It's your move Mr.Obama.

Not to worry, Barry has promised to give up all our nukes and boldly convinced the UN to pass a really strong resolution.

He repeated throughout his campaign that he was going to exercise aggressive diplomacy with Iran. When does that start? When they are aiming a missile?

I feel sorry for Dick Cheney, he doesn't get to push the red button...

This genie popped out of the bottle 64 years ago. That there hasn't been greater proliferation by now is a good thing. How you get a country to un-invent nuclear technology? And you'd need a lot more than is out there now to justify a violent response. Better to jaw-jaw for now than war-war. Talks are scheduled to begin October 1.

"When they are aiming a missile?"

At what target and carrying what sort of payload?

The thought of Pakistan with nukes scares me as
much if not more. If Iran does go nuclear it does
change the balance of power in the Middle East, but does anyone think they would dare use it? If they did
they would cease to exist 30 minutes after deployment.
They are aware that by having a nuke the likelihood of an invasion by a foreign power would be nil. If
Saddam's Iraq had a nuclear weapon he might still be
in power just like Kim Jung Il in North Korea.

"Better to jaw-jaw for now than war-war."

I agree...better to jaw-jaw now and do war-war after everyone has nukes. A lot more fair and a lot more fun, right, Doc?

"Talks are scheduled to begin October 1."

Thank God! That'll work out really swell. Looking back in history, that jaw-jaw has solved every conflict when it was practiced. I only wish Chamberlain had done some more jaw-jaw. Wait a minute. Hasn't Europe, the UN and others been doing jaw-jaw with Iran for years now? Another year or two and it should begin to work...right?

And you suggest doing what, exactly, Jest?

I don't know why everyone is in such an uproar. Just like Rudy from the Cosby show... all Obama has to do is say "Stop it!" and all will obey.

Geez people... where is your faith?

OMG!!!!

OMG!!

OMFG!!!

Six months ago the admin. stated it was up to Iran to change, and that the US would continue to pressure them and install the European Missile Shields. Now in the last week we know Iran has another facility and we waffle from our threat by cancelling the shields?

The Obama Amateur Hour continues....

Welcome to the Nuclear Bomb family.

Larry

I suggest a quick strike against all nuclear targets within Iran with Israel leading the way and the US doing the refueling and supplying the bombs. If in doubt use small nukes. It would also be cool to use the atomic cannon. Check the wind before the raid and make sure it's blowing toward China and Pakistan.

So?

"And you suggest doing what, exactly, Jest?"

I already told you...jaw-jaw. Dear Leader will bring him into the new peaceful coalition along with Chavez, Putin, Kim, and Fidel. The only problem is that all the jaw-jaw isn't going to work out well for Israel. But they can go fuck themselves, right?

Interesting, no suggestions for what action to take from the Riiight, except for Fwthom and he's obviously delusional.

Yes... Iran would use the nuke in a NY minute. Ahmadinejad is a fanatic much like Hitler. He is psycho. Psycho's do not think rationally and therefore does not understand nor care about the reprecussions of a nuclear holocaust.

Let's think about what Iran provides to the world. That would be oil. If Iran drops a nuke on Israel, they will surely retaliate... in fact, they may not even wait for that to happen. Israel may act with a preemptive strike.

Iran would surely be pissed and would then stop the flow of oil to Israel and it's allies (that would be us) either by choice or because of damage.

Russia then charges us $200 - $400 a barrel.

And thus the dominos fall.

I say put a sniper bullet in Ahmadinejad's head. Obama doesn't have the mellons though.

I think we should threaten to deliberate on a resolution to send a letter regarding a special hearing on drafting a letter of intent to express condemnation.

The thought of Pakistan with nukes scares me as
much if not more.

#7 | Posted by tiger150

Oh oh! You shouldn't'a posted this. The Wanker (a.k.a. Tosser) is gonna rip you a new one and crawl up inside. The Paks are all peaceful and loving and kum-ba-yah and Care Bear, doncha know.

George Carlin once declared that the United States will just have to get used to the idea of a Nuclear Iran. Let's face it folks. They aren't dumb. They saw how their neighbors were attacked by the United States and they do not want to be another victim of American Arrogance once again. Welcome to the club.

Larry

fear mongers will win. they always do. scare headlines in big fonts are the first indication. watch 'em come scurrying in and say, "what? what's up???"

Pulitzer and Hearst are looking up from hell and laughing like hyenas.

"Interesting, no suggestions for what action to take from the Riiight..."

How does the right react or suggest when the admin. can't keep their story straight? This is the Obama stance six months ago:

"Hillary Clinton says ABM system hinges on Iran's actions"

Hey Doc, here is a suggestion from the "right":

Do not allow Iran to build a bomb, 'cause they WILL use it.

Now, I am not suggesting war or military strikes, we are not at that point yet. but we have to impose very damaging sactions with the THREAT of military action. Hate to say it, but Isreal & Cheney have been correct ALL ALONG. Iran has played the world, the Left & the media like a cheap banjo. This "new" facility took at least 6 yrs to build, prolly closer to a decade. & they did all this while claiming "peacefull" intentions. this facility is NOT configured for peacefull purposes, it is configured for war .... it can NOT be allowed to be brought on-line ..... EVER.

You start with diplomacy (STRONG diplomacy) & I think Pres Obama showed that today. This is where Obama needs to take a page from Reagan & even Clinton & show some backbone, while forgetting the Jimmy Carter past. This can hopefully be solved peacefully, but the Big O needs to weild a BIG stick to ensure that & he needs to convey he's willing to USE the BIG stick to make the peacefull outcome stand.

"Ahmadinejad is a fanatic much like Hitler. He is psycho."

He's a puppet.

He doesn't get to make decisions.

If Iran drops a nuke on Israel, they will surely retaliate... in fact, they may not even wait for that to happen. Israel may act with a preemptive strike.

Iran would surely be pissed and would then stop the flow of oil to Israel and it's allies (that would be us) either by choice or because of damage.

#18 | Posted by Dont_TreadonMe

You really should proof what you write before you post. A little research would help too.

Suggest you go to the following link and scroll down just a bit to the table of countries to which Iran exports oil:

The nuke proliferation bubble was burst and created when Israel illegally developed their own nukes. Israel has readily demonstrated that it can be an aggressive nation that will not hesitate to commit war crimes against civilians and others if it is in their interests. I don't trust either Iran or Israel.

But the question of hypocrisy and fairness comes into play. How is Israel permitted by the UN and G8 to refuse to allow inspections when Iran is required to do so?

"Interesting, no suggestions for what action to take from the Riiight, except for Fwthom and he's obviously delusional."

