Just saw a Northface logo on a new acquaint's sweatshirt
& commented on it the other nite

how cute

Bought my North Face mountaineering shell jacket for skiing in 84; guess I was way ahead of the 'in crowd'. Also was into Patagonia at that time.

Better check the gender of the South Butt before JeffJ sees it. He might get another woody for a guy named Woody.

Larry

saw the kid on TV . . he & his lawyer said - -

North Face can kiss my South Butt

I've never worn North Face. North Face is for yuppies. Their clothing won't cut it in the wilderness and that is fact.

"Their clothing won't cut it in the wilderness and that is fact."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA

north face is good, i like marmot...lifetime warranty on my ski shell and pants

I've never worn North Face. North Face is for yuppies. Their clothing won't cut it in the wilderness and that is fact.

I picked up a pair of North Face trail shoes for day hikes from Sierra Trading post. They've taken everything I've thrown at them for almost a year now. They were the best 20 dollar shoes I've ever bought.

north face is good, i like marmot...lifetime warranty on my ski shell and pants

Read the fine print pancho. It only applies to the original purchaser. If you freeze your ass off, you may be able to sue for a new ass, but if you freeze to death, all bets are off.

I've never worn North Face. North Face is for yuppies. Their clothing won't cut it in the wilderness and that is fact.

#6 | Posted by wurster

You might want to leave your living room dumbass..North Face equipment is great in sub-artic climes and I have been toasty on many occasion in NF equipment. I just don't shop REI ..that's where you get anally taken to the cleaners. Campmor.. dude.. Campmor.

got a pretty good layer system, i'm good. skied in minus 30-40 celsius including wind chill, with a facemask it was all good...just don't stop for too long and head for the glades

""I just don't shop REI""

had ski pants a long while ago by rei, weren't bad, but they did tatter in the end.

The obvious solution is to stay inside when it's cold. I hate the cold more than anything. That's one of the many reasons I moved to San Antonio. North central Texas was way too cold for me. They actually get snow once every few years up there. BRRRRRR!

PS -- I'm proud to say that I don't even own a winter jacket anymore. Those few days it gets into the 40s in SA, I have a camel hair sports coat I'll put on to get me from the car to inside whereever I'm going. If in the 50s, the tweed or houndstooth work OK.

Okay, ready to drop the wisdom (which is what you get when you don't get what you want)...

REI is fine.... if you're willing to be a repeat customer, you can get an REI card and get money back when you've spent enough money in the first place.

I bought my first tele gear at REI. Got steared into NNN (New Nordic Norm) skis. They're great in their own right, especially if you're into well worn ski terrain. And if you're focused on Xcountry skating, they'll provide exactly what you're looking for(again at a price). But for the back country, you're going to have to know what you're talking about, and make that clear with the salesaman. Then he/she will respect you and steer you right.

But if you really know what you are talking about and don't need a salesman, campmor is he gold standard. you just have to be willing to tolerate shipping back what you get wrong since they are mail order only. That's an issue when you are purchasing last minute.

Now, with respect to brands, North face is absoltely fine. They provide gear for all weather conditions, but becase they've gotten a reputation in the cities, they're very overpriced (you pro capitalist advocates should appreciate that). There are many other brands that do the same for less. I'm partial to Columbia and Mountain Hardware.

Stuff White People Like: Outdoor Performance Clothes

The obvious solution is to stay inside when it's cold. I hate the cold more than anything. That's one of the many reasons I moved to San Antonio. North central Texas was way too cold for me. They actually get snow once every few years up there. BRRRRRR!

#15 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-03 11:15 PM | Reply | Flag: How do you say PUSSY without actually saying it?

J/K... pussy.

;)

#18 | Posted by citizen_x at 2009-10-03 11:53 PM | Reply | Flag: wishes his nose was long enough to tolerate the cold, yo.

J/K... pussy

I know. It's OK. I've said it many times before to people who come down to SA and complain about the heat when it's only 102F. *grin*

I love the hot weather!

Actually, I live in Minnesota. Some may have heard, but it does get cold here occasionally. I didn't write the post, just a quick copy/paste job from a funny website. Hopefully, they don't mind the promotion.

White people be crazy.

Alls You gotsta do is put on some fat and You are all set for the winter cold. Then wear the appropriate layers of clothing and You be peachy keen and Warm as toast.

