Oops!

Who let the Blue Dawgs out?

Most likely a result of a knee-jerk to the scare tactics used by the far right. As more people become educated about the goals of healthcare reform they will tend to sign on.

So then we should be getting a health bill passed when, would you estimate?

Progressives will sign off if we get mandates but no public option, which option the CBO estimates would cut over 100 billion off the total bill.

But it's good to see the facts about this reform are finally filtering thru the manufactured lies and partisan political posturing of the GNOP.

I mean, the truth is hard enough without the purposeful bastardization by the "loyal" opposition.

Drops? What is it now Corky? 98% in favour?

"Progressives will sign off if we get mandates but no public option, which option the CBO estimates would cut over 100 billion off the total bill."

So that brings the total costs to what? $800 billion? How is that for being cost neutral?

Sorry Corky not this "Progressive" No Public Option means no progress. It's a crock of shit without a Governmental ran Health Care Insurance Option. Same shit sandwich.

Larry

-How is that for being cost neutral?

Deficit neutral..... unlike your hero GW's tax cuts for the wealthy and Iraq war, which were just added to the debt.

Larry, I meant we won't sign off on the bill if it has mandates and no po.

Wissy, ask Larry to read the article to you.

I meant we won't sign off on the bill if it has mandates and no po.

Then you probably won't be signing a bill.

In your dreams.

Don't bet against the po yet. Blue dogs are finding over 50 percent approval even in their districts, if not the national 65 percent and growing approval.

And when was the last time you knew pols to vote against something that was popular when they didn't have to.

Obama has, surprisingly enough, timed this well. Another couple of weeks of rising public opinion on the subject, and there will be plenty of Dem votes for it.

Wissy, ask Larry to read the article to you.

#9 | Posted by Corky

I won't trouble him. This version is going nowhere.

Blue dogs are finding over 50 percent approval even in their districts

Not Mary Landrieu.

"Pollsters push people to accept Obamacare"

"Gallup has unintentionally revealed how they, and other polling organizations, have been pushing the public to accept Obamacare.

The revelation came in a report late last month which revealed that a significant majority of Americans believes that individuals themselves, and not the government, should be responsible for ensuring they have health insurance. According to Gallup, 61% of folks they surveyed believe that health insurance should be left to the individual, not the nanny state. Unsurprisingly, 89% of Republicans held that view, but so did 64% of independents. Only Democrats, at 62%, wanted Big Brother to shoulder the responsibility."

-Not Mary Landrieu.

Mary will vote as she's told on cloture, then she can vote as she pleases on the Bill to cover her ass, and 51 will work then.

#15 | Posted by KBM at 2009-10-07 09:39 AM | Reply | Flag: Denial is such an ugly duckling, eh?

"Don't bet against the po yet. Blue dogs are finding over 50 percent approval even in their districts, if not the national 65 percent and growing approval."

Rest assured that everyone will eventually lose their private insurance if the health plan conatains a public option and that doesn't bode well.

"Sixty-three percent (63%) of voters nationwide say guaranteeing that no one is forced to change their health insurance coverage is a higher priority than giving consumers the choice of a "public option" health insurance company.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 29% take the opposite view."

"The fear of being forced to change insurance coverage can be seen in results from a pair of survey questions.

The first question finds that 46% favor the creation of a government-sponsored non-profit health insurance option that people could choose instead of a private health insurance plan. Thirty-seven percent (37%) are opposed.

The second question asked about the creation of a public option if it encouraged companies to drop private health insurance coverage for their workers. Given that possibility, support for the public option falls to 29%, and opposition rises to 58%.

Even if it encourages employers to drop private health insurance for their workers, 51% of Democrats still support the public option. Eighty-two percent (82%) of Republicans and 61% of voters not affiliated with either party are opposed."

Ah, the Raspublican poll, always an outlier to the Right.

has sarah had her meeting with the death panel about her genetic mutant?

Here's a typical Rasmussen spread, tilted Right as usual.

How is that tax on the fancy health care plan comming along?

This morning on the news they aired some poll where the opposition went from a 57-40 against to a 49-49 split. Hardly anything close to Corky's dreams of support from constituents. I am curious how somehow Obama timed this well. lol. Maybe because he hasn't exposed himself to the media everyday at these townhalls, his opposition numbers are decreasing. Was that his plan Corky?

