Really? You think that if you call 'WOLF' too many times the people will stop believing you?? Go figure.

When there's nothing left in your verbal arsenal to save your drowning, weak-and-getting-weaker Glorious Leader, you've got to grasp at whatever floats. The mileage has run out on that old chestnut. Ask Jimmah, who's now backtracking on his asinine comments.

"Extremist policies...."

Not racist, merely silly.

"Weak and getting weaker Glorious Leader..."

1) I don't know anyone who has a "Glorious Leader".

2) You would have to have been very brave or quite insane to want the presidency going into it as bequeathed by Bush the Lame.

Or course numbers were going to fall. Too many people needing to many things immediately. And yes, truth be known, a fair share of racists.

The right is scared shitless of Barrack Obama.

The right is scared shitless of Barrack Obama.

#5 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-10-04 10:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe a year ago, for some

The Messiah has no clothes

The Messiah has no clothes
#6 | Posted by vernon at 2009-10-04 11:05 AM | Reply | Flag: Says The Stalking Booze Hound Whose Style Model Is Pinky Lee

To the tens of millions of people who voted for Obama simply because he's black, it reduces that anyone who opposes him must do so on the same basis.

Personally, I love it. Keep it up, Obamites.

Keep it up, Obamites.

#8 | Posted by rightisright at

I've read here at least a dozen times that when the other side says they want more it means they are skeered. The right is scared shitless of Barrack Obama.

The Messiah has no clothes

#6 | Posted by vernon at

I read here that Rush did an interview with an actress on Fox News, in it he said that when the other side keeps bringing a person up it means they are scared of them. The right, and Vernon, is scared shitless of Barrack Obama.

Uh huh. And, of course, we're scared of him because he's black. Or haven't you heard?

You're scared, scared shitless in fact, of him for more reasons than that.

"We're scared of him because he's Black..."

I'm reminded of sitting up late way down South with the elders watching an old B&W movie about 19th Century Boers.

When the Zulus attacked the wagon train the elders shat their pants. Their reaction to the image was so dramatic it shocked me.

Many of these people remain alive and continue to vote.

No. I'm not scared because he's hopelessly naive on foreign policy, or because he's willing to borrow trillions of dollars from the Chinese to keep Wall Street bankers happy, or that he thinks he can annex one sixth of our economy and pretend that he will simultaneously reduce costs AND expand coverage.

Nope. It's all because he's black. After all, why should anyone have problems with the guy otherwise?

The refuge of the racist is to say the charges of racism directed at them are "tired" and "worthless" and even "out of style".

Republicans and right-wingers truly have no interest in making their country better. They want failure.

And when it comes they will have their stuff off-shore where servants are still available for $5 a day.

The Republican Party should be renamed the Hypocrisy Party.

Every self-respecting "liberal" Republican has now left the party, and it's high time a few more "moderates" did, as there is nothing there for them, and they try not to be hypocrites.

Hypocritublican Party is the new name

Good, Sitdown. Good.

No, I enjoy the charges of racism. They're funny. Keep 'em coming!

Hypocritublican Party is the new name

#16 | Posted by sitdown

And-instead of an Elephant-their new symbol is a

Hyppopotamus-speaks out of both sides of his mouth at once, also speaks out of his ass-on a regular basis.
Has a tendency to lie to make himself look good-and others to look bad.

I have to give RIR some credit here. IMO opinion, his complaints about Obama do not come off as racist necessarily. But you certainly can't say that about a great deal of right complaints, at least in the way they are expressed lately. Maybe RIR just has more self control than the average Republican these days, I don't know. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I agree with the author and #14 RIR... and have said as much in prior threads.

If the left can marginalize the right by labeling the opposition as racist, they'll do it. They tried to marginalize those who'd disagree with Cindy Sheehan, Michael Fox, etc, as well.

They tried to marginalize those who'd disagree with Cindy Sheehan...
#20 | Posted by OohRah

These days they marginalize those who agree with Cindy Sheehan. I guess its reason for you to be happy.

The right is scared shitless of Barrack Obama.

I am too. I fear a clueless guy in the White House as much as I fear an 8 year old behind the wheel of Hummer on the interstate.