The iranian nuclear facilities should have been taken out way back when it was first discovered they HAD nuclear facilities. It wouuld have been a minor mission (ala the Syrian adventure by Israel.) We decided to "jaw-jaw" though, and as a result there are no easy options for us at this point. So...lets do some more jaw-jaw and wait for Israel to make the difficult choices. Look for them to do it if Russia starts shipping those AAW missiles. I'd be interested in knowing what the administration will do when it happens...and it WILL happen. I, for one, believe Netanyahu.

It's your move Mr.Obama.

Boy.

That inspires confidence.

The Age of Chocolate Carter is upon us...

"but the Big O needs to weild a BIG stick to ensure that & he needs to convey he's willing to USE the BIG stick to make the peacefull outcome stand."

Iran slams Obama gov't at UN, says US must change
Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:38pm EST

UNITED NATIONS, Feb 26 (Reuters) - Iran went on the offensive against the Obama administration on Thursday, accusing Washington's new U.N. ambassador of making the "same tired" accusations against Iran as the Bush administration.

In a speech to the Security Council during a session on Iraq, U.S. envoy Susan Rice reiterated charges of Iranian support for terrorism and attempts to develop nuclear weapons, saying the United States sought an end to both policies.

"It is unfortunate that, yet again, we are hearing the same tired, unwarranted and groundless allegations that used to be unjustifiably and futilely repeated by the previous administration," Iran's envoy Mohammad Khazaee said in a letter to the council's president, Japanese Ambassador Yukio Takasu.

"Instead of raising allegations against others, the United States had better take concrete and meaningful steps in correcting its past wrong policies and practices vis-a-vis other nations, including the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Khazaee's remarks were among the most critical of the new U.S. administration by a senior Iranian official. Iran is not in the Security Council and no Iranian official attended the meeting at which Rice spoke.

The comments on Iran by Rice, who sits in the cabinet of President Barack Obama, were made almost in passing during a periodic Security Council review of U.N. activities in Iraq.

U.S. policy "will seek an end to Iran's ambition to acquire an illicit nuclear capacity and its support for terrorism," Rice told the 15 council members.

Obama, Rice and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have said repeatedly that Washington would use all tools, including direct talks, to deal with Iran's nuclear program, which Tehran says is for peaceful purposes.

I say let Iran have their nukes.

If they choose to use them on anybody, it'll give all the nutjobs the excuse they've been looking for to wipe Iran off the map.

At what target and carrying what sort of payload?

#6 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

A MIRV'd payload of nasty rhetoric aimed at all Israeli settlements mounted on the new Estes Aerotech Astrobee D rocket.

Interesting, no suggestions for what action to take from the Riiight, except for Fwthom and he's obviously delusional.

#17 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

I nominate this as the most idiotic post from Savis since 9:50

It's your move Mr.Obama.

#1 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Where do you think that Iran is getting all this nuke tech and materiels?

There is more than one player on the Dark Side of this chess board.

Israel better be careful. They may finally get what they coming to them.

Israel better be careful. They may finally get what they coming to them.

#35 | Posted by jackass

What, a new territory after the smoke clears?

Netanyahu

Given the language spoken at the fucking joke called the "U.N." over the past two days, I think one can safely conclude that Netanyahu is now the leader of the free world.

Thank you ZOT... but I wasn't implying that Iran supplies directly to Israel and the US. When you take out their supply without reducing Demand, price goes up.

Basic econ 101. ZOT

But thanks for the effort none the less.

I suggest a quick strike against all nuclear targets within Iran with Israel leading the way and the US doing the refueling and supplying the bombs. If in doubt use small nukes. It would also be cool to use the atomic cannon. Check the wind before the raid and make sure it's blowing toward China and Pakistan.

#14 | Posted by fwthom

Then what, General?

Ready to pony up $20 a gallon for gas (if you can get it at all) because you just stopped up one of the major oil exporters to the world?

Ready for martial law across the US because there will be retaliation.

Ready to go talon to claw with the Russians?

Ready for the entire Middle East and Muslim world to start killing all Anglos on sight?

Are you ready?

Given the language spoken at the fucking joke called the "U.N." over the past two days, I think one can safely conclude that Netanyahu is now the leader of the free world.

#37 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao

A-fucking-men.

" Armed with the disclosure of a secret Iranian nuclear facility, President Barack Obama and the leaders of France and Britain demanded Friday that Tehran fully disclose its nuclear ambitions "or be held accountable" to an impatient world community.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy said Iran has until December to comply or face new sanctions. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown accused Iran of "serial deception."

Said Obama: "Iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow."

Their dramatic joint statement opened the G-20 economic summit.

Obama urged the International Atomic Energy Agency to investigate the site."

A bunch of religious kooks kicked out of europe and come to the new world = settlement of eastern colonies = need for muscle to grow colonies = slavery = newfound economic strength = political unrest = england gets worried = conflict = colonists win revolution = "God is on our side" = some real religious kooks kicked out of eastern seaboard colonies and begin to move westward = thoughts of the promised land but more importantly a new realization of being the "chosen people" = Manifest destiny, the first neoconservative movement = settlement of the western frontier = zealous crusade against the native american peoples = successful settlement of entire contiguous US = white supremacy/christian/american superemacy = thoughts turned to "moral obligations to the rest of the world to spread this supremacy" = late 19th century republican progressivism = put into play by deputy secretary of the Navy Teddy Roosevelt = successful war against spain in 1898 = generation of social interventionists now in govt = Wilsonian interventionist doctrines = american involvement in WWI = ignoring pressing issues at home = depression = further rise of socialism in america = FDR = involvement in WWII = planned interventionism elsewhere in the world = more resources needed = need for oil = Legitimately elected Iranian pres Mossedegh's overthrow by CIA after nationalizing oil reserves in Iran = thirty years of puppet govt. brutality in Iran by the shah regime = Iranian revolution = hostage crisis = america exposed = unquenchable american anger for revenge = america supporting dictator saddam hussein regime in iraq = finanical and military support and letting american companies sell hussein WMD to kill iranians = iran/iraq war = 1 million dead iranians = saddam getting a big ego and beleiving in iraq's "manifest destiny" = invasion of kuwait by iraq = threatened US oil reserves = gulf war I = american troops stationed in ME including Saudi Arabia = keeping saddam alive but contained to secure oil and in hopes he'll kowtow to america again = further defiance = continued sanctions = 500,000 dead iraqi kids = continued US presence in the middle east = angry people all over middle east calling for accountability = radical policial/religious movements to remove american influence form the ME = 9-11 = war on terror = invasion of afghanistan = rise of pro-israel neocons dicatating foreign policy through well-constructed lies and media propaganda = invasion of iraq = hardline leadership in iran becoming even moreso after seeing continued meddling from a country that has been meddling for over 100 years = ???