The plan was to let the Congress bash out the details within his outline; let the rightwing fringe in the House make fools of themselves lying to people and Astroturfing with the insurance companies, then swoop in like Batman when the public finally figured it out.

The public is finally figuring it out.

senate health bill imposes another $29 BILLION:

Maybe is half-assed solution for Afganistan convinced another handfull of people that he was a true leader.

Why is it a vast majority say they don't want big gov't yet there is this sector that supports it, supports polls that support it, support a guy who wants to shove it and asimilar down your throat and the best reason they can come up with is he is different than the last guy. Wake up, this is going to F*** us, our grandkids and beyond. Get spending and people (including ins. Execs to be accountable first. Has anyone seen Hillary? Did she pass away?

"Pollsters push people to accept Obamacare"
"Gallup has unintentionally revealed how they, and other polling organizations, have been pushing the public to accept Obamacare."

YEAH!
But the crazy antics of hannity/limbough/bachmann have nothing to do with the recent violence perpetrated by their listeners!

See how this Works!

Oh no! Taxing the insurance industry 29 billion while giving them 1/2 a trillion in subsidies and requiring 10's of millions of new customers to sign up?

Poor babies!

"Ah, the Raspublican poll, always an outlier to the Right."

Now, now, Corker...you know Rasmussen is consistently one of the very most accurate. BUT..you can just ignore it if it causes you anxiety with it's MOST accurate numbers.

Rasmussen produces some of the most accurate and reliable polls in the country today.

-Larry Sabato, University of Virginia

-Larry Sabato... is a major Repube hack, and I posted today's RC polls showing Rasmussen as the odd Rethug out yet again.

uh no its really not.
there is just a downtime as we battle the neomarxist that obama has installed within the government to do what they plan to do.
now we hear about a obamacultist in the fcc who said that reform of the airwaves will "include necessarily the end of capitalism"...
he also loves chavez and what he has done to the radio stations in that oppressed country and has even called for the radio station owners who are refusing to be put on trial for treason

ALL OF THIS coming to a country near you

more details today
fox news 5 pm EST

Rcade, how is that kill filter coming?

afk, has the death panel contacted you yet about your planned meeting?

Even some Tighties are bucking the GNOP propaganda....

Fox's Shepard Smith says public option isn't government takeover

Fox News host Shepard Smith has broken with the ideology of his conservative network yet again.

Speaking with Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY) on Tuesday, Smith took exception to the allegation that offering a public insurance policy through the federal government is somehow a "takeover" of health care.

"Over the last ten years health care costs in America have skyrocketed," he said. "Regular folks cannot afford it. So, they tax the system by not getting preventative medicine. They go to the emergency room in the last case and we all wind up paying for it."

More

"-Larry Sabato... is a major Repube hack, and I posted today's RC polls showing Rasmussen as the odd Rethug out yet again."'

A political science professor, but I'm sure you're right. he couldn't possibly know as much as you and your little friends. Tell me, are Professor Costas Panagopoulos, PhD, and the entire Political Science Department ay Fordham Univeristy republican hacks too. Their study of the last presidential race rated the pollsters in your #21 like this:

RASMUSSEN....#1
AP......##8
Fox....#10
NBC/NYT...#13
CBS...#16

#32 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-10-07 10:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

Rcade, how is that kill filter coming?

#33 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour

Can't be too soon.

"Fox News host Shepard Smith has broken with the ideology of his conservative network yet again."

Just goes to show ol' Corker is wrong AGAIN. Maybe Fox ISN'T just a repube hack? LOL...you and your little friends are absolutely hilarious in your antics on the DR.

Shepard seems to be one of the few there with at least a shred of integrity left... unlike anyone who would promote Rasmussen as anything other than a fringe outlier.

Can't be too soon.

#37 | Posted by nullifidian

does it work both ways where your liberal vomit will be ommitted.

INSIDE baucas bill

cap on pre tax dollars will effect 36 million people as in TAXES GOING UP

also companies who now deduct taxes for corporate taxes will be abolished or at least capped.
this WILL be passed along to the consumer.
result..TAX INCREASE and/or complete government takeover..

and CBO set to announce on baucas bill today...
remember obama..."NOT ONE DIME".....

does it work both ways where your liberal vomit will be ommitted.

#40 | Posted by afkabl2

Definitely. Please put me in your killfile. Thanks.

