizing your "side", not a specific political party. Ideology, not party.

.....Rush just wants to get the players in the showers......

......lather, rinse, lather, rinse, lather, rinse...

"How many times do I have to lather you dumb jocks up before you learn how to do it yourselves ? You think it's fun standing here in the nude lathering and rinsing a bunch of musclebound lunkheads, when I could be in Dominican on the beach with the cabin-boys ?"..Rush Limberger

#28 | Posted by skizziks at 2009-10-06 03:16 PM

By the way, here is a statement from the young man who was the student at the time :

"danforth only defends this guy because of who's administration he is a part of"

My stance is people who throw around the word "pedophile" and "crime" when none occurred are scum.

#98

As usual, Jak has no compunction about spreading lies.

"It's no surprise that upon examining the facts, no such connection exists."

TRUTH
Jennings Admired Harry Hay For Founding The First Gay Rights Group... That's It
Harry Hay Was NEVER A Member Of NAMBLA

#102
That's Skizziks, not me. FAIL.

"This just in: Rush has blamed his own latent homosexuality on Obama. See you in Santo Domingo!"

CORRECTION:
This just in: Rush has blamed his own homosexuality attraction to little boys on Obama. See you in Santo Domingo!

Posted by VMA224 at 2009-06-27 10:58 AM

Rush is just warming up his excuse for next time he gets busted without a prescription.

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce

you might want to add pedophilia with Haitian children the next time he goes to the island.

Posted by Legio at 2009-06-27 11:10 PM

My point is that you don't mind charges of pedophilia thrown around by libbies toward cons, only the other way around. Did you come on and tell Skiziks that it's "one of the worst things you can do"?

Nope. That's what I mean by "selective outrage". See?

Nope, it's an island getaway, with the lithe cabana boys he's hoping for!

Posted by john47 at 2009-06-28 11:19 AM

#107 | Posted by rightisright

You're not going to spam this thread with quotes proving nothing other than lefties can talk trash as good as rightists, are you?

My stance is people who throw around the word "pedophile" and "crime" when none occurred are scum.

#104 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-08 05:00 PM

"My stance is that when conservatives throw the word "pedophile" and "crime" when none occurred are scum, but if one of my ideological brethren do it, I don't care."

Better? Thought so.

Now, are "czars" constitutional? Or not?

"Did you come on and tell Skiziks that it's "one of the worst things you can do"?"

Are you actually pretending I've read everything ever posted on this blog, and agree with whatever I haven't debunked? Are you then in agreement with everything you haven't commented upon?!?

What a fucking moron. You can't find anything from me, so you post other people's writing and pretend to blame me.

Ignorant, desperate, and vindictive is no way to go through life, son.

From Mao's link---About Jennings--

If you were looking for a tutor or even a babysitter for your child would you hire

a person who founded and ran an organization where instructors had explicitly described to middle school youngsters how to perform homosexual sexual acts?

a teacher who had been told by a boy of 15 that he had been sexually abused by an older man, but did not tell authorities or his parents or do anything to protect the youngster from the abuser?

a man who publicly stated that he was inspired by a man who was the number one proponent and promoter of pedophilia in the country?

a person who wrote the forward to a book called Queering Elementary Education?

a person who has publicly, in writing and in speeches, ridiculed and demeaned people of faith?

a person who has publicly, in writing, encouraged young people to defy their parents and religious leaders.

Surely, if you cared about your children, you wouldn't want such a person in a position of influence or authority over their instruction or protection, yet the President of the United States named just such a person to protect the children of this country. Kevin Jennings is the Assistant Deputy Secretary of the Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools at the U.S. Department of Education and reportedly, according to a variety of sources, all of the above questions describe him.

-----

This is all AOK dan??

"a teacher who had been told by a boy of 15 that he had been sexually abused by an older man, but did not tell authorities or his parents or do anything to protect the youngster from the abuser?"

Another proven lie from Murphy.

Is that AOK Murphy?

Ignorant, desperate, and vindictive is no way to go through life, son.

#113 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-08 05:13 PM
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Yeah. That's just what I was thinking.

Hey Murphy, better keep your eye out. I hear there's a homosexual in your neighborhood.

It's from the link Dan--now the guy wants to soften the story--I don't blame him.

How about the other great deeds from Jennings?