= will america ever learn?

....ask me if I care.........

....ask me if I care.........

Russia then charges us $200 - $400 a barrel.

#18 | Posted by Dont_TreadonMe at 2009-09-25 09:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

Just don't drill in ANWR or California.

"= will america ever learn?"

C'mon, Nerdherder...quit taking up space on the threads and get back to the rest of the nerds.

you don't agree?

then get in line with the fearmongers. its the back of the boat for you.

may the farce be with you...

#42 | Posted by NerfHerder

Most people outgrow Zinn by the time they're sophmores.

Dumbass.

go squeeze your pimples jak. fearmonger.

At what target and carrying what sort of payload?

#6 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-09-25 09:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

Senile_Drunk_Dwarf is ready to negotiate with psychotic terrorists:

You can nuke Tel Aviv, but please, oh please don't nuke Budapest!

Go ahead and nuke Rome (filthy Catholics!) but don't nuke Kiev, see, the love of my life lives there, and I've been sending her money for 6 years, and she's gonna come to me soon ...

Oh, yeah, you can have Paris, Jerusalem, London, New York ... whatever

* "Diplomacy: Barack Obama supports tough and direct diplomacy with Iran without preconditions. Now is the time to use the power of American diplomacy to pressure Iran to stop their illicit nuclear program, support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel. Obama and Biden will offer the Iranian regime a choice. If Iran abandons its nuclear program and support for terrorism, we will offer incentives like membership in the World Trade Organization, economic investments, and a move toward normal diplomatic relations. If Iran continues its troubling behavior, we will step up our economic pressure and political isolation. In carrying out this diplomacy, we will coordinate closely with our allies and proceed with careful preparation. Seeking this kind of comprehensive settlement with Iran is our best way to make progress."

July 12, 2009

it seems to me that israel has been trying to point this out for a couple of years...meanwhile we kiss izzie arse in deecee today - hundreds of millions will probably show up if the maelstrom media has their way...er, in print.

they need it for energy purposes.

the left

May Hashem be with israel in this matter.

awesome.

lets see if this triggers the appocalypse.

the righties are ready to start nuking away and get their spirtitual masterbation on.

#52 | Posted by vernon | Flag: POSTING WHILE INTOXICATED

"the righties are ready to start nuking away and get their spirtitual masterbation on."

Obvious Seymour Hersh fan.

israel isn't going to do shit hahahhahahah

"hashem" hasn't been with them since they worshiped the golden lamb or calf or whatever idol they were dancing around.

nanc must be one of those rapture-ready koo-koo's right? wrong?

If in doubt use small nukes. It would also be cool to use the atomic cannon. Check the wind before the raid and make sure it's blowing toward China and Pakistan.

#14 | Posted by fwthom at 2009-09-25 09:49 AM

That is so stupid I do not know where to begin.

May Hashem be with israel in this matter.

..or at least tanker support.

iraq wasn't enough. the religious right and the israel-firsters want to gin up another war against iran and kill thousands more savage brownskinned heathens so it can continue its lame-assed attempts at overturning roe vs. wade here at home.

jak se mao knows he can blow the religious right and the israelis non-stop without fear of further impregnation.

if more people would realize that israel is the key to ALL end time events, their hearts and minds would rest easier knowing just WHO is in charge.

jak, your insults are without substance. you come across as an old fat pompus queen who rubs himself with a toy ICBM all night.

It's your move Mr.Obama.

#1 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Human guinea pigs! Israel Forces People to Drink Uranium?
By: WideningGyre
L

"Drinking juice laced with uranium is just one of many clinical trials allegedly conducted at an Israeli nuclear plant.
A human rights activist has accused the plant's management of forcing its workers to take part in life-threatening experiments for the sake of nuclear developments.
They also claim the government and the military are involved in a cover-up of the tests."

if more people would realize that israel is the key to ALL end time events, their hearts and minds would rest easier knowing just WHO is in charge.
#67 | Posted by nanc

For people with rational minds that sentiment is in no way reassuring.

Interesting, no suggestions for what action to take from the Riiight, except for Fwthom and he's obviously delusional.

#17 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Nice deflection.

BTW, Do these qualify as WMD's?

Tell me, Doc, since you represent the "mainstream" of American politics(LOL, whatever that means), How the hell is this different from when Saddam was doing the same thing?

Before you deflect more...
I didn't support the Iraq war for many reasons. I also think that Bush and Obama, both are bad for America and both play the 2 sides against the middle, so to speak to accomplish their different agendas helping their special interests.

Also, I really don't want any US troops on Iranian soil, for family reasons. If Obama attacks Iran, we will turn 72 million allies (Iranians living in Iran and abroad) into instant enemies.

If Obama gets other countries to help with this, then he's earned my respect. That would be an amazing accomplishment.

"if more people would realize that israel is the key to ALL end time events, their hearts and minds would rest easier knowing just WHO is in charge."

the end-timers are all soiling themselves silly today aren't they? who's gonna run the soft inspirational christian rock radio stations when their all gone????

if more people would realize that israel is the key to ALL end time events, their hearts and minds would rest easier knowing just WHO is in charge.

#67 | Posted by nanc

End time?? What the hell are blabbering about today? You aren't intelligent enough to be in charge of a lemonade stand.

whatever happens, France is onboard. Sarkozy is president and we all know where he takes his orders from.

" israel is the key to ALL end time events"

hahahahhahahahahahhahahahahaha
hahha

"their hearts and minds would rest easier knowing just WHO is in charge."

who is in charge??

you guys want to bring on the end times.
sounds like YOU are in charge (you as doomsday assholes like you and your "kin")

that doesn't ease my mind at all.

"jak, your insults are without substance. you come across as an old fat pompus queen who rubs himself with a toy ICBM all night."

ICBM? Make that an IRBM or SAM. Or possibly a crossbow bolt.

Christians are using the Jews to bring about the Apocalypse. They don't care about the Jewish people as they think we are going to Hell along with the Muslims they keep us fighting.

One .50 cal sniper bullet to the Ahmadinejad's noggin.

Message sent

Message received

Irony is someone whose screen name is "Don't Tread on Me" advocating the assassination of the leader of an independent country.

Re #71 | Posted by Eddie:

"Nice deflection."
Noting that nobody on the Riiight had come up with anything? That was a fact, Eddie, not a deflection.

"BTW, Do these qualify as WMD's?"
Do what qualify as WMDs, Eddie? You do realize that this story does not talk about Iran currently possessing a nuke, don't you?

"How the hell is this different from when Saddam was doing the same thing?"