"Wake up, this is going to F*** us, our grandkids and beyond."

Actually you have become so used to being f****d that you now fear a bill designed to prevent it from continuing. Insurance companies will have to find gratification elsewhere.

"unlike anyone who would promote Rasmussen as anything other than a fringe outlier."

...or anyone so ignorant and biased as to ignore the most accurate of the polls.

-the most accurate of the polls

Laughable. Just look at today's RC.

Corky,
Shouldn't you be posting those in your own beloved party who are also against the Public Option? Wouldn't that give an ounce of credence? Don't you feel the least bit embarrassed pasting repubs as though they are suddenly seeeing the light you follow? When those in your own party is somehow in the dark?

#46 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-10-07 10:43 AM | Reply | Flag: Seems to have missed the DR Open Blue Dawg Slamming Contest

"Shouldn't you be posting those in your own beloved party who are also against the Public Option?"

Nawww...Corker is a zealot and is so full of shit she has a turd in every pocket. She walks around the house all day singing....

MMM MMM MM!
Barack Hussein Obama!

Ya'll will have to just forgive Jest. Once he saw the headline that the public is giving more support to health care reform, he stuck his fingers in his ears and started singing, 'LALALALALALALALALA!"

OOPS

CBO said that the obama white house HAS NOT GIVEN THEM The language they need to make a good assesment of the baucas bill.

GEE>..who could have seen THAT coming?

also in wall street journal

report on the bill PUNISHING doctors who issue too many tests such as oncologists and cardilogist..

remember that libs when your arm goes numb and your chest feels like an elephant sitting on it and you start sweating...

The remaining health care opponents will soon find out that they've been duped by the million-dollar-a-day corporate P.R. push, and then we can make some REAL progress toward healing the nation.

Leads me to muse: opinions are the fours we get when we add up the two-plus-twos of fact. Newspapers should deal more in the fours, since we get the twos off the net before the morning daily hits the porch.

But some folks add the twos and get three or five. Those are called Republicn opinions.

And some sums are truly bizarre: 4,359,367 or .0000000186. Coulter-Malkin-Beck-Hannity-O' Lielly-Palin-Bachmann-Cato- Heritage opinions. We must be careful about legitimizing those sorts of idiocies. herm

Seems to have missed the DR Open Blue Dawg Slamming Contest

Maybe those Blue Dogs are smarter than the rest of the yellow dems. Of course YOU still need these nuanced party traitors to pass your cherised reform. Quite a conundrum Corky.

herm
I still havent seen one single name all this time of a repubican leader who says that there should be nothing done no matter what lies come from the left.
and insurance reform is high on the list

but you see with things going on AS SHOWN IN THIS LINK..
who can trust the obama white house?

Of course, a worse conundrum would be belonging to a Party that had NO Bill to meet the public demand for health care reform.

"Ya'll will have to just forgive Jest. Once he saw the headline that the public is giving more support to health care reform, he stuck his fingers in his ears and started singing, 'LALALALALALALALALA!"

LOLOL...not true, Corker. I KNOW support has increased because RASMUSSEN SAID SO! And we know they're MOST ACCURATE...right?

"Forty-six percent (46%) of voters nationwide now favor the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That's up five points from a week ago. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 50% are opposed to the plan.

With the exception of "bounces" following a couple of nationally televised presidential appearances, this is the first time support for the congressional health care effort has risen. Rasmussen Reports is tracking support for the plan on a weekly basis.

Seventy-eight percent (78%) of Democrats now favor the plan while 80% of Republicans are opposed. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 39% favor the plan, but 55% oppose it."

Poor Corker...you're so f...ed up you make Hogan's goat look like a well-oiled precision instrument.

Opposition to health care reform will continue to drop. Those who oppose health care reform keep dropping dead.

And some sums are truly bizarre: 4,359,367 or .0000000186. Coulter-Malkin-Beck-Hannity-O' Lielly-Palin-Bachmann-Cato- Heritage opinions. We must be careful about legitimizing those sorts of idiocies. herm

Wow. You are really on to something Herm. Out of about 130,000,000 votes casted in the last presidential election those 4.3 million must be stopped. They are hurting this country, they hate Obama. Blah, blah, blah...

Are you really this desperate to post some insignifigant number as though they mean anything?

Now we can only hope that Rasmussen doesn't tell Jest to take a long walk off a short pier.... oh well.... Save the Sharks!

