Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, September 29, 2009

Quetta is a provincial capital of Pakistan. Mullah Mohammad Omar is supposed to be there. Current news though, indicates that he is somewhere in the South Afghanistan countryside, or just south of it in Baloch territory bordering the Durand Line. This region is Pakistan proper and Pakistani law fully applies. There was once belief that Americans could never bomb parts of FATA or NWFP. But a few "accidental" bombs, followed by a concerted effort to use moments of political instability in Pakistan to drop more bombs, "worked the metal" of Pakistani political resolve to allow a regular drone campaign to begin in FATA. If the Americans drop any bombs in Balochistan, they will have to be asked to withdraw from the region entirely.

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Bombs for Peace

Obama said he would have no problem bombing our allies like Pakistan and kissing the butts or our enemies.

How did right wing nuts get so stupid? Intelligence isn't their strong suit.

Woof woof.. bark bark....

As we say in Urdu... "barking dogs don't bite".

As for the writer of that story....

That is Christina Lamb... and she has a long history of writing crap against Pakistan, since we tied her to a wheelchair with duct tape and pushed her onto a plane for England... forced deportation.

She had purchased a plane ticket in the name "Osama bin Ladin" and was going to catch a flight using that ticket but was caught.

She insisted it was a "joke", but we didn't share that opinion and she was sent home.

So she is one bitter lady. LOL

Don't take anything she writes too seriously.

I want the United States to attack Al Gebra, It's a growing threat to the minds of our young.

Larry

Christina Lamb

Dude, the one I posted is the original. This is a variant. But yeah - I read the bitch's book "Waiting For Allah". I found "Breaking Curfew" to be better. Emma Duncan was straight up honest about her feelings for the country and whilst Lamb sounded like a whiny, cultural-shocked bitch, trying to pretend she wasn't.

Al Gebra

Did you know that it actually IS an Arab invention?

And resusltantly, you got the name for algebra right:

l-Gebra

Two Points for LarryKingMower

Don't talk about it, do it.

"Rehman Malik, Pakistan's interior minister, said the US had so far been unable to provide detailed intelligence to target the Quetta Shura. He said: "We need real-time intelligence. The Americans have never told us any location.""

It's YOUR country, you moron. You should be able to get it.

Tosser tells us all the time how good Paki intel is.

It's about time we told the inept Paki forces that if they can't or won't do it, we will.

We should bomb the hell out of it and let Pakistan take the credit as a face saving measure for them.

Dude, the one I posted is the original.

Oh....


But yeah - I read the bitch's book "Waiting For Allah". I found "Breaking Curfew" to be better. Emma Duncan was straight up honest about her feelings for the country and whilst Lamb sounded like a whiny, cultural-shocked bitch, trying to pretend she wasn't.


I was disgusted by her book, swear. She complains too much and then she invents a "fact".

t's about time we told .... if they can't or won't do it, we will.


You have been saying THAT for the last 8 years... and still not doing anything. hahahahahahaha

So excuse my disbelief.


the inept Paki forces


Pakistan's "inept" forces finished the taliban in and around Swat in 2 months.

US can't do shit to the taliban since last 8 years. LOL

US can't do shit to the taliban since last 8 years. LOL

You pleading for help isn't our problem. You accept the leaders you have, not the ones you wish for.

You pleading for help isn't our problem


??? huh ???

I repeat for the slow-minded...

US hasn't done shit to the taliban since last 8 years. LOL

Instead, they are stronger as ever and are taking over more areas in Afghanistan.

It's YOUR country, you moron. You should be able to get it.


Not when it is a figment of your imagination.



Tosser tells us all the time how good Paki intel is.


It is the best. The CIA depends on whatever crap we decide to feed you. LOL

US hasn't done shit to the taliban since last 8 years. LOL

No shit... tends to happen when you get sidetracked fighting one completely irrelevant war and another that has been neglected.

US hasn't done shit to the taliban since last 8 years. LOL

You imply that they are trying!

You imply that they are trying!


Funnywar, sometimes in your haste to appear sane, you appear insane.

