You can't make this shit up!

Damn this country is sinking faster than the TITANIC...

I think some or most liberals are shocked at the rate of CHANGE from a free country to one led by Obama with a Socialistic agenda. I belive this IS NOT what most people wanted when they voted for Obama...

How do you say middle class tax?

Read my lips.... no middle class tax.

ALL HAIL OBAMA our children sing praises to your name, we all want a MAC DADDY GOVERMENT to help us wipe our asses for we are weak but OBAMA/GOD is stong. Come on everyone Yes OBAMA/GOD loves me the congress told me so...

OH PUKE

BLAHHH how can liberals support this Shit and look in the mirror with dignity...

Read my lips.... no middle class tax.

#4 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2009-09-25 04:23 PM

I think you ment ASS CHEEKS cause that is what he is talking out of...

ALL HAIL OBAMA

Si is this how to address the illegals who don'[t pay the fine?

Thrwo them all in jail or give them a ride to the border.

Since they are decreasing the border agents on the southern border by 384 --shold be that much easier to just come on back.

This is what passes for "liberal" in the Democratic Party. Social engineering is always the priority and my surprise is that they didn't make it a felony. This is about as dumb as putting fathers in jail because they're behind on child support, as if they could earn a living inside the joint.

Where are all the LIBERALS to defend this are they all in prayer time to OBAMA...

Nice.

GObama!

What is even better is that they won't post the bill on the internet so folks can read it before they supposedly vote on it.

Forget 'bout it--no 72 hours for you to read no stinkin' bill.

Buy Obamacare Or Go To Jail!!

You think this is bad? Wait until they start rounding up conservatives and putting them into internment camps!

"Where are all the LIBERALS to defend this are they all in prayer time to OBAMA..."

Sounds like a bad idea.

There...make you happy, asshole?

And You trust this guy whyyyyyyy????? Isn't He the same bastard who cheated upon His wife??

Who Clinton?

And You trust this guy whyyyyyyy?????

Because the story was vetted by professional journalists at Politico?

Nah. Trust the MohrOn Meter.

IF this is true, EVERY American has a 110% legit reason to be extremely concerned.

I guess if you go to jail then the healthcare is free.

More details--

The latest spark is a letter that Thomas Barthold, the chief of staff to the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation, sent Thursday to Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev.

Given that the health-care bill written by Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus contains a $1,900 fee (or excise tax) for not buying health insurance, Ensign wanted to know what would happen if an American didn't pay the penalty.

In a handwritten letter, Barthold told Ensign that under an existing provision of the Internal Revenue Code, willful failure to pay a fine can result in being charged with a misdemeanor which could carry a penalty of up to $25,000, or up to a year in jail, or both. The handwritten letter was a follow-up to an answer that Barthold gave Ensign during Thursday's mark-up of the Baucus bill.

Barthold felt that he was not as thorough during the hearing as he could be after considering the Internal Revenue Code.

During last year's campaign, then-Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., opposed an individual mandate. In fact, he clashed repeatedly with Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., his future Secretary of State, on this issue.

Since becoming president, however, he has switched his stance and now shares Clinton's view that an individual mandate is necessary in order to achieve new federal protections for individuals with pre-existing conditions.

Pointing to experience at the state level, the insurance industry and other health-care experts persuaded Obama that insurers could not go along with a guanteed issue policy without knowing that all adults would be forced into the system.

And here is the actual LETTER!!!

Where da libbies at?

Where da libbies at?

They're not over at the thread about Obama priming the public for the non-shutdown of Gitmo in January either.

Wonder why?

Dan will be along to wipe his nose and say how this is a good idea and it could work!

These people are hoot.

Obama thinks the minority of marxists and the fraudulent Acorn registered votes were a mandate for him to do a marxist takeover of this country.

The dumbshit actually believes everyone is like his mother.

I'd like to see a bunch of repulsicans not buy it and get fined. Maybe not locked up but a 3000 fine would be a good lesson.

They're not over at the thread about Obama priming the public for the non-shutdown of Gitmo in January either.

Wonder why?

#22 | Posted by goatman at 2009-09-26 12:45 AM |

I think Bidden has proposed that Gitmo be used for insurance evaders.

Not for nothing.
If i get pulled over driving my car in Ohio without Auto Insurance of a certain level. Regardless of the cost to me. I will go to jail and face stiff fines.