#22 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-04 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag: Loves using '8 year old' and 'hummer' in the same sentence.

Hardly, HAG.

The left attempted to brush off criticism of Sheehan as a PERSONAL attack against her, which is purposefully missing the point. Does she get a free pass on her views due to her condition (mother of dead soldier)?

Same for Michael J. Fox. Does he get a free pass on his views due to his condition?

I'm interested in your serious discussion of the topic or serious discussion from others, left or right.

#23 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-10-04 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag: Loves fantasizing about oil rig workers using hummer and 8 year old in the same sentence

IMO opinion, his complaints about Obama do not come off as racist necessarily.

#19 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine
* * * *

"Necessarily". I guess that's called "damning with faint praise."

Fair enough Celine. And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that your support of Obama isn't just because he's black, and that you voted for him out of White Guilt.

"Fair enough Celine. And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that your support of Obama isn't just because he's black, and that you voted for him out of White Guilt."

Hahahahahaha.

"The left attempted to brush off criticism of Sheehan as a PERSONAL attack against her, which is purposefully missing the point. Does she get a free pass on her views due to her condition (mother of dead soldier)?"

You're partly right there, but that was a couple of years ago. These days she is treated as ridiculous by Democrats. These days I'm treated as ridiculous by Democrats... at least the Democrats who post here, in part for coming from the same place that Cindy Sheehan does ideologically. But with respect to me at least, that's nothing new.

"Same for Michael J. Fox. Does he get a free pass on his views due to his condition?"

In all honesty, I don't remember how the MJF issue played out, but to answer your question in a word, no. THat doesn't mean that one aughtn't have any obligation to address his views with a great deal of civility because of his condition.

Your situation is a similar one. Your son is serving in theater, right? IMO challenging your opinions does, should, be done with a great deal of respect again, because of your situation.

Fair enough Celine. And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that your support of Obama isn't just because he's black, and that you voted for him out of White Guilt.

#26 | Posted by rightisright

LOL. I didn't vote for Obama. To a large extent my support of anything he does is similar to my defense of Corky's support of Clinton during the primaries, i.e. that I believed that criticism of Corky and her was over the top and/or logically inconsistent.

Sometimes I'm stuck feeling like the only thing I like about Obama is the color of his skin.

I'm not happy about that, ftr.

Goatman

Obama didn't disregard the advice of his Army Chief of Staff and send far too few into a war that was FUBAR as a result, did he? He didn't hide the severity of the problems looming in the financial sector for months with a one page plan to deal with it, did he?

Obama's inherited a huge mess all the doing of the previous administration.

Take Afghanistan, for instance. Had Bush concentrated on fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan we wouldn't be in that mess either, would we? He had offers of troops from everywhere in the world including the Middle East. Afghanistan would have been a lot further along the road to success instead of having lost ground to the Taliban for 7 consecutive years.

I don't get blaming the paramedic instead of the drunk who crashed the car.

#30. I pretty much agree with all you said. I'm not sure why you directed it to me, but that's cool.

"Obama's inherited a huge mess all the doing of the previous administration."

I think Dear Leader's halo is starting to slip and the ol' "Bush's fault" excuse is wearing thin.

"If Mr. Obama and the White House made a mistake, it was in their apparently boundless faith that somehow Mr. Obama's personal popularity would carry the day. As if, merely by seeing the rock star in person, the delegate from, say, Egypt would abandon his simmering dislike for America, forget all the dinners and deals cut with the Rio Committee, and reward Chicago. In that sense, the Olympic defeat is a relatively painless reminder that interests trump charm or likability in world affairs. Better to relearn this lesson in a fight over a sporting event than over nuclear missiles.

Oh, and one more silver lining: This is one decision Mr. Obama can't blame on George W. Bush, though no doubt at MSNBC they will try."

I guess that's called "damning with faint praise."

I only did that because, while I do not think that you or your criticism of the President is racist, I can't rule it out. I don't know whats in your heart, only what you post. Call it a hedge.

HAG-
Yes, he's in Afghanistan. That said, my opinions are no more valid than yours... and my attempt to gain more credibility BECAUSE of my son is improper and for my supporters to discredit you due to his service - that would also be wrong.