Yes, the US has tried and failed over and over again. And the afghan-taliban still take more of Afghanistan.

tends to happen when you get sidetracked fighting one completely irrelevant war and another that has been neglected.


Well, even if there had been no Iraq, you still couldn't take Afghanistan.

But if you still insist, now is your chance.... go full force on the Afghan front.

I would also love to see how far you reach in getting a positive result. LOL

We'd be fighting a very different kind of war (not that we aren't already doing just that in Afghanistan) by attacking Pakistan.

Just like how the British Redcoats floundered against the atypical fighting style of the American rebels, who knew the terrain better.

Time to suck up our so-called "dignity" and withdraw. Time to stop playing the world's police force. Time to stop garrisoning the globe. Etc, etc, etc...

Time to attend to our own affairs, instead of telling everyone else that their shit stinks.

Unfortunately, I think that the "revelation" of this past weekend - that Iran has another nuclear refinery, which has been "on the radar" (so-to-speak) for years - is part of the drum-beat for further escalating a regional war.

How I'd love to be proven wrong.

But, we're a warlike people, and I doubt we'll be backing down from a good conflict in the making!

Especially if we get to bomb some more brown people...

We're a warlike people. We can't stand not to be fucking with someone. We couldn't wait for the Cold War to end so we could climb into the big Arab sandbox and play with our nice new toys. We enjoy war.

And one reason we enjoy it is that we're good at it. You know why we're good at it? Because we get alot of practice. This country is only 200 years old, and already we've had ten major wars. We average a major war every twenty years, So we're good at it!

And it's just as well we are, because we're not very good at anything else. Can't build a decent car anymore. Can't make a TV set, a cell phone, or a VCR. Got no steel industry left. No textiles. Can't educate our young people. Can't get health care to our old people. But we can bomb the shit outta your country, all right. We can bomb the shit outta your country!

If You're Brown, You're Goin Down

Especially if your country is full of brown people. Oh, we like that, don't we? That's our hobby now. But it's also our new job in the world: bombing brown people. Iraq, Panama, Grenada, Libya. You got some brown people in your country? Tell 'em to watch the fuck out, or we'll goddamn bomb them!

Well, who were the last white people you can remember that we bombed? In fact, can you remember any white people we ever bombed? The Germans! That's it! Those are the only ones. And that was only because they were tryin' to cut in on our action. They wanted to dominate the world.

Bullshit! That's our job. That's our fuckin' job!


~George Carlin, taken from a skit in the early 90s. How prescient.

@ Zarathustra

Thank you for those words. I must mention that what you say is considered radical. There is good news though; let me inform you (and Tosser, too) that the old Communist Afghan Government did not collapse until the Soviet Bloc that supplied them collapsed. Only then did they break down. Regardless of what you might say about your financial system, you guys are in no way near a Soviet Union style collapse. However if you withdraw; you can keep sending money to Afghanistan and Iran and Pakistan will keep the peace. India will have to be persuaded to not be a dick, whilst Russia will have to understand that it does not have the same leverage in Afghanistan that it once did. As for China; some reports say that it is the largest investor in all of Afghanistan. So go ahead and do what you think is right; my estimation is that the new Kabul government will not necessarily fall unless money stops flowing to it. Keep the presses running, and I think the ANA of Bismillah Khan is not the DRA of Abdul Rashid Dostum.

@ Moneywar's "Sanity"

Here's the thing about our bogus aeronautical engineer. He first gives himself intellectual airs by declaring the Asia Times as one of his main source of information. After we say a few things against his crypto-racist rag, he descends into open racism, faux-derision and lying. And he lies and he lies; and he keeps at the racism ad nauseum.

What we have is an intellectual midget who has failed at masking his prejudices. And once his prejudices are exposed; he takes pride in wallowing in them. Thats all that he sadly has anyway.

Zara; you're over quoting a lot of comedians.

A backhanded reference here and there is ok, but if you keep tossing entire extracts from Bill Hicks and George Carlin at us, thats not very, very original.

Here's the thing about our bogus aeronautical engineer. He first gives himself intellectual airs by declaring the Asia Times as one of his main source of information. After we say a few things against his crypto-racist rag, he descends into open racism, faux-derision and lying. And he lies and he lies; and he keeps at the racism ad nauseum.

