Obama might want get get his 'military community' organized. Else he might have illegals make up 10% of the population of California. Opps, too late...

But Obama had time to drink a beer with a racist professor Gates. But afterall Gates did yell "Racism" and the president has to keep his bro's back.

#2 | Posted by slicksterWilly | Flag: Firing Blanks

#2 | Posted by slicksterWilly | Flag: Firing Blanks

Actually-he ran out of blanks months ago-now he's just dry firing on an empty chamber.

Obama is sleeping on it and will look at it the next time he is at the White House...sometime after he finishes campaigning for the Olympics to be held in his home town.

Hmmm di he just say "fed up with the way the U.S. has been fighting the war for the past eight years"

Yeah, we are ALL fed up with the way things were going the last eight years! Nice to mention that now. But, not too late.

That is why it's about Time for Change.

GOBAMA!

Get out. Now.

What is amazing is that McChrystal is Obama's pick.

And they have only talked once?

Wow! Not even the experienced one Biden has talked with McChrystal ????

The Afghan war needs management for sure. There are not enough troops and the consequences of leaving without some stability is deadly to the US interests and the world.

McChrystal reports to Gates, Gates to the Pres.

That McChrystal wouldn't have spoken personally with the Pres but once in that time is hardly surprising, given the chain of Command.

The Afghan war needs management for sure.

The Afghan war is being managed fine. Pakistan is managing it for you. LOL

and the consequences of leaving without some stability

When the US leaves, stability will come by itself.

He should tell obama to go to hell and get out and let the big eared bastard take the heat because he is too fucking dumb to handle anything bigger than his wife's fat ass.

Gen. David McChrystal, the U.S. commander in Afghanistan, was "blunt, hard charging and fed up with the way the U.S. has been fighting the war for the past eight years

This general has got more American soldiers killed in short order than anyone before him.

He is the worst man Obama could pick for the job... he is clearly not qualified and is incompetent.

I can guess Obama must be regretting it now.

McChrystal may very well be "fed up" with the way the war has been handled for eight years but that does not necessarily mean that President Obama should choose to send in more troops. The President needs to weigh the potential advantage staying in Afghanistan would give us in two, five, ten years and then compare that to what it will cost in lives and treasure. At least he isn't making the choice out of an egotistical desire to be a "war time president". At least he isn't saying "bring it on" or other macho nonsense. I suspect he is not going to send in more troops and that he is trying to develop a rationale for exiting with honor. Sort of a "peace with honor" similar to Vietman.

That McChrystal wouldn't have spoken personally with the Pres but once in that time is hardly surprising, given the chain of Command.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2009-09-28 02:11 PM | Reply

Funny flag. Head up ars flag.

I suspect he is not going to send in more troops and that he is trying to develop a rationale for exiting with honor.

OMG....you mean how to cut 'n' run?

Head up ars flag.

#14 | Posted by slicksterWilly

Ever hear of the "Chain of Command", dickheadwilly?

Talk about your head up your ass.....

Odd, with their love for war, some Riiightists don't seem to understand how the chain of command works.

There's no reason for McChrystal to be talking with Obama at this point. He was sent out to Afghanistan to take a look, give matters careful thought, and make recommendations. Now those recommendations are on the Sec. of Defense's desk. And from there, the Sec. of Defense will move them on to POTUS with his own recommendation.

A final decision could probably be made as late as November for implementation when the war season resumes over there after the snow melts in spring.

I do not envy Obama this decision.

the lousy fuckin liar has time to get on sunday shows and letterman and now is headed to denmark to do what he can to put as much olympic money in his cronies pocket but he only talks to the commander of a war once

and AS RUSH said...hillary warned us of this from this sumbitch in her ad...and we read it here as well..that the committee on aghan oversite that he chaired HAD NO MEETINGS..

fuckin liar is going to get people killed

and the irony

in 1938 the west turned over czachoslovakia to 'RESET" relations with hitler and sept of 09 obama does the same thing for russia.

so now that iran is firing missles, I guess this still doesnt matter to a president who doesnt TALK to the commander in the field.