True, you might choose to be more diplomatic with me... at least until I start really mouthing off, I suppose. And my personal experiences might give me perhaps more/different insight... but that doesn't necessarily make me RIGHT and you WRONG.

But I'm talking about the interference the left ran for Sheehan and Fox based on their situation, not the merits of their position.

Attack Sheehan's or Fox's agenda - we're labeled as piling on a grieving mother/cripple. It's a very effective strategy, actually... when carefully used.

And that leads back to the thread's main topic... is there a time when all these cries of "racism" backfire on those who make the claim? And then, when real cases of racism appear, we've been conditioned to ignore such cries... well, I guess that's inevitable.

Lately the Connies (TM) have been accusing Democrats of being 'rascist'. How funny is that?!

Goatman

In reply to #22

In reply to #22

You kind of drifted away from my post. I cited a general fear of Obama and you went off with a Bush's war theme. That's why I was confused.

Goatman

Hard to figure out what you're 'fearing'. In comparison to the last President I'd think you'd be supportive of any and all efforts to extricate ourselves from the plethora of messes President Obama inherited.

When FDR was faced with the Great Depression he tried many things, some successful and some not.

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself" - FDR

PS Goatman

I also mentioned the financial crisis the WH knew was happening for months yet did nothing about until the shit hit the fan. Even then, they had a ONE PAGE PLAN to deal with it. Another administration like THAT I might fear. This one, hardly so. Too bad they got handed so many FUBAR situations. Don't expect immediate results to problems years in the making.

Hard to figure out what you're 'fearing'.

My biggest fear is his ontinued deficit spending. That's going to come back and bite us in the butt in the future -- maybe a year, maybe as many as 4.

In comparison to the last President I'd think you'd be supportive of any and all efforts to extricate ourselves from the plethora of messes President Obama inherited.

Following a bad administration does not mean that "any and all efforts" are necessarily good. That is insane logic.

That's like saying if I had bought a bad Ford, Yugo I bought next has to be better. Very, very illogical.

"My biggest fear is his continued deficit spending."

Well, with hundreds of billions a year just to pay the interest on the national debt, a trillion dollar war, a trillion dollar Medicare Part D, trillion dollar TARP, et al don't expect the deficit to go away anytime soon.
To blame Obama for deficits is like blaming the ex husband who was saddled with his wife's maxed out credit card debt.

Lest you forget a couple salient facts:

- Clinton left surpluses and a plan to pay off the entire national debt THIS year

- It was the GOP who increased the size of the federal budget by 50% in a few short years all by their lonesomes ...

Oh, and cut taxes in a time of war. Twice.

Dick Cheney said "Reagan proved deficits don't matter" and fought for a 2nd round of tax cuts.

In what scenario can you both cut income and raise spending and not expect to get in a hell of a bind?

None of this is Obama's doing. Our deficits will be the doing of the GOP Congress and the tax-cut-for-the-rich happy Bush WH, who also created multitrillion dollar liabilities we'll have to pay the tab on for generations now.

Once more, Clinton left surpluses and a plan to completely pay OFF the national debt THIS year. I would think someone of your intelligence wouldn't make the kind of assertions about deficits you do in light of widely known facts surrounding how and whom created this mess.

Three posts from you, timex, and you just can't move okut of the past.

Yes. I know Obama inherited a piece of crap. Can we move on now? Just because he was dealt a shitty hand is no reason to throw away the single Ace he has. Deficit spending (yes, before you say it I know bush did it too. Move on) is no way out of this mess. It doesn't matter how we got here, but continuing on the same course will not get us out.

If your objective is to place blame and play the blame game forever, keep bringing up Bush. If your objective is to fix the problems of the country, leave the past behind and look forward.

What is your objective?

Well, the past is why we are where we are, isn't it?

You're fearing 'deficits' Obama didn't create and that needn't have ever been. Any reasonable adult armed with a few simple facts knows that.

I'm done talking about this with you. You have your blinders on. Have a good day.

Well, the past is why we are where we are, isn't it?

???

Yes. And you think that continued deficit spending (which you freely admit got us here) is the way to fix the problem?

I don't get it.

You're fearing 'deficits' Obama didn't create and that needn't have ever been.

I fear any defict. I don't care who created it.

