but go get ur flu shots...

black helos.. run

hmmm let's see here... It is illegal to lie to the FBI. But, it is OK for the FBI to lie to Congress? Seems to me that if indeed it is "proven" that the 9/11 Commission was lied to then criminal charges should be pursued by the DOJ.

Will hell! When there's an ad for a house cleaning service on the page you got to know something has been swept under the carpet.

...is this like when the Post ran the harmless story of "Break in at the Watergate" and it exploded?

No, because Nixon eventually messed with the wrong people apparently ~ back in Aug of 1971 for starters

I think the Bush haters are far more into it than they Nixon haters ever dreamed of being.

I've felt for years that Nixon was a reincarnation of Domitian ~ the Roman Emperor ((& I beleive he might have felt that way, too, for he believed in reincarnation at times), but who knows:>)

As emperor, Domitian strengthened the economy by revaluing the Roman coinage, expanded the border defenses of the Empire, and initiated a massive building programme to restore the damaged city of Rome.

ah, the media masters continue the saga:>)

"After his death, Domitian's memory was condemned to oblivion by the Roman Senate, while senatorial authors such as Tacitus, Pliny the Younger and Suetonius published histories propagating the view of Domitian as a cruel and paranoid tyrant. Modern history has rejected these views, instead characterising Domitian as a ruthless but efficient autocrat, whose cultural, economic and political programme provided the foundation of the peaceful 2nd century"

I know Domitian was as petty as Nixon & prudish, too ~ lol

Anyone who says "Nixon was a bad President" I feel is wrong, but saying he was the worst is not wrong as he is still the only one to resign in disgrace and need a pardon.

I think the Bush haters are far more into it than they Nixon haters ever dreamed of being.

#7 | Posted by kanrei

i've magnanimously forgiven GW since he stopped Cheney & the Israel cartel from starting WW3 with Iran...may Obama pull this hat out of the rabbit, too:>)

ps Welle's "Rosebud"?

Iran's President (I am not even going to try and spell his name) seems to really want to do the WW3 Shuffle too.

My mother shook Nixon's hand as he ran for President his first term & thought him so handsome...I don't remember if I ever forgave her for that?

I have heard people say that, had he beaten Kennedy, he would have been a very different President.

Iran's President (I am not even going to try and spell his name) seems to really want to do the WW3 Shuffle too.

#12 | Posted by kanrei

takes 2 to tangle...I guess in respect I shouldn't have said to the police before they roughed me up a month ago:

"What's this ~ A Gate's redux?"

No you shouldn't. My logic tells me that if someone is looking for an excuse to kick my ass, then I am a fool if I intentionally provoke them. I am no Israel supporter, so I will not claim innocence on their part, but Iran is certainly not doing anything to calm them down at all. Rather, the opposite.

Iran has actually attacked Israel how many times?

Israel has actually attacked Iran how many times?

Hmmm....And we are complaining about Iran wanting to protect themselves.

When Allah is on one's side...only fools dare tread on the Zionist machine, i suppose ~ hence that make me a pragmatic fool at times

At least I haven't emailed the brutal police officer yet...would u like his email address?:>)

Iran has actually attacked Israel how many times?

Are you serious? There is no secret in the world that Hezbollah is paid for and controlled through Iran. Just because Iran is attacking Israel by proxy does not mean they are not attacking Israel.

Bani,
I would like to see the UN Charter tried, just once. Israel was supposed to be the Northern half, with Tel Aviv as the capitol and Jerusalem as an international city controlled by no one since most people's faith has a connection to that city.

Israel had justification to occupy it when they did, but not to keep it. I blame the UN totally for not enforcing their own charter....but then again, should I really be surprised?

Israel had justification to occupy it when they did, but not to keep it. I blame the UN totally for not enforcing their own charter....but then again, should I really be surprised?

Posted by kanrei at 2009-09-24 05:56 PM | Reply

Ever think about the stranglehold Israel has over the United States??? I have absolutely NOTHING against Israel or Jews (Well actually just one thing I don't wannna have to go to the fricking uroogists before I marry a Jewish Woman but that's it) Seems to Me if the United States would come down upon Israel for their misdeeds it would help things out more.

