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Thursday, October 08, 2009

Federal regulators in the Bush administration blocked attempts by state governments to prevent predatory lending practices that resulted in the financial crisis now stalking the American economy, a new study from the University of North Carolina says. In 2004, the Office of the Currency Comptroller, an obscure regulatory agency tasked with ensuring the fiscal soundness of America's banks, invoked an 1863 law to give itself the power to override state laws against predatory lending. The OCC told states they could not enforce predatory-lending laws, and all banks would be subject only to less-strict federal laws.

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Foxes in the hen house.

Bush and the Republicans should have gotten the federal government out of the mortgage business completely, and defunded Fannie and Freddie. That move alone would have saved a few trillion dollars.

What a beautiful opportunity missed. Useless Republicans.

Useless Republicans.

Redundant Righties.

"What a beautiful opportunity missed. Useless Republicans."
#2 | Posted by rightisright

When are the Democrats going take charge and get the federal government out of the mortgage business completely, and defunded Fannie and Freddie? Or are they going to be useless Democrats? Maybe after they get out of the Auto business? The banking business?

Fortunately, though, Bawney Fwank is on the scene, to double down on Bush's $2 trillion in losses. Go libbies! Just because taxpayers will be paying off the Chinese for 30 years to prop housing prices up, doesn't mean we can't do it for another round! Gobama! GoFwank!

crashed the economy on purpose. why am I not shocked anymore...

Barney Frank did a lot more to create this.

The OCC told states they could not enforce predatory-lending laws, and all banks would be subject only to less-strict federal laws.

Where is the right-wing ideologue's battle cry, "States Rights!"

Just as most of us thought, the made sure the bubble would keep inflating, their only miscalculation was when it would burst. It popped a little too soon for them to do their usual shifting of the blame. Amazingly, the very loyal but stupid rightie posters here will still defend those people even though many of them have themselves lost thousands due to the Bush administration's purposeful manipulation of the housing industry.
Some folks deserve what Bush brought them, the one's who still defend him do for certain.

Giving people money, ie no redlining or 125% financing, was a demand of the left...especially acorn!

Who's fault was it that they didn't read THE CONTRACT???

For instance, did you read your credit card contract where it states the rate, such as prime +18%???

"the very loyal but stupid rightie posters"

At least we READ danni, and know a suckers deal when we see one. Leftie's are to dumb to comprehend what they read. very apparent from the way YOU respond to headers!

Giving people money, ie no redlining or 125% financing, was a demand of the left...especially acorn!

Getting people to purchase the houses they kept building was a demand of Wall Street, and the bankers who loaned to the home builders. Supply was too great so demand had to be "stimulated."

Both parties found something they liked in the bubble. That's just how a successful long con is played. If you'll remember, this one started when Clinton signed the repeal of the safety measures put in place after the Great Depression.

I bought a decent house I could afford. All good here.

One of the key culprits:

I am the Banking Queen

I bought a decent house I could afford. All good here.

weeniewurst

So once again GOPhers demonstrated that they are incompetent assholes and it cost us trillions? What a surprise. Not.

We could defund the military and make it completely privatized since you idiots love everything in the private sector.

"completely privatized"

That happened as soon as universal service was eliminated.

ANd if Bush had blocked these lending practices rawstory would have demonized him for not allowing the poor to buy a home.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

#15 | Posted by badgerwest at 2009-10-08 08:35 PM | Reply | Flag: Squatter

So once again GOPhers demonstrated that they are incompetent assholes and it cost us trillions? What a surprise. Not.

cry us a river

again.

"He's just developed enough hubris from 40+ years on the hill to make him believe he doesn't have to be discreet about his slimyness."

I don't know if that is really true but even if it were he still had an obligation to insist on responsibility instead of using the housing bubble as a campaign tool. Without the housing bubble we would have been in the recession we are in right now and Bush would not have had a chance in 2004. They intentionally encouraged the lenders to make crazy loans to keep the bubble inflating.

but, but, but Fox says Dodd and Frank were to blame.