Chemical weapons is the answer. There is one man and only one man who knows how to get it done Ali Hassan al-Majid. This guy will devise a plan that will teach the taliban a lesson. I know offer him life in club fed if he helps us.

# 10 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-09-28 02:13 PM
***"The Afghan war is being managed fine. Pakistan is managing it for you. LOL"

LOL: Pakistan can't even manage its own borders, or its own populace, much less Afghanistan...

***"When the US leaves, stability will come by itself"

When has Afghanistan ever been "stable"???

It's a country that, for the last three centuries (or more), has been run by feuding factions and warlords...

I agree that we should leave; just let the place devour itself with civil war and rebellion...

If GWB had a brain in his head he would've placed and enforced international sanctions on Afghanistan, while covertly dumping a ton of weapons in the middle of the country somewhere, then just waited for the smoke to clear. Sure there'd be a lot more widows, orphans and rubble, but that is nothing new to Afghanistan...

AND another example of the inept president when it comes to terror and this

patriot act set to expire and some of that would not allow anyone to even follow this zazi guy in colorado

also the amount in some bill I believe it is for investigating dirty bombs in obama plan
$0.00

JOHN KERRY HAS put in billlions for ted memorial but nothing to protect americans

Ever hear of the "Chain of Command", dickheadwilly?
Talk about your head up your ass.....
#16 | Posted by frankf55

Well the good general sent the President a report he actually requested, about the dire situation in Afghanistan and the president has sat on it. "Chain of Command" doesn't mean what you are implying, but it is a nice talking point.

pretty scary isint it andreamac?

but again...he is pretty busy getting money for buddies in chicago and bankrupting the richest country in the history of the world can be pretty time consuming.

and now MISSLES fired by IRAn....

what a bunch of dupes on the left..

but capt
what happens when taliban takes it back over and we are then right where we started with 9/11 and the other attacks on this country hatched there and people trained there..
it DOES make a difference to our security it seems to me that history is pretty clear on that.
as well as our heads in the sand in the 30's.

"it DOES make a difference to our security it seems to me that history is pretty clear on that.
as well as our heads in the sand in the 30's."

So, perhaps we shouldn't have redirected our resources to Iraq back when it would have made a difference.

Presidents Johnson and Nixon requested and received lots of reports from Generals who always recommened more troops til we got up to 550,000 and still couldn't win. President Obama is wise to seek other advice than just from the military.

"LOL: Pakistan can't even manage its own borders, or its own populace, much less Afghanistan..."

psst....we don't seem to be able to manage our borders either.

fuckin liar is going to get people killed

#18 | Posted by afkabl2

ummmm too late! THE Fucking Liar already did that. Obama is now trying to decide how to best correct our course.

BTW- have we actually defined what winning looks like in THIS war yet?

Tosser and his friends may be very sad if this war is expanded like it looks like it is going to be. I don't think he will be happy when it comes home to roost in his back yard.

Barry doesn't have a clue about what to do in Afganistan.

So Obama has met with the head of SEIU and GE more than the head of our most critical military conflict.
He takes time out to yuck it up on Letterman, tell our children to "look at me" and study hard, take a nice vacation, and sip beers with fellow racists, but he can't be bothered dealing with the situation that he himself has set up over there. A strategy that is costing many lives. If only he cared for our soldiers as much as he cares for Acorn.

Funny how in the campaign he criticized Bush for the war in Iraq because Bin Laden was elsewhere. And now we're fighting and dying in Afghanistan when Obama acknowledges that Bin Laden is actually in Pakistan. This is not the same error, it is a worse one. The Afghanistan people support the Taliban and extreme Islamicism and won't roll over like the Iraquis did.

#25 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-09-28 04:06 PM

If we covertly armed all the warlords and opposing factions in Afghanistan, then sat back and let them all do what they do best, we could walk in, clean up and set up shop unopposed after a few short years. If the Afghans want freedom and Democracy, let them get it the old fashion way: civil war...