Larry

"Israel had justification to occupy it when they did, but not to keep it"

I'm not sure Israel ever had any justification for being there in the first place ~ which are Ahmadinejad's views in general ~ but there they are & since 'power takes & love gives' the saga continues.

WW3 anyone?

I believe the only stranglehold Israel has is that they are our only friends there ATM.

Bani,
When you say "I'm not sure Israel ever had any justification for being there in the first place," do you mean Jerusalem or Israel in general?

Well, Kanrei ~ as u know I was there when Sharon chose to pray at the Western Wall & to start the current cycle of stealing land again & it was so peaceful as I picked up hitchhikers of all types including Israel soldiers with their weapons before Sharon's version of praying occurred...so being a pragmatic fellow usually ~ I felt everything was fine enough as it was then ~ days before GW stole the first election.

Bani,
I respect your right to that opinion on the Holocaust and I really do not want to have that fight here ever again.

I have also recent learned through doing research that the British actually had a plan to give a portion of what is Israel back to the Jews as early as 1935, but WW2 got in the way. THE UN plan is actually the British plan.

One thing about the "6 million" number. For those who know beyond a shadow of a doubt they lost most of their family to the Holocaust, it doesn't matter how many: it still rips your heart out when people say it never happened.

I have also recent learned through doing research that the British actually had a plan to give a portion of what is Israel back to the Jews as early as 1935, but WW2 got in the way. THE UN plan is actually the British plan.

#26 | Posted by kanrei

I have some original paperwork related to the Balfour documents given to our family from our Aunt Vye who was 'their' pet. In the volumious papers ~ I have lists of names of those behind the original Lord Rothschild agenda in regards to Israel's future creation as a state.

I call Aunt Vye's plane 007 type couriers to be merely couriers for the Money Masters once I copyied & read everything & passed it around to selected people ~ cosd me back in 1999 $700 to copy everything:>)

We are getting above my knowledge level here.

One thing about the "6 million" number. For those who know beyond a shadow of a doubt they lost most of their family to the Holocaust, it doesn't matter how many: it still rips your heart out when people say it never happened.

#27 | Posted by kanrei

of course...but imagine what is really at stake & then the emotions really take over in self-righteous anger justifying nothing in the end.

for what it's worth ~ I & a few others I presently know were at Auschwitz that lifetime. I was a Gypsy redhead who survived only to be brutally raped by the Russians...

Ah, life after life we go wondering what's it all about:>)

then the emotions really take over in self-righteous anger justifying nothing in the end.

That is where faith is supposed to come in for these "Jews," but I seriously doubt many are just as the ones strapping on bombs are not Muslims.

Forgive, but never Forget was what I thought we (Jews) were supposed to do in regards to the Holocaust. Instead, they got a taste of power and liked it, replaced their G-d with it, and have been worshiping it ever since.

I have never defended a Zionist in my life. I condemn them the way I hope Muslims condemn terrorists because that is all they are.

The Jew defends Israel; the Zionist destroys Palestine.

I must be off Bani. Great talking with you. Stayed 2 hours longer than I wanted to. Till the next time.

Shalom

You know Bani I would like to know why those Anti Aircraft Missels at the pentagon didn't take out that supposed aircraft that crashed into it. Supposedly aircraft that are allowed to fly in the area of the Pentagon are supposed to have a radio becon that declares it to be friendly and safe. Know what I mean??

Larry

My mother shook Nixon's hand as he ran for President his first term & thought him so handsome...I don't remember if I ever forgave her for that?

#13 | Posted by Bani

Because your Mother's crystal ball was defective?

I don't know if you peple have read the headline or not, but the 911 commission has stated that what they were told is mostly lies. That means there is the very good chance that there was TREASON IN THE WHITEHOUSE.

That means that thousands of Americans have died for lies, and you people are talking about Nixon, Iran, Israel--everything except the FUCKING LIES THAT LED US TO WAR.

It isn't the media that is the problem in America--it isn't the libs or the comns or the economy that is the problem---it is YOU and your APATHY, and willingness to accept any bullshit slopped on your plate and lick your chops and say YUM YUM.

You are all a bunch of shit eaters, and the world you hand to your children will be a world built by shit eaters. Chance are many of your children will die for the same lies and shit you ate with relish.