...but Shrub's website bragged about the program until it tanked, at which point they removed the references and credits.

#22

???

Step away from the bong. LOL.

And give me a hit.

C&P error.

Giving people money, ie no redlining or 125% financing, was a demand of the left...especially acorn!

Who's fault was it that they didn't read THE CONTRACT???

I wonder how often you watch/listen to Billy Boy? Seriously, you have memormized his talking points to the "T". Good job, care to share one single thought or point of your own?

The demogogs can't fix or sew up anything, like a double snatch whore they just keep letting it slide out of both drawer legs......

Dr Feelgood-
What's a "demagog"? More importantly, what the fuck! - christ on a cracker - is a "double snatch whore"?

What's a "demagog"?

Shit, I know that one, boyd. He misspelled demagogue. You couldn't figure that out?

Fuck

ANd if Bush had blocked these lending practices rawstory would have demonized him for not allowing the poor to buy a home.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Wow, what insight!

But, just to clarify, who are all these people who were complaining about the poor not being able to buy a house? I forget exactly who it was that was talking about an "ownership society", but I don't recall Raw Story being part of that.

Perhaps you could refresh us.

It might help to make what you said not appear to be a completely pathetic attempt at deflection.

Or not.

Wow, what insight!

It doesn't take much when considering a far leftwing site like rawstory.com. You needn't give me that much credit

But, just to clarify, who are all these people who were complaining about the poor not being able to buy a house?

Barney Frank et alia when they were engineering Fannie Mae several years ago.

Goatman-
FYI: The "ownership society" is Bush's terminology.

Bawny engineered Fannie Mae several years ago? News to me!

Considering its been around since 1938, the motherfucker must be older than sin and quite possibly the longest serving congressman ever.

" when they were engineering Fannie Mae several years ago."

"Several years ago"? Would you care to put a date on that? That wasn't when the Republicans controlled both houses, all committees, and the Presidency, was it?

Ya' know, back when they were feverishly trying to reform health care......

re-engineered. Excuse me.

FYI: The "ownership society" is Bush's terminology.

That's nice. The concept was democratic

re: #36 I just thought I would clue you in on the reference from another poster that went over your head.

re: "democratic"

I thought "democratic" was good?

That's nice. The concept was democratic

#36 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-08 11:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm guessing you meant 'Democratic' here. So tell me, was deregulation of the financial sector a classically Democratic or Republican idea?

I thought "democratic" was good?

there are a lot of republicans who don't think so

C'mon... honestly. To blame Bawney or Bush for this mess -- in exclusivity or together -- is just laughable.

Bush's policies simply hastened the inevitable unraveling of American largess financed by silly Asian bankers ponzi-scheming Wall Street banksters.

Bawney was just looking out for his own (self) when he worked to reform Aunt Fannie.

Ultimately, neither was really that important in the grand scheme of things.

An entire generation raised on the idea of American exceptionalism and personal entitlement to anything and everything is what created this mess.

Insatiable greed. Plain and simple.

Bush or no Bush, Frank or no Frank, the result would have been the same.

Oh dear... I might have just outed myself as being "unpatriotic"... oops.

I thought "democratic" was good?

there are a lot of republicans who don't think so

#40 | Posted by goatman

GoatbOoB playing word games again. And some dumbasses fall for it, night after night.

Shit, I wasn't even fishing, but I still caught him! Jumped right into the boat and started flopping. LOL

#43 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-08 11:55 PM | Reply | Flag: Juvenile

#44 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-10-08 11:56 PM | Reply | Flag: stung by the truth

It was a nice save by Goatman for confusing the political parties for the political philosophies.

It was a nice save by Goatman for confusing the political parties for the political philosophies.

???

oh never mind. Assigning positions again.

doesn't it ever get old, boyd? C'mon --- just answer it this once.

I'm simply noting them.

"t was a nice save by Goatman for confusing the political parties for the political philosophies."

GoatBoOb doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground, much less a political philosophy from a political party.

Null-
He does now :)

GoatBoOb doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground, much less a political philosophy from a political party.

