Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Monday, October 05, 2009

David Brooks: Over the years, I have asked many politicians what happens when Limbaugh and his colleagues attack. The story is always the same. Hundreds of calls come in. The receptionists are miserable. But the numbers back home do not move. There is no effect on the favorability rating or the re-election prospects. In the media world, he is a giant. In the real world, he's not.

Liberal Blog Advertising Network

Menu

Subscriptions

Author Info

woke

MORE STORIES

Special Features

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in the discussion of this weblog entry should note the site's moderation policy.

This article points out what every sensible person knows. It's only the paranoid that are threatened by talk radio and blame their failures on them.

Yet, every day here on DR, I read a plethora of right wing posters who regurgitate the very same bullshit talking points that these hate jocks spew, while claiming they are representative of the only true Americans and the neocon repugs will rise again....

LOL

Why is that mysterytoy?

Why is that mysterytoy?

You got me there. I have no clue.

Then maybe you should begin to question those people who do so, in the name of logic and discussion?

Clean this site up of the rw trolleyboys who infest it and make discussion/debate nearly impossible here, eh?

Wow, Americunty used to whine constantly about the same things.
He was a liar, a serial poster, and a laughing stock too...

the column in question is about as silly as posts from the noted poster 'woke'..

as in ..a crock of shit...

there is some alternative..once AGAIN....on cnn...yesterday morning was carville and maitlan.
what a great few mins of political tv and on cnn at that..

carvile called beck all sorts of names and she stared a hole through his bald cobra head...you could almost feel the fumes through the tv...

but this article by brooks is simply this months obligaation to the fuckin times. he is required to say something bad about conservatives once a month or he loses his coffee priviledges.

AND Of course he made no mentiont of the LIES from the white house about beck cocerning them calling beck a liar and using LIES to do it...
only politicians and "SOME" people here will even try and get away with that

Clean this site up of the rw trolleyboys who infest it and make discussion/debate nearly impossible here, eh?

says the guy who has been here a whopping 6 weeks.

Any other suggestions newbie???

Well if they have no power then stop worrying about what they are saying. I don't see kids singing about Beck or Limbaugh so I don't see any threat from them

Ohh, apparently I hit a nerve posting a real republican pov on here, eh? LOL

And all the lil stalkers come crawling out from under their troll bridges....LOL

Being a newbie to DR, doesn't mean newbie to posting or newbie in life sonnyboy......

Aw, so sorry to OUT you boys as dupes, who listen and believe every tp that emanates from rush addict and your unkkkle kkkarl's "truthcave"......

i'm guessing kkkarl has a hand in writing crybaby becky's bullshit, eh?

LOL

What would corporate shills be without dupes to lap it up.....keep on lapping boys....how's that taste?

Clean this site up of the rw trolleyboys who infest it and make discussion/debate nearly impossible here, eh?

#4 | Posted by woke

Damn, are you a punching-bag or what?

You make *gRoper* seem...'insightful' by comparison.

This site has its faults; but it is FAR from an echo-chamber for the left.

What you REALLY have working against you W(J)oke is that an awful lot of righties have earned more respect among the indiginous lefty population than you could ever hope.

What is truly pathetic is your inherent belief that you can actually sway inherent skeptics, such as defines more than a few lefties on this site, to your "side" based solely upon ideological hatred.

Your tack is more condescending than you realize.

You are actually appealing to thinking-individuals to tarnish another SOLELY upon the basis of disagreement without ANY substance other than that if said person disagrees with you on a given issue then they MUST be evil.

This site has its faults, but such a tack has been a consistent failure - most Drudgies tend to get pissed at ultimatums which pieon-hole them into 1 'camp' or 'another'.

AFK

Why not start your own thread to support crybaby becky and his vicks, sonny....if you can find a credible source to your contentions....

LOL

But the numbers back home do not move. There is no effect on the favorability rating or the re-election prospects. In the media world, he is a giant. In the real world, he's not.

and yet "dupes" like Woke post articles illustrating their obsession with limbaugh and Beck ad nauseum here. LOL

Why the 180 spin on this? If they really have no impact then why the obsession with them?

