Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Friday, September 18, 2009

Regardless of whether you like Beck or not, he's becoming an icon. Time magazine, while not writing a flattering article on Beck, did put him on their cover. Why? Well, obviously to sell magazines. The bigger story, which Time does allude to, is that the left's dismissing of Beck as a nobody is wrong. He draws a large viewership during a terrible time slot, in addition to his morning radio program. And perhaps as much as anyone, is representative of the discontent of the middle class that feels ignored and defrauded by both political parties.

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NANCY PELOSI WILL SAY GLENN WHO I NEVER HEARD OF HIM JUST LIKE ACORN...

The article also notes:

The inevitable question is, How much of this industry is sincere? Last year, shortly after the election, Beck spoke with TIME's Kate Pickert, and he didn't sound very scared back then. Of Obama's early personnel decisions, he said, "I think so far he's chosen wisely." Of his feelings about the President: "I am not an Obama fan, but I am a fan of our country ... He is my President, and we must have him succeed. If he fails, we all fail." Of the Democratic Party: "I don't know personally a single Democrat who is a dope-smoking hippie that wants to turn us into Soviet Russia." Of the civic duty to trust: "We've got to pull together, because we are facing dark, dark times. I don't trust a single weasel in Washington. I don't care what party they're from. But unless we trust each other, we're not going to make it."

How can we trust each other, though, when the integrated economy of ranters and their delighted-to-be-outraged critics are such a model of profitability? A microphone, a camera and a polarizing host are all it takes to get the money moving. Because audiences have been so widely fragmented by the new technology, ratings that would have gotten a talk-show host canceled in the late 1980s create a superstar today. (In 1987 comedian David Brenner bombed in syndication with about 2.5 million viewers at midnight which is roughly what Fox, the leading network for political talk shows, averages in prime time.)

And:

Starting after the election and continuing into spring, pollster Frank Luntz conducted a survey of some 6,400 Americans, and the first question was whether they agreed with this statement: "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore." Nearly 3 out of 4 72% said yes.

Movie buffs might appreciate this, because when Beck gets rolling on a particularly emotional riff, when the tears glisten and the shoulders shudder, Paddy Chayefsky, the great leftist playwright, looks like a prophet. He's the man who coined the phrase that, according to Luntz, is the rare thing Americans can agree on. He gave the line to Howard Beale, the mad anchorman at the center of the dark satire Network.

Chayefsky imagines cynical television executives who create a ratings sensation out of the nightly rants and ravings of Beale. The host energizes the nation with his cry, "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!" It's hard to find a film that better captures the rotten vibe of the early 1970s, when America found itself suffering through one downer after another: failing companies, tense foreign relations, high unemployment, rampant incivility, spiraling deficits, corruption in high places, a seemingly endless war. Sound familiar?

Beck often cites Beale as an inspiration and a tribune for our own times. "I think that's the way people feel," he told an interviewer. "That's the way I feel" like the fist-shaking, hair-pulling Beale. Whether channeled by a playwright on the left or a talk-show host on the right, anger and distrust can be dramatized and monetized. But do they ever really go anywhere?

The trouble with this prophecy is that we never find out what happens to the people watching Beale. Do they stay mad forever? Does their screaming ever lead to something better? Does the rage merely migrate, sending new audiences with new enemies to scream from more windows? And if the time comes when every audience is screaming, who, in the end, is left to listen?

He should be on the cover it's about time LIBERALS recognize that ALL THE MAJOR NETWORKS HAVE REFUSED TO DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS AND REPORT THE LARGEST SCANDAL IN HISTORY. My God people the speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi claims to know nothing about Acorn's support of loans for the child sex trade. Do LIBERALS even give a shit about the truth anymore, do you enjoy being LIED to by ALL the major so called news networks how sad...

"Mad Man: Is Glenn Beck Bad for America?"

That's a misprint. The real cover is on the link page, "Autism in America".

Snake oil salesmen will always have a special place in the hearts of gullible Americans. I'm not saying what Beck says is wrong,. but he constantly manipulates history to paint himself something other than a neoconservative in libertarian disguise. He is a neocon, and the neocons don't give a crap about America-- they were the ones who ushered in the prog movement 100 years ago anyway.

#2 Doc

Early on, some were willing to give Obama our support, Beck included. Since then, Obama has proven that he is NOT competent to hold the office of POTUS.

Nice catch, Corky.

Do you guys have to lie about everything?

Beck's mug isn't on Time's cover. His name isn't even on the cover. This is what's on the cover of Time: www.time.com

"We had a university, I think it's University of -- I don't remember which university it is -- um, look at the pictures. And you know, they can do body space and calculate, 1.7 million, that crowd was estimated."
~Glennn Beck

Beck's mug isn't on Time's cover.