I'm done talking about this with you. You have your blinders on. Have a good day.

???

I guess if I have blinders on they are to keep me from looking backwards and instead focus on what is in front of me. Maybe you should put some on, too. More accurately, maybe you should take the ones you are wearing and turn them around 180 degrees and look forward instead of backwards.

The blame game gets us no where. We cannot change the past, timex, but we can change the future. I'm sorry that you find my philosophy distressing, but I feel it is the correct thing to do.

If you think I'm wrong, I'd be all ears as you tell me what is the positive outcome of the blame game?

We'll have deficits for as long as the 2 tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans stand, the economy is in the tank and tax revenues down, we're paying for all the trillion dollar commitments Bush and Co got us into.

"Reagan proved deficits don't matter. We won the midterms. This is our due" - Dick Cheney

Our 'due'? Fuck Dick Cheney. You want to blame someone for future deficits look behind you to those who ran up the national credit card by trillions while decreasing revenues.

BTW, Cheney was behind firing Paul O'Neill, who, as it turns out, was RIGHT about everything ... including the fact we'd run up the national debt a country mile by cutting taxes while going to war. So, they fired him and committed us for another several trillion in unfunded liabilities.

Now, with the economy in the tank tax revenues are down.

Any logical person would only blame those who got us into this huge financial mess to begin with when they knew well we could have been debt free.

The 'logic' the right wing uses is exactly why most Americans consider them lunatics unworthy of governing.

I see timex didn't like my suggestion to turn the blinders around and look towards the future instead of the past.

Oh well, it is intellectually easier to play the blame game than to look forward and move on.

The right is 100% scared shitless of Obama, their complaints only show how effective he is. They have to destroy and discredit him because they're scared, it shows more and more with every post.

...their complaints only show how effective he is.

Using that logic, Bush will be on Mount Rushmore next week.

"Bush will be on Mt. Rushmore next week...."

There was a movement I used to keep up with to place W. on Rushmore. This was 2003-04.

I think about it whenever I hear this Obama Messiah noise.

#49 | Posted by goatman at

I'm fairly certain that you have used that logic on more occasions than 1 to let us know that random right wing shit bag #2 is going to be the next president or is making a lot of money, or is winning at this or that or whatever. It's pretty fun arguing a "point" that makes no fucking sense at all, isn't it?

You are scared shitless of arrack Obama, it only shows how effective he is.

Simply mentioning his name here proves how scared you are of him.

It's relative, isn't it? Obama hasn't hosted a Pearl Harbor level failure so far. Using that as benchmark, he's doing more than OK.

Obama's main acheivement to date? I'd say averting a world-wide banking collapse that would have thrown a majority of posters here out of work, and away from their computers.

I'd say averting a world-wide banking collapse that would have thrown a majority of posters here out of work, and away from their computers.

Too early to tell yet. Replace "averting" with "Postponing" and I would agree. I don't see how all this magically created money won't come back to bite us in the ass. I think Ray is a wack job, but he does have a valid point about the Great Depression -- it took several years to hit rock bottom.

Simply mentioning his name here proves how scared you are of him.

I freely admit I am scared shitless of him. He is clueless and is at the helm of my country.

"Too early to tell yet..."

I'd agree it's too early to see if we are entirely out of the woods. But the woods were actively arming themselves against us just a few months ago. I'm grateful they've dropped their guns for the time being; I've people I'm responsible for.

"He is clueless and at the helm of my country..."

At the risk of being a backwards-looker, did you have that same fear with W?

You are scared shitless of arrack Obama, it only shows how effective he is.

Yes, he is effective all right. Too bad it's not in a positive manner.

#60 | Posted by goatman at

Scared shitless.

At the risk of being a backwards-looker, did you have that same fear with W?

I've stated numerous times on the blog that I did not like Bush as a president. I said it a lot in fact. I'm surprised you missed it, zed.

Scared shitless.

???

As I said, I freely admit it.

Why do you keep repeating something we are in agreement on?

Here's the irony of discussions like this---Win, lose, or draw I was too burned by the eight years previous to this one to seriously consider voting Republican again for the rest of my short life.

"I'm surprised you missed it, Zed...."