Larry

Oh and You haven't lived until You strip Yourself buck naked and go out and make You some naked snow angels. THAT rocks big time.

Larry

I know. It's OK. I've said it many times before to people who come down to SA and complain about the heat when it's only 102F. *grin*

In the last couple of years, I've learned to appreciate the hot weather. Just spent a week in Turks and Caicos and loved every minute of it. But there comes a point where you can't take off any more clothing.

That point in't 102F.

isn't.

Actually, I live in Minnesota. Some may have heard, but it does get cold here occasionally. I didn't write the post, just a quick copy/paste job from a funny website. Hopefully, they don't mind the promotion.
White people be crazy.
#22 | Posted by citizen_x

Ever read Guns, Germs and Steel? Pretty interesting. I'd have to add weathering the cold.

Guns, Germs, Steel and Cold are the real driving forces of modern civilization.

The main reason why white people like these clothes is that it allows them to believe that at any moment they could find themselves with a Thule rack on top of their car headed to a national park. It could be 4:00 p.m. on a Saturday when they might get a call "hey man, you know what we need to do? Kayak then camping, right now. I'm on my way to get you, there is no time to change clothes."

Believe it or not, I have gotten that call.

A friend in Columbia decided he wanted to take a 3 day kayaking outing down the Saluda into Congaree National Park. I had time to pack, though.

I can almost be sure that the people who wear "High Performance Outdoor Clothing" all the time think having a picnic in a municipal park is "roughing it".

Campmor is a great vendor, but no one can beat Sierra Trading Posts' return policy. Bought a pair of Asolo hiking boots, wore them for 3 months, had them broken in, decided I didn't like them and got a full refund.

#24 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-04 12:06 AM | Reply | Flag: A mental image I may never be able to bleach my mind of

Bought a pair of Asolo hiking boots, wore them for 3 months, had them broken in, decided I didn't like them and got a full refund.
Posted by Axiom

Get out... that's awesome. I've bought from them before but never thought they would do something like that.

I don't need any more outdoor gear, apart from some decent rain gear. Have to keep that in mind. Thanks for the heads up.

#24 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-04 12:06 AM | Reply | Flag: A mental image I may never be able to bleach my mind of

You should have seen the reaction of his neighbors.

#24 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-10-04 12:06 AM | Reply | Flag: A mental image I may never be able to bleach my mind of
#29 | Posted by goatman

You're not kidding. Larry is always willing to provide more than enough information.

It's 100F outside. Larry opens his door and....

Damn!

I don't need any more outdoor gear, apart from some decent rain gear. Have to keep that in mind. Thanks for the heads up.

I don't either, but sometimes they've got a deal that I can't pass up. Those Asolo boots I bought were 74 bucks on sale. They retail for 140.

Those Asolo boots I bought were 74 bucks on sale. They retail for 140.

That is an awesome deal. I got my Merrill's for about 140. Two years later I can't be all that upset about the price though. They're great.

Except for the calf callouses I get every December.

I've come to the conclusion that I actually need less gear. I've worked my base weight down from 34lbs to 23lbs. That doesn't include food...but I can't bring myself to leave my axe and extra pants and shirt at home.

I'm not a gram weenie by any means, but I'm amazed that some of the guys I hike with have 10lbs base weight.

I'm not a gram weenie by any means, but I'm amazed that some of the guys I hike with have 10lbs base weight.

#35 | Posted by Axiom

Let me guess, a bivy sack, a water filter and they forage for food?

I'm at about 50lbs. I write off the extra weight as a work out.

Nope. We're all either hammock hangers or tarp tenters. My hammock, tarp and down insulation weights in about 3lbs total. But I pack water and a extra first aid supplies along with a few tools necessary to build improvised shelter if it becomes necessary.

These guys cut the handles from tooth brushes, tags from clothing, unused straps from packs, home made packs made from super light weight materials, not packing any water.

There's one guy who is such a geek about it, he removes the plastic rings from the soda bottle cap that he carries for water.

"These guys cut the handles from tooth brushes, tags from clothing, unused straps from packs, home made packs made from super light weight materials, not packing any water."

OH, those guys. Yeah, I love them but admit that I'm too much of a NYC boy to hang.

Maybe if I was still single I'd have moved in that direction.

I built a lean-to successfully once.