The opinion of the site's arguably biggest pothead really carries a lot of weight. Let's go see what Joe the Wino at the corner of Elm and 6th thinks, too. LOL

Your name isn't Joe, Goatman.

LOL

Your name isn't Joe, Goatman.

How do you know?

At the very least, maybe "Joe" will understand the difference between the big letters and the small ones when spouting off over his wine bottle at whatever intersection between bull and shit he happens to prefer.

Let's go see what Joe the Wino at the corner of Elm and 6th thinks, too. LOL

#51 | Posted by goatman

Why? Was was he in your GED class?

You fuckers have fun.

Your name isn't Joe, Goatman.

Hardy har har. The GED joke. Always a winner. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop with the "mom's basement" joke. Still funny after all these years. You are a fountain of originality -- especially the goatbOoB thing. Where in the world did you get the idea for that one! It's quite clever. LOL

You fuckers have fun.

#56 | Posted by BetelG at 2009-10-09 12:12 AM | Reply | Flag: Pissed he's the fuckee

"ardy har har. The GED joke. Always a winner. "

From what I hear, the shoe fits in your case. Not that there's anything wrong with it. Take pride in your GED, and your subsequent AA, GoatBoOb.

From what I hear, the shoe fits in your case

From whom?

That's what I thought. Just a very, very lame attempt at keeping the GED joke afloat.

Is that the best you can do? I'll tell you what -- Being the benevolent person I am, I'll do you a favor. I'll feign offense so that you can save face by pretending you broadsided me with something original and witty then you can try again.

OK? Here goes

I'm pissed you insinuate I have a GED.

(how's that? enough to keep you from flopping and pretending that the GED thing was witty and original?)

I think this would be a good time to pull out one of your old standards -- you know, the one you say a lot about me posting more words than you? Though well worn, you haven't used that one in a while. I suggest you use it now.

"I'm pissed you insinuate I have a GED."

Really? For a goat, you have a very thin skin.

Really? For a goat, you have a very thin skin.

Like kid gloves

You take this stuff much too personally, Goatman. It's just bizzness.

It's just bizzness.

That's why I was cracking a joke. "Kid" (baby goat) gloves, which are made from the thin skin of baby goats. Get it?

So once again GOPhers demonstrated that they are incompetent assholes and it cost us trillions? What a surprise. Not.

#16 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-10-08 08:39 PM | Reply | Flag: WRONG HANDLE - SHOULD BE "SOREWINNER"

The Bush admin blocked state led efforts to try and minimize the harmful impact of the unsound lending practises in order to keep his artificially inflated "ownership society" bubble growing?

"But but but... it was all them greedy inner city folks!

Rush tole me!!!!"

~The Right

If you'll remember, this one started when Clinton signed the repeal of the safety measures put in place after the Great Depression.

~Snoofy

Both parties are responsible which is why looking to either party to fix this is almost laughable.

Be Well.

What has redlining got to do with predatory lending policies? The problem with relining was that it prevented responsible people in redlined areas from being able to get loans; the type of people that could have paid back the loans and helped rebuild communities. Predatory lending is entirely diffent. Predatory lending has to do with loaning people money that did not have the means of repayment or tricking people into bad loans. Redlining treated everyone within the redlined area the same irrespective of their economic status and has nothing to do with predatory lending.

Listening to Barney Frank didn't help.

Oh great two paragraphs from elliot spitzer and the left tap dances with glee??? Your views HAVE NOT been exenoraited....

So tell us Elliot, why did you tell the state police to investigate your enemies and then lie about it?

How are you doing versus, how well did AIG do under the new management you picked??

What does ANYTHING coming out of elliot shitzers mouth qualify for a response. NOTHING HE SAYS COUNTS FOR JACK SHIT

Predatory lending practices did not cause the financial crisis. It is actually very dangerous to promote this bullshit because we need to understand that greed caused the crisis. We can't throw a bunch of predatory lenders in jail and then go back to business as usual and think it won't happen again.