What we have is an intellectual midget who has failed at masking his prejudices. And once his prejudices are exposed; he takes pride in wallowing in them. Thats all that he sadly has anyway.


Exactly.

Before he got hit in the face by Pakistan's finest he fancied himself as a lady charmer. LOL

Apart from that skill which he thinks he possesses (he doesn't), really, I have never noticed Funnywar saying anything of substance about anything.

I think we can put him in the same category as Jackass... the bullshit category.

Oh and to repair his injured ego, he has taken on a new name.. "longwarview" or something and has opened up two bullshit threads on Pakistan already. LOL

While trying to appear he knows "news", he has stupidly connected himself to a US Govt. supported website, where only one guy writes the news on topics like Pakistan. LOL

US hasn't done shit to the taliban since last 8 years. LOL
.....#12 | Posted by Tosser

.....the Taliban used to be the government of Afghanistan......

.......they have been deminished greatly......

.....the Taliban used to be the government of Afghanistan......


A small blip in Afghan history.

When they were the defacto Govt, they had control of 80% of Afghanistan.

Right now, they have control of 75% and climbing... they just aren't sitting in Kabul, is all.

Not much difference if you look at it certain ways.

skizziks is a "glass full" type of person.... even if the glass was broken he'd be licking the wet shards and telling ya how his thirst is still being sated....

Don't take anything she writes too seriously.

#5 | Posted by Tosser


OK! Much like we take your anti-American ramblings?

Tosser still thinks his borders have magical (nuclear powered?) shields that will stop America from pursuing the Taliban into Pakistan.

I told you before it is only a matter of time before the US military gets frustrated with your country. The way I see it we can leave Afghanistan to it's destiny and live to fight the Taliban another day on a another battle field (not the ideal choice)or pursue these creeps to the bitter end.

The bitter end is in Pakistan.

"A small blip in Afghan history."

In much the same manner as Pakistan is a small blip in India's history.

Obama said he would have no problem bombing our allies like Pakistan and kissing the butts or our enemies.

#2 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-09-28 09:57 PM | Reply | Flag:skanky says, so it is.

Tosser still thinks his borders have magical (nuclear powered?) shields that will stop America from pursuing the Taliban into Pakistan.


Oh, I do.

American can't do shit.

The "hot pursuit" option is off the table.


I told you before it is only a matter of time before the US military gets frustrated with your country.


You can "tell me" whatever you think. It hasn't counted for much, has it? LOL

US has been frustrated with Pakistan from day 1.

It's been over 8 years now... they are still frustrated? LOL

The bitter end is in Pakistan.

"Ah... if only wishes were pennies, I would be a rich man". LOL

n much the same manner as Pakistan is a small blip in India's history.


The Indian-Subcontinent has a long history with a zillion name changes along the way.

However the history between the two lands, "sapta sindhu" (Pakistan) and "bharat varta" (India), is more than 5000 years old.

Ignorant-Amreeki. LOL


Obama said he would have no problem bombing our allies like Pakistan and kissing the butts or our enemies.

#2 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-09-28 09:57 PM | Reply | Flag: Just plain Fucking Stupid.

However the history between the two lands, "sapta sindhu" (Pakistan) and "bharat varta" (India), is more than 5000 years old.
.......#33 | Posted by Tosser

....."bharat varta" means "house".......

......"sapta sindhu" means "out-house"......

....."bharat varta" means "house".......

......"sapta sindhu" means "out-house"......


Translation:

...... I..... have.... forgotten......... to..... take....... my....... medication.........

Oh, I do.

American can't do shit.

The "hot pursuit" option is off the table.


I told you before it is only a matter of time before the US military gets frustrated with your country.


You can "tell me" whatever you think. It hasn't counted for much, has it? LOL

Well not to you as you are in denial. Hot pursuit is off your table but not America's. No country is safe if they are harboring Terrorists. I believe that is part of the Bush Doctrine. "..the United States has the right to secure itself from countries that harbor or give aid to terrorist groups,..."