"we are going to take our time to get it right" why is it health care,cap and trade,bail outs and regulations must be done now,not a day to waste or it will be to late,but with Afghanistan we will take all the time we need,maybe till next year so we get it right.

We tried civil war against USSR in 80's.

Still trying to pick a winner in 2009.

Country should be be divided up. We back the dude who will
give us cheap oil and gas and opium.

We tried civil war against USSR in 80's.

Still trying to pick a winner in 2009.

Country should be be divided up. We back the dude who will
give us cheap oil and gas and opium.

We tried civil war against USSR in 80's.

Still trying to pick a winner in 2009.

Country should be be divided up. We back the dude who will
give us cheap oil and gas and opium.

U.S. commander in Afghanistan talked with Obama only once

Why bother with trivial matters like such, when you can get all in a huff over the arrest of Henry Gtaes or Kayne West..or you have better things to do like your basketball brackets. next stop Copenhagen forget about Afghanistan!!!!

Some POTUS we have there.....

Barry doesn't have a clue about what to do in Afganistan.

#30 | Posted by fwthom

Feels Worthless Thom is just mad that Obama hasn't called him personally and told him what the Plan is. Perhaps you can watch Faux News and then you can get your own "raging clue".

#37

Sad state of affairs...

Bush talked with his Generals every week, so fuck you Doc and your chain of command bullshit! We all know what the chain of command is and Obama COULD talk to them if he wanted to but they won't let his teleprompter in the Pentagon!

Obama doesn't give a shit about our military otherwise he would have a strategy in place by now like he PROMISED on the campaign trail. It's fucking amateur night in the White House.

Barry set the military up for failure because he's dealt the cards face up. He's came out publicly and said we won't bomb when civilians are present to the world. I think if he'd been smart in tactics, he could have changed the policy without publicly saying we did. This way our bombers would have a advantage in that the bad guys wouldn't know if we were going to bomb or not. This would allow the ground troops to get better positions to shoot them while they were running away like the cowards they are. From what I can see of our commander-in-chief, he appears to say the wars are a top priority but his actions suggest otherwise. Having SEIU thugs beat up town hall protesters had a higher priority and for that matter, making the talk show circuit had a higher priority than actually doing his duty as commander-in-chief and coming up with a strategy. Yes bringing the Olympics to the states helps the economy but that doesn't necessarily take the President to personally go take care of it.

Lonnie

Lonnie

"Bush talked with his Generals every week, so fuck you Doc and your chain of command bullshit!"

Perhaps he did talk with them but then he totally ignored them. Virtually every military analysis that we've seen lately has one thing in common, Afghanistan was under resourced for eight solid years. Iraq drained away the resources necessary to fight the war in the nation from which America was attacked on 9-11. Sorry about that, but Afghanistan is, if nothing else, an indightment of Bush and his use of the military to carry out an unnecessary war instead of a necessary war. President Obama has already increased the number of troops in Afghanistan more than Bush ever did. Now, after eight years of LOSING, Obama is considering if it is worth it to continue losing Americans, at the rates we have seen recently, to try, that is try, to accomplish what no military has ever accomplished in the history of the world. Any honest read of history would convince any reasonable person that the answer is no. I have always supported the war in Afghanistan (not Iraq though) but I am having serious doubts that this mission can ever be successful and that we may only increase the number of lives we waste trying to accomplish in impossible.

I saw this liberal phonycon on 60 minutes last night. He believes that if we are nice to these savages, they are going to become nice civilized demotards? I swear this country has the weirdest people running it, and they have been in charge for the longest time. I guess we learned nothing from all of the other wars we have lost for the last 60 years. The old man Bush (cia Bush) knew how to fight a war- get in, accomplish the mission, and then get out. I think the Phonycon Republirats are like poison to this country, and the same goes for the insane leftist Demorats. Welcome to the "failing society club" USA !