How is this different?

And before you say something assinine about public transportation and Taxi's, think about the legitimate costs of using either exclusively or the limited coverage of either.

How is this different?

You are forced to buy car liability insurance for the protection of other people. Health care insurance is only for yourself.

That is the difference.

Goat

So, you aren't smart enough to realize the public safety and cost concerns of those who have no health insurance?

Do you have kids?

Do they go to school with other kids who don't have healthcare insurance?

Do you realize what happens to the price of your home, when others are foreclosed out of their homes due to bankruptcy over healthcare costs?

Do you realize what happens to the price of YOUR home when those neighbors homes are foreclosed on?

WHO do you think is paying for the emergency room visits for kids whose parents have no health insurance...??

This is not even using the MORAL considerations as an argument to you....as I know you don't give a shit about that.....you got yours so fk everyone else is the repug mantra, eh?

However, unless you make MILLIONS each year, universal healthcare is in YOUR own best interests......and even then it would be since, if you made millions, a little more tax wouldn't bother you and you would benefit morally, financially and socially from "promoting the general WELFARE" of all Americans....

Stop and THINK for yourself for a change.....you are continually repeating the LIES and MISINFORMATION you are fed daily by crybaby beck, rush addict, bully o'lielly, sean handjobbity....

get a clue...they are ALL MULTIMILLIONAIRES and don't give one shit about YOU, but they know MILLIONAIRES will be taxed at a little higer rate to insure ALL Americans have health insurance.....

Why does that bother you so much?

The top 1%, who would pay a litttle more and not even feel it amount to 141,000 people who average 7.4 MILLION a year.....

THINK for yourself

Forcing everyone to buy th plan will drive down costs by spreading the risk. Sounds good to me.

so you aren't smart enough to realize the public safety and cost concerns of those who have no health insurance?

Do you have kids?

Do they . . . yada
Do you . . . yada-yada

yada -yada -yada

This is not even using the MORAL considerations as an argument to you....as I know you don't give a shit about that.....you got yours so fk everyone else is the repug mantra, eh?

THINK for yourself

#29 | Posted by woke

however if ya had layout a CONSTITUTIONAL argument first, you'd have found that ya couldn't have gone any further

Wow. The libbies have come a long way in a short time.

I just wonder--is there anything that Obama and his boys can lie about, that they wouldn't excuse away?

Suits me, though. Millions of libbies who thought they were getting free health care on the backs of those who are making $250,000 a year or more, will instead be getting a bill in the mail from the IRS: Pay this, or go to jail.

And, yet, they keep the pompoms on. You're loyal to your party--I'll give you that.

i guess ya COULD also spell out that MORAL argument if ya really want to . .
however if ya had layout a CONSTITUTIONAL argument first, you'd have found that ya couldn't have gone any further

#31 | POSTED BY MARKH AT 2009-09-27 10:31 AM

Well, first of all....I DID make a constitutional argument son....Did you notice that little part about:

PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE...

That comes directly from the preamble to the US Constitution....

You should read it some time, it includes other stuff like:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

FORM A MORE PERFECT UNION---ie...collectively bargain with healthcare corps to bring healthcare costs down

establish JUSTICE=what could be more JUST than ALL Americans having healthcare?

same with insure domestic TRANQUILLITY

and even provide for the common DEFENSE....a constitutional argument I also made above...

secure the blessings of LIBERTY.....what good is liberty if you lose your home due to sickness, or watch your sick kids and not have the money for dr.s visit or medication??

THINK

moral argument?

Why yes i can....

Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Mat 25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

Mat 25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

Mat 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me.

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

I try to follow the teachings of Jesus, the words attributed to him in the New Testament of the Bible...

Who are you listening to???

You don't seem to understand the bible (morality) or the Constitution (laws and govt of the USA)

You just keep spewing the same lying bs your neocon mouthpieces spew daily on cable "news" shows and talk radio....
eh>?

MarkH
You should read it some time, it includes other stuff like:

FORM A MORE PERFECT UNION---ie...collectively bargain with healthcare corps to bring healthcare costs down

establish JUSTICE=what could be more JUST than ALL Americans having healthcare?

same with insure domestic TRANQUILLITY

and even provide for the common DEFENSE....a constitutional argument I also made above...

secure the blessings of LIBERTY.....what good is liberty if you lose your home due to sickness, or watch your sick kids and not have the money for dr.s visit or medication??