Chance are many of your children will die for the same lies and shit you ate with relish.

#37 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

BBob, sometimes I feel like there are only a few people who have the intellect and the balls to see things clearly. Like me, even though you are a little kooky sometimes, you friggin nailed this one. I couldn't agree more.

Government is only a collection of people. Any illegal activity that gov't engages in (which is a lot) is, in reality, being engaged in by citizens of this country. But they are made to believe that gov't is a whole separate organism that can think for itself and act on it's own, thereby making their crimes okie-dokie.

911 was an inside job and it was an act of commission with enemeies and and act of omission of the laws of the US. Everyone incvolved in it needs to be hanged.

...shit you ate with relish.

I eat shit with chutney.

You are all a bunch of shit eaters, and the world you hand to your children will be a world built by shit eaters. Chance are many of your children will die for the same lies and shit you ate with relish.

#37 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Gee, BB ~ the police came a month ago & rough me up for no reason other than to prove that they can & I really can't do anything about it (& because I don't have a video & maybe a witness or 2 ~ just nice bruises)

So chutney works for me, too, if there is nothing I can do about it but keep posting here (& in facebook) the pecurular institution we have in our Republic when it comes to situations like 911, JFK, FED Reserve, Ok Bomb & on & on...

So in memory of all the false flags operations, I repost a perennial favorite of mine on this glorious morning to be still alive for:>)

"False flag terrorism" is defined as a government attacking its own people, then blaming others in order to justify going to war against the people it blames

Because your Mother's crystal ball was defective?

#36 | Posted by wisgod

my last conversation physically with her was in regards to JFK jr being Wellstoned (before Wellstone got his ~ that is:>)

I told her of my dream that morning with him & his mom sharing a laugh after after another Kennedy got hit.

What I didn't know is RFK had an 'open' 4 year affair with Jackie until those extra shots still unaccounted for nailed him.

Which fits in with my mother's relationship with her sister & my dad...he, he

Bani

Makes you wonder how John Farmer continues to live and publish a book.

Maybe because John Farmer doesn't implicate Mossad as much as they deserve?

See Michael Moore's little ommission in his 911 expose...

Rahm Emmanuel, former Clinton adviser, former congressman from Illinois, current White House Chief of Staff, staunch supporter of Israel, and suspected by many of being "Mega", the Mossad mole in the Clinton White House, has a brother, Ari Emmanuel, who just happens to be Michael Moore's agent.

"Side note: Have you noticed that ABCNNBBCBS, so eager to trumpet "Muslim Terrorists" on 9-11, are now ignoring the revelation that the 9-11 commission itself is saying it was all a lie." M.R. of wrh

Every American should call their local news station, write their local newspaper, and write their congress reps until we get results.

Every American should call their local news station, write their local newspaper, and write their congress reps until we get results.

I'm on it!

I'm on it!

#46 | Posted by goatman

no, u r IT!

Sep-24-2009 14:26printcomments
Outfoxing the 9/11 Coverup
Gordon Duff Salem-News.com

With the 9/11 Commission rescinding their own report, 9/11 debunking machine is now our "smoking gun".
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(CINCINNATTI, Ohio) - When 9/11 Commission Chief Counsel, John Farmer, released his book, The Ground Truth, debunking his own 9/11 commission report and was supported by Chairman Thomas Kean and commission member Senator Bob Kerrey with no dissent, the cover story of 9/11 died.

This leaves us with these inescapable facts:

* We no longer have an official answer to questions about 9/11.

* Perjured testimony and falsified information given to the original commission is a criminal act and demands a Grand Jury investigation and Special Prosecutor.

* Hundreds of respected leaders of the military, law enforcement, intelligence and scientific communities question the credibility of an investigation now proven beyond a doubt a conspiracy in itself.

* The institutions of government, including all 3 branches, Executive, Judicial and Legislative have combined in an unexplainable way in their failure to respond to circumstances that legally require action.

* The press has continued a pattern of distortion of facts, suppression of news and has engaged in a systematic campaign of deception.

part 2

Years have passed and soon 10,000 Americans will have died. Taking into account the epidemic of veterans suicides, we may have already passed that figure now. The cascade of events, financial collapse, government spying, oil price fixing, massive military corruption and a dozen more issues as serious have been able to move beyond our ability of everyday citizens to influence.