The Iranians are actually working with nuclear technology. Saddam wasn't.

"If Obama gets other countries to help with this, then he's earned my respect. That would be an amazing accomplishment."

We agree.

Interventionism is donttreadonme's middle name-- an obvious interventionist using libertarianism to hide his true colors. he probably calls people neville chamberlain while he dreams of driving a big shiny jeep through downtown paris/baghdad/tehran in a victory parade.

kanrei... my jewish friends and i both think muslims and jews are extremely similar in our faiths.

we should join up and stop team christian haha

the only reason jews and muslims are fighting today is cause of germany and the "christian right"

Kliff,
We agree on that.

It is probably the deeply religious' deepest fears that one day the Billion plus Muslims and the 100K or so Jews will realize we are in the same race together and will combine.

"Hey obama, here's your chance to deflect all that criticism coming from home. focus on iran! we'll make it worth your while!" -bennynut, twiddling fingers in joy

"Sounds good. Hey, Britain, Germany, France-- Iran is bad! Forget about what is going on in your countries-- the threat is iran! i didn't say it, bennynut did!"

"we obey" (France, Britain, Germany)

Great song lyrics here that apply 100%

The natives are restless tonight, sir
Cooped up on estates with no hope in sight
They need some kind of distraction
We can give them that
'Cause they'd die if they only had something to die for
They'd kill if they only had something to kill for
They'd cheer if they only had something to cheer for
Yeah, we can give them that
So it's off to war we go (I never believed it)
Bring out all the flags (I never believed it)
Fight the good fight

It's working like a dream, sir
Half the nation are hooked on the bait
Waiting for the next victorious installment
Yeah, we can give them that
'Cause it's no surprise that young men are heroes
It's no surprise that young men are strong
It's no surprise that young men are foolish
We've known that all along
Exciting pictures on News at Ten (I never believed it)
Read all the crap on all the front pages (I never believed it)
Fight the good fight

The Spirit of the Falklands by New Model Army

KANREI... while I understand what you're trying to imply...

When that leader... and I use the term loosely... is advocating wiping another country off the face of the earth, advocates using children to blow themselves up in the name of their religion, treats female rape victims as adultresses and thus allows them to be stoned to death, sees women as property instead of equal human beings, AND shows other signs of irrational behavior (yes, referring to the return of the 12th Imam) all the while developing weapons capable of starting a nuclear holocaust...

Yeah... I, think I can make an argument for that in this particular case without compromising my fundamental beliefs.

"The U.S. official said Washington has been tracking indications of the secret project for years"
Another heck of a job, Bushie.

NK sets off a nuke under your nose, Iran builds secret nuke sites and Russia invades Gergia and all you had was "Now, watch this drive."

When that leader... and I use the term loosely... is advocating wiping another country off the face of the earth, advocates using children to blow themselves up in the name of their religion, treats female rape victims as adultresses and thus allows them to be stoned to death, sees women as property instead of equal human beings, AND shows other signs of irrational behavior (yes, referring to the return of the 12th Imam) all the while developing weapons capable of starting a nuclear holocaust...

Not your country though. You are not Israeli, are you? Iranian? Then it has nothing to do with you. You completely are a hypocrite.

the end-timers are all soiling themselves silly today aren't they? who's gonna run the soft inspirational christian rock radio stations when their all gone????

Zombie,
I think the song in my #86 actually works better with this one.

I've never heard that one... now consulting the youtubes...

"Interesting, no suggestions for what action to take from the Riiight"

How about Obama does what he said he would do? That'd be a start.

Are you ready?

FWTHOM has his Bible, 37 roles of duct tape and a big ass roll of 9 mil poly. He's ready for anything.

Except reality.

We don't need to nuke Iran-just gather up all the tough guys here and drop them into Iran to take care of the problem. They'll be greeted as liberators. Honest.

OK good shit!

hey donttreadonme, focus on yer own country. we have a sizeable population that does believe in the same end times crap that Iran does. Look at the poster NANC above. She's part of a rapture-ready group that supports israel and looks forward to nucluear armageddon. it says so in their book of magic. and those people have people in power here. Shouldn't you first focus on weeding that out in yer own country???? Or are you too scared to look in the mirror?

You talk of Iran stoning people to deaath, yet hundreds of thousands of babies are murdered in this country each year. How about turning some of that moral clarity on your own? Huh? Or is just walking around a clinic with a poster of a fetus good enough cuz you don't believe in violence even though you don't care when non-christians are murdered by the thousands overseas in the name of keeping your ass safe back home?

And you talk about irrational behavior? Do you seriously think Bush wwas rational when he said that God told him to invade Iraq? At least Ahmadinejad has no real power.

You are a hypocrite to the upteenth degree. Pathetic snivelling interventionist american. grow a pair, K?

New Model Army rocks! Buy the Vengeance album ZH, you will LOVE it.

We don't need to nuke Iran-just gather up all the tough guys here and drop them into Iran to take care of the problem.

Why drop them into Iran? Do you hate Iranians that much?

I say tie a cannon to their bootstraps and send them to Davey Jones' locker.

Iran deserves a nuke or ten just like everyone else. And it serves the radical Islamists we bow down to well to have them. Then they can take down the evil two a notch or two, speaking of the US and Israel.

Sincerely,

-Doc and his merry band of apologist dwarves

Good for them. Nuclear power is the way to go.

KANREI.... Doesn't have anything to do with the US???? Are you that naive?

That has to be the most ridiculous thing I've read in all the threads on Drudge.

I'll just say this... There are people who led this nation that had similar philosophies as what you're describing prior to 12/7/41. How did that work out? Do you even know the signifance of that date without using Google???

I swear... how many times does history have to repeat itself before people learn from it?

It is ironic that, in a push to abandon fossil fuels and embrace more "Green tech," that we should forbid one of the biggest producers of said fossil fuels access to a green tech.

Only the United States and Israel are entitled to have weapons of mass destruction. Everyone else is a terrorist.

Here in Vegas, there is an Atomic Testing Museum, which won't mention all the premature citizen deaths they delivered to the downwinders.

But I think I'll go see the Van Morrison Concert tonight instead, at the Hard Rock Hotel.

I'll just say this... There are people who led this nation that had similar philosophies as what you're describing prior to 12/7/41. How did that work out? Do you even know the signifance of that date without using Google???

You are a fool if you believe half the Japanese navy can sail across the Pacific and "surprise" the entire US Navy.

That has to be the most ridiculous thing I've read in all the threads on Drudge.

I knew you didn't read what you wrote!