Why even post an article about their irrelevance when I hear 24/7 here about how much misinformation they put out and how it hurts progress in this country?

Get your extreme leftist wacko positions to line up for once.

LOL

What is truly pathetic is your inherent belief that you can actually sway inherent skeptics, such as defines more than a few lefties on this site, to your "side" based solely upon ideological hatred.

I know it sounds crazy Jeff but it's the only arrow Woke has in his pathetic quiver.

Why not start your own thread to support crybaby becky and his vicks, sonny....

what for? just because you do the same just to cry about them?

In any case, posting an editorial that you agree with is hardly a "credible source".

What you REALLY have working against you W(J)oke is that an awful lot of righties have earned more respect among the indiginous lefty population than you could ever hope.

#11 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2009-10-05 10:55 AM

Uh, where in my posts did i say this is a "far left" echo chamber?
I can always tell who listens to the corporate shills because they all use the term "far left", though nothing of the far left gets on tv/radio at all. Ever see Mother Jones or AlterNet on corporate media? Anyone who dares even question the FAR RIGHT extremism of the failed neocon policies are dubbed FAR LEFT by these shills....and then dupes like yourself repeat it as a bludgeon against anyone trying to post some reasonableness, like Brooks.

1. You might want to consider who is posting reasonable comments from a republican on this thread and who are merely attacking the messenger (the stalking trollboys)

2. You might also want to consider the actual point Brooks is making, that these same dupes who repeat these shills neocon talking points here on dr are not representative of anything more than an extremist fringe who are being goosed on daily by rush, beck, o'lielly, et al.

3. Then, go back a look at the majority totals for the last election, as well as the others since o'lielly/beck/dobbs began spewing their bs....as Brooks points out....

EBERLY

November 8, 2008

I'm not crying, nor using vicks to make myself cry.

I posted a REPUBLICAN moderate point of view.

See how it was met with ad hominem personal attacks from several posters including yourself?

What part of the political spectrum do you consider yourself to be on?
How does your posts here, railing against my Brooks post, relate to that position?

Are you part of the problem or solution?

Find common ground and work from the center son....

Unless, US success isn't your goal, eh?

If not, feel free to continue to piss into the wind along with the other duped trolleyboys.....

Of course, perhaps some are not duped, but paid to divert and infest DR?

eh?

Why not start your own thread to support crybaby becky and his vicks, sonny....if you can find a credible source to your contentions....

LOL

#12 | Posted by woke at

dont have to bud

just follow you around and give the "REST OF THE STORY' lol

BUT WAIT|

TWO MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENTS from the afkabl2 news wires

NEWS AT 11..........

and yet "dupes" like Woke post articles illustrating their obsession with limbaugh and Beck ad nauseum here. LOL

Get your extreme leftist wacko positions to line up for once.
LOL

#13 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2009-10-05 11:00 AM

Uh, gee EBERLY how can I be posting a reasonable, moderate REPUBLICAN pov and be an "extremist leftist wacko" too?

Which is it? Moderate republican or extremist far left wacko?

Look up the phrase ad hominem, and try to realize it's not a valid, credible way to discuss issues.

just follow you around and give the "REST OF THE STORY' lol

#18 | POSTED BY AFKABL2 AT 2009-10-05 11:10 AM

Yes, since i began posting here just a few weeks ago, I have an entire group of trolleyboy stalkers who follow me around posting personal ad hominem attacks, never bothering to ever address any of the credible, sourced info I post.....and this thread is pretty representative of that truth.

Beck and Limbaugh depend on stupidity, which constitute 51% of the country, many whom vote, picket and carry guns to Democratic events and abortion clinics. These crazed true believers have attacked Abortion Clinics, the Oklahoma City Federal Building and Obama's White House.

Assassins have a powerful effect on history. Sometimes they even serve the common good, like when they tried to take out Hitler.

Beck and Limbaugh are insiting violence with an endless barrage of half truths and damned lies.

Uh, gee EBERLY how can I be posting a reasonable, moderate REPUBLICAN pov and be an "extremist leftist wacko" too?

good question, but extreme leftist wackos (like yourself) enjoy the privelge of posting anybody if they say something you agree with.