Afghanistan was under resourced for eight solid years.

The fear of WMD's in Iraq took precedence over Afghanistan.

"So this guy is pissed that afghanistan went swimmingly and was a great victory?"

John McLost and Mann Coulter.

The fear of WMD's in Iraq took precedence over Afghanistan.

Posted by Beachbuzz at 2009-09-28 10:06 PM | Reply

I can't believe You right wingers fell for that bullshit. Makes You wonder the IQ of the average Conservative.

Larry

The fear of WMD's in Iraq took precedence over Afghanistan.

Even after the fact that there were no WMD was confirmed? Of course, had Bush not been led around by his coke-encrusted nose by the Iranian secret service, even he would have known there were no WMD BEFORE invading. Maybe yo should go with the hunt for bin laden in Baghdad took precedence. It's about as realistic.

And even if you got suckered into believing the WMD by Bush, what went on after April 2003, when the non-existence of those scary WMD was proven to almost even the dumbest rightie. I say almost cause ther were a couple who believed they were Fed-exed to Syria or Chicago.

You right wingers fell for that bullshit.

If I remember the vote in congress, a log of left wingers fell for that bullshit too, Larry. Makes you wonder about their IQ too, I'm sure -- right? LOL

Goatman must be one lonely MOFO to trool the Retort all the time. There should be that little man with his pecker out pissing on trolls and trools that we could set up for the Retorts use. It's typical of Him though.

Larry

Goatman must be one lonely MOFO to trool the Retort all the time.

You can always tell when Larry gets frustrated and can't come back with a response to irrefutable logic or if you turn his argument against the dems.

He pulls out the word "trool". LOL

Or do you have a meaningful rebuttal to my post, Larry? If so, let's here it.

#46 | Posted by northguy3

Yeah ---

And the UN

and Italy

and Jordan

and Saudi Arabia

and Britain

and Clintons

and Gore

and Kerry

and Schumer

and the House

and the rest of the Senate--past and present...

Did it occur to anyone that Afghanistan dropped off because all the jihadists were fighting in Iraq?

Then after the surge they left and now back in Afghanistan??

Obama picked this guy and then ignores him.

Typical friggin Obama...

Clueless about the chain of command.

Typical friggin' Murphy.

Dan--I guess you think it's ok for Obama to have only spoken with the General once in the last 70 days??

I think if you will see the video and hear the voice of the General you will understand how pissed off he seems at this.

So don't take it from me.

McChrystal was the one complaining!

Chain of command!!! LOL

You have got to be kidding....?

Is there nothing you would be critical of concerning Obama Dan??

It is becoming ridiculous.

I can't believe You right wingers fell for that bullshit.

So before the invasion, your crystal meth ball predicted we wouldn't find any WMD in Iraq? Bullshit.

Even Bill Clinton said there was WMD in Iraq.

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

AND

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others

"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

Yes SITP I knew before we went in that we wouldn't find anything and don't forget Colin Powell Condi Rice and even Dick Cheney declared Saddam Hussein a nonthreat while in Dubya's administration. They only declared that He was a threat to get the Gullible Americans to go along with their Oil War. Sorry but dems de facts.

Larry

#55

*Sigh*

Yet another who doesn't understand the difference between rhetoric and invasion.

US Threatens Air Strikes in Pakistan

I told you this might happen Tosser.

Now let's hear that tough boy buster!

I'm afraid I can't take it seriously. LOL

And what is this "I told you this might happen"?

Nothing has happened yet, has it? When it does, call me up to ask my opinion.

For this topic go here:

#55
#56

*Sigh*

You two STILL ignore DEMOCRAT views of Iraq pre-war?

"You two STILL ignore DEMOCRAT views of Iraq pre-war?"

You STILL don't know the difference between talk and occupation?

So...if we attacked Iran, would it be attributable to John McCain?

"Chain of command!!! LOL You have got to be kidding....?"

No. McChrystal reports to Gates.

Chain of command.