Of course, a worse conundrum would be belonging to a Party that had NO Bill to meet the public demand for health care reform.

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2009-10-

I AGREE COMPLETELY

its a good thing the repubicans have house bill 34oo and a long list of amendments..most of which have been voted down by dems of course...you know in thier THIRST FOR bipartisanship...lol

Of course, a worse conundrum would be belonging to a Party that had NO Bill to meet the public demand for health care reform.

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2009-10-07 11:01 AM

As oppsed to the hypocrites you support? Like Kennedy and the gang of liars when they rejected a HC reform a few years ago? For one reason and only one reason, it was Bushs' idea. Still waiting for you to have an ounce of class and denounce those actions by the party you adore.

Opposition to health care reform will continue to drop. Those who oppose health care reform keep dropping dead.

#56 | Posted by igmoramus at

ah
who would have expected such a clever line from someone calling himslef...ignoramus...good one
maybe someday you can come up with a line that actually has some truth in it...ha ha

- rejected a HC reform a few years ago?

Ah yes. If only people had had their health care privatized in money market funds when the Bush recession hit..... my, my, my!

report on the bill PUNISHING doctors who issue too many tests such as oncologists and cardilogist..

remember that libs when your arm goes numb and your chest feels like an elephant sitting on it and you start sweating...

#50 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-10

just heard more on this
the penalties will be forced on them EVEN IF THE TESTS REVEAL and end up with patient wellness..

oh that should really make a lot of people want to become doctors..and with MILLIONS MORE PEOPLE to care for and the same or less doctors

only a liberal can make that come out to saving money

blt is having Nooner withdrawal pains....

AND TO END this morning posts...sit down...

lets look back to 1961 and a clip of ronald reagan who PREDICTED these days when he talked of a plot for more government intrusion using a populist platform in order to put the govt in direct control of every aspect of an indiviuals life and freedom and liberty..

wow..was he ever on the mark..

and finnaly

ALL HAIL OBAMA
ALL HAIL OBAMA

we who are about to be turned over and fucked
salute you

MMMM mMMM MMMMM

"Now we can only hope that Rasmussen doesn't tell Jest to take a long walk off a short pier.... oh well.... Save the Sharks!"

And also let us hope that Corker is soon cured of optiorectumitis. She contracted that disease when her optic nerves became entangled with her sphincter. That's what causes her azzhole to bite the seat cushion every time she blinks and it gives her a shitty outlook on things. Consequently, like most leftist-socialists, she doesn't know whether to shit or go blind. I hope she will undergo surgery soon and be able to see things for what they really are instead of believing her idol, Nancy Pelosi.

"lets look back to 1961 and a clip of ronald reagan who PREDICTED these days when he talked of a plot for more government intrusion using a populist platform in order to put the govt in direct control of every aspect of an indiviuals life and freedom and liberty.."

Tell me, did he also predict that his economic policies would destroy the economy???

rejected a HC reform a few years ago?

Ah yes. If only people had had their health care privatized in money market funds when the Bush recession hit..... my, my, my!

#62 | Posted by Corky at 2009-10

you dont know what he is talking about.apparently.
there was a health care bill and ideas that ted kennedy said was his most regrettable vote.

geesh..I thought you guys were all smart and everything and knew everything in the history of the world.

lmao!

Ol' Jest musta confused the Viagra for the Oxycontin this morning and got a hard on for me.

Tell me, did he also predict that his economic policies would destroy the economy???

#67 | Posted by danni at 2009-10

time for only a short HISTORY lesson

interest rates were 20%
unemployment was double didget
gas lines
americans held hostage in iran after carter helped the islamic radical takeover by being a pussy
INCOME TAX RATES were sky high

need I go on??

these FACTS are why its laughable when obama and his cultist spokesmen talk shit about what they inherited...

HEY DANNI

I THINK WE MADE IT THROUGH THE SEASON

yeah us....

blt is having Nooner withdrawal pains....

#64 | Posted by Corky at

naw

there is nothing I cant handle
there is nothing I cant do

there is no mountain too high..

HEY ....a song is breaking out as I sit here...

- rejected a HC reform a few years ago?

Ah yes. If only people had had their health care privatized in money market funds when the Bush recession hit..... my, my, my!