There have been plenty of right wingers hated by extremists like yourself who have said something that you agree with and it gets posted here.

And just like you, the weak pathetic attempt gets made to distance yourself from the "extreme left wing wacko" trade name you so deserve.

oh please..
ever hear of a sense of humor...of course we all know that all the studies say that your side isnt as happy as our side is....giggle giggle

and even lyndsay graham got in on the dump on beck train...
so what??

the only reaction those and leftists here have when they read that he had TWO BESTSELLERS aT ONCE are typical of the palin book thing...

you just cant stand that this country is as conservative as it is..the left thinks that EVERYBODY should hate it as much as the left does.

AND AGAIN

TWO MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT I Know most of you just CANT wait until 11 for

but you will have to....

They really don't. If you take Rush's 20 million weekly listeners and break it down to a per market/ per day, you find he really only reaches about 5000 people per market. Then consider most of them really only listen for about 30minutes to an hour and then at least 30% of them are the opposition who are monitoring them and not listening and you really don't have that big of a following.

What part of the political spectrum do you consider yourself to be on?
How does your posts here, railing against my Brooks post, relate to that position?

I'm definately conservative. what "railing" are you talking about? I simply pointed out that either you believe those guys are irrelevant or you don't.

which is it? and this question is being posed to all lefties who pronounce their hatred of right wing pundits like limbaugh and beck.

I have an entire group of trolleyboy stalkers who follow me around posting personal ad hominem attacks, never bothering to ever address any of the credible, sourced info I post..

Geez....cry us a river Woke. that will help you out a lot here.

:-(

They really don't. If you take Rush's 20 million weekly listeners and break it down to a per market/ per day, you find he really only reaches about 5000 people per market. Then consider most of them really only listen for about 30minutes to an hour and then at least 30% of them are the opposition who are monitoring them and not listening and you really don't have that big of a following.

#26 | Posted by kanrei at

OH PLEASE>>...

did you REALLY post this??

I understand what a problem guys have when it comes to the size of thier penis but saying even your assesment of his audience isnt that big of a following...well thats like that mirror in my bedroom on the cieling that says that
OBJECTS ARE MUCH BIGGER THEN THEY MAY APPEAR>.

lol

and of course the question is IF not already asked

WHY then is the leftists so DEATHFULLY AFRAID of them that they are doing what they can TO SILENCE them and wont even talk to them or debate them..

on orielly..and the others...leftists have standing invitations to come on thier shows and they REFUSE>........
why is that kanny...AUDINECE TOO SMALL>....LOL

AFK,
It is simple logic using their own numbers. 20 Million weekly listeners is 4 million per day. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY SPECIFY WEEKLY? Now break that down by the 900 markets Rush broadcasts to. Now figure out how many cities are covered by each? 610 down here goes from Homestead to West Palm Beach for example.

I know my post takes understanding to follow, so ask a librarian to help you.

Yet, every day here on DR, I read a plethora of right wing posters who regurgitate the very same bullshit talking points that these hate jocks spew, while claiming they are representative of the only true Americans and the neocon repugs will rise again....

LOL

And every day here at DR there is a larger plethora of lefties pissing and moaning over those same radio hosts, and regurgitating the moveon.org and huffington post talking points just like good little liberals, spoon-fed their ideas and thoughts just like Pelosi, Reed, and Obama wants.

No LOL, just a shake of the head for those too stupid to think for themselves.

sonnyboy......

#10 | Posted by woke at 2009-10-05 10:54 AM | Flag: OLDER THAN FUCK

To paraphrase 101, you have one foot in the grave, and the other on a banana peel.

I know my post takes understanding to follow, so ask a librarian to help you.

#31 | Posted by kanrei at 2009

face it BRO

your attempt at minimizing the rush audience just doesnt cut it...
its okay.......try and find air america these days...lol

NOT THATS A small audience

Woke AKA Buffalo Bob

BROOKS: Limbaugh, Beck Have No Real Power - Yet We Feel Compelled To Create Headlines About Them Whenever We Get the Chance... and Should Probably Toss A Palin In the Next One Too!

Who cares... that's the point of an "On/Off" button - you can choose whether or not to listen to the radio.