Real swell guy?

And here is about Harry Hay--another swell guy..

"It's from the link Dan"

And my earlier link proved that link to be full of lies and smears. Among other things, the student has admitted he was over the age of consent. You're merely passing on a proven lie.

Danforth,

Since you are avoiding the question, I'll ask directly.....do agree with his advice? And do you think the decision deserved scrutiny? (and of course, the facts are relevant)

"Yeah. That's just what I was thinking."

You know, I like your barometer, RiR: any thread that's ever been on this blog which you haven't specifically spoken against is a subject and/or a poster you endorse.

I'll have to keep it in mind for next time.

Off to rehearsal. Play nice, everyone....

I am asking if Dan thinks this is a stand up guy he would aloow around his kids or grandkids or any child for that matter with this guy's history?

Make sure your tutu is on right

:-(

"I'll ask directly.....do agree with his advice?"

No, I don't. But the bigger issue, to me, is debunking assholes who are claiming "crime" and "pedophilia".

"And do you think the decision deserved scrutiny?"

Yes, I do. Jennings has said as much.

My turn: do you believe a crime was committed? And...would you have listened to a high school counselor if you were in a consensual relationship?

"I am asking if Dan thinks this is a stand up guy he would aloow around his kids or grandkids or any child for that matter with this guy's history?"

You're using lies as the foundation. As usual.

Okay...really gotta go.

this pot of olio has all the right (and wrong) ingredients - my work here is done!

Dumb ass GOPhers that complain about Czars!

AT LEAST you KNOW who to deal with. This is nothing more than average exercise of Presidential Delegation of Authority.

AND these Czars are fairly successful and competent individuals.

Compare that to the MEN IN THE SHADOWS who were running Washington during the past Presidential Administration, many of whom were incompetent political HACKS.

This CZAR process is MUCH MORE transparent than the recent past and kudos to the Obama Administration for giving some push back to these hearings!

You see danforth's biggest problem is that this makes Obama look bad which is why he is defending the man over the misinformation rather than address the fact that regardless of whether or not a law was broken Jennings is a HORRIBLE appointment. We have to assume Obama knew about this and choose to hire him anyway.

Rather than deal with that it is easier to shill for jennings

You're using lies as the foundation. As usual.

Okay...really gotta go.

#125 | Posted by Danforth

Then USE YOUR OWN brain Dan --use whatever facts or non facts and tell us if Jennings is a stand up guy YOU would let YOUR kids around???

It's a simple question--and it's like pulling teeth to get an answer from Dan!!

It's a simple question--and it's like pulling teeth to get an answer from Dan!!

#129 | Posted by MURPHY

Answer this question: Where's your Michelle Obama "whitey" video?

86 the drug czar. make him get a real job like everyone else instead of needlessly filling jail cells. stop the madness. end prohibition.

I didn't claim there was a whitey tape weirdo.

I did read and review her yawner of a Master's thesis.

You remember that Null--right?

I didn't claim there was a whitey tape weirdo.

#132 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-10-08 06:04 PM | Reply | Flag: LIAR

Danforth is wrong. He is the only one here thinking differently.

Makes one wonder.

In Massachusetts of course.

Transparency is what was promised, so let's see it. Feingold is fucking true, one of the good things alongside German sausage and micro-brewed beer, as well as cheese curds, to come out of WI.

#80 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-10-08 04:17 PM | Reply | Flag: Answer: Doesn't have anything better to do. Oil rig workers are where it's at

#77 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-08 04:22 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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#80 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-10-08 04:17 PM | Reply | Flag: Answer: Doesn't have anything better to do. Oil rig workers are where it's at

#77 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-08 04:22 PM | Reply | Flag: Oil rig workers are guys that had a criminal record and couldn't get a client job (had to go contract)

My turn: do you believe a crime was committed? And...would you have listened to a high school counselor if you were in a consensual relationship?

no. the law is the law.

to answer the 2nd question...I don't know. Why do you ask?

"to answer the 2nd question...I don't know. Why do you ask?"

Because there is no way on earth I would have listened to my high school counselor if I were 16 and getting my freak on.

Which, as it turns out, wasn't happening. The kid, over the age of consent, wasn't engaging in sex.

"Danforth is wrong."