#62 | Posted by Corky at 2009-10-07 11:08 AM |

#68...
They all suddenly become Forrest Gump when their heros are proven to be lying, hypocrites. They can run, but they can't hide. Of course the MSM seems to have ran and has yet to do their jobs calling out dems.

Opposition among older Americans fell from 59 percent to 43 percent

They are dying off.

"interest rates were 20%"

Afkabl2 is a liar.

"unemployment was double didget"

Afkabl2 is a liar.

"these FACTS are why..."

Afkabl2 is a fuckin' liar.

"gas lines"

Yeah, 1973 was a bitch.

"FACTS"

Got your WIN button, moron?

#72

Please don't sing.

Your posts are bad enough.

"americans held hostage in iran after carter helped the islamic radical takeover by being a pussy"

You really are disgusting. At least he didn't make deals with the Iranians and send them arms. At least he did send a rescue mission which is more than Reagan did when 286 Marines were murdered by a bomber. And yes there was inflation which Paul Volker was appointed as Chairman of the Fed to deal with and who Reagan kept in office when he became president so crediting Reagan with ending the inflation is pretty silly considering it was Volker's actions that dealt with inflation.
BTW, even with unemployment as high as it is right now it still isn't as high as it got during Reagan's presidency.
He still reigned over the biggest stock market crash since 1929.

Considering that 30% of Americans would oppose anything by Obama no matter fucking what, that leaves 10% that actually thought about it and disagree.

Let's not forget that 30%. I know you recognize that number. That 30% will never support a thing this President does and that fact sheds an entirely different light on these numbers.

crisp

obama is going to have enough trouble when facts such as the fcc czar named mcchessny I believe comes out..the guy who said that fcc refrom would include the end of capitalism and who glorifies chavez

or when the jennings shit hits the fan as from my earlier link

OR when the CBO comes out soon today with thier look at the baucas bill

when we see acorn get a million soon from homeland security
and EVEN FIENGOLD is asking questions about the czars and the WHITE HOUSE EVEN jumped his ass.

and thats not even talking about the NEWS OF THE oil countries ABOUT TO DO AWAY WITH USING THE DOLLAR for thier currency...

so all of these are things that will either deflect from this health care takeover or make it such that we will become a secound class euro socialist country even BEFORE november 2, 2010

"these FACTS are why..."

Afkabl2 is a fuckin' liar.

#75 | Posted by Danforth at

you sir..are the fuckin liar...

and there were gas lines in 1976-80...I guess you were still sucking your mamas tit...zat...

Ol' Jest musta confused the Viagra for the Oxycontin this morning and got a hard on for me."

Impossible! I've never been that mad at my dick.

"you sir..are the fuckin liar..."

You lied twice, in two lines. Inflation was NOT at 20%, and unemployment was NOT in double digits.

You're just pissed because I exposed you for the liar you are.

"americans held hostage in iran after carter helped the islamic radical takeover by being a pussy"

I guess I was day late...

"Kennedy never agreed to the Bay of Pigs invasion"

???

Can't wait for the Carter wasn't responsible for the failed hostage rescue and that it was Reagans or Ford's fault.

I am beginning to think danni reads some sort of Grimms version of history.
#135 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-10-06 03:13 PM |

"or when the jennings shit hits the fan as from my earlier link"

Flags: Listens to that liar Hannity, and repeats his lies.

#84...
Forgot to inlcude the post #78. Rookie mistake?

proof is in the writing of jennings who once wrote the opening for a book entitele
the "queering of elementary education'

and this is for you danforth

-Can't wait for the Carter wasn't responsible for the failed hostage rescue

Yeah. Terrible helicopter pilot, that Carter.

But I guess he'll do as a thread deflection.

"and this is for you danforth"

Gee...you're a fuckin' idiot as well as a fuckin' liar.

The link you provided proves you weren't telling the truth, on either of the issues.

Thanks.

To get back to the business at hand, I think this describes the situation pretty well:

By STEPHEN MOORE
"The Obama Administration's health care public option, which is the key to an eventual government-run system, is starting to look like one of those corpses out of the grave from Zombieland. Last week the public option failed in the Senate Finance Committee and Democrat Max Baucus, the committee chairman from Montana, announced that the votes aren't there on the Senate floor for a government-operated and subsidized insurance option. But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, under pressure from unions and welfare groups, won't take no for an answer, so expect a knock-down drag-out floor fight over the issue on the Senate floor.