He who laughs last friend didn't get the joke. And actually I have been pretty accurate so far as to the course this war (actually both wars) have taken. And only time will tell on whether the US Military breeches your porous borders and pisses you off so that you jump up and down and shake your fists at those "helpless Americans". In the end America will do what it has to do. So you think you can actually use a nuclear weapon just because you have em? Yeah... that will work our well for you. Think it thru and you will see they are almost worthless as sending you personally to stop the Americans if they decide to pursue the Taliban into Pakistan.

So go ahead and think what you think. Believe what you have to and bluster all you can.

And then we shall see what we shall see when the "bitter end" arrives!

Your Sanskrit lesson for today:

Bharat-Varta = land of the sons of Bharat (a great king at the time)

Sapta-Sindhu = land of the 7 rivers

Amazingly the boundaries of the two nations 5000 years ago were about the same as those of India and Pak today.

Hot pursuit is off your table but not America's.


It's off the table. Period.


And actually I have been pretty accurate so far as to the course this war (actually both wars) have taken


Nope. Not at all.

I predicted the US is going to take a nose dive in Afghanistan and here we are. LOL


you jump up and down and shake your fists


Like you are doing right now? LOL

Let's hope not! You look silly.


In the end America will do what it has to do.


Yeah. Fold up and cry like a little girl. LOL


So you think you can actually use a nuclear weapon just because you have em?


Can you? (nope)


Americans if they decide to pursue the Taliban into Pakistan.


It took you 8 years to decide?

Some decision making skillz you have! LOL


And then we shall see what we shall see when the "bitter end" arrives!


Who knows what tomorrow brings? People can get squished by a bus when crossing the street... anything can happen.

However, right now, you are the bitter one. LOL

Firstly, as much as it annoys Tosser to acknowledge, the Taliban is not nearly as powerful in Afghanistan today as they were eight years. Which is not to say that they are not powerful. Clearly they still have a good deal of popular support in vast areas of that country. But given the power shift in Kabul, and the intimidating presence of American troops, only a fool would assert that currently the Taliban enjoys the same degree of power. (Which is in part why they were so eager to move into regions of Pakistan.)

Secondly, the U.S. should confer very closely with our allies in Pakistan prior to engaging in bombing raids. Obviously we have not, and will not, give the Pakistani government veto power if we feel action is necessary. But in so far as possible, it is in everyone's best interest that we play nice with each other. Lord knows the Pakistani leadership doesn't wish to risk losing it's bribe by raising too big a fuss to anything the U.S. decides to do.

Obviously we have not, and will not, give the Pakistani government veto power if we feel action is necessary.


You have no choice, I'm afraid. Defacto veto power is what it is.

And how can you take action on any intel when it is the ISI that supplies all you intel in the first place! LOL


Lord knows the Pakistani leadership doesn't wish to risk losing it's bribe by raising too big a fuss to anything the U.S. decides to do.


Oh, it is not afraid of the US not paying them a bribe.

It is far far more afraid of it's being overthrown.

Everyone knows, we can change Govts. pretty suddenly. LOL

If the US bombs Quetta.... the Pakistani Govt. will be replaced the next day (as it can't happen without their support) and then American soldiers will have 2 weeks to pack their bags and get out of Afghanistan.

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

In fact I would be happy if this Govt. goes to hell. They are a bit useless.

the Taliban is not nearly as powerful in Afghanistan today as they were eight years. Which is not to say that they are not powerful. Clearly they still have a good deal of popular support


You don't get it.

Look at their rate of rising. Their acceleration.

It's faster than the first time they came to power. That ought to worry you.

It's faster than the first time they came to power. That ought to worry you.

#43 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-09-29 04:37 PM

Yeah the last Taliban Gov. went down to a handful of Northern Alliances.

It's off the table. Period.

so says General Tosser! how quaint.

Like you are doing right now? LOL

Let's hope not! You look silly.

err what? hey! watch out for that drone! Who looks silly?

Yeah. Fold up and cry like a little girl. LOL

ouch! you big meany! yeah Like I have to watch out for drones where I live. remember...he who LOLs last!

It took you 8 years to decide?