...That is unless these fellas have a listening base that CAN effect listeners. But then we'd have to silence commercials too wouldn't we? Then what in the world would we know what to buy??? My goodness!

oh please..
ever hear of a sense of humor..

#24 | POSTED BY AFKABL2 AT 2009-10-05 11:26 AM

Personally, I don't find thousands of US troops dying for lies told, 30k plus suffering WIA, and a couple hundred thousand returning with PTSD a big fkn joke, nor is the 2 TRILLION and counting from iraqnam that all these big, macho, chickenhawk war supporter shills support, and that was NEVER placed in ANY of lilaWol's budget figures anything to sneeze at either, eh? NOW, that a dem is potus tho, those deficits sure look bigger, eh?

But to each their own, eh AFK?

your attempt at minimizing the rush audience just doesnt cut it...
its okay.......try and find air america these days...lol
NOT THATS A small audience

#34 | POSTED BY AFKABL2 AT 2009-10-05 12:05 PM

No need, I believe, as brooks rightly points out that the elections since 94 ALL prove the tiny minority who listen and BELIEVE the misinformation, lies, namecalling and insults that emanate from rush addict and unkkkle kkkarl's "truthcave"....

November 8,2008 is what MINIMIZES them

And to your other point, perhaps, just perhaps, think about it, the better educated left can google up their own credible sources, read, comprehend truth and have no need of corporate shills TELLING them what to think, eh?

But, as I said, to each their own......position yourself closer to the "truthcave" to get a better whiff of their bullshit, buddy.

the point of an "On/Off" button - you can choose whether or not to listen to the radio.

#36 | POSTED BY R0B0T AT 2009-10-05 12:23 PM

A point well taken, and that goes for corporate news on tv also.

However, you are dodging one issue there, I believe.

ALL the corporate owned media in the usa is operated by the exact same giant, global war/oil/healthcare/pharma profiteers and nothing could be clearer than that, when the ONE media giant labled the most left by the shills.......is owned by America's largest WAR PROFITEERING corporation, GE.

Keep thinking they are lefty, just because they realize most (a majority) of Americans are not so easily swayed by the rushaddict's crybaby becks, and bully o'lielly's of the world...

time you woke too

"time you woke too"

I am sure you will have many people here wanting to hitch their wagon to your star. But then again, even a blind squirrel finds a nut. Or woke in this case.

This is the Thread where the Regular WingDings come out in a Force Dejoure to lecture us all on how the Rhetoric of some MSM Personalities means little and what they say is of little consequence while simultaneously declaring the rest of the MSN universe is controlling our minds!

It's similar to how they excuse what hannity/limbiough/beck/boortz spew on a daily basis to millions of brain dead deadbeats as simply "entertainment" and of little consequence ---- but Obama speaking to the nation's public schools is "indoctrination"!

#41...
Woke,
Looks like you have one hitched. The blind squirrel theory...

rush and obama love the sound of their own voices and can talk on and on for hours.

cripee

some info and advice for you

I post in honor of the hundreds of thousands of war veterans who've died and been maimed in unnecessary invasions/occupations based on lies/misinformation from neocons who shill for giant global war/oil profiteers...from vietnam to iraqnam, .......not my own glory.

If you cannot actually post anything on topic to the thread, nor to debunk anything I've posted, why make yourself look so silly as to merely post a personal attack on me?

Now, why do you post? If you think I post for some nebulous glory, perhaps that is because it is your own motivation, eh?

One would think Mr. Brooks, who's article speaks to the 2008 election, would have put that election in the Overall context.

Historically American elections have had winning and losing fairly evenly split, since the control of elections by these 2 parties. It swings back and forth.

Sure one party might dominant for a number of terms, but by and large these 2 parties control results historically.

Mr. Brooks is either naive or he's just speaking to the choir who are.