When is he going to do it?
#101 | Posted by JOE

You really can't do any of your own research, can you, Joe? Try "October 1" and see if that leads you anywhere. Tell the folks at LegalZoom you're trolling for new marks.

#100 | Posted by The_Chapel | Flag: Makes Shit Up

One other thought... I find it rather odd that some people on this thread will defend Iran's (a nation that supports terrorism) right to have nuclear power and yet will chain themselves to a tree when the US want's to build their own.

and Kanrei wants to talk about Hypocrisy!!!

#108 | Posted by Dont_TreadonMe at 2009-09-25 11:27 AM | Reply | Flag: Should just type "Duh" and appear smarter

(a nation that supports terrorism)

Hmm,

I say put a sniper bullet in Ahmadinejad's head. Obama doesn't have the mellons though.

#18 | Posted by Dont_TreadonMe at 2009-09-25 09:54 AM

Isn't that terrorism? Assassination of a world leader?

"The U.S. official said Washington has been tracking indications of the secret project for years"
Another heck of a job, Bushie.

NK sets off a nuke under your nose, Iran builds secret nuke sites and Russia invades Gergia and all you had was "Now, watch this drive."

#89 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-09-25 11:11 AM

Of course your fucking hero just waffled on the Missile Shield, because Iran has changed their ways.

It is ironic that, in a push to abandon fossil fuels and embrace more "Green tech," that we should forbid one of the biggest producers of said fossil fuels access to a green tech.

#104 | Posted by kanrei

What he said.

"right to have nuclear power "

i find it ironic that a country that has the right to get nuclear energy and has signed the NPT can still be denied their international right.

Of course your fucking hero just waffled on the Missile Shield, because Iran has changed their ways.

#111 | Posted by crispee_oc

Are these Liberal fucks all drunk or high today?

Are these Liberal fucks all drunk or high today?

Posted by wisgod

Just today?

"just waffled on the Missile Shield, "

my ass

a missle shield in poland is no reason to get into a tiff with russia.

iran isn't going to attack poland.

stupid rightwingers

"stupid rightwingers"

Posted by klifferd

Is there any other kind?

President Obama, please don't punt. You were elected for such a time as this...

You're right KANREI... I forgot... Bush traveled back in time and sent a memo to the Japanese fleet giving them the go ahead so he could somehow increase his oil holdings in the future and give Haliburton more No bid contracts.

I know those don't really seem to fit together... but it doesn't matter since I'm blaming Bush for Pearl Harbor and it involves a conspiracy to get Dick Chenney more money for a company he doesn't work for. You can blame those two for anything and get agreement from the lefty wackjobs.

P.S. We didn't really land on the moon, it was all on a movie set... Elvis was abducted by aliens... Big Foot was really Manute Bol after puberty and Pee Wee Herman was a Catholic Priest.

Ok KANREI... are we in agreement now???

Shouldn't you first focus on weeding that out in yer own country???? Or are you too scared to look in the mirror?

These "Christian soldiers" are batfuck insane, but even people as disagreeable as that do not need to be "weeded out" in America. In America you have the freedom to believe what you want, even if it is fucking retarded. The bible-thumpers can be exposed as hypocrites and marginalized so they do not take power, but there's no need to actively suppress them.

We do not need to treat fundies as the regime in Iran treats the Baha'i, for example. We can just point, laugh, and teach schoolkids how to think properly. A little education goes a long way toward dispelling the myths of the ignorant.

As far as Iran goes, they have a right to nuclear energy. You can't prevent a sufficiently industrialized country from developing nuclear technology. First, you would have to conquer Iran to prevent rather than delay the development of enriched uranium. Hundreds of thousands would be slaughtered. Second, Iran is producing low-enriched uranium... not high-enriched uranium or plutonium which could be used in a bomb. An Iranian bomb is years away. Ahmadinejad talks a lot of shit, but he is powerless when it comes to Iranian foreign policy.

Here is a serious question I want those who support the Missile shield to answer. Please think about your answer before responding:

Why is it OK for us to place missiles in Poland when we almost started WW3 to keep missiles out of Cuba?

You're right KANREI... I forgot... Bush traveled back in time and sent a memo to the Japanese fleet giving them the go ahead so he could somehow increase his oil holdings in the future and give Haliburton more No bid contracts.

You are a moron. No further responses will follow.

Iran may eventually make a bomb. They won't use it in a first strike. As insane as Ahmadinejad and a few clerics of youtube fame may be, it is not in the interests of Iran to use a bomb on Israel or transfer it to a third party. Those with real power won't allow it.

There is a certain advantage that comes with being thought of as unstable and belligerant. Several American presidents have employed the "madman strategy".

"BTW, Do these qualify as WMD's?"
Do what qualify as WMDs, Eddie? You do realize that this story does not talk about Iran currently possessing a nuke, don't you?

#80 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Yes, I understand that. I tell you what, I'll assert that I see little difference between Iraq having WMD's and looking to improve their technology andwhat Iran is doing now. Both got the World's attention, didn't it? Do you deny that?

Why is it OK for us to place missiles in Poland when we almost started WW3 to keep missiles out of Cuba?
#121 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-09-25 11:42 AM |

Keeping the missiles out and stopping the spread of Communism in the western hemisphere probably prevented WWIII.

Why is it OK for us to place missiles in Poland when we almost started WW3 to keep missiles out of Cuba?

They are 2 different types of missile... the interceptors couldn't be used to stage an attack, whereas the missiles that were going to be stationed in Cuba were strategic nuclear missiles. Apples and oranges.

If you want a comparison to the Cuban missile crisis, it already happened. The US deployed intermediate range missiles (Pershing II I think) to Europe during the Regan admin. They could reach Moscow in 10-15 minutes and carry sizable nuclear payloads.

Why is it OK for us to place missiles in Poland when we almost started WW3 to keep missiles out of Cuba?

You seem to have an affliction that results in your conflating moral equivalence with intellect.

I see little difference between Iraq having WMD's and looking to improve their technology andwhat Iran is doing now.

Iraq used their WMD's on several occasions (sometimes targeting Iran)... and years later when the US invaded they didn't have any.

KANREI... I use sarcasm and your only response is to call me a moron, then take your ball and go home. Fine with me brother... best wishes and God Bless. :-D

Just today?

#115 | Posted by kanrei

Your right. Since Jan. 20th, 2009.

They are 2 different types of missile... the interceptors couldn't be used to stage an attack, whereas the missiles that were going to be stationed in Cuba were strategic nuclear missiles. Apples and oranges.

That works, thanks ZH.

"Yawn"
--- The Left ---

Your right. Since Jan. 20th, 2009.

#130 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-09-25 11:56 AM

How about July 2004 at the DNC Convention? When the media and dems propped up this experienced, seasoned, articulate politician.