Time for lazy Americans to learn some history:

Nobody conquers Afghanistan. That's why it's called the "graveyard of empires".

Hubris simply won't change this fact, as much as we wish it would.

Looking to get rid of some wasteful spending in our budget?

GTFO Afghanistan and stop trying to be the world's policeman...

Zara, you quoted my patented "ghey assay" on ED... hahahahahaha

Instead, we attempt to garrison the planet while whining about how much healthcare might cost.

The military is sacrosanct, while spending to improve the lives of actual Americans is vilified...unless the insurance companies (who produce NOTHING) can run away with a few hundred million - billion per annum...THEN the stars are perfectly aligned for something GREAT!

I'm discouraged that we spend so little improving conditions at home; simultaneously, something dark and deep within me really looks forward to things getting ugly and nasty on the world scene; at least it'll be exciting!

It's about time that the "virus with shoes" (thanks Bill Hicks!) dealt with its own...we're just Mother Nature's first (known) experiment with higher intelligence; one certainly cannot expect all to go according to plan the first time around.

Might be about time to scrap homo sapiens and try again!

Time to reign in the machismo.
#64 | Posted by Zarathustra

Just one more troop increase.
-Barack Harvey Obama, President of the United States of America

#65 | POSTED BY ZOMBIEHUNTER

Why, yes I did...because it was quite outstanding!!

Did you see it because Jacque was giving me crap (on another thread) about my ED tribute to this site, and all its denizens (myself included)?

I thought this was all old-hat, but I'm positively thrilled to see my "article" (inspired by 3.5g of superb pot) grabbing peoples' attention once again!

It *might* (depending upon who you are) look impressive, but believe me - it's not. Wikicode effectively consolidates more complex coding into some simplified brackets which anyone could grasp, if they dedicated the time!

The difference between shitty-looking wiki pages and the ones which look OK is due to planning, and a keen eye for not submitting shit whilst previewing (similar to posts on DR).

#67 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE

That's our president...a "real" "liberal"!

Nothing like a little kike-baiting to shore up your edgy, internet "progressivism".

That's our president...a "real" "liberal"!

Keep saying it and maybe you'll believe it. For some that's easier than others. A LOT easier. And many of them actually voted for him.

afgan strategy.........why are we even there now?

the lousy fuckin liar has time to get on sunday shows and letterman and now is headed to denmark to do what he can to put as much olympic money in his cronies pocket but he only talks to the commander of a war once
#18 | Posted by afkabl2

You stoopidity is of universal proportions: boundless.

I seem to recall that when your hard werk role model Bush was in office the presidency was 24/7. George could be cutting brush down at his converted pig ranch near Waco, jerking off in the Oval Office bathroom, or taking a nap and he was "on the job."

What happened, Aflakabibblebabble?

Oh, right. I forgot your mantra: Party before country...party before country...party before country.

Take your meds and STFU.

"And many of them actually voted for him."

Still glad I did and I still can't think of anyone I'd rather have in the Oval Office.
Who did you vote for???

How the hell did Obama land in the White House? What happened to this country? The world is laughing at us...

How the hell did Obama land in the White House? What happened to this country? The world is laughing at us...

You wanted CHANGE.

You got it.

How the hell did Obama land in the White House? What happened to this country? The world is laughing at us...
#75 | Posted by tennisnut

A presidential election, as provided for by the Constitution of the United States of America.

Same way Bush won office in 2004 (but not 2000).

You're welcome. No charge this time.

"The world is laughing at us..."

the world is specifically only laughing at you.

How the hell did Obama land in the White House?
#75 | Posted by tennisnut

Thank George Bush.

"The world is laughing at us..."

I haven't noticed that, can't really say I give a crap. I'm relatively happy with our President and don't have the need to appear cynical in order to be perceived as intelligent. Fact is cynicism isn't necessarily any more of an indicator of intelligence than is optimism.

"Fact is cynicism isn't necessarily any more of an indicator of intelligence than is optimism."

Then why bother to mention it?