THINK
#33 | Posted by woke

btw, could ya add - -

free lake homes (mucho tranquility there) w/dock & boat . . free fuel too, of course

oh yea, freedom from taxes - (from the liberty section)

thx

Hilarious to watch repugs begin to worry about the national debt and taxes.....

reagan/bush41=QUADTRUPLED the national debt and BOTH raised taxes.....

lilaWol/hallichainy=knocked the debt out of the park, and drove the economy off the cliff with tax breaks for the richest 1% and never included any costs of invading/occupying iraqnam in their budgets...budgets Obama inherited from them....

and now, you are worried about taxing the richest 1% (141,000 people who average 7.4 million a year) a little more to insure old people, kids and other Americans, mostly who work for a living but cannot afford healthcare, get it...

Hilarious, disengenuous and i call bullshit....

you got yours so fk everyone else is the repug mantra, eh?

I don't know. Ask a repug.

Why does that bother you so much?

It doesn't. Our inept governmet taking control of 1/6 of our economy and even more of my life is what bothers me.

If i get pulled over driving my car in Ohio without Auto Insurance of a certain level. Regardless of the cost to me. I will go to jail and face stiff fines.

Valsik--

Uh--No --you would rarely go to jail for not buying car insurance. If you were drunk and killed someone and had no insurance--you would go to jail.

You could lose your license--because driving is a privilege.

And it is unconstitutional for the federal gov't to mandate people buy health insurance.

Woke--you need to brush up on the constitution--

General Welfare--look to Federalist 41 written by Madison--

I'd like to know where the religious fervor people are that coronated this incompetant disaster. There's not many of them saying anything to defend the mind-numbing stupidity of their vote. Even Air America shoots at the pres.

Are they the mindset that government is the do, be and give-all entity in their lives, caring for them from cradle to grave at someone else's expense because they are 'entitled'. They must be, because they are not to be found defending their incredibly stupid decision to install 'Disaster Incorporated' and his team of nitwits into the white house.
So how's that 'Hope and Change' working out for all you morons who couldn't see past your outstretched hand for the freebies.

HEBGB-
Could you incorporate a few more simplistic partisan talking points and mindless radio rants into your statements?

So how's that 'Hope and Change' working out for all you morons who couldn't see past your outstretched hand for the freebies.

I'm still waiting to see it. I said during the campaign that this "hope and change" thing rang hollow. Still does, of course. I wonder how the Obama voters are feeling about this? I know a lot of them make excuses and apologies and justify Obama's coninuing string of lies, but surely there must be a few with a brain who feel their vote was in error.

"I wonder how the Obama voters are feeling about this?"

Well, this Obama voter posted several times during the campaign he was expecting a politician, nothing more. I find I disagree with the majority of what Obama says & does, but I'd still vote for him over Bush 44, as McCain turned out to be, unfortunately. And as for 'hope & change', the one issue above all for me was the SCOTUS, and the new Justice certainly qualifies.

...but I'd still vote for him over Bush 44, ...

There were other choices

"There were other choices"

Not realistically. And the chance of a 3rd Bush term was completely unpalatable. I posted several times one more Republican president would give Scalia control over the thrust of our jurisprudence for a generation. Not Acceptable.

Not realistically.

It's that attitude that keeps us saddled with this fucked up two party system.

If I know for certain how an election is going to go in my state (and I almost always do) I vote for a third party even if I really don't want them just to encourage third party growth. It's gotta start somewhere and I'm going to bitch about the two party system (and you know I always do) I better have the balls to do something about it. I wish others would do the same because I can't do it all by my lonesome.

"If I know for certain how an election is going to go in my state (and I almost always do) I vote for a third party even if I really don't want them just to encourage third party growth."

I understand, and I'd probably do the same if in the same situation. However, living in a swing state I don't have that luxury.

I vote in every primary, and never EVER vote for an incumbant. However in the main election I always vote dem. Those who "vote for the man and not the party" are simply fooling themselves. The man will always go for what the party platform stands for--or the party will see to it that he is marginalized. The time for change is in the primaries. Kick all the bums out. Dems have been the better bums since 1928. Reps have always been for business--not people.

You are right about the primaries, BBob. I remember reading your ideas on primaries and how they should be run when you spoke of it extensively during this past election year. You had some valid ideas.

G'night.