What I was looking for was a statement you saw Bush as being clueless. Yeah, I didn't like him, either. That's why I voted Obama.

I've asked this question before, gotten no answer: If Obama were to drop Iraq and Afghanistan this moment, is that a good or a bad thing?

Then reason I ask is I have a Republican acquaintance who rants about Obama not reinforcing Afghanistan. Says his lack of action is a betrayal of our troops.

Where she was and what she was doing on this topic for seven years previously, I have no earthly idea. Interesting how the world changes.

"I've stated numerous times on the blog that I did not like Bush as a president"

Now there's a bold stand! Once again goatBoOb leads the way. That boy's a fucking profile in courage.

Now there's a bold stand! Once again goatBoOb leads the way. That boy's a fucking profile in courage.

???

Oh well, it is intellectually easier to play the blame game than to look forward and move on.

#47 | Posted by goatman

No, it's intellectually dishonest to continue spout 'fear' over Obama's actions, when the very thing you fear - deficits on this thread - were not of his making, and completely the doing of his predecessor, who had the option of paying off the national debt rather than 2 tax cuts, tanking the economy, creating several trillion dollar boondoggles, and creating a situation where we WILL be running deficits as far as the eye can see just to pay interest on the national debt they doubled rather than paying off.

I know you right wingers would like us to completely forget who and what got us into this mess, but that's simply not going to happen. There most likely would be NO DEFICITS now without the actions taken by his predecessors - who knew EXACTLY what they were doing and used Ronald Reagan and Saddam Hussein as an excuse to run us into the ground.

The BLAME lies squarely on the Bush Administration for the foreseeable future. The present and future are a DIRECT RESULT of their actions in the past.

Sorry you aren't intellectually honest enough to admit that.

"I know you right wingers..."

GoatbOoB isn't a right winger. He's non-partisan and non-ideological. Can't you tell from his posts?

The right, and Vernon, is scared shitless of Barrack Obama.

#10 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-10-04 01:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

He's the president, dumbfuck. Of course he'll come up.

#48 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-10-04 05:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

NoGov is a racist

NoGov is a racist

#73 | Posted by vernon at

Ah,,, you said my name, you are also scared shitless of ME.

#63 | Posted by goatman at

By your own logic, when the opposition is afraid of a political figureit only shows how effective they are and what a great job they are doing. Isn't it fun arguing with logic like your own?

#63 | Posted by goatman at

By your own logic, when the opposition is afraid of a political figureit only shows how effective they are and what a great job they are doing. Isn't it fun arguing with logic like your own?

???

That was your assertion and logic in post #47. I never said that in any post, much less #63.

You aren't sober right now, are you?

you are also scared shitless of ME.

You sure like saying "scared shitless", don't you? LOL What is this, like the 7th or 8th time this thread?

You aren't sober right now, are you?

#76 | Posted by goatman at

Sober as a judge, pants pisser. The right is scared shitless of Barrack Obama.

Isn't this fun?

The right is scared shitless of Barrack Obama.

Isn't this fun?

Personally I don't find having to fear your leader and what harm he brings to your country any fun -- but to each his own.

BTW, if you are sober, why did you ascribe something to me that was clearly yours earlier in the thread? Bad memory? Ignorance? Trolling? ALl of the above?

I've seen it here about 1k times just from the other side, if you don't recognize it you're either:

1. Retarded
2. A liar
3. A lying retard

And I'm quite certain I've seen it out of you on a thread about Glenn Beck, or Bachman, or Palin, or Limbaugh, or all of them.

Plain and simple, you are scared shitless of Barrack Obama because he is effective and he is doing a good job.

Plain and simple, you are scared shitless of Barrack Obama ...

Yes, I am scared shitless of obama because of the destructive path he is taking America down and his failure to keep his campaign promises.

(you aren't real bright, are you? Or do you just like hearing how bad your messiah is over and over?)

I like how you skipped the whole point in this little experiment. I'm simply showing you what it's like arguing with an idiot. Whassamadda, don't like the way your own shit smells, pants pisser?

(you aren't real bright, are you? Or do you just like hearing how scared shitless you are of Barrack Obama over and over?)

I'm simply showing you what it's like arguing with an idiot.

Well if you like being an idiot, go for it, dude. To each his own.