The banks were greedy in that they lowered their standards knowing full well many loans would default but not caring because they were mis-grading and reselling them anyway. The people who bought the loans allowed greed to cloud their judgement. The borrowers were greedy to consume more than they could afford - either by buying a house they could not afford or by following a cycle of running up ridiculous credit card balances and then paying it off with re-fi until they lose their home.

Predatory lenders exist. But they were a drop in the bucket. And the easiest people for them to take advantage of? Those blinded by greed.

Everyone knows that poor people caused the housing meltdown. The Bush Administration was just following its trickle up economic philosophy.

Liberals have so poor an understanding of economics that it is impossible that their efforts and statements are intentionally aimed at the destruction of capitalism--at least, not those actions and words which _do_ in fact shake the foundations of the system: their _conscious_ efforts (if _anything_ done by a liberal can be termed "conscious") aimed at the destruction of capitalism are utterly worthless and can be entirely ignored; it is, alas, those actions which they don't even realize are harmful to the capitalist environment that are the truly dangerous ones. In other words, yes, liberals not only desire the destruction of the capitalist system, but they are actively plotting its downfall; however their _conscious_ efforts to destroy it are laughable; it is, rather, the unintended consequences of the rest of their actions that are what we ought to truly fear.

But the liberals are only a part of the problem: the conservatives are just as bad. Virginia Postrel said in her book "The Future and Its Enemies": it is no longer a conflict between conservatism and liberalism, but between the statists and the anti-statists; and the conservatives of today are every bit as much statists as their liberal enemies. Many conservative commentators have openly admitted that they are in favor of big government, they just want to change what big government _does_.

"Liberals have so poor an understanding of economics that it is impossible that their efforts and statements are intentionally aimed at the destruction of capitalism"

Never mind that it was liberals who brought the longest and greatest increase in wealth in history. IT was Republicans who ruled over the largest creation of debt in history.
Now who is it that knows nothing about economics again???

It was the Dems who pushed to make loans forthose who could not aford them

"Never mind that it was liberals who brought the longest and greatest increase in wealth in history."

Are you giving Clinton credit for the internet taking off during his presidency or Gore credit for inventing it?

Either way, credit for that should go to the eggheads who really made it happen.

I will give Clinton props for balancing the budget, however.

"It was the Dems who pushed to make loans forthose who could not aford them"

When the scam was going good the banks were tripping over themselves to loan money to people who obviously never paid a creditor back in their lives. The Dems could have never forced these banks to act the way they did. They did it to themselves. And both parties bailed them out so next time they do it we can blame both parties.

At least we READ danni, and know a suckers deal when we see one. Leftie's are to dumb to comprehend what they read. very apparent from the way YOU respond to headers!

#11 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2009-10-08 08:04 PM | Reply |

We read? Na man, hate to tell you but your pretty much the only one, and I have my doubts.

Bush touted an 'ownership society' by hook or by crook. Mostly by crook

Did nobody read the article before you started pounding each other? The headline blames the Bush Administration but...

The study may be the first scientific evidence to back up claims made by many critics that the Bush administration and earlier administrations allowed last year's financial crisis to happen by not enforcing common-sense regulations on lenders.

I would interpret that as meaning both Republican and Democratic White Houses.

This OWNERSHIP SOCIETY concept was created as a way to make people feel invested in their country during the great depression. Massive suffering creates social unrest, which can lead to upheaval or revolution.

Making people feel like they owned something (even if the banks really owned it) makes them more complacent and CONSERVATIVE. Not in a REPUBLICAN way, but in a dont-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-
you way. The AMERICAN DREAM was an invention intended to create the illusion of wealth for the average joe so that he wouldnt question his government or demand more fair and equal treatment from the ruling corporate class.

Bush and Clinton simply turned up the volume on it.

Any republican vs democrat point of view is a false one. This is the rulers tricking the ruled into submission.

"Bush Admin Blocked Efforts to Prevent Housing Crisis"

Yes! Bush, we are finally realizing, was working very hard to support Barney Frank!

I still blaim Bush for letting Barney have his way.

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