Some Democrats, notably Senator Tom Carper of Delaware, are trying to forge yet another compromise. Mr. Carper is promoting a bill to allow a quasi-public option in states where private insurance competition is scarce. That plan is a derivative of the co-op insurance system that many Democrats favor as their "Plan B." Call it a public option in disguise.

Meanwhile, Republicans in the Senate are strategizing over how to stop any version of a public option from getting enacted on the Senate floor. "We have the votes to defeat the public option on the floor," South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham tells me. He's worried that the Senate will pass any old health bill in the Senate, then Harry Reid and Mr. Baucus will reinsert the public option during the House-Senate Conference"

"But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, under pressure from unions and welfare groups, won't take no for an answer"

Yeah riiiiiight, it's just unions and welfare groups who want the public option and not THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!

"But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, under pressure from unions and welfare groups, won't take no for an answer"

Yeah riiiiiight, it's just unions and welfare groups who want the public option and not THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!

Can't wait for the Carter wasn't responsible for the failed hostage rescue

Yeah. Terrible helicopter pilot, that Carter.

But I guess he'll do as a thread deflection.

#88 | Posted by Corky at 2009-10-07 11:35 AM

Deflection from what Corkster? I adhere to the queen of deflections and await your royal advice.

Wow! The Wall Street Journal doesn't support health care reform?

Will wonders never cease?

Wow! The Wall Street Journal doesn't support health care reform?

Will wonders never cease?
#94 | Posted by Corky at 2009-10-07 11:52 AM

In your world anything that doesn't support 100% of all reforms is automatically against HC Reform. Just curious if Obama requests something stricken from the bill, can he be dubbed anti HC Reform? Or does your standard only apply to repubs, blue dog dems or anyone else who may have a problem with the legislation. Even if it is only crossing a T or dotting an I.

My standard applies to people who use up every imaginable rightwingnut talking point about health care reform in the first 3 paragraphs, as this opinion "writer" did.

nsurance. According to Gallup, 61% of folks they surveyed believe that health insurance should be left to the individual, not the nanny state. Unsurprisingly, 89% of Republicans held that view, but so did 64% of independents. Only Democrats, at 62%, wanted Big Brother to shoulder the responsibility."

www.americanthinker.com

#15 | Posted by KBM at 2009-10-07 09:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

LOL....Nope....no bias on that website.

let's look at some of their other 'articles' that display no bias whatsoever.;

The Trauma of Obama
Robin of Berkeley
Why the Nation is having a Psychiatric Emergency More

Obama's Education Secretary returns to the scene of his crime
October 07, 2009
When Barack Obama slithered out of the swamp of Chicago politics, he brought a lot of his buddies with him. More

Ayers admits writing Dreams
James Simpson
It is possible that we have now gotten direct confirmation of this from Bill Ayers himself. More

Obamas' Self-Centeredness on Display
Selwyn Duke
The poverty pitch in Copenhagen overlooked the fact that many of the IOC members are from the Third World. More

Now I realize why you're such a retard. It's not your fault. You're being spoon-fed 'stupid' in gluttonous quantities.

Let me guess......you love NewsMax and WorldNetDaily too?

#96...
Let's see if you have a beef, or are just blowing more smoke out of your ass...

Paragraph 1.
The Obama Administration's health care public option, which is the key to an eventual government-run system, is starting to look like one of those corpses out of the grave from Zombieland. Last week the public option failed in the Senate Finance Committee and Democrat Max Baucus, the committee chairman from Montana, announced that the votes aren't there on the Senate floor for a government-operated and subsidized insurance option. But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, under pressure from unions and welfare groups, won't take no for an answer, so expect a knock-down drag-out floor fight over the issue on the Senate floor.

Rightwing talking point doesn't seem to be in this paragraph... STRIKE 1

Paragraph 2.
Some Democrats, notably Senator Tom Carper of Delaware, are trying to forge yet another compromise. Mr. Carper is promoting a bill to allow a quasi-public option in states where private insurance competition is scarce. That plan is a derivative of the co-op insurance system that many Democrats favor as their "Plan B." Call it a public option in disguise.

Rightwing talking points again doesn't seem to be in this paragraph... STRIKE 2...

