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Thimerosal is nearly 50% mercury. Now, there is mercury and then there is mercury. Organic mercury that contained in Thimerosal is more dangerous than inorganic mercury, as it tends to hang around in the body longer. How dangerous is it?

According to one report, "In 1977, a Russian study found that adults exposed to ethylmercury, the form of mercury in thimerosal, suffered brain damage years later. Studies on thimerosal poisoning also describe tubular necrosis and nervous system injury, including obtundation, coma and death."

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go get ur tamiflu vaccy's now ~ honeys

You do know tamiflu is not a vaccine, right?

Mercury Mercury Mercury. They use any and all excuses now don't they?? My word I swear. Hell I used to have a tiny bit of Mercury that I rolled around in My hand. I have had no lasting side effects "Shut up No You shut up I told You to shut the fuck up Twitch Twitch Twitch" all kidding aside people worry too G-d Damned much. Oh My I just broke a CFL I better call Hazmat stat. (ROLLS EYES)


Larry

Hell I used to have a tiny bit of Mercury that I rolled around in My hand. I have had no lasting side effects

Must . . . not. . . give . . . in . . . to . . . tempation. . . . . .

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yes, worry has killed more people than this swine flu ever will ~ for sure ~ Larry

Bani I very rarely worry about the shots that I receive. I look at it this way if they do their job fine if they screw up My system well shit happens and I'll deal with it. If it doesn't work I will deal with the illness disease as it happens. If I should die from whatever well I will just have a new mailing address. Section 1 plot 9 space 8. I just hope and pray that if I should die that RCADE sends Me a miniature Toilet with tank with My name on it and the required 3 dumps for an honourary 14 day suspension. So My family can place it inside of My casket with a solar powered laptop logged onto the Drudge Retort. I'll be happier than a pig in slop. Other than that there are no guarantees in life. You do the best You can and that's it. Life does goeth on.

Larry

#5 | Posted by Bani

What's your point? Another website has it wrong too?

Do you ever post anything out of your own head, or just cut-and-pastes from websites that happen to back your position regardless of how asinine it is?

Bani's just trying to wrest the title of DR loon from Barfalo BoOb. Bani has much work to do.

Organic mercury that contained in Thimerosal is more dangerous than inorganic mercury, as it tends to hang around in the body longer. How dangerous is it?

Not true.

Besides, he doesn't take his "mercury and then there's mercury" far enough. He only takes it as far as he needs to to support his position.

Just as organomercury is not elemental mercury, it's chemistry is completely different.

"Organic mercury"

Somebody failed 3rd grade chemistry.

Make that kindergarten khemistry.

If I had money tell you what I'd do
I'd go downtown and buy a Mercury or two
Im crazy 'bout a Mercury, I'm crazy 'bout a Mercury
I'm gonna buy me a Mercury and cruise it up and down the road

The girl I love, I stole it from a friend
He got lucky stole her back again
Cuz She knew he had a Mercury, she knew he had a Mercury
I'm gonna buy me a Mercury and cruise it up and down the road

Hey now mama you look so fine
Ridin' round in your Mercury 49
Im crazy 'bout a Mercury, I'm crazy 'bout a Mercury
I'm gonna buy me a Mercury and cruise it up and down the road

My baby went out she didn't stay long
She bought herself a Mercury, came a cruisin' home
Im crazy 'bout a Mercury, Im crazy 'bout a Mercury
I'm gonna buy me a Mercury and cruise it up and down the road

If I had money tell you what I'd do
I'd go downtown and buy a Mercury or two
Im crazy 'bout a Mercury, I'm crazy 'bout a Mercury
I'm gonna buy me a Mercury and cruise it up and down the road

I'm gonna buy me a Mercury and cruise it up and down the road.

David Lindley

JPW - so, the Russian study is false, or is there merit? Also, does that FDA quote regarding inactivated influenza vaccine mean all flu vaccines, like the common flu shots being given out this month?

Redlight, there's no link to the study. I tried looking for it. All I found was a link to another crackpot website riddled with enough errors to make any person with a life sciences background cringe. They refer to the same study but don't cite it.

Given the anti-vaccine movement's history of lying through their teeth when it suits them, I would not be surprised if it never existed in the first place. Perhaps it is the same as the "evidence for vaccine-autism links" that keeps coming up in conversation. There is none... it's a lie that you hope to repeat so much it becomes true.

And as far as thiomersal goes, it's a matter of dose... we all have radioactive potassium 40 in our bodies. It's a nearly unavoidable part of our diets. Every time you eat, you are dosing yourself with radioactive substances... but it doesn't matter because the doses are so low. It would be a different situation if someone started making you K-40 smoothies. You might end up like Litvenenko.

so, the Russian study is false, or is there merit?