Kick all the bums out

We never can as long as blind partisan idiots like you keep voting democrat or republcan. I'm doing my part. Why aren't you doing yours? You say "kick all the bums out" and in the same post say that you always vote democrat.

You are one confused mother fucker, bOoB.

Those who "vote for the man and not the party" are simply fooling themselves.

Actually that is not true of me. I am very well informed on whom I vote. The fools are the mindless idiots who vote the same party no matter who is running. That is stupid as hell. Those people deserve what they get. Obama. Who got fooled there? LOL

Actually, I would vote for Bill Maher--or Michael Moore before any politican I have seen running in my lifetime. Geez, would the reps be howling if that combo ran and won. The two country scenario would very likely become a reality---I doubt either of them would try to stop the South from seceding.

Dems have been the better bums since 1928.

Wow. I'm surprised to hear da bOoB say that the democrats are better bums. That's like saying, "He's a better liar" or "He's a better thief" or "He's a better slob".

I would never have guessed I'd see the day he'd put a democrat's status below that of a republican's.

What's up with that, bOoB?

Geez, would the reps be howling if that combo ran and won.

The whole country would be howling as the entire country slipped -- no plummeted -- to third world status, much as the democrats howling is beginning to get louder and louder as the Messiah breaks more and more promises.

I doubt either of them would try to stop the South from seceding.

IOW, they would have no respect for the Constitution. Figures you would like someone like that.

Funny though, you were outraged when Bush said it was just a goddammed piece of paper. But if a democrat disregards it you're fine with it.

As I said, you are one confused motherfucker, bOoB.

as the Messiah breaks more and more promises.

#53 | Posted by goatman at 2009-09-28 03:09 AM | Reply | Flag:right wing stooge pretending to be non partisan

#53 | Posted by goatman at 2009-09-28 03:09 AM | Reply | Flag:right wing stooge pretending to be non partisan

*YAWN*

Poor confused Alex. So wrapped up in his love with the Messiah that he thinks anyone who hates him is partisan.

Again, love, -- I hate both parties. Since the Messiah is in one of them, I dislike him, too, just as I always said I hated Bush.

It's really not that difficult of a concept, sweety.

PS -- the root word of "nonpartisan" is "party". You figure out the rest. And guess what?! It's true! I belong to no party.

Again, a simple concept. I'm sure if you study this lesson I was kind enough to give for a few days it'll sink in.

Sorry, but only right wingers call obama the messiah. I've not seen a single lefty do it here.

Tell us again how you vote for only repubs in the national scene and what a big "bleeding heart" that makes you to your oil rig boyfriends.

Sorry, but only right wingers call obama the messiah.

And it was only lefties who called bush a chimp. YOur point?

Tell us again how you vote for only repubs in the national scene and what a big "bleeding heart" that makes you to your oil rig boyfriends.

Why? Short memory span? Apparently so because it is not true that I vote for only repubs on teh national scene. I have three times.

oops. four times. Sorry lovey

Tell me again how adhering to these generally accepted left wing principles makes me a righty, alex. I always love this one.

against death penalty
against school vouchers
prefer public schools
ok with gay marriage
ok with early term abortion
no prayer in school
no inference to god in public places
pro environment
against war in Iraq
have cast more votes for democrats

Tell me again how adhering to these generally accepted left wing principles makes me a righty, alex. I always love this one.

Because you're a fucking liar?

Again, you ONLY attack lefties on this site, which means you're either

a) a right winger

b) a bored contrarian asshole who sets himself up as the underdog to pick more fights.

PS- A guy who believes all that crap you claim to wouldn't admit to voting for republicans on the national level over and over and over..

against death penalty
against school vouchers
prefer public schools
ok with gay marriage
ok with early term abortion
no prayer in school
no inference to god in public places
pro environment
against war in Iraq
have cast more votes for democrats

#61 | Posted by goatman at 2009-09-28 06:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

Gee, I guess you voted for Kerry instead of Bush then, huh?

ROFL!

Apparently so because it is not true that I vote for only repubs on teh national scene. I have three times.

#59 | Posted by goatman at 2009-09-28 06:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

Bullcrap. You were running around here one afternoon claiming you vote for dems on the local level and reps on the national level.

Good night, liar.

So are you saying since I am against the death penalty, pro abortion, against prayer in school, against school vouchers, pro gay rights, I am a democrat, yav?