Well, then, by all means, The Chapel, whatever you do, accuse people who are involved in consensual, legal, over-the-age-of-consent relationships of being pedophiles, and committing crimes, and make sure that anyone who knows about these legal relationships between two people over the age of consent gets condemned for not reporting these legal liaisons to whatever authorities, who will -- of course -- laugh you out of the room.

"USE YOUR OWN brain Dan --use whatever facts or non facts "

Well, you're using only non-facts. Otherwise known as lies.

Hey, how about this: I'll make up a bunch of lies about the next person, and then judge you on whether or not you support the person I'm lying about...just like you do.

Fair enough?

Because there is no way on earth I would have listened to my high school counselor if I were 16 and getting my freak on.

Which, as it turns out, wasn't happening. The kid, over the age of consent, wasn't engaging in sex.

and yet Jennings told him to "get his freak on".

"In Massachusetts of course."

And another several dozen states, including the red states Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, Oklahoma, South Dakota, and West Virginia.

Your point?

"and yet Jennings told him to "get his freak on"."

No...Jennings, probably realizing what's going on in the mind of a 16 yr old, told him to be sensible if he was going to do what he was going to do.

Admit it, if this were a 16 yr old girl, no one would be making a peep. And if it were a 16 yr old boy and a 24 yr old girl, we'd all be cheerleading.

The total double standard here reeks.

Why won't you answer: was a crime committed, or not?

#45 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-08 01:09 PM |

If Jennings thought the boy was 15, his duty would be to make a report. Regardless of whether or not a crime was committed. The facts coming out later is not relevant to Jennings initial responsibility. That's the way I see it.

Admit it, if this were a 16 yr old girl, no one would be making a peep. And if it were a 16 yr old boy and a 24 yr old girl, we'd all be cheerleading.

The total double standard here reeks.

Bullshit. The double standard is that if were a republican nominee the left (including you) would be pissing themselves over this guy. THAT is the double standard.

Jennings, probably realizing what's going on in the mind of a 16 yr old, told him to be sensible if he was going to do what he was going to do.

to a kid who wasn't sexually active who sought his advice?

huh?

Do you believe a crime was committed?

"no. the law is the law."
~Eb

Then where is your condemnation of Jak? According to RiR's barometer, if you don't condemn Jak, you endorse him.

Come to think of it, RiR obviously supports the notion of falsely accusing people of crimes and pedophilia, since he never once spoke against those who would smear and slur in that manner. What a scum.

the wrong kind of change

the wrong kind of change

"Bullshit. The double standard is that if were a republican nominee the left (including you) would be pissing themselves over this guy. THAT is the double standard."

Prove it.

Is Jennings a Christian who attends church?

If he were a repub nominee then the left would be crying...."YEAH, another great example of hypocritical rethugs who can't stick to JUST SAY NO"!!!!!

"who sought his advice?"

It was a 15 minute meeting. Once.

I don't know about you, but I didn't give my HS counselor's advice the weight of a feather.

Prove it.

#146 | Posted by Danforth

Wow. Great tactic.

My god, guys. Have you checked out the deleted comments page lately? Put this one down and give the blog god a break.

I don't know about you, but I didn't give my HS counselor's advice the weight of a feather.

I probably wouldn't have either. But,did you go looking for advice from your high school counselor on sexual activity.......as a virgin???

I wouldn't have but this kid did.

I can't fucking believe you are defending this jackass.

My god, guys. Have you checked out the deleted comments page lately? Put this one down and give the blog god a break.

I saw it and it is total bullshit. pedophila is an issue in this thread (as a matter of law) so deleting comments related to it isn't appropriate IMO

I don't know about you, but I didn't give my HS counselor's advice the weight of a feather.

I guess that if he was depressed and was considering suicide, Jennings could have given him a gun because, according to you "I didn't give my HS coulselor's advice the weight of a feather."

good grief.

"If he were a repub nominee then the left would be crying...."YEAH, another great example of hypocritical rethugs who can't stick to JUST SAY NO"!!!!!"

If you have a like post of mine employing that logic, post it. Otherwise, you're drifting into RiR territory.

"if he was depressed and was considering suicide"

How many false scenarios do you have to invoke? What a pile of bullshit. Read the kid's statement and get back to us.

"I can't fucking believe you are defending this jackass."