I don't know. I'm suspect over the use of it due to its age.

Given the thimerosal=autism BS in the past few years, some much more updated work has been done on the effects of thimerosal in animal models. To my knowledge much of it has shown that thimerosal is not as bad as it was made out to be.


Also, does that FDA quote regarding inactivated influenza vaccine mean all flu vaccines, like the common flu shots being given out this month?

I believe so but I'm not 100% sure.

Preservatives such as thimerosal are added to multi-dose vaccines and I think many vaccines come as single doses, thus the ability to remove thimerosal.

from the article that the pharm shills here attempt to debunked...

The most commonly used vaccine preservative is called Thimerosal. Here's what the FDA has to say about it: "Thimerosal is a mercury-containing organic compound (an organomercurial). Since the 1930s, it has been widely used as a preservative in a number of biological and drug products, including many vaccines, to help prevent potentially life threatening contamination with harmful microbes. Over the past several years, because of an increasing awareness of the theoretical potential for neurotoxicity of even low levels of organomercurials and because of the increased number of thimerosal-containing vaccines that had been added to the infant immunization schedule, concerns about the use of thimerosal in vaccines and other products have been raised. Indeed, because of these concerns, the Food and Drug Administration has worked with, and continues to work with, vaccine manufacturers to reduce or eliminate thimerosal from vaccines. Thimerosal has been removed from or reduced to trace amounts in all vaccines routinely recommended for children 6 years of age and younger, with the exception of inactivated influenza vaccine."

In other words, we know it's dangerous; So dangerous that we are trying to reduce it or remove it completely from vaccines. But we're going to go ahead and put it in flu vaccine.' And of course that includes the swine flu vaccine. And it is in there, I read the label.

Thimerosal is nearly 50% mercury. Now, there is mercury and then there is mercury. Organic mercury that contained in Thimerosal is more dangerous than inorganic mercury, as it tends to hang around in the body longer. How dangerous is it?
www.fda.gov

Do you ever post anything out of your own head, or just cut-and-pastes from websites that happen to back your position regardless of how asinine it is?

#8 | Posted by jpw


self retorting again?

Setting the people up to die: A conspiracy of silence about swine flu natural remedies
It's emblazoned across the front page of USA Today, just underneath a subhead declaring Michael Jackson was, indeed, killed by a drug overdose: "Flu could infect half of USA." The article goes on to describe the predicted number of deaths expected in the U.S. (30,000 - 90,000 Americans) as well as the actions being taken by the government to protect Americans from the coming swine flu pandemic.

That advice reads sort of like a comic book of health care advice for kindergarteners: Wash your hands, cover your mouth if you cough and let "the grownups" take care of the rest by injecting you with a vaccine. Curiously absent from all the health advice being handed out on the swine flu by the White House, the CDC, the WHO and even the FDA is any mention of Vitamin D or other natural remedies that offer enormous protections from influenza infections.

The absence of this information from virtually all the advice being handed out to the American public is increasingly suspicious. If a pandemic flu is, indeed, threatening to infect half the U.S. population, and if most of the population is deficient in a nutrient known to strongly prevent influenza infections, wouldn't it make good sense to make a few announcements encouraging Americans to raise their vitamin D levels throughout the coming winter?

It is a well-known medical fact, of course, that influenza always gets worse during the winter months North of the equator and the summer months South of the equator (which are really called their "winter" months). This is because as sunlight hours lessen during the winter, the people living there become vitamin D deficient and are susceptible to influenza infections of all kinds.

The information resources backing this are easy to find. Even our own NaturalPedia.com website reveals a large amount of information on natural defenses against influenza (www.naturalpedia.com). NaturalNews.com, of course, offers a wealth of articles on Vitamin D (www.naturalnews.com).

In the realm of peer-reviewed medical literature, searching Google Scholar for "influenza" and "vitamin D" returns tens of thousands of results (scholar.google.com). In particular, one study appearing in these search results is entitled Epidemic influenza and vitamin D. It was published in 2006 in the journal Epidemiology and Infection (2006, 134:6:1129-1140 Cambridge University Press) and its abstract reads as follows:

In 1981, R. Edgar Hope-Simpson proposed that a 'seasonal stimulus' intimately associated with solar radiation explained the remarkable seasonality of epidemic influenza. Solar radiation triggers robust seasonal vitamin D production in the skin; vitamin D deficiency is common in the winter, and activated vitamin D, 1,25(OH)2D, a steroid hormone, has profound effects on human immunity.

www.examiner.com

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