In fact, the most corrupt and debased groups involved in the 9/11 coverup are being actively recruited by the press as a patriotic resistance.

The tone for the coverup is being set by Australian media mogul, Rupert Murdoch, who controls much of the press in the US and United Kingdom. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see Murdoch's role in covering up 9/11. His networks created the "9/12ers" who are continuing the coverup and Murdoch employees like Fox funnyman, Glenn Beck, are still a major part of the effort to protect those in government who lied to the commission and may have aided the conspirators.

Murdoch's media has held to "party line" on 9/11 and the Iraq/Afghanistan war since day one, suppressing facts any time they threatened an agenda of broad regional war or supported limiting government power to operate above the law.

Conspiracy theorists, largely proven correct thus far, refer to Murdoch's position as leader of the Israeli ultra-right wing Zionist movement as a rationale for his continued involvement in the cover up. No proof of Israeli involvement in the planning and execution of 9/11 has been offered except for Murdoch's relentless disinformation campaign.

part 3

Geopolitical theorists accuse Murdoch of orchestrating a plan for Israel to draw America into a wide set of conflicts in the Middle East, tying down forces for many years, while Israel extends broad economic influence into Georgia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan. The massive oil and gas reserves of the area, formerly the Jewish Kazhak empire, represent one of the greatest economic prizes in the world.

Only Iran threatens Israel's goals in this area.

Over 40 years ago, the US and Israel engaged in a false flag operation against an American warship called the USS Liberty. The plan was for Israel to attack and sink an American ship, kill the crew and the US would blame Egypt, invade and oust Soviets from the Middle East and control the worlds oil supply.

A Russian spy ship observed and filmed the attack. The Israeli pilots went public. American naval officers reported White House involvement in the plot and it failed.

We only know that 9/11 was not what we were told it was and that it is being covered up by propagandists tied to Israeli extremists. Can we make assumptions from this? I say no but we can and should ask questions.

However, anyone asking a question or advocating an investigation is subjected to vicious personal attacks not limited to attempts to influence violence. The 400% increase in threats against the current president can easily be traced to their source in the media industry.

Was the Bush administration trying to repeat the Middle Eastern takeover tried by Lyndon Johnson long ago? Exposure of their plans to invade Iraq, made long before 9/11 need to be added into the equation.

9/11 could be a massive American intelligence failure with NORAD and the DOD melting down for lack of leadership. The lies told afterward could have been the result of embarrassment at total incompetence.

Nothing points to solid proof that 9/11 was staged by the US, with or without Israel. A long string of odd coincidences and a few violations of the laws of physics don't prove a massive conspiracy, not in themselves. They only raise a need for impartial investigation.

One thing can't be explained. Why are lies, known lies, still being broadcast daily, lies orchestrated from one source, meant to suppress an honest accounting of what may have been a series of mistakes?

part 4

Why go so far to cover up mistakes if they were only mistakes? With no 9/11 Commission standing behind the report that was meant to clear the Bush administration of responsibility, why is the Murdoch propaganda machine, the Wall Street Journal, Fox, Hannity, Beck and gang so busy burying something that doesn't exist?

To read more of Gordon's work, you can visit: veteranstoday.com

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Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran and a regular contributor to Veterans Today. He specializes in political and social issues. You can see a large collection of Gordon's published articles at this link: VeteransToday.com.

He is an outspoken advocate for veterans and his powerful words have brought about change. Gordon is a lifelong PTSD sufferer from his war experiences and he is empathetic to the plight of today's veterans also suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. We greatly appreciate the opportunity to feature Gordon's timely and critical reports on Salem-News.com, a news organization staffed by a number of veterans, particularly former U.S. Marines.

Bani

Few people have that kind of attention span. Those kinds of posts kill a thread. Each point has to be brought out individually as a response to questions or statements.

Many people have told me that all rights DO NOT come from the government. The apathy shown towards proven lies to the 911 commission proves that all rights come from the government, and the people of the United States are simple sheep to be sheared.

The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.