Paragraph 3.
Meanwhile, Republicans in the Senate are strategizing over how to stop any version of a public option from getting enacted on the Senate floor. "We have the votes to defeat the public option on the floor," South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham tells me. He's worried that the Senate will pass any old health bill in the Senate, then Harry Reid and Mr. Baucus will reinsert the public option during the House-Senate Conference.

Rightwing talking point could be implied, but you would really have to look... Foul Tip...

"Democrat Max Baucus, the committee chairman from Montana, announced that the votes aren't there on the Senate floor for a government-operated and subsidized insurance option."

Max Baucus, bought and paid for by the insurance industry, announced

Anything he says is a right wing talking point.

- key to an eventual government-run system

-starting to look like one of those corpses out of the grave from Zombieland.

-Leader Harry Reid, under pressure from unions and welfare groups,

-Call it a public option in disguise

-strategizing over how to stop any version of a public option

Wouldn't know a Repube talking point if it bit him on the ass.

Obama: Health Care Plan Would Give Seniors Right To Choose How They Are Killed

10.06.09

WASHINGTON"If your grandmother would rather be euthanized in the privacy of her own home than be gutted and hanged on a high school soccer field, she is entitled to that right," said the president, who acknowledged that "wiping out" the nation's elderly population has always been his No. 1 priority.

more

Wouldn't know a Repube talking point if it bit him on the ass.

#100 | Posted by Corky at 2009-10-07 12:27 PM

Wouldn't know the truth if it bit her in the ass.

"I just tell them the truth, and they think it's hell."

-"Give 'em Hell" Harry Truman

"My standard applies to people who use up every imaginable rightwingnut talking point about health care reform in the first 3 paragraphs, as this opinion "writer" did."

Mr. Moore is the WSJ writer who famously claimed "tax cuts increase revenue", and then went on to use proof which would get him flunked out of an Econ 101 class: he didn't factor for inflation.

I expect that during the next couple of weeks the wingnuts will be pulling out all the stops, they'll be pulling talking points from their asses, they'll be calling Obama and the Democrats Communists and every other thing they can think of. I don't think they will be able to stop reform now because it seems to be picking up momentum and even the blue dogs are getting blasted by their constituents but it is going to be an interesting couple of weeks.
Glenn Beck antics will probably reach new heights of insanity. TV networks will love it because the ratings will be up. Then, it will pass, nothing will be different, life will return to normal and the insurance companies will immediately start gouging us for every penny they can while they still can. Claims denials will reach 99%. People will die and the righties will blame Obama.

Mr. Moore is the WSJ writer who famously claimed "tax cuts increase revenue", and then went on to use proof which would get him flunked out of an Econ 101 class: he didn't factor for inflation.

#104 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-07 01:20 PM |

Aside from that, those comments pasted were not RW talking points Corky was whining about. Saying Harry Reid is in a fight for the Public Option with Unions is a fact. Right, left or other.

Danni's #105 is the most perceptive - and frightening - post in years. herm

The Drudge report has a link to kids singing in favor of Obama and his reform on CNN.. I am gonna get in trouble for this I know, But why does this all look like Some West African Nation who sing for their leader and jump up and down for him no matter how many of their own people he has his goons machete to death. Yes I am tragically caucasian but My fellow country men who just happen to be black sing songs to this guy, make their kids sing songs to this guy..IT IS JUST CREEPY...

Today at the White House Easter Egg Roll, dozens of children "from the stricken Gulf Coast region serenaded First Lady Laura Bush with a song praising the beleaguered Federal Emergency Management Agency." To the tune of "Hey Look Me Over," the kids from Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama sang:

Our country's stood beside us
People have sent us aid.
Katrina could not stop us, our hopes will never fade.
Congress, Bush and FEMA
People across our land
Together have come to rebuild us and we join them hand-in-hand!

Most likely a result of a knee-jerk to the scare tactics used by the far right.
taxman.

I agree, but still think Obama and Pelosi screwed the pooch all summer, unless the game plan was to let the nutjobs prove their nutjobness to the world....

Was that a one time thing?, And was it broadcast on CNN? And I see Bush was SECOND, after congress. So do you assume it is the same thing?

ThinkProgress?..C'mon..What kills me is the more they lose, the more they go after the people they are losing to, Kinda like Olberman..What a pathetic joke

The Communist News Network comes through again:

School Kids Sing For Health Care Reform On Set Of CNN

The Communist News Network comes through again:

School Kids Sing For Health Care Reform On Set Of CNN

Thanks HOPEYCHANGEY those kids are talented, smart and entertaining which... I know you are can't stand.
The kids were great, their message was great, and it showed they are all smarter than HOPEYCHANGEY.