The only problem is that all the jaw-jaw isn't going to work out well for Israel. But they can go fuck themselves, right?

#16 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2009-09-25 09:51 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Right.

Why is it OK for us to place missiles in Poland when we almost started WW3 to keep missiles out of Cuba?

You seem to have an affliction that results in your conflating moral equivalence with intellect.

#127 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao

What? Really? Do you understand what you just said? LOL.

It's a valid question.

Interesting, no suggestions for what action to take from the Riiight, except for Fwthom and he's obviously delusional.

#17 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS AT 2009-09-25 09:52 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

hmmmm. how about hard sanctions now. if continues, take out the facilities. if no spine, nod and wink to Israel to do it.

POTUS won't do it though, and we'll have to deal with much more troubling issues after they have a nuke + delivery systems.

Here's a question. Why would Iran attack anyone?

Do you understand what you just said?

Do you realize who you're talking about? This is Jak Se Mao... he gives Tadowe a run for his money in the category of rambling lunatics.

Don't believe me? Stay tuned. As soon as Jak finishes jerkin' all three centimeters of what God gave him, he'll put his daddy's pictures of naked Hiroshima survivors back into the shoebox and start whining again.

Here's a question. Why would Iran attack anyone?

#137 | Posted by RastaCyborg

Cause their Leaders are fucking insane.

Rastacyborg...We aren't worried about Iran attacking someone, we are concerned with Iran supplying someone with the weapons to attack someone.

Here's a question. Why would Iran attack anyone?

#137 | Posted by RastaCyborg

"Cause their Leaders are fucking insane."

#139 | Posted by wisgod

Wizzy,

That's pure bullshit!!! The USA had a fucking insane leader for 8 years and we never atta...

Oh......never mind.

Some on here are providing a scenario of "Iran dropping the bomb on Israel."
Let's look:

Iran = Signed NPT Israel = Did not sign the NPT
Iran = No nukes Israel = Have nukes

When was the last time you saw Iran bombing someone?

Yet AIPAC (and their loyalists) continue to antagonize the US into confrontation with Israel's enemies.
Blame it on oil if you want, but those pushing the US into war are Neocon/ Dual-Israeli-firsters.

Israel's enemies are our enemies? Really?

Wizzy,

That's pure bullshit!!! The USA had a fucking insane leader for 8 years and we never atta...

Oh......never mind.

#141 | Posted by axe

And he didn't have the backing of Congre...Oh.....never mind.

Weren't we supposed to save disarming the ABM shiled for getting Iran to cooperate more?

Don't believe me? Stay tuned. As soon as Jak finishes jerkin' all three centimeters of what God gave him, he'll put his daddy's pictures of naked Hiroshima survivors back into the shoebox and start whining again.

#138 | Posted by ZombieHunter

LOL!! funny flag.

"Yes... Iran would use the nuke in a NY minute. Ahmadinejad is a fanatic much like Hitler. He is psycho. Psycho's do not think rationally and therefore does not understand nor care about the reprecussions of a nuclear holocaust."

full text from Ahmadinejad speech to UN the other day...

You seem to have an affliction that results in your conflating moral equivalence with intellect.

It's nice seeing mao still not answering questions and throwing insults instead. Mao, done a good job with your worshipping understudy...JeffJ is just like ya now.

Who gives a crap about Iran.

Wizzy,

That's pure bullshit!!! The USA had a fucking insane leader for 8 years and we never atta...

Oh......never mind.

#141 | Posted by axe

And he didn't have the backing of Congre...Oh.....never mind.

#143 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-09-25 12:44 PM | Reply | Flag

At least the 911 commission got the TRUTH on 911 and Bush had NOTHING to do wi......oh wait a minute...

Who gives a crap about Iran.

#149 | Posted by moneywar

Obviously not our C.I.C., Rahm.

"Just don't drill in ANWR or California.

#45 | Posted by vernon"

Why should we? Oil's going to be at $30/barrel any day now, right Vernie? Nostravernus all the way.

Sep 25 09:19
Iranian President Ahmadinejad Booted From Third New York Hotel

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, had another door slammed in his face Thursday when a third New York venue refused to allow the Holocaust-denying leader a place to throw a reception while he was in town for the United Nations General Assembly.
Webmaster's Commentary:

"Step back and study how this must look to the rest of the world."

#153...

How far is the UN from New Haven? I am surprised Yale didn't offer to take him and allow him a speaking platform. If he was a Taliban he would be welcome with open arms.

How far is the UN from New Haven? I am surprised Yale didn't offer to take him and allow him a speaking platform. If he was a Taliban he would be welcome with open arms.

#154 | Posted by crispee_oc

or maybe with my brother living at the Dakotas ~ geez, what wrong with those NEO~CONs? owners of hotel chains?

Outfoxing the 9/11 Coverup

With the 9/11 Commission rescinding their own report, 9/11 debunking machine is now our "smoking gun".

Here's a question. Why would Iran attack anyone?
#137 | Posted by RastaCyborg

why would they deny the holocaust?

why would they promise to push Israel into the sea?

why would they supply weapons to kill Americans?

why would they persecute homosexuals?

why would they sponsor terrorists?

why would they build facilities with which they can build nuclear weapons?

they're, in fact, insane. they cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.

All this talk about tough talk from Obama and harsh sanctions. What a bunch of crap it all is. Iran will not stop until they have a bomb and several if they can make them. There is nothing we can say or do, short of taking the facilities out, that will stop Iran from reaching its goal. Why you all are even discussing alternatives like there actually are any is beyond me.

there is something we can do

israel....fire when ready

and forget the rantings of ziegwhatshisname..from the carter 'milaise' years who wants us to shoot them down if they cross iraqui air space.

To follow up. Has there been one single thing that has even slowed Iran down? Has any country out there done one single thing that has hampered Iran's goal of nuclear proliferation? The answer is no and there is nothing that can be done, unless you side with taking out the reactors. If you don't think we should do that then just STFU, because nothing you are suggesting will work.

sanctions that come from us and russia and china would go a long way.

but its interesting from the un talks.

akmadid... and obama are on the same page if you believe the little shit in the really bad jacket...

#159. what's funny is people stating that Iran signed the NPT (when Israel did not) as some great act of expressing a sincere desire for peace.

on the contrary, it's a clear expression of their lack of trustworthiness. afka's right. either we do it directly, or give the green light to israel.

it is a time for action, not talk. if it's put off, the landscape will change irretrievably.

and the thing about this announcement is
just WHO in the country is surprised that there is a place like this one that is apparently not suited for nuclear energy but weapons instead

is there ANYONE who is honestly surprised?

why would they deny the holocaust?

why would they promise to push Israel into the sea?

why would they supply weapons to kill Americans?

why would they persecute homosexuals?

why would they sponsor terrorists?

why would they build facilities with which they can build nuclear weapons?

they're, in fact, insane. they cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.