"This site has its faults; but it is FAR from an echo-chamber for the left.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ"

JeffJ is right. This site is much more than an echo-chamber for the left. For instance, funny things are posted sometimes, like this:

"Is it just me, or is that woman's butt ensconced in a pair of jeans pure artwork (look at the ad at the top of this thread)?
That shit is borderline masterpiece.
If I were wedded to her my hands would be glued to that shit.
#17 | Posted by JeffJ"

"I'm not so sure that's a woman, Jeff.
#20 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine"

"Did I just get turned on by a dude's ass?
#25 | Posted by JeffJ"

"Holy shit!
#26 | Posted by JeffJ"

LMBO Monte!!

I'll never stop laughing at that one!

These angry talkers like Limbaugh and Beck don't need to effect huge percentages of the population to cause great harm, it only takes one nut with a gun to listen to them and then figure it's his duty to take his country back.

If you cannot actually post anything on topic to the thread, nor to debunk anything I've posted, why make yourself look so silly as to merely post a personal attack on me?

Now, why do you post? If you think I post for some nebulous glory, perhaps that is because it is your own motivation, eh?

#44 | Posted by woke at 2009-10-05 01:14 PM |

I thought you would be happy Redneckville hitched his wagon to your star. What are you sniveling about?

I like the debunking anything you posted line... Nothing you post can be debunked. How does one debunk a wharped opinion?

I have no motivation here Woke. I do enjoy the laughs though when you are dumb enough to post. Not so much yours, but the retorts by others controlling your strings.

I post in honor of the hundreds of thousands of war veterans who've died and been maimed in unnecessary invasions/occupations based on lies/misinformation from neocons who shill for giant global war/oil profiteers...from vietnam to iraqnam, .......not my own glory.

#44 | Posted by woke at 2009-10-05 01:14 PM

Maybe you should follow that creed and actually post something intelligent or at least honoring to these heros you speak for. Prove me wrong sometime.

"I'll never stop laughing at that one!
#47 | Posted by Lisa"

Me too, Lisa. And I may not ever stop posting it either, at least until Jeff spills the beans on the sipping whiskey he suggested once but has never repeated. Jeff, the ball is in your court.

These angry talkers like Limbaugh and Beck don't need to effect huge percentages of the population to cause great harm, it only takes one nut with a gun to listen to them and then figure it's his duty to take his country back.

#48 | Posted by danni


Are you serious? Yeah, it only takes a couple of kids to start a fire cause they saw it on Bevis & Butthead. I would think the Daily Show would piss 'em (those right-ringers) off more than Limbaugh or Beck! Why not get that crap off the air instead! That'd be big fun, huh? Better yet, lets only have stuff in the world we all agree with as to protect ourselves from ourselves. Again, there is an off/on, tuner, and volume knob/button for a reason. I could see eliminating programming if we were forced to watch/listen to stuff, but we're not.

"News" isn't supposed to have a personality. Real life is boorrring. Networks have always been trying to make it profitable, not necessarily in the "lets sell an agenda" sort of manner, but definitely more entertaining so we'd at least last through the commercials. I mean, who would've thought there'd ever be "news" on Comedy Central? I wonder how long before Space Ghost returns to deliver the 6 o'clock. The fact that news (especially political news) successfully mixes so well with comedy isn't a good sign if you ask me.

Unfortunately, it does appear an agenda IS being sold to us through the news. It could be some marketing strategist's fault for going too far in recognizing the appeal America has for being PC over being real or noticing people pay attention to fearful news ...or an outright "our network was sold to the highest bidder" or the owner leans that way. Doesn't matter, it's all a big pile of junk now and not worth sifting through to find a crumb of something cr-edible. So much for being the people's "checks and balances".

Neither Limbaugh, nor Beck, nor Stewart, nor Beavis & Butthead are NEWS programs. The former are personality/op-ed talk shows, the latter are satire/comedy. If you ever thought these groups blurred the lines, it's not a good sign for you.

Having said that, Limbaugh and Beck are just as funny to me as Stewart and B&B, but for different reasons. I get what they're saying, but I laugh AT them. The seriousness with which they take themselves is absolutely priceless. Widdo biddy Wush and widdo biddy Gwen. Ooooooh! They're so cute! They're like kittens.

Their utterly complete and earnest commitment to sell you ideas they themselves have never believed in and trinkets they'd never buy is so precious, so utterly snake-oil, so classicly right-wing cliche, they should be broadcasting from the Smithsonian. They're American treasures in the truest sense!

