Wanted: Marijuana Reviewer

Cool article! Anti-Marijuana laws are almost as dumb as mandatory recycling, curly flourescent lightbulbs and mandatory health insurance.

I'm surprised null isn't here dissing the article. He knows everything about pot whether he's been there or smoked it or not. He told me as much yesterday. I talked about some very good pot I smoked in the Western Pacific when I was in the Navy and he told me I didn't know and that I just talked about it to be cool.

Hmmm -- he wasn't there, it was 30 years ago, I wonder how he does it? LOL

#2
Been smoked for thousands of years,but every generation thinks they discovered it.AS did I in my youth,hahaha

How will the paper weed out applicants?

"How will the paper weed out applicants?"

The Bong Show.

White Rhino

"White Rhino"

Looks good. Your own grow?

My generation made it better!
says alot...

"Looks good. Your own grow?

#8 | Posted by nullifidian"

Not as good as the shit I smoked in the 70's when I was a squid on a WESPAC tour.

Tweedle

Sounds like a killer job to me. I would get pwned, for edibles are my weak point. But so are microbreweries: so Colorado is up there on my "places to visit" list.

I've gotten paid for poking smot but it was strictly for science. Conventional vs. vaporized smoking was the study I was involved in.

Now, where I live, local pot shops are being subpoenaed by the city gov. to hand over all contact information of their patients. So far, none have complied. The municipalities are using zoning laws crush dispensaries.

"Not as good as the shit I smoked in the 70's when I was a squid on a WESPAC tour.

Tweedle"

Old geezers always think the "good old days" were better.

I hate these threads on dry days.

Its raining outside.

But in the Celine house... pretty damn dry.

Dry on a saturday Hag ...

Poor baby don't they have guys that deliver on bicyle in NY?

Then again this time of year it always seems to dry up a bit around here too.

"But in the Celine house... pretty damn dry."

That sucks, man. I'll smoke an extra bowl today on your behalf. Got some Sour Diesel that rocks. :)

"Poor baby don't they have guys that deliver on bicyle in NY?"

Delivery services are legal in Cali, but New York?

Did I say legal Null? :)

"Poor baby don't they have guys that deliver on bicyle in NY?"

Delivery services are legal in Cali, but New York?
#16 | Posted by nullifidian

I've already mentioned this before but...

1. Prices in NY are double that on the west coast. Add on the delivery surcharge and you're talking $80plus for 1/8 of barely kind. I tend to get carried away so three or four days later.... I'm back where I started, even when using a dugout.

2. Delivery people are sKetchy and my wife would kill me with her bare hands if I allowed one into my apartment.

3. I look like a cop. Can't convince a dealer trying to make back money for stuff he was fronted to talk to me let alone broach the subject with people without scaring them.

4. My only option is a 40 mile train ride to some old buddies, but that's a four hour plus investment that I just don't have time for.

Load an extra one for me, Nulli. At least I'll know somebody is doing it in my honor.

Can't wait for "Global Warming" to arrive. Should make growing weed allot easier here in the northwest!

Man Hag,

Hate it for ya!

" Delivery people are sKetchy and my wife would kill me with her bare hands if I allowed one into my apartment."

I hate dealing with drug dealers. At least half of them are clueless idiots who will get arrested sooner or later, and I don't want to be there when it happens. Fortunately, you don't have to do that in Cali. For cannabis, that is.

The herb would get old quick when it's your job and you have to smoke it.

I remember wanting to work at the Chips-Ahoy factory when I was a kid so I would have an endless supply. I think this would be the same way.

"The herb would get old quick when it's your job and you have to smoke it."

I'll take that chance.

Someone called?

I think they are looking for Johnnie

Johnnie, he lives down in Georgia

www.youtube.com

"Looks good. Your own grow?
#8 | Posted by nullifidian"

Not as good as the shit I smoked in the 70's when I was a squid on a WESPAC tour.
Tweedle
#10 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-10-03 12:35 PM

Oh, my... not to diminish your experience from the stoned age, but you might be amazed at the strains now. They are crossed and cloned for perfection and indoor gardening has taken a steep technological growth in terms of vegging and flowering for maximum yield. Controlled specific light spectrum, ppm nutrients, pH and airflow induce incredible goodness. Plus, now it's easy and inexpensive to even do a rudimentary hydroponics setup.

"Oh, my... not to diminish your experience from the stoned age, but you might be amazed at the strains now."

Tell that to GoatbOoB AKA Tweedle.

Tell that to GoatbOoB AKA Tweedle.