#156 | Posted by somoco

ur talking about Israel ~ right?

is there ANYONE who is honestly surprised?

#162 | Posted by afkabl2

not Jimmy Carter

which is why the dems didn't invite him to Denver...

Let's repost the latest
911 smoking gun report that ends Neo-con shill work for nuking Iran for awhile ~ one would thinK!

Sep-24-2009 14:26printcomments
Outfoxing the 9/11 Coverup
Gordon Duff Salem-News.com

With the 9/11 Commission rescinding their own report, 9/11 debunking machine is now our "smoking gun".

"Geopolitical theorists accuse Murdoch of orchestrating a plan for Israel to draw America into a wide set of conflicts in the Middle East, tying down forces for many years, while Israel extends broad economic influence into Georgia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan. The massive oil and gas reserves of the area, formerly the Jewish Kazhak empire, represent one of the greatest economic prizes in the world.

"Only Iran threatens Israel's goals in this area.

"Over 40 years ago, the US and Israel engaged in a false flag operation against an American warship called the USS Liberty. The plan was for Israel to attack and sink an American ship, kill the crew and the US would blame Egypt, invade and oust Soviets from the Middle East and control the worlds oil supply.

"A Russian spy ship observed and filmed the attack. The Israeli pilots went public. American naval officers reported White House involvement in the plot and it failed.

"We only know that 9/11 was not what we were told it was and that it is being covered up by propagandists tied to Israeli extremists. Can we make assumptions from this? I say no but we can and should ask questions"

they're, in fact, insane. they cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.

They find it advantageous to present an "insane" image at the moment. There's a difference. Yes, their government is run by religious fools that do predictably foolish things to appease their pie in the sky. Similar things could be said regarding the governments of the US and Israel.

Iran will eventually develop a bomb should they choose to do so. There is no gurantee that they will develop a bomb, and the chances of it being used in a first strike are practically zero. The chances of it even being tested are low - they could take a position of "nuclear ambiguity" like Israel does. There is far too much to lose and too little to gain in a first strike.

Short of annihilating or occupying the country, there is nothing that anyone can do to stop their development of nuclear technology. Sanctions harm Iranian citizens and are ineffective. A conventional attack would at best delay the development of a nuke and start a war in the process.

Iran could gain some serious credibility and gain some world sympathy, if they guaranteed that they will not develop nuclear weapons, and they will allow inspections throughout their country --- IF - repeat IF Israel eliminates their nukes, signs the NPT and allows UN inspections in their country.

What's good for the goose should be good for the gander and the world would be a better place.

Thanks Bush Administration for focusing on Iraq and not North Korea and Iran. 8 years of your failed policies have allowed these lunatic regimes to develop weapons unchecked and without consequence. All talk and no action from right wing America, just like it's always been!!

LM

#168. you make me laugh. the left was so twisted in a knot that bush might do something in iran so as to essentially preclude any effective measures in that regard.

imagine if bush did something. the shower of condemnation from the left would've been relentless. don't blame the victim of the lunacy of the left.

Henceforth, Iran shall be put on double-secret probation.

- the Left

Henceforth, Iran shall be put on double-secret probation.

- the Left

#170 | Posted by somoco

Henceforth, all lies about 911 should be ignored while pursuing WW3 for Israel by nuking Iran

- the idiots

Sep-11-2009 23:46
The 9/11 Commission Rejects own Report as Based on Government Lies
Gordon Duff Salem-News.com

How long have we watered the Tree of Deceit with the blood of patriots?
The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America's Defense on 9/11
John Farmer's book: "The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America's Defense on 9/11″

(CINCINNATI, Ohio) - In John Farmer's book: "The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America's Defense on 9/11″, the author builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version... is almost entirely untrue...

I think we should threaten to deliberate on a resolution to send a letter regarding a special hearing on drafting a letter of intent to express condemnation.

#19 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao at 2009-09-25 09:55 AM

You're hired!

David Axlerod

Joe Bidden said they'd be tested.

Anyone heard from Joe? lol. Anyone? 6 months, nine months, a year?

Joe, where are you Joe?

Henceforth, all lies about 911 should be ignored while pursuing WW3 for Israel by nuking Iran
- the idiots
#171 | POSTED BY BANI AT 2009-09-25 06:14 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I think you've become unhinged. Let's say there were lies about 911. Let's say that GWB hired guys to do it, or wired the planes to crash into the building, and was thereafter successful in covering it all up.

WTF does that have to do with Iran building a bomb? Are you saying because the US blew up the trade centers on its own that Iran is still not a threat?

Again, I believe you have become unhinged with the stories regarding the alleged 911 coverup.

WTF does that have to do with Iran building a bomb? Are you saying because the US blew up the trade centers on its own that Iran is still not a threat?

Again, I believe you have become unhinged with the stories regarding the alleged 911 coverup.

#174 | Posted by somoco

ignorance is bliss, aye? how can one become unhinged when lies are basis for all oil surfing in the Mideast? which is old news, of course:>)

More on False Flag attacks here:>)

"False flag terrorism" is defined as a government attacking its own people, then blaming others in order to justify going to war against the people it blames.

This will be interesting a good test for the Messiah. There is little doubt that Israel will not tolerate a nuclear armed Iran. There is little doubt that China and Russia will veto any resolution that calls for sanctions against Iran. This of course pushes Israel into a corner.

Can y'all figure out the rest of the story?

Of course many here (guess who?) will blame Israel and ignore Russia and China's major role in turning a blind eye to the situation forcing Israel to take the only option she has.

This will be interesting a good test for the Messiah.
...

#177 | Posted by goatman

Obviously NonPartisanGoatman uses the word "messiah" in order to bait the left. The question is, why doesn't he ever bait the right, if he's nonpartisan?

The question is, why doesn't he ever bait the right, if he's nonpartisan?

That question again? How many times does it have to be answered?

How many Nuclear Weapons does the "Gutless - War Mongering - Genocidal" State of Israel have???

Gog and Magog have been unleashed.

Obama,

you know what you must do.

So much for "Pentagon intelligence"--must be an oxymoron.

They claimed just last week that Iran was not a threat and Obama announced that he would stab our allies in the back and not build the missle defense system in Poland and the CR.

Boy was that a whopper!

Now one week later the truth comes out that they have a second facility. I bet they have a third facility as well.

--------

So what to do?

Russia won't help--neither will China. They have their own self interests and having a weaker America is their interest.