Some decision making skillz you have! LOL

don't know much about America do you? Took us 8 years to regain our senses destroy the Rethugs and retake our country (without firing a shot! You should try it sometime).


However, right now, you are the bitter one. LOL

OY! how silly you are indeed. I live in California. Humboldt County. On the Lost Coast. The way I like it. I am going to the beach and walk my dog and play in the dunes. There won't be any Taliban nor drones anywhere in sight. In fact I probably won't see anyone. I won't need to carry a gun either. No...Not bitter at all. If anything I worry for you and your country. And I worry for the men and women of both our countries that have to fight the goons coming from your country and Afghanistan.


Packer-Stains go after the Taliban Old School:

Kill 'em all & let Allah sort them out!

The US - especially 0bama (Jimmy Carter Johnson) - does not have the nerve...

Fight nice, please.

don't know much about America do you? Took us 8 years to regain our senses destroy the Rethugs and retake our country (without firing a shot! You should try it sometime).



So who would be Moe, Larry and Curly running the country? I guess Obama would be Moe, Pelosi Larry, and Reid? Well he ain't Curly material. I guess that makes him Shemp?

Just curious who the repubs shot when they regained power?

Did Obama fuck up and think they where in the running for the 2014 Summer Olympics?

"And how can you take action on any intel when it is the ISI that supplies all you intel in the first place! LOL"

Then why in the hell is your interior minister crying about it?

LOL indeed.

"Rehman Malik, Pakistan's interior minister, said the US had so far been unable to provide detailed intelligence to target the Quetta Shura. He said: "We need real-time intelligence. The Americans have never told us any location.""

Yeah the last Taliban Gov. went down to a handful of Northern Alliances.


Oh it was rather more than that.


hey! watch out for that drone! Who looks silly?


You do. You look silly.

Why jump over something that hasn't happened? LOL

Are you mental?

Like I have to watch out for drones where I live


Neither do I.


don't know much about America do you? Took us 8 years to regain our senses


I know much about America. And your troubles are just starting., you poor fellow.


and retake our country (without firing a shot!


Just like your country was first taken over (Bush and stolen election)? Without firing a shot? LOL


I live in California. Humboldt County. On the Lost Coast. The way I like it.


Well, I don't know why you are telling me about your living ways.... unless you are trying to tell everyone "hey look at me I'm NOT bitter!".

LOL... If you are not bitter, then stop crying like a little girl and stop shaking your fists in the air at Pakistan and at me. It won't get you anywhere.

Then why in the hell is your interior minister crying about it?


1. He is out of the loop when it comes to ISI to CIA intel.

2. It's his job to have some drama. He IS a politician. (that's what politicians do... I am sure you are not THAT stupid)


US had so far been unable to provide detailed intelligence to target the Quetta Shura. He said: "We need real-time intelligence. The Americans have never told us any location.""


He is right.

What he is politely saying is this:

"we all know this is a figment of your fevered American imagination. If you think you are right, tell us where these meetings take place. Or else shut up"

Basically he said "put up or shut up."

I worry for you and your country. And I worry for the men and women of both our countries that have to fight the goons


The bad guys in Pakistan will be taken care of, surely, slowly, steadily, permanently. Not to worry. We have proven we can do it far better than the US can.

The bad guys in Afghanistan... THEY are YOUR job. Nothing to do with Pakistan, I'm afraid.

To argue the fine points, the US kicked the TB's balls out from between their legs within 90 days of putting boots on ground... unfortunately that decisive victory was negated by the "Big Boys" and politicians getting involved.

Today the rules are made by international council, NATO and diplomats. The only way to get ahead is to identify, track and eliminate the heads of the snake then allow the LOCAL government (read valley by valley) to determine their path. We will NOT like what they come up with, but it isn't our gig. As long as there aren't any WMD's heading our way why should we really care?

And as far as the Paki intell community goes, I wouldn't tell them where to find a donkey if I didn't want the donkey end up toting a load of TB RPG rounds; they're considered a bit "porous"...

the US kicked the TB's balls out from between their legs within 90 days of putting boots on ground

It now appears, they were not beaten back... they themselves decided on a tactical retreat.