Hat's off to Wush and Gwen!!

I respect conservatives like David Brooks and Micheal Murphy, to name a couple. They have their views and respectfully express them without rancor. If the GOP had more like them they'd stand a chance to govern again, but as things stand the GOP largely act like a bunch of 13 year olds.

Brooks is wrong, as usual.

If limbaugh has no power, why do most of the republican politicians apologize to him for any perceived slight?

If beck has no power, why does every tea bagger moron on tv thank glenn beck for their "education"?

I think brooks has confused power for legislative ability. Beck and Limbaugh can't make bills because they aren't legislators...but to say they have no power is ridiculous.

Even in this barely heard of blog on the fringes of the intertubes their lies are regurgitated word for word by idiots like AFKABL2.

MASSAI

Brooks is a well known conservative, but not a lock step neocon.

If one bothers to read the actual op-ed (not sure who decimated/edited my original post?).....you can see brooks doesn't JUST speak to the last election but every election since 94......AND no more partisanship for/against the right than the left.....imo.

Also, that Contract ON American congress, that lasted til 06, 12 years was the first for 40 years. Considering they made our own potus their enemy, ignored terrorism until 911, ignored illegal immigration, rubberstamped an unnecessary invasion/occupation, allowed a runaway executive branch, and allowed energy, banking, healthcare, oil and war corporations to call all the shots, it may well be another 40 years before anyone trusts them again.

My guess is that the ONLY path back to power for republicans is to purge their party of the remaining FAILED neocon influence, actually fullfill the idea of representing WORKING Americans instead of the richest 1% and giant global corps and banking and stop with the hate, division, and extreme partisanship-placing politics over country.

>>

But this is not merely a story of weakness. It is a story of resilience. For no matter how often their hollowness is exposed, the jocks still reweave the myth of their own power. They still ride the airwaves, claiming to speak for millions. They still confuse listeners with voters. And they are enabled by cynical Democrats, who love to claim that Rush Limbaugh controls the GOP. They are enabled by lazy pundits who find it easier to argue with showmen than with people whose opinions are based on knowledge. They are enabled by the slightly educated snobs who believe that Glenn Beck really is the voice of Middle America.

So the myth returns. Just months after the election and the humiliation, everyone is again convinced that Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and the rest possess real power. And the saddest thing is that even Republican politicians come to believe it. They mistake media for reality. They pre-emptively surrender to armies that don't exist.

They pay more attention to Rush's imaginary millions than to the real voters down the street. The Republican Party is unpopular because it's more interested in pleasing Rush's ghosts than actual people. The party is leaderless right now because nobody has the guts to step outside the rigid parameters enforced by the radio jocks and create a new party identity. The party is losing because it has adopted a radio entertainer's niche-building strategy, while abandoning the politician's coalition-building strategy.

The rise of Beck, Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and the rest has correlated almost perfectly with the decline of the GOP. But it's not because the talk jocks have real power. It's because they have illusory power, because Republicans hear the media mythology and fall for it every time.

David Brooks writes for The New York Times.

www.dispatch.com

Well if they have no power then stop worrying about what they are saying. I don't see kids singing about Beck or Limbaugh so I don't see any threat from them

#9 | Posted by bph320 at 2009-10-05 10:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

Did you see a threat from Bush when kids in NOLA sang his praises and used his name in a song?

Either way, if that's your 'threat' criteria, you have much bigger issues.

I understand what a problem guys have when it comes to the size of thier penis but saying even your assesment of his audience isnt that big of a following...well thats like that mirror in my bedroom on the cieling that says that
OBJECTS ARE MUCH BIGGER THEN THEY MAY APPEAR>.

lol

#29 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-10-05 11:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

Flutey-Toots,

You've told us that you're a flute teacher by trade. Just had no idea it was 'skin flute' you meant.

It's only the paranoid that are threatened by Katie Couric/Letterman/SNL and blame their failures on them.

Sorry, unable to decipher your post northguy3

Wanna try again?

Rephrase?

Comments are closed for this entry.


Drudge Retort

Home | News | Comments | User Blogs | Nooner | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Copyright 2012 World Readable