How's it smelling today, ass-sniffer. I thought the frijoles fritos would add a little extra something for my favorite troll. LOL

BTW, I assume the this "tweedle" thing is supposed to be an insult, but I'm not sure what it means, so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to cry about.

Help me here, please, so I know how many box of Kleenexes to bring to the DR.

I am so glad I don't smoke weed. What a waste of time. Now, if we were in Columbia...

Smoking weed is no more a waste of time than drinking auntie.

Goat not sure what the insult was either, but I do agree that what is out there today is a lot better than it used to be. The KB I smoked 15 years ago would be called mids at best today. The dirt from 15 years ago would be given away free if anyone even had anything that crappy.

Although thats not 100 percent true I did have some nasty ass stuff not too long ago that was as bad as the nastiest mexican dirt weed I had ever smoked but thats pretty rare I run into anything that bad.

Oh, my... not to diminish your experience from the stoned age, but you might be amazed at the strains now.

Yes, I might be and probably would be. But I stand by my original statement (which started null to sneering from his pedestal) which was, "I don't know why anyon would want a better strain than the Thai stick I used to get in the Western Pacific..

One small hit of that would make you as stoned as one would ever want to ever get. Why would someone want something more powerful?

"One small hit of that would make you[me] as stoned as one [GoatbOoB] would ever want to ever get."

There. FTFY.

There. FTFY.

Thank you, dullifidian

[GoatbOoB]

That's my tm. Imitation is the sincerest form of flatter.

flatter = flattery

(I know most would know, but this was addressed to dull and you never can take anything for granted with him)

Looks good. Your own grow?

#8 | Posted by nullifidian

Sorry to say, No. I have managed to get by with some Afghan Green, back in the day, as well as some bubble gum scented stuff I dubbed "Bazooka Joe". i'D TAKE UP THE CAUSE IN A SECOND IF IT WERE DECRIMINALIZED.

Hey, Nulli..You ever heard of a live Doors album from the Matrix, in San Fran?

Got some Sour Diesel that rocks. :)

#15 | Posted by nullifidian

Any of youse guys try Headband? Sticks in your craw like Sour Diesel, and has a deeper thicker taste.

"The herb would get old quick when it's your job and you have to smoke it."

I'll take that chance.
#23 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2009-10-03 03:57 PM

Reconstituted into magic butter will enhance the euphoric effect 3-4 times, basically tripling the quantity that would normally be smoked. It takes anywhere from 30-50 minutes average to feel it, but when that bomb drops you are done. Butter a roll and you are good to go!

You might be interested in a DWC Bucket scenario. It's basically individual hydroponic grow that can be expanded as big as you like and it's fully transportable for better arranging.

#40 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2009-10-03 10:59 PM | Reply | Flag: How 60's

Thanks for dredging up 50 year old memories.

"Reconstituted into magic butter will enhance the euphoric effect 3-4 times, basically tripling the quantity that would normally be smoked. "

What are you talking about? That's nonsense. You need more, not less, cannabis when using it in an edible form such as cannabis butter.

"Oh, my... not to diminish your experience from the stoned age, but you might be amazed at the strains now."

Yes, I might be and probably would be. But I stand by my original statement (which started null to sneering from his pedestal) which was, "I don't know why anyon would want a better strain than the Thai stick I used to get in the Western Pacific..
One small hit of that would make you as stoned as one would ever want to ever get. Why would someone want something more powerful?
#32 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-03 08:10 PM

The variety of plant provide a variety of euphoria. Some make you sleepy, others dreamy and even mellow but alert. Because of the variety of neurological differences we will find a number of different reactions, but they generally fall within the mellow and happy range. There is an enormous culture devoted to herb and many aficionados. I have a sweet tooth and really enjoy certain sweeter strains, but the dankest greens are generally potent and skunky. It's really just a matter of the genetics involved and how better prepared the cola are, but if you really interested you might keep an open mind about new strains.

As for power - before I moved to California I used to buy for a Vietnam vet who was a sniper. Such cool and disturbing stories and herb helps him sleep calmly. His wife has a high-ranking position in the health community and green helps her relax on the weekends. Green alleviates pain among it's plentiful medical uses, but also lightens the spirit. Whatever I can do for my friends I shall.

"Reconstituted into magic butter will enhance the euphoric effect 3-4 times, basically tripling the quantity that would normally be smoked. "

What are you talking about? That's nonsense. You need more, not less, cannabis when using it in an edible form such as cannabis butter.
#42 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-10-03 11:04 PM

Actually, the tri-chromes are broken by the fat in the butter, which is a perfect medium to suspend it within. The liver converts the tri-chromes into 11 hydroxy THC which is 4 times as potent as when smoked.