They just melted into the population... bidding their time until the time was right to come back in force.

They trapped you.


then allow the LOCAL government (read valley by valley) to determine their path.


So you just admitted that there is no hope for centralized strong Govt. in Afghanistan. LOL

That is what happens if you get a druglord like Karazai as President.

According to the Washington Post, the U.S. government says the Taliban have "a new haven in Pakistan," namely, the city of Quetta in Baluchistan province.

This a lie.

Quetta is not a "new haven" for the Taliban. Mullah Omar and the Taliban's high command have been based there for years. Moreover, their presence has been an open secret in the region as is the fact that Mullah Omar and his men could not be there without the tacit agreement of the Pakistani state, and in particular the ISI intelligence agency.

The real mystery is why, even as Mullah Omar and the Taliban's "Quetta Shura" ordered attack after attack on coalition forces across the border in Afghanistan, the American and British governments said and did nothing about Pakistan's provision of an open sanctuary for the Taliban in its third-largest city.

(The mainstream media were no better. Much American reporting from Pakistan is ignorant or pathetically dependent on the opinions of Ahmed Rashid and a few other local experts who have their own agendas and reasons for protecting some of Pakistan's dirtier secrets.)

It is remotely possible that they did not know for sure that Omar and Co. were hiding in Quetta. After all, Pakistani officials have ritually denied it, and presumably they have refused permission for American intelligence-gathering in Quetta (which is the home of Pakistan's military academy). And it's worth remembering that American officials and journalists alike have a tendency to become astonishingly credulous upon arriving within Pakistani airspace. (Read David Ignatius's column in today's Washington Post for a tragicomic example.) This is especially true if said Americans are from the generation that came to Pakistan during the anti-Soviet war and developed passionate affection for the country and its military.

However, Indian experts argue that there is no way that U.S. intelligence was unaware of Omar's longtime presence (or al-Qaeda's presence) in Quetta. They say the CIA has tacitly accepted Omar's presence and kept it secret notably forbearing to use drones in Quetta perhaps thinking that such restraint might make future negotiations easier. (Some Indian experts even claim that the Taliban are under CIA protection as much as ISI protection, though this presumably reflects traditional Indian paranoia about American aims in the region.)

You might ask why the Pakistani state would tolerate the Taliban's presence in the camps outside Quetta and within the city itself (Mullah Omar has been called "the mayor of Quetta"), given the tension this could cause with the U.S. and the U.S.-led coalition in Afghanistan. After all, those elements in the ISI and other parts of the Pakistani military who helped the Taliban take over Afghanistan, and who continue to see the ongoing PakistanTaliban alliance as a valuable strategic asset, could maintain the relationship without giving Omar such an obvious and outrageous sanctuary.

The explanation for Pakistan's decision lies in the country's internal stresses and Quetta's ethnic makeup. Quetta is the capital of Baluchistan, Pakistan's largest province. As in neighboring Iran, the Baluchi tribes resent rule by central government, and Baluchistan has been the locus of several bloody revolts (in 1948, 1958, 196369, and 197377) against central-government rule. (These revolts are of course blamed almost entirely on India, which almost certainly has aided Baluchi rebels in retaliation for Pakistani sponsorship of insurgents in Kashmir and terrorists in other parts of India.)

Baluchi revolts have been suppressed by the Pakistani armed forces with a thoroughness and ruthlessness that might surprise anyone who witnessed their efforts in the NorthWest Frontier and even in Swat. During the reign of Bhutto pre, a favorite of foreign liberals, Iranian-supplied helicopter gunships were used to murderous effect against the Baluchi tribes.

Pakistan is absolutely determined to keep Baluchi separatism down, not least because the province is rich in resources, with vast reserves of copper, and because Pakistan has persuaded its Chinese ally to build a huge new deep-water port at Gwadar. The Pashtuns of the province have generally opposed the idea of Baluchi independence. For this reason, Islamabad may be happy to further dilute the population of Baluchistan with Pashtuns, such as the Afghan refugees in the camps and Mullah Omar's troops.