I'm bashing assholes who toss around lies to further personal agendas. Wouldn't you do the same?

As to your topic, I agree with you: this was yet another shitty choice by Obama.

That being said, what do you think of the folks claiming crimes and pedophilia?

"Wow. Great tactic."

Remind me next time we're in it that making up lies about you is AOK.

What a pile of bullshit. Read the kid's statement and get back to us.

you are the one who is dismissing this guy's advice because you claim you wouldn't have listented to it anyway.

If you can't admit that his advice was total bullshit then keep your head in the sand with the others who can't remove Obama's balls from their chin.

"you are the one who is dismissing this guy's advice "

And you're the one pretending he was endorsing an illegal relationship. He wasn't.

"If you can't admit that his advice was total bullshit"

Between two consenting participants? Get your panties out of their wad.

"Have you checked out the deleted comments page lately?"

Wow! I've more than doubled my deletes of four years in one thread!

Looks like Jak & Nanc can't handle the truth.

I'm bashing assholes who toss around lies to further personal agendas. Wouldn't you do the same?

point out the law? yes. but you know better than me who you were dealing with.

And you're the one pretending he was endorsing an illegal relationship. He wasn't.

I have done no such thing. I haven't mentioned "illegal" at all.

But you ARE defending this advice.

that is horrible.

Between two consenting participants? Get your panties out of their wad.

If you told my 16 year old virgin daughter to go fuck a 24 year old boyfriend and then claimed that "it is legal"...........that wouldn't have worked out too good for you.

gotta go

"But you ARE defending this advice.'

Bullshit. When you asked, "do agree with his advice?" I said, specifically, "No, I don't". (#121) Why do you feel the need to lie about it now?

"If you told my 16 year old virgin daughter to go fuck a 24 year old boyfriend..."

Yet another false scenario Eb must invoke.

You've jumped the shark.

"and then claimed that "it is legal"

It WAS legal. Nice try, though.

".....that wouldn't have worked out too good for you."

Okay, so you admit your answer to a legal relationship would be to do something illegal. You lose.

Yet another false scenario Eb must invoke.

You've jumped the shark.

what is false about it? This story is about a 16 year old and a 24 year old and the advice of a counselor.

I simply invoked another 16 year old having sex with a 24 year old.

you are just going to the ends of the earth to defend this guy by first clamoring on about the law (fair enough) and then dismissing his advice as YOU wouldn't have listened to it anyway (what laugh considering that you accused ME of jumping the shark when you simply invoked yourself into it)

If you are going to shill for the guy and his boss then stop trying to hide it. you are naked anyway.

Okay, so you admit your answer to a legal relationship would be to do something illegal. You lose.

you are saying that if it was legal then it was okay.

pretty simple world you live in isn't it??

gays can't marry....legal. therefore right.

how does that suit you, shillforth?

DANFORTH

more from our carter argument

President: James Earl Carter, Jr.
Vice President: Walter F. Mondale

Population: 225,055,487
Life expectancy: 73.9 years

Dow-Jones
High: 907
Low: 742

Federal spending: $504.03 billion
Federal debt: $829.5 billion
Inflation: 13.3%
Consumer Price Index: 72.6
Unemployment: 6.1%

ALSO DANFORTH

most of searches IM getting are like this one where its books for sale. I pasted this because I didnt think rcade wanted the ad to go on here
but the idea is the same as I stated the other day

Jimmy Carter: The Liberal Left and World Chaos: A Carter/Obama Plan That Will Not Work

"If you told my 16 year old virgin daughter to go fuck a 24 year old boyfriend..."

"Yet another false scenario Eb must invoke.
#165 | Posted by Danforth"

So she's not a virgin?

DANFORTH more from our carter argument

Inflation: 13.3%

So your claim of 20% was a lie.

Unemployment: 6.1%

So your claim of double-digit unemployment was a lie.

If Obama had made these claims, you would have (again) called him a "fuckin' liar".

You've now proven yourself wrong twice. Which makes you a fuckin' liar, right?

"gays can't marry....legal. therefore right."

TOTALLY different. First, they can marry in places. 2nd, the issue regarding Jennings is whether or not he should have a) stepped into a consensual, legal relationship, and b) whether he should have 'reported' this legal relationship between two people past the age of consent to the authorities. The tangential issue is how scummy people are claiming "crime" and "pedo". If anyone has a problem, take it up with Massachusetts and the other dozens of states where the legislators have made 16 the age of consent.