1. Crush up one cup of buds (exclude stems) - a food processor is best.
2. Low boil a saucepan or pot of water.
3. Add 1 pound of real butter - margarine probably won't work. Let me know if you do.
4. Once melted, add your green and continue low boil for up to 30 minutes. The butter will turn green.
5. Cover a bowl in cheesecloth and pour the magic butter through, catching as much of the green as possible.
6. Using tongs squeeze out the cheesecloth to extract as much as possible. The remaining green and cheesecloth can be thrown away or used in milk or cocoa.
7. Once cool enough, place the bowl in the freezer or the fridge until the butter has separated.
8. Put the magic butter in a container. The water is probably not useful, as THC is not water soluble and will rise into the butter.
9. Spread your buns and apply liberally, dude.:]

9. Spread your buns and apply liberally, dude

DOesn't that make it feel kind of weird when you walk?

"9. Spread your buns and apply liberally, dude"

DOesn't that make it feel kind of weird when you walk?
#45 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-03 11:52 PM

"I like simple pleasures, like butter in my ass, lollipops in my mouth. That's just me. That's just something that I enjoy."

"Marijuana reviewer"

Talk about a job right up Nullifidian's alley.

"I like simple pleasures, like butter in my ass, lollipops in my mouth. That's just me. That's just something that I enjoy."

#46 | Posted by redlightrobot

Better than lollipops in your ass, I suppose.

I imagine those suckers might get a little too sticky and hard to yank out?

Talk about a job right up Nullifidian's alley.

No shit. He can evaluate pot he's never seen or been near

The liver converts the tri-chromes into 11 hydroxy THC which is 4 times as potent as when smoked."

Got a link?

Your recipe for cannabutter is fine, but no different than a hundred others I've seen.

No shit. He can evaluate pot he's never seen or been near

#49 | Posted by goatman

Shhh, Goat, don't tell anyone. But it's been rumored Nulli is the world expert on every type of Thai stick ever smoked on every Navy tour conducted throughout the 1970s.

♪♫ Oooooh, don't bogart that Thai stick, my friend, pass it over to me. ♪ ♫

"The liver converts the tri-chromes into 11 hydroxy THC which is 4 times as potent as when smoked."

Got a link?
Your recipe for cannabutter is fine, but no different than a hundred others I've seen.
#50 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-10-04 12:46 AM

The only thing that isn't complete in that recipe is that I didn't explain how heat is the reason for the tri-chrome bonds breaking and fat is what they attach to. Delta-9-THC vaporizes quickly into 11-hydroxy-THC when smoked, but some is lost the longer and hotter the burn as O2 is added. When introduced into a suspension (butter) and digested via the liver the effects are more pronounced.

Here's a chart of smoking versus eating (minus the heat, fat) that I got form this useful forum thread.

Try it and let me know what you believe to be the case. It can also be made into an oil which can go onto salads or into other foods with as strong an effect. This is particularly useful for avoiding the stench of burning weed and the possible harm to the lungs from smoke inhalation.

Tetrahydrocannabinol
Main article: Tetrahydrocannabinol
Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is the primary psychoactive component of the plant. Medically, it appears to ease moderate pain (analgetic) and to be neuroprotective. THC has approximately equal affinity for the CB1 and CB2 receptors.[5] Its effects are perceived to be more cerebral.[citation needed]

delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ9-THC, THC) and delta-8-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ8-THC), mimic the action of anandamide, a neurotransmitter produced naturally in the body. The THCs produce the high associated with cannabis by binding to the CB1 cannabinoid receptors in the brain.

11-Hydroxy-THC
11-Hydroxy-Δ9-
tetrahydrocannabinol (11-OH-THC) is the main active metabolite of THC which is formed in the body after cannabis is smoked[1]. 11-hydroxy-THC has been shown to be active in its own right[2], but the effects produced are not necessarily identical to those of THC[3]; it is plausible that the biphasic action of cannabis might be explained by the action of the active metabolite of THC rather than by other compounds present in the plant such as cannabidiol, so that 11-hydroxy-THC might be responsible for causing certain effects such as sleepiness and increased appetite which are characteristically delayed and occur as the initial "high" is wearing off.

11-hydroxy-THC is subsequently metabolised further to 11-carboxy-THC, which is not psychoactive but may still play a role in the analgesic and anti-inflammatory effects of cannabis.

I also found these interesting, but above me and not as directly useful. They do consistently describe the tri-chrome bonding to fatty acids.