Too often in the past, U.S. officials have failed to understand that such domestic imperatives and Pakistan's ongoing obsession with India are the things that really determine Islamabad's relationship with the Taliban. However, the briefings that the U.S. government has given to the Washington Post, announcing the "new haven" in Quetta, may be an encouraging signal that something is changing in Washington's approach to Pakistan. Dropping the pretense that we know nothing of Mullah Omar's safe haven in Quetta could even mean that the new "Af-Pak" strategy outlined by General McCrystal is already being adopted, at least in part, and that the old disingenuousness about Pakistan's role in terrorism and subversion in Afghanistan is about to fall away.

(For years it has driven our Afghan allies crazy that we invite the Pakistani military to "tripartite commission" talks on Afghan security with Afghan and NATO forces, even though everyone knows that Pakistani officers have fought and even been killed alongside Taliban officers, just as they fought and were killed alongside the anti-Soviet mujahedeen.)

The fact that America in the form of the anonymous "U.S. officials" quoted in the Washington Post is going public about the Taliban (and likely al-Qaeda) sanctuary in Quetta could be a warning to Pakistan and the world that the Predators will come and it will no longer be such a safe haven. After all, if Mullah Omar and Co. no longer feel safe, they are more likely to come to the table and to come in desperation, rather than as victors.

corner.nationalreview.com

And as far as the Paki intell community goes, I wouldn't tell them where to find a donkey if I didn't want the donkey end up toting a load of TB RPG rounds; they're considered a bit "porous"...


Funny how the Pak intel community finished off the taliban in Swat and Malakand in 2 months.... so they are damn good.

Does the Pak intel community give crap intel to US deliberately?

Or is it just American incompetence... not being able to act on info provided by a superior service?

After all, if Mullah Omar and Co. no longer feel safe, they are more likely to come to the table and to come in desperation, rather than as victors.


Hmmmmm.... you really expect that to happen? LOL

I don't.

Americans are those "ethical fishermen"... they catch a fish but then instead of eating it, they pull the hook out and release it back into the water. If that isn't STUPID, I don't know what is. Wasted their time and wasted the fish's time.

So they have lost the will to catch something for real.

Anyway, it sez "Washington Post" and "Indian intelligence"... so it can be disregarded as garbage.

Iranian-supplied helicopter gunships


Never happened. In fact it's impossible, as any military expert would tell you.

One more example of Washington Post's garbage status.

Well, I don't know why you are telling me about your living ways.... unless you are trying to tell everyone "hey look at me I'm NOT bitter!".

LOL... If you are not bitter, then stop crying like a little girl and stop shaking your fists in the air at Pakistan and at me. It won't get you anywhere.

Yeah I WAS bragging...It was wrong of me. Forgive me Lord,, and God bless those starving pygmies over there in Pakistan. I don't really get where you think I am "bitter" and I am jumping up and down. I am not really all that anti-Pakistan. I am an anti-War. Tho it is obvious you are VERY Anti-American. So, I guess what you are detecting is my apparent discomfort at your Cartoonish distortions of Americans which I guess you get from watching too much TV like the Family Guy or South Park or whatever they watch over there in Pakiland.

We have proven we can do it far better than the US can.

The bad guys in Afghanistan... THEY are YOUR job. Nothing to do with Pakistan, I'm afraid.

Perhaps you are not paying attention here! Did yo even read the title of the thread? You can discount this author but this author is not the only one floating this story.

As I said, I am anti-War and your country is causing a lot of problems that exacerbate this War. The militants are running across YOUR border and hiding. Pakistan is obviously the center of some of the world's worst Islamist terrorist networks. Your country is infested with the leadership elements of al-Qaeda and the Afghan Taliban, along with other terrorist groups that have made Pakistan's tribal areas (the semi-autonomous region along the Afghan border) their home. That is why "they" are floating this "trial balloon". So I would suggest that you get to proving you are far better at killing Taliban and al-Qaeda than us or, seriously dude, I think WE are coming to visit your little country soon. (I have always thought it was inevitable)

When that happens I don't think you will LOL much.

small correction: "I am an anti-War....Liberal Democrat."

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