I pretty much suspected you were an idiot when I see that your handle doesn't match your posting at all. no gov, huh, but you fawn all over the messiah and his government. LOL

(you aren't real bright, are you?

I'm quite bright, actually.

Or do you just like hearing how scared shitless you are of Barrack Obama over and over?)

I don't mind hearing it. It's the truth and everytime you say it, it underscores the fact that we have a leader who is taking this country down the path of destruction and is to be feared for it. So keep it up, please.

should have called this thread "tiresome screams of scared shitless"

It's the truth and everytime you say it, it underscores the fact that we have a leader who is taking this country down the path of destruction and is to be feared for it. So keep it up, please.

#85 | Posted by goatman at

Translation:

"I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!!!!"

Is your birth cretidficate in a freezer bag?

Translation:

"I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!!!!"

???

I'd see if I could get my money back on that ESL night class.

Is your birth cretidficate in a freezer bag?

I don't think so. It ought to be on file at the Dallas County Bureau of Vital Statistics. Do you keep yours in the freezer or something?

I wonder if Goat would support Alan Keyes as president?

Go easy on Goat, he's scared shitless, he just wants his country back.

He isn't getting it back pre 1964 America is dead and gone.

Go easy on Goat, he's scared shitless, he just wants his country back.

#90 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-10-05 06:35 AM | Reply | Flag: Boyd's twin brother

LOL

Who is Boyd?

Must be someone who is effective, you wouldn't have mentioned his name here if you weren't scared shitless of him.

Who is Boyd?

Must be someone who is effective,

He is someone brainless like you and has to resort to assigning false positions to people, putting words into people's mouth, and latching on to a phrase (as your "scared shitless") and repeating it over and over because he is incapable of original thought.

As I said, your twin brother. LOL

Go easy on Goat

#90 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-10-05 06:35 AM

You wouldn't have mentioned my name here if you weren't scared shitless of me.

Whassamadda, don't like the way your own shit smells, pants pisser?

LOL

You're too easy of a punching bag, dude. You set yourself up, I knock you down with your own words. LOL

I'm sure you'll understand if I go look for someone with a brain to engage. I like a little challenge and you fail to deliver.

Yeah, well, like it or not this whole thread, and most others you post in from here on out, has been and will be will turned into little more than me telling you how scared shitless you are of the subject of your post. It will be a lot of fun, it's only what I've watched you do yourself since I started posting here.

Yeah, well, like it or not this whole thread, and most others you post in from here on out, has been and will be will turned into little more than me telling you how scared shitless you are of the subject of your post. It will be a lot of fun, it's only what I've watched you do yourself since I started posting here.

Whatever blows air up your skirt, hon. Life's all about having a good time. Even if it's simple minded repitition, I say go for it. The stupid deserve their simple thrills in life, too.

Have fun!

...and most others you post in from here on out, has been and will be will turned into little more than me telling you how scared shitless you are of

#96 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-10-05 08:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

Congrats Goat! You have another confirmed stalker!

Wow, who hurt NoGov's feelings?

again for the rest of my short life.

#64 | Posted by Zed at 2009-10-04 05:30 PM | Reply

Finally, something posted that made me smile today.

#96 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-10-05 08:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

Congrats Goat! You have another confirmed stalker!

#98 | Posted by vernon

I didn't think it was possible, but this one is even more ignorant than the last. I guess they are having a hard time placing the bottom of the stalker school class and I'm getting stuck with them.

It might not be PC, but the dumb ones are more fun to watch though. This one says "scared shitless" like my 15 YO granddaughter says "mama".

Wow, who hurt NoGov's feelings?

I did, but it really isn't anything to brag about. It's like taking candy from a baby with this one. I should be ashamed

Congrats Goat! You have another confirmed stalker!

#98 | Posted by vernon

Rtard Vernon knows who his pals are.

I wonder if Goat would support Alan Keyes as president?

#89 | Posted by jackass at 2009-10-05 05:49 AM |

Keys is a hell of a lot smarter than Obama and he doesn't think the constitution needs thrown in the trash. I voted for him when he rean against Obama for the Illinois senate. Keys might have actually won had he not been a last minute draft because of a sex scandal by the original gop oponent.