"you are saying that if it was legal then it was okay. pretty simple world you live in isn't it??"

No, Eb, my point was if it's legal, then it's not a crime, it's not pedophilia, and the counselor had no obligation to report it to any authorities.

But it's easier for you just to make up whatever rules you want based on situation, affiliation, and orientation, isn't it? It's easier to bitch at me than to bitch at the state and the legislators. If your 16 year old daughter is having sex your home state, and that state has set the age of consent at 16, that's your problem with the state, not with me. Blaming me for what your legislators did is cowardly.

jennings is a liar and probably fantacized about the young man in question having sex with an older man:

regulatory czar, cass sunstein says americans too racist for socialism:

It's easier to bitch at me than to bitch at the state and the legislators. If your 16 year old daughter is having sex your home state, and that state has set the age of consent at 16, that's your problem with the state, not with me. Blaming me for what your legislators did is cowardly.

I apologize if you have taken it that way. I'm not blaming you for the law and I'm not blaming legislators either. My problem isn't with the law.

My problem is with THIS former counselor and his absolutely piss poor decision regardless of what the law said. And any defense of this idiot citing the law is a deflection from his poor decisions...yes, I recognize that it would be unfair to call him a pedophile etc if he didn't even break the law...I haven't brought the law into this issue.

But you are obviously defending this guy and holding the law up as a basis when you know full well my issue isn't with the law.

you are choosing to run in circles defending someone that I am not attacking unfairly.

That is cowardly.

Saw 3 folks in Flag/Jesus/Obama's a Hitler tee shirts during the Teabagger's protest in D.C.. They were railing against 'czars', implying they were akin to Nicholas of Russia - ready to imprison people. When the reporter pointed out these 'czars' don't have any real power the male said, "WHO TOLD YOU THAT?! Where'd you read that?!".

jennings is a liar and probably fantacized about the young man in question having sex with an older man:

www.washingtontimes.com

#174 | Posted by nanc at 2009-10-09 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Skanc,

Placing your latent pedo fantasies online is rather sick.

"But you are obviously defending this guy "

From false accusations. From being slimed. From ongoing smears. And from out-and-out lies. None of that means I agree with him. I've also stated the advice wasn't the correct advice, and the choice was a poor one. You've chosen to ignore that, and even suggested you'd do something illegal, even if the counselor did nothing illegal.

We've both known mature 16 yr olds, and immature 40 yr olds. For better or worse, each state draws its own arbitrary line. Massachusetts drew that line at 16.

There are also double standards we're dealing with. On threads of the past, when a female teacher had an affair with a male student, some posters thought that would be hawt. I doubt any would if the genders were reversed, although I also have no doubt there would be horrific screams if they were both male. There's also a difference here, in that there was no danger of pregnancy. BTW, I'm not glorifying or justifying the double standards, just pointing them out.

Again, I still think this was not the best advice, and still believe this was another poor choice on Obama's part.

I think Washington, D.C. is getting ready to legalize same sex marriage. Probably to accommodate all the new czars.

What's next? Single Prayer government?

jennings is a liar and probably fantacized about the young man in question having sex with an older man:

www.washingtontimes.com

#174 | Posted by nanc at 2009

FBI infilitrated nambla for two years I believe it was and result was 17 indictments for child porn and abuse and in that time the name kevin jennings came up more than a time or two as a person who IN HIS OWN WORDS..was "INSPIRED" by a man named Haye who was the nambla icon and hero..
according to the agent the prefered age was 10-12 and he sat through one 'seminar' where they discussed oral sex with 18 month old boys

and the OBAMA SAFE SCHOOL CZAR is a fan of these people....

nice work liberals

"by a man named Haye who was the nambla icon and hero.."

Another lie from the fuckin' liar.

Hey, Afkabibble, why don't you post a third link proving you lied twice about Carter. Two proving you wrong just isn't enough.

The use of the term 'czar' within this administration is not lost upon me.

OK I'm going to come straight out and ask why 50% of the czars are Jewish when only 2% of the USA is Jewish.

The only answer I can see is that the Obama and Emmanuel administration are either racist or are blatantly paid off.