"But why does this all look like Some West African Nation who sing for their leader and jump up and down for him no matter how many of their own people he has his goons machete to death."

HOPEYCHANGEY provided a link, check it out and then tell me with a straight face that HILLBILLYJIHAD isn't a raciest piece of crap.

Danni said, "I know you are can't stand."

Uh ... of course dear. And you are smart, articulate and, well, entertaining too.

Another aspect of this story is how the main stream media works hand in hand to enable this ass clown to ruin this economy for generations to come. From the stimulus pay off debacle to the Chicken Little global warming hysteria to the government takeover of health care -- the increased taxes, fees, transfers, (whatever you want to call them) will be an enormous drag on this economy that will impose misery. And with the ever outstretched hand of government ready to provide more relief at the expense of the productive class, we can all sing on CNN in misery together.

At least 2/3rds of the country has been against the Iraq War, Afghan War, the fucking bailout and in favor of a public option in health care.

...and a large majority in Washington couldn't care less.

"Public option" is just a euphemism for "government run" and those who have an IQ greater than 60 know that once the proverbial foot is in the door with such an "option," it will lead, by design, to a government run health care system.

Care to guess what proportion of the country wants a government run health care system?

Fucking libtards. They won't be honest with us about what the "public option" really means. Such is the same hide the ball dishonesty that is evidenced by the demoncraps refusing to make the bills available to the public before they can be digested. That famous liberal "You can't be trusted to govern yourself - we know what's best for you" mentality.

So much for our dear leader's promised "transparency" in this process.

I can't wait until we simply can no longer be trusted to elect our representatives.

I understand that the vast majority of those polled were democrats. I don't think the issue with the American people is healhcare reform but it is the how and what and the cost.

I think it is clear that anyone can find a poll that is suitable for their particular argument. As an individual already dwelling in a government run health care program (military), I will tell you that if you feel like waiting 30 days or more to get something checked out or going through three different appointments that are spread over months to get a procedure that you and the PCM already know is necessary then be my guest and support overall government ran health care. Obviously alot of what we deal with in the military is a shortage of doctors and or staff, which is what we already deal with in the civilian world (a shortage), so when you add so many new individuals into an already crowded system, the result won't be what you are hoping for, yes everyone will get care, but will the care be timely and of good quality. Solving the shortage would be a nice but that would take years or we could just outsource everything (bring in foreign doctors)or lower standards because we can't just miraculously make people capable of completing medical school.

The link you provided proves you weren't telling the truth, on either of the issues.

Thanks.

#89 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-07 11

fuck you forever more..
you obviously didnt read the paragraph about the bad economy..
more details to follow

But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, under pressure from unions and welfare groups, won't take no for an answer"

Yeah riiiiiight, it's just unions and welfare groups who want the public option and not THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!

#91 | Posted by danni at 2009-10-

and today we find out that reid and dodd and baucas will be doing the AMERICAN PeOPLES business behind closed doors after the favorable comments from the cbo which was obtained with LESS THAN COMPLETE DISCLOSURE On the fucking over that these goddamn democrats are about to unleash.

and sometime after november of 2010, we will be printing this post for your memory.

more BUSINESS of the people from the goddamn democrats

reports are that FOUR OUT OF FIVE doctors....( no its not a toothpaste commercial...were FINANCIAL suppporters of barak hussein obama..
mmmm mmmm mmm

ah but IM sure that means nothing for the other side..not when they can fuck america like they are about to do this time..

Only in the headlines:

"Unbelievable Media Lie of the Day-- Today's Bad Obamacare Polling Data Spun As Good News for Obama"

The headline:
"Voters Back Obama Over Republicans on Health Care, Poll Finds"

The meat and potatoes:
"47% of Americans oppose Obamacare and only 40% approve of Obamacare in the poll"

Are there really STILL Americans slashing their own throats by fighting health care reforms? Public option has a clear majority among all genders, age groups and political parties. herm

Public option has a clear majority among all genders, age groups and political parties. herm

#125 | Posted by herm at 2009-10-08 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag: Wrong as usual.

Are there STILL human beings that would kill their own helpless offspring?

My healthcare is just fine btw - as is 85% of the country's.