You'll get your vaccine whether you like it or not.

Nope. We'll just get the drug-resistant strain of the flu. Fun.

Sounds like the newest CDC/NIH promotional trailer for the next purported 'disaster' they will need billions of taxdollars to 'fight' while drug companies get billions more to 'respond' to.....when are people going to wake up to the science/medicine hoax con artists?

Excreted Tamiflu Found in Rivers

Must've gotten it from a cup of that civet cat shat coffee.
~Joan Rivers

civet cat shat coffee.

That's some good shit. I was surprised.

A friend and I split the cost of 200 grams of it -- $60! -- a couple of months ago.

But fuck that stuff was a lot better than I thought it would be. To bad that at that price it is probably a once in a lifetime purchase

I wish more people knew about this. That way when I fart I can just say "Tamiflu"

Nope. We'll just get the drug-resistant strain of the flu. Fun.

Probably not from this little of it. The techniques for detecting this stuff are good enough that they can sense biologically insignificant amounts of chemicals.

The Tamiflu in the waterways is a symptom of a greater problem - overprescription. We will get drug resistant strains of the flu from doctors and governments passing out Tamiflu like candy, which is happening now.

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#7 | Posted by Bani at 2009-10-03 07:28 PM

My neighbor has a dog with an obvious tumor and if this gives him a couple more months that's wonderful. I'll see what she says.

On topic: nobody knows how many ppm Tamiflu would effect small fish and birds so I don't care if ZombieHunter thinks it's candy corn - this is alarming. Also, why aren't the pharmaceutical factories waste tested on site?! How many years has this bullshit of dumping into waterways been allowed to continue by the Committee On Energy And Commerce? Even the Army has been doing it. Reagan had it half-right - trust no-one and always verify how much they have lied.

nobody knows how many ppm Tamiflu would effect small fish and birds so I don't care if ZombieHunter thinks it's candy corn - this is alarming.

What exactly do you think it will do to fish and birds? It's a specific inhibitor of a viral enzyme.

And yes, I'm sure somewhere the data exists on what the concentration of the drug must be to be effective.

What exactly do you think it will do to fish and birds? It's a specific inhibitor of a viral enzyme.

And yes, I'm sure somewhere the data exists on what the concentration of the drug must be to be effective.

Oh yea, I'm sure the data doesn't exist. Fish flush water through their gills all day. It's a cumulative effect. Birds eat the fish and their eggs. That's a cumulative effect. Birds move around and so do fish. There is no way in hell to get a trustworthy data set.

One thing is for certain, eventually some mutate that will cause a pandemic will be the end result from one drug or another. It's not a matter of if, but when. Cheers.

Oh yea, I'm sure the data doesn't exist. Fish flush water through their gills all day. It's a cumulative effect. Birds eat the fish and their eggs. That's a cumulative effect. Birds move around and so do fish. There is no way in hell to get a trustworthy data set.

LOL you're gonna need a whole lot of linkage to support that.

Show the evidence that tamiflu is absorbed by tissue and remains in active form for an extended period of time. Show that that time is long enough for concentrations to reach the point where it can be passed up the foodchain in any significant amount.

My guess is you can't because much like humans, animals probably piss most of it out.

One thing is for certain, eventually some mutate that will cause a pandemic will be the end result from one drug or another.

Which will more than likely result from the same problem that causes high concentrations of tamiflu in waste water-over use and secretion by humans.

crazy, our solution exacerbates the problem

"nobody knows how many ppm Tamiflu would effect small fish and birds so I don't care if ZombieHunter thinks it's candy corn - this is alarming."

What exactly do you think it will do to fish and birds? It's a specific inhibitor of a viral enzyme.
And yes, I'm sure somewhere the data exists on what the concentration of the drug must be to be effective.
#10 | Posted by jpw at 2009-10-03 10:46 PM

Until generational studies are performed it's an unknown, but a significantly large one as processing via animals is commonplace with waste medications.

Since you generally don't use fish or birds for endocrinology I wouldn't presume that the effects on those animals will display the same results as dogs, cats or humans.

Let's also be frank - zero medical waste should be present, but too many pharmaceutical factories are not monitored or take the correct precautions. That responsibility should lay squarely on the regulatory committees and their ilk, rather than people developing mysterious side-effects and the animals going extinct.

80,000 chemicals must be proven dangerous to be taken off US markets and even then maybe they won't.

the same chemicals must be proven safe before they can be marketed in europe.

its a giant cancer machine

Better living through chemicals

Sounds like the newest CDC/NIH promotional trailer for the next purported 'disaster' they will need billions of taxdollars to 'fight' while drug companies get billions more to 'respond' to.....when are people going to wake up to the science/medicine hoax con artists?

Well, we could remove the profit motive and just focus on delivering health care, but you fight against that tooth and nail, Diablo.

I'm awake, what sort of fix did you have in mind?

Well, this is why the companies make the big bucks, they don't care about the long term over short term profit.

And most people think the companies are interested in healthcare.