I have to laugh. The bride loves to camp, but "roughing it" is not in her vocabulary. We recently camped for a week at a friend's remote lake property, and ran an extension cord over a hundred feet so we could have a fan inside the tent on the hot afternoons. The one and only moment of sacrifice came when we had to use regular salt instead of kosher salt for our happy hour salty dogs. The car was so jam-packed, the puppy had to ride on her lap on the way down, and in a little custom-make pocket on the way back.

I make jokes about them being girly men because they own their own sewing machine, but if I could learn half of what they know, I'd cut my gear want list in half by making it myself.

I survive off of instant grits, shelf stable bacon, dehydrated vegetables and potatoes and ground beef for several days. Some of these guys eat a damn power bar for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

I've been known to pack a frozen steak for the first night;s camp. They giggle at my campsite cuisine and point out why my legs are so tired and achy. I remind them that, after 5 days, they'll still be eating bland, unsatisfying peanut butter flavored chocolate covered cardboard.

The guy that made my tarps lives and goes to graduate school in Rochester, NY.

North central Texas was way too cold for me. They actually get snow once every few years up there. BRRRRRR!

#15 | Posted by goatman

What a little wuss. lol

What a little wuss.

I am.

I'd rather be "hiking" the beach in the nude than hiking a trail with 10 lbs of clothing. LOL

I'm by no means a purist, either, Danforth.

As far as I'm concerned, as long as you're out there and enjoying the sights and sounds of nature, that should be enough.

Car camping is great 'cause you can bring EVERYTHING.

I built a lean-to successfully once.

Part of the benefit of living in the sticks and owning a few acres. If I want to go out and test my knowledge of survival skills, no one is going to look at me funny for sleeping inside what amounts to a cleverly arranged pile of sticks and leaves.

Try to get away with that in central park and you'll have some free time in Bellvue.

I'd rather be "hiking" the beach in the nude than hiking a trail with 10 lbs of clothing. LOL

#42 | Posted by goatman

I know. I believe you're a nudist at heart.

If you could get away with it you'd probably never wear any clothes at all except for shoes and then only if you needed them. LOL

If you could get away with it you'd probably never wear any clothes at all except for shoes and then only if you needed them.

It's true. Shoes are all you need!

It's true. Shoes are all you need!

Nothing on that link, Axiom.

"Car camping is great 'cause you can bring EVERYTHING."

Absolutely. The bride has it down to about a half a ton.

I don't mind car camping so much, but I don't make it my only camping experience. Car camping is cool cause you can bring lots of beer.

But even with car camping with the guys, I can't stand it when someone brings a portable TV or radios so they can watch "the game". I like listening to the crickets, the wind in the trees and watching the fire and moonlight.

strange, that link works fine for me. Lemme try again...

If only you'd told me sooner

#46 | Posted by Axiom

Ouch! One nasty blister.

that's not a blister :)

I sleep in a camping hammock. I woke up a bit wobbly legged about 6am one saturday morning. It had rained a bit the night before. The ground was a big soggy and slippery. Lost my balance a bit, planted my foot and found the rock an inch or so below the surface of the ground.

I howled.

Then I went on a long hike.

Car camping is great 'cause you can bring EVERYTHING."

Absolutely. The bride has it down to about a half a ton.

#48 | Posted by Danforth

LOL! I can relate to your wife's camping adventures. I'm the same way.

I'd go camping with my Toyota Corolla hatchback and it would be packed full in the back.

I like a few creature comforts with me no matter where I am and I'm willing to lug them along down to the river bank or wherever I was camping. My backpack would look like a balloon it would be so full sometimes and I also always wore a fanny pack with all my camera equipment.

What a workout!

I howled.

I don't blame you, poor baby. It must have hurt.

Then I went on a long hike.

Don't know how you managed to walk on it right away. A real mountain man. : )

Glad you only showed us the photo after your rock cut was all cleaned up, Axiom, and left out the blood and gore.

"What a workout!"

We have it nicely delineated: she packs the individual containers, I haul and pack the car. Then I haul to the sight, we put up the tent, and I finish the haul as she unpacks. It works well, especially considering our multi-area tent with the 270-degree view from the front room. Once we're done: cocktail hour!

I sure like the camping set-up routine you and your wife have going, Danforth.

Looks like you both have it down to a science -- even to the perfect time for your cocktail hour.