No, I'm saying you hide behind these positions any time you're challenged, but you do nothing but constantly attack Democrats and by doing so, and letting the Right slide by, you end up caricaturing yourself and undermining your credibility. It's difficult to tell you from the less than stellar righties because of it.

Take it as you will. I am just telling you what your blog persona appears to me. If you get tired of always having to pull out that nice little line, take it as a clue.

Or not.

#26 | Posted by YAV at 2009-08-28 06:32 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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You only attack lefties, which makes them doubt your pedigree.

duh. This is a lefty blog after all alex. DOes everything have to be spelled out for you?

#30 | Posted by goatman at 2009-08-29 05:33 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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You only attack lefties

Wrong. Enjoy the consolotion prize

#31 | Posted by goatman at 2009-08-29 05:34 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Because you're a fucking liar?

What did I lie about, sweets?

Again, you ONLY attack lefties on this site, which means you're either

a) a right winger

b) a bored contrarian asshole who sets himself up as the underdog to pick more fights.

Poor, poor alex joins the binary crowd. Can't imagine that there could be another reason. How does the world look in black and white Alex? LOL

PS- A guy who believes all that crap you claim to wouldn't admit to voting for republicans on the national level over and over and over..

Not over an and over. 4 times.

Bullcrap. You were running around here one afternoon claiming you vote for dems on the local level and reps on the national level.

I never said that. I always used the qualifier "generally". I should know, because I know my voting record! So, link or stink -- liar. LOL

Good night, liar.

What did I lie about?

Fuck, your a good one to get riled up. You are s cute when you are mad, alex. But what makes it all the more delicious is what it is over! Most people get mad over someone dinging their car, stealing their money, whatever. You get mad beause you aren't able to pigeon hole me in your little binary world.

I think that is a hoot. LOL But in all honest, it screams of someone who really needs a life in the worst sort of way.

But honestly -- I get more of a kick out of you calling me a "fucking liar" (and being unable to back it up) more than any fun I get from yanking anyone else's chain around here.

Thanks for being my target! LOL

If you get tired of always having to pull out that nice little line, take it as a clue.

I don't mind at all. I get a perverse pleasure out of proving you wrong and rubbing your nose in the dirt.

Gee, I guess you voted for Kerry instead of Bush then, huh?

No -- that year I wrote in Nader, mr binary. Kerry is the biggest idiot to run for president of the two major parties since I've been voting. There was zero chance he would get my vote.

Sorry, but only right wingers call obama the messiah.

Interesting. I didn't know that Louis Farrakhan was a right winger. You sure know how to call 'em, huh, alex?

Since you are right on the money with Louis Farrakhan, you must be equally correct on your evaluation of my party. Big LOL

Sorry, but only right wingers call obama the messiah.

It's a metaphor.

It is charactarizing the personality cult that comprises an alarming number of his supporters.

"I didn't know that Louis Farrakhan was a right winger"

It's a metaphor.

It is charactarizing the personality cult that comprises an alarming number of his supporters.

No political hackery here!

"It is charactarizing the personality cult that comprises an alarming number of his supporters."

On the other hand, it can be seen as a Pavlovian projection on the part of his authority-loving, lockstepping opponents.

It is charactarizing the personality cult that comprises an alarming number of his supporters.
#71 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2009-09-28 08:07 AM

What you call a "personality cult", which probably came right out of rush addict or unkkkle kkkarl rove's ass, we call a MAJORITY of voters......

November 8, 2008....Get over it righties....you lost.

And well so that you did lose. As has been seen, your neocon policies have been complete total disasters in foreign policy and economy. And now, your party has no plans to provide, nothing but criticism, smearing, namecalling of the man elected to attempt to correct those failures.

Obama INHERITED the repug disasters, not CREATED them.

lead, follow, or get the fk out of the way.....

Remember when we were attacked on 911? ALL Americans rallied behind lilaWol/hallichainy, despite the fact they allowed it to occur on their watch.

WHY is it that the GOP still places their political ideology of hate and smear above what's good for our country?

GOP=Party over country.....

Very clear to see.

President Obama said that a world leader approached him at the G20 summit last week wondering why his critics are smearing him. The unidentified world leader told Obama, "We don't understand it. You're trying to make sure everybody has health care and they're putting a Hitler mustache on you I don't that doesn't make sense to me. Explain that to me."

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