1) Put in the MDS in Iraq. We are never leaving there anyway.

Put in the MDS right there in Iraq pointed at Iran.

Build a big giant base with lots of military--and a hospital to take care of the populace.

It'll be a mini Germany or mini Japan in mini Iraq.

-----

2) The other option is a blockade on Iran for sanctions. Nothing in and nothing out.

3) If those don't work--Israel will do their number on Iran and take out the two facilities.

Oil will go up to $100 - $200 a barrel. But the mission would be complete and it would settle down again.

Everyone remembers NK and their dirty lying to Clinton and then built their bombs during Bush. No help from China or Russia--they don't care. And look where they are today.

That, friends, will be Iran in two years if they are not stopped now. Israel will be bombed--I tend to believe people when they say they will wipe someone off the map. One nuke and Israel is gone--forever. Israel is in self defense mode and who can blame them?

Obama has some tough decisions--woefully unprepared and Biden has blown a gasket in the head--this is over his expertise and lack of wisdom as well.

How many Nuclear Weapons does the "Gutless - War Mongering - Genocidal" State of Israel have???

#180 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2009

anyone who uses the word gutless to describe israel proves that they dont know what the hell they are talking about
even the most anti semite here wouldnt say that unless they were from the same ilk as you are.
please...try and stay coherent.

and the answer is..they have enough to survive as long as countries like iran dont get nukes as well.

but obama KNEW THIS when he spoke to the worthless UN.

why not mention it then oh GREAT reader of the telepromter?

That, friends, will be Iran in two years if they are not stopped now. Israel will be bombed--I tend to believe people when they say they will wipe someone off the map. One nuke and Israel is gone--forever. Israel is in self defense mode and who can blame them?

For chris sakes, Murph, didn't the years of lies about Iraq teach you anything? When do politicians ever tell the truth?

American empire is in its twilight years. If either Israel or America attack Iran, it's all over - for America. I think they are going to do it at a time when Iran's allies have a financial noose around our neck.

When nations decline, they do it from the inside.

One nuke and Israel is gone--forever. Israel is in self defense mode and who can blame them?

Israel made their own bed. Let them sleep in it.

one thing history has proven time and again

dont fuck with the jews

and netenyahoo has siad it real clear

if abbas wants to be sadat or king hussein, there will be peace
if he wants to be arafat, then there will not be.

I contend a solution to the palestinian/israel situation will not stop ONE SINGLE middle east country from wanting the end of isreal.

So then you like the blockade Ray??

And if they made the bed--they get to make the decision to take Iran out.

And you are full of crap --"America empire is in it's twilight".

You are so dour Ray.

We are the greatest country on the planet.

We are the greatest country on the planet.

#187 | Posted by MURPHY

Greatest in what? That's the kind of dumbass chest-thumping tribalism that may end up killing us all.

And Ray--do you know why we are the greatest?

It's because we are BORN in America.

There is nothing special about our DNA compared to other countries--it's all the same.

But the difference is that we are born in this country.

We have the freedoms and the liberty and the opportunities to be as great as the individual desires and works hard to get.

And it comes from the Creator! hehe ;o)

#188 | Posted by nullifidian

You and Ray don't care for America--you guys should get together.

"And Ray--do you know why we are the greatest?

It's because we are BORN in America."

You sure are an airhead, Murphy. And Murphy, don't look now, but there are kids smoking pot on your lawn!

Sorry for your life Null--it must suck.

America is exceptional--Yes! We are exceptional because we are born here in the USA!

"merica is exceptional--Yes! We are exceptional because we are born here in the USA!"

No matter how much you pound your chest, you're not growing to grow much hair on it, Murphy.

#189 | Posted by MURPHY

The Greeks have a word for your mentality. It's called "hubris." History is a literal graveyard of nations who believed they were invincible. And many of them believed God was on their side.

You and Ray don't care for America--you guys should get together.

You're telling me I don't care for America. That is stupid!

Here, Murph. Take a look at this graph of the declining dollar. When the dollar goes down, America goes down with it.

We are the greatest country on the planet.

#187 | Posted by MURPHY

the 5th reich?

The question is, why doesn't he ever bait the right, if he's nonpartisan?

#178 | Posted by nullifidian

always a question isn't IT?

Of course many here (guess who?) will blame Israel and ignore Russia and China's major role in turning a blind eye to the situation forcing Israel to take the only option she has.

#177 | Posted by goatman

talk to her wonderful peaceful neighbors in a nice way?

And if they made the bed--they get to make the decision to take Iran out.

They can't do it without American support. Nobody will be fooled.

Of course many here (guess who?) will blame Israel and ignore Russia and China's major role in turning a blind eye to the situation forcing Israel to take the only option she has.

They know how financially weak we are. They might be baiting Israel.

"And Ray--do you know why we are the greatest?
It's because we are BORN in America."

Self-praise is both pathetic and irrelevant.

"Israel is in self defense mode and who can blame them?"

Since the Israelis are frothing at the mouth to bomb Iran, it is possible to make exactly the same claim about the Iranians...

Netanyahu is now the leader of the free world...

~Maosy

Amen.

~WisGAY

Look, just because he's made America his personal cum-dumpster don't mean it werks like that everywhere.

Be Well.

Israel is in self defense mode and who can blame them?

Israel is an undeclared nuclear power and such according to America's own laws should not recieve a single dollar in US AID.

If Israel nukes Iran "pre-emptively" as has been countenanced in the thread above then they would eventually have an equal and opposite reaction in reply.

That would be one way to restore peace to the middle east.

Spud still thinks that diplomacy and common decency leading to a two state solution is the preferred option.

Spud is kinda oddish that way.

Be Well.

Nothing to worry about here folks, just put your heads back in the sand.

Obama: "We must never stop until we see the day when nuclear arms have been banished from the face of the earth."
Sarkozy: "We live in the real world, not the virtual world. And the real world expects us to take decisions."

"President Obama dreams of a world without weapons but right in front of us two countries are doing the exact opposite.

"Iran since 2005 has flouted five security council resolutions. North Korea has been defying council resolutions since 1993.

"I support the extended hand of the Americans, but what good has proposals for dialogue brought the international community? More uranium enrichment and declarations by the leaders of Iran to wipe a UN member state off the map," he continued, referring to Israel.

The sharp-tongued French leader even implied that Mr Obama's resolution 1887 had used up valuable diplomatic energy.

"If we have courage to impose sanctions together it will lend viability to our commitment to reduce our own weapons and to making a world without nuke weapons," he said.

Mr Sarkozy has previously called the US president's disarmament crusade "naive."

From a goddamn Frenchman no less