You're multi-area tent sounds great too. Do you guys camp by a river or a lake? I usually enjoy having some kind of water nearby when I camp It's so relaxing to be able to see and hear a river rushing by your campsite.

"Do you guys camp by a river or a lake?"

Wherever we can; usually a lake, but we've done both, everything from a friend's lake to the Tetons. Next spring we'll camp in the Smokies again on our way to another camping spot on the SC Beach. We had to get reservations 330 days in advance.

"You're multi-area tent sounds great too."

It's the LLBean unit that sleeps six...just big enough for the two of us!

The obvious solution is to stay inside when it's cold. I hate the cold more than anything. That's one of the many reasons I moved to San Antonio. North central Texas was way too cold for me. They actually get snow once every few years up there. BRRRRRR!
#15 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-03 11:15 PM | Reply | Flag: How do you say PUSSY without actually saying it?

J/K... pussy.
;)
#19 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE

the older i get the more i like the cold..

.. If you plan on spending part of your weekend with a white person, it is strongly recommended that you purchase a jacket or some sort of "high performance" t-shirt, which is like a regular shirt but just a lot more expensive
#18 | Posted by citizen_x at 2009-10-03 11:53 PM

The comments are also too clever.. Thanks for the laugh this morning. Awesome.

When my son was young we used to go camping at least twice a month in N Georgia. Always car camping at a state park. My wife would never go with us. But she would come to the campsite and help us set up, then have dinner with us. She would the leave me and my son.

I convinced her to stay overnight once with us at Red Top Mountain State Park on Lake Alatoona. She reluctantly agreed. In the middle of the night she said she had to pee, so I got up to take her the bathroom not far down the path.

It was very dark, but I saw a silhouette of somthing lumbering ahead in the path. I realized it was a bear. It was harmless, of course. But needless to say the first time my wife camped with us was also her last. LOL

In the middle of the night she said she had to pee, so I got up to take her the bathroom not far down the path.

I'm confused here? Was the bear in line too? There used to be a time when man and bear both peed in the woods. Now, I suppose they both could get arrested.

My cold weather gear is Carhart.

You don't need flexibility when pushing a snow blower or snow shovel.

For shooting I take off the coat when I step to the line and replace it when I am done. Usually about 1 minute exposed to the weather in my flannel shirt. Wrangler jeans and long johns.

This attire works well down to about 0 F.

Fortunatly the Lake Michigan moderates our temps here in West Michigan and we don't get a lot of sub zero weather.

That's what I love about Montana... It gets down there, but it's a "dry cold"

Love winter camping, but the Espousa can't hang. Last 4th of July we canoed to the campsite. Talk about the Cullhains on the water; between her "necessities", my beer coolers and the pooch I think we had 2" of float left on the canoe. Great times though, great times...

Oh yeah, I hike NF boots all year round, love em!

You don't need flexibility when pushing a snow blower or snow shovel.

I don't need flexibility when I'm hiking either. I do, however, need quick drying, moisture wicking and light weight...none of which comes from a regular pair of carhart pants.

As the saying goes, though, cotton kills. It dries too slowly, and if wet, will wick heat away from the body and you'll end up dead.

I'm confused here? Was the bear in line too? There used to be a time when man and bear both peed in the woods.

Men, yes. Women, no way -- at least some women. My wife was one of them.

We were driving to Angelfire in NM from Amarillo TX to go skiing once. My wife had to pee and there wasn't a gas station withing miles. Nor was there any traffic. I pulled over 5 or six times for her to pee on the side of the road next to the car, but each time she said she couldn't even though I was the only one within miles. She had to have a toilet to sit on in a private room. Finally at the point of bursting she managed to squat by the car and go.

My grandmother was the opposite. I was taking her to see some relatives in OKC once. I was driving up I-35. She told me she had to go to the bathroom. I said OK and that I would pull over at the next gas station. She said, no, just pull over here. I pulled over on the shoulder and she squatted by the open car door while I looked the other way. In retrospect, it was kind of funny, bu then I couldn't believe it.

I went on a date with a girl in high school that "dried her cooter" off with the exhaust gasses from the muffler.

We only had one date. Also in retrospect...it's hilarious to tell the story now, but back then I had been trying to bump uglies with this chick forever.

Got her on a dirt road and things went downhill quickly.