Molecular structure and analysis method.
Tetrahydrocannibinol has 4 hydrogens added to cannibinol leaving one double bond at the 'delta 9' position. The 'delta' nomenclature indicates which C-C bond has the unsaturation. I have seen this used in unsaturated fatty acids. For example, oleic acid is referred to as the 'cis delta-9' compound of the 'C18:1' fatty acid. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Fatty_acid)

A pilot clinical study of Delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol in patients with recurrent glioblastoma multiforme
This is not only the first clinical study to assess cannabinoid antitumoral action but also the first human study in which a cannabinoid is administered intracranially. This route of administration was used to mimic our preclinical studies in rodents (Galve-Roperh et al, 2000) and has been previously used for the delivery of other cytotoxic drugs such as carmustine to patients with malignant brain tumours (Brem et al, 1995). Nonetheless, we note that a non-invasive, less traumatic (e.g. oral) route would be more desirable in the clinical practice. Although intratumoral delivery may allow a high local concentration of the drug in situ, in the case of large tumours such as those treated in the present study, the local perfusion through a catheter placed at one point of the tumour constitutes an obvious limitation of the technique. Further studies should assess the distribution pattern of the THC solution within the tumour as well as within the whole brain.

Owing to the characteristics of this study the effect of THC on patient survival was unclear, and an evaluation of survival would require a larger trial with a different design. In this context, pilot placebo-controlled trials for recurrent glioblastoma multiforme with temozolomide, the current benchmark for the management of malignant gliomas, showed a slight impact on overall length of survival (median survival=24 weeks; 6-month survival=4660%) (Dinnes et al, 2002; Nagasubramanian and Dolan, 2003). Likewise, the efficacy of a biodegradable polymer impregnated with carmustine was evaluated in patients with recurrent high-grade gliomas requiring re-operation (Brem et al, 1995). The median survival was 31 weeks, but it should be noted that in that study one-third of the treated patients had tumours with better prognosis than glioblastoma multiforme, for example, oligodendrogliomas and anaplastic astrocytomas. Recurrent glioblastoma multiforme is an extremely rapid and lethal disease, and trials in newly diagnosed tumours have allowed a clear improvement in the therapeutic efficacy of temozolomide and carmustine through the development of various administration regimes (Lonardi et al, 2005; Stupp et al, 2005; Reardon et al, 2006). It is therefore conceivable that better outcomes could also be obtained with cannabinoid-based therapies in newly diagnosed gliomas.

"I like simple pleasures, like butter in my ass, lollipops in my mouth. That's just me. That's just something that I enjoy."
#46 | Posted by redlightrobot

Better than lollipops in your ass, I suppose.
I imagine those suckers might get a little too sticky and hard to yank out?
#48 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-10-04 12:36 AM

It's a disturbing quote from Boogie Nights - probably my favorite movie. The opening sequence and the loooong shot is so beautifully done, I can't think of anything quite as good. The actors are perfect, the casting is perfect, clothes, music, lighting and shots are all perfect. The story is a bit risque, but quite fun.

Redlightrobot -

I hadn't ever seen "Boogie Nights" although I'd heard of it. Was this movie about the porn industry here in the San Fernando Valley (CA) in my neck of the woods?

Couldn't believe when I read a few years ago the suburbs in the SFV were also famous for being the major producer of porn in the U.S. It's such a contrast as most of the neighborhoods here in the SFV are right out of "Ozzie and Harriet."

Neighbors used to get up in arms because little kids would be on their way to school and some nondescript house on the same street would have sleezy dressed porno stars going in and out of the front door of some home on the same street in order to shoot some porn movie inside the house.

The last time the bride & I were in Vegas, the day we left we knew something was up: we'd never seen so many guys who looked greasy or gals who looked plastic.

It turned out they were all coming into town for the AVN Awards.

Redlightrobot --

With you giving Boogie Nightts such a good review and Imdb giving it a 7 star rating I'll be sure and check it out. I also like Burt Reynolds and haven't seen him in a movie in awhile.

Redlightrobot --
With you giving Boogie Nightts such a good review and Imdb giving it a 7 star rating I'll be sure and check it out. I also like Burt Reynolds and haven't seen him in a movie in awhile.
#57 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-10-04 02:00 AM

It's really about the end of the 70's porn film industry, back when pornographic film were more movie than the smut of today. As a generational film it uses a clever set of good people going through their personal tribulations. Don Cheadle is an incredibly funny actor in the heydays of 8-track cassette - if I were black I would have already dressed as his character Buck for Halloween. If you like late 70's music - it's got the motherload.