Fact is cynicism isn't necessarily any more of an indicator of intelligence than is optimism.

#80 | Posted by danni at 2009-09-29 09:14 AM |

So listening to the last 8 years of the Bush bashing I was wrong to think you and your strain were unintelligent?

"So listening to the last 8 years of the Bush bashing I was wrong to think you and your strain were unintelligent?"

There is a difference between cynicism and recognizing a liar.

Presidents Johnson and Nixon requested and received lots of reports from Generals who always recommened more troops til we got up to 550,000 and still couldn't win. President Obama is wise to seek other advice than just from the military.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2009

danni

come on you were around then..you know that one problem with lbj and nam was that he ran it from the whitehouse...
and nixon got crucified when he tried to fight it the right way........

but its pretty interesting to me because in the truman bio IM reading I am now at the point where he and mcarthur are going after each other...
mcarthur may have been exactly right to want to invade north korea and even china in some ways but geesh...what sort of price would that have cost..
the china thing for sure...
but it just doesnt make sense to talk to the commander on the ground once in 70 days..
chain of command ..sure...but this just doesnt make sense.

nixon was too busy trying to abort inter racial children

"and nixon got crucified when he tried to fight it the right way........"

Nixon got crucified when he said he had a plan to get us out of Vietnam when he campaigned for his first term and then proceeded to just continue the war. He was a dishonest thug who deserved to be forced from office which he was.

"mcarthur may have been exactly right to want to invade north korea and even china in some ways but geesh"

MacArthur was out of his mind and President Truman rightly fired his ass.

Those attempting to place these foreign policy FAILURES at the feet of Obama are either STUPID or PARTISANS.

It was the "deciderer" invaded afghanistan, then decided....."there are no good targets there" and decided that iraqnam was the central front in the war on terror, a country that did not attack the usa and was no threat to do so......

In doing so, he spent over 30,000 of our troops into either being kia or mia, hundreds of thousands returning with PTSD and needing treatment, thousands have committed suicide, a couple of TRILLION dollars that he never placed in his budgets.....

The deciderer then created an escalation of troops (surge) in Feb 07 which INCREASED US casualties each and every month over the last couple of years there, AND then the deciderer decided to make a deal with the Sunnis in Sept of 07.....and violence has subsided as a result. ie....a political solution worked, not the military one...

Look at the statistics of US kia there and it's easy to see the exact pattern. The surge caused MORE US troops to die....until a political solution (deal with Sunnis) was reached.

If McChrystal does not like the current presidents war plan he is free to resign his post today if need be. To go on national TV to dispute the sitting president's planning is usurping the power of the president. Do we want a military that is so out of control they think they can dictate war policy and planning of the president?

McChrsytal should avoid the politics of policy and simply follow the order given to him. Ask any lower ranking military what they think and they will tell yo they are not paid to think, they are paid to follow orders. If he cannot, resign.

McChrystal Fed Up with Afghanistan Strategy

Actually, it's "Afghanistan fed up with McChrystal."

Ya'll just don't get it, and you can't if you haven't experienced the place. Afghanistan will never be run by a centralized gov't that we take for granted unless every one of them is dead! That makes no sense. It's just not their culture. This general sees it, and if it wasn't for the fact that it will delay his requests, I say the less BO gets involved the better. AStan will never be Nebraska, not a chance. Secure it, support a legitimate gov't, and get the hell out.

What don't we get mtnman?

I get this.

No conventional foreign occupier has ever defeated a homegrown guerilla insurgency.

Therefore, sending more troops is just providing more targets and placing our finest in a no win senario, eh?

And, I am speaking from experience.

larry and ng....
the post said the "FEAR" of wmd which was completely real....
just ask hillary and blowjob because they had 'fear' as well...

OBAMA TALKS AGAIN TO MCCHRYSTAL

I guess the news coming out had NOTHING to do with it though...

newsflash for ya

McCristal and the military work for US and Obama is their CIC...

not the other way around genius