Not for children or anyone offended by sexual activity with simultaneous drug abuse on screen as every scene is heavily laden. That said, Julianne Moore and Heather Graham perform so beautifully I can't decide whom I like better. Remember to let me know what you think.

The last time the bride & I were in Vegas, the day we left we knew something was up: we'd never seen so many guys who looked greasy or gals who looked plastic.
It turned out they were all coming into town for the AVN Awards.
#56 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-04 01:58 AM

Heh, the movie covers them also.. that's from where I got that quote.;]

Porn people are generally really, really good folk - film tends to depict them as art imitating art imitating life. That's a mouthful right there.

nullifidian - I just noticed that chart is from 1980! Todays bud prolly flies off that chart in terms of effect potency.

It turned out they were all coming into town for the AVN Awards.

Is the best week to be in Vegas, IMHO.

1. You can still bet on football.

2. There is TNA EVERYWHERE! yeah, more than usual.

3. You can go to CES during the day and check out all the latest and greatest techie toys.

If you actually go to the AVN's, it is just sensory overload! ;)

I'll take that job! ... But, I wonder...does it have a good health insurance plan?

Shhh, Goat, don't tell anyone. But it's been rumored Nulli is the world expert on every type of Thai stick ever smoked on every Navy tour conducted throughout the 1970s.

#51 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-10-04 12:47 AM | Reply | Flag: Stands By Her Man

#63 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-10-04 02:24 PM | Reply | Flag: Catfight in the making

"#51 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-10-04 12:47 AM | Reply | Flag: Stands By Her Man"

"#63 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-10-04 02:24 PM | Reply | Flag: Catfight in the making"

#64 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-04 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag: Turned on!

#64 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-04 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag: Turned on!

Wouldn't you be to have two women fighting over you?

Hmmm. Goatman is fantasizing that I'm a woman? Under his logic, that means he's sexually attracted to me. I just threw up in my mouth.

Under his logic,...

Ah, but nice try m'boor. When you questioned my logic about you being sexually attracted to me because of all the comments you made about what I looked like, I said that if you made such references to me a few times, not big deal. Then I went on to say that if it went on for over a year (as it has with you) it was clearly a sexual attraction.

I made one. So if you are going to use my logic, please use it accurately and don't change it to fit your fantasy world.

"Reconstituted into magic butter will enhance the euphoric effect 3-4 times, basically tripling the quantity that would normally be smoked. "

What are you talking about? That's nonsense. You need more, not less, cannabis when using it in an edible form such as cannabis butter.
#42 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-10-03 11:04 PM

After this batch of butter I just made I will have to admit that it doesn't at all seem as strong. Perhaps on food isn't as useful if the digestion is interfered with. I've got two lab rats who agree.

However, the gentle buzz lasts quite for quite a bit. And this was primo shit from a local. I'm afraid the butter is FAIL after all.

I would appear that you were right.

"So if you are going to use my logic, please use it accurately and don't change it to fit your fantasy world.

#68 | Posted by goatman"

Just admit it, Tweedle. You know you're in a safe place here.

Just admit it, Tweedle. You know you're in a safe place here

So you need yet another "admission" from me to make your sexual fantasies about me complete? Whatever you want m'boor. What is it this time you need me to be? Is it the cabin boy thing again? You seemed to realliy get off on that one. *sigh* Or do you want me to pretend I've got an altar boy smock?

Aren't there any real, live men where you are that would satisfy your needs better than making me your cyber fantasy whore?

1. Crush up one cup of buds (exclude stems) - a food processor is best.
2. Low boil a saucepan or pot of water.
3. Add 1 pound of real butter - margarine probably won't work. Let me know if you do.
4. Once melted, add your green and continue low boil for up to 30 minutes. The butter will turn green.
5. Cover a bowl in cheesecloth and pour the magic butter through, catching as much of the green as possible.
6. Using tongs squeeze out the cheesecloth to extract as much as possible. The remaining green and cheesecloth can be thrown away or used in milk or cocoa.
7. Once cool enough, place the bowl in the freezer or the fridge until the butter has separated.
8. Put the magic butter in a container. The water is probably not useful, as THC is not water soluble and will rise into the butter.
9. Spread your buns and apply liberally, dude.:]

Or you could just (1) Put your weed in a glass hitter, and (2) Smoke it.

Joe eats frozen cookie dough right from the package!

Aren't there any real, live men where you are?

#71 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-05 03:24 PM | Reply | Flag: Tweedle's Cruising Again