I realize you Drudge lefties are the authority on everything, but the managing editor of Time was on Scarborough this morning WITH THE MAG IN HIS HAND and Beck's picture and NAME is on the cover.. they just haven't put it online yet..

Nice catch.. right

representative of the discontent of the middle class that feels ignored and defrauded by both political parties.

Oh Please. I would be surprised if you could find one single listener that makes that claim.

That's like saying Konan Obrien represents insomniacs.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-09-17 08:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-09-17 08:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

Drunk_Dwarf is a master of the uncreative cut-and-paste.

You're just a sad, lonely, bitter old man.

Go over to that old lady's room at the retirement castle. If you're lucky she's already taken out her dentures. If you are extra lucky, she's asleep and you can steal money for booze

Maybe he'll be Time Magazines "Man of the Year"

"Psycho of the Year". more like.

The man is a babbling paranoid idiot and an emotional time bomb. No wonder his sponsors left him.

Rush must be sooooo jealous right now.

"No wonder his sponsors left him."

But his audience has grown. It's a joke, the sponsors didn't leave Fox now, did they?

Go over to that old lady's room at the retirement castle.
#11 | Posted by vernon

No, thanks, Vermin. Just not interested. But you'll find someone who's lonely for a date, don't you worry, old boy.

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Godwin wins!

-But his audience has grown.

The emotionally and intellectually challenged need one of their own to cling to.

It's understandable that fringe groups get bigger when their GOP programming is challenged.

But his audience has grown. It's a joke, the

sponsors didn't leave Fox now, did they?

#15 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2009-09-17 11:01 AM

FOX NEWS CONTINUES TO GROW by being the ONLY news outlet actually reporting the news, other news anchors such as CHUCK GIBSON claim to be ignorant of ACORN's SUPPORT of the CHILD SEX TRADE...

Are LIBERALS really this STUPID or do they condone ACORNS SUPPORT of CHILD SEX BROTHELS...

"It's understandable that fringe groups get bigger when their GOP programming is challenged."

LOL...I find it amusing when a minority group moonbat such as yourself looks upon the larger majority as a "fringe group." YOU, Redneckville, Buffaloed_Boob and your little friends are a barrel of laughs.

-the larger majority

Beck's teabaggers are the larger majority??
Rush's Racists are the larger majority?

We had an election in Nov that determined the majority consensus in this country, and it ain't about Glen Beck, whom even most traditional conservatives are embarrassed by.

19 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2009-09-17 11:10 AM | Reply | Flag: Thinks low level workers punked by Rethug activists make official Acorn policy.

"The man is a babbling paranoid idiot and an emotional time bomb. No wonder his sponsors left him."

I disagree, I think he is a greedy opportunist who has found a niche audience that is extremely profitable for him. Same with Hannity, same with Limbaugh.

"The man is a babbling paranoid idiot and an emotional time bomb."

Leave Eddie (or Tad) out of this. Neither one of them are even here to defend themselves.

I disagree, I think he is a greedy opportunist who has found a niche audience that is extremely profitable for him. Same with Hannity, same with Limbaugh.

Maybe you can also explain to us why gay people are gay.

Hey, Chair...

25-24

I disagree, I think he is a greedy opportunist who has found a niche audience that is extremely profitable for him. Same with Hannity, same with Limbaugh.

#22 | Posted by danni at 2009-09-17 11:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

You forgot to add, Olbermann, Jon Stewart, Rachel Maddow, Maureen Dowd and the biggest one of all, Michael Moore.

Now your list is complete. Oops forgot ALGORE. He is the master - ranks up there with L. Ron for creating a religion and making a profit from it.

Hey, Chair...

25-24

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2009-09-17 11:40 AM | Reply |

I paid those kids to spray paint McKelvin's lawn...

#16 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-09-17 11:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

IBID

Still stalking and trolling, you silly old ponce?

Why is this noteworthy or an issue? Time, like every other magazine, creates covers which it calculates will help sell the mag. Anybody who is newsworthy is very likely to wind up on some cover somewhere.

Putting someone on the cover establishes no more worth than Time's usual choice for man/person "of the year" - who is merely a person they feel has had the most impact, be it for good or bad and notwithstanding which.

He's our Messiah.

I paid those kids to spray paint McKelvin's lawn...

#27 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Bwahahaha!! I knew that was you when I heard the story.

Dallas barely won by that same score two years ago after the Bills scared the shit out of them.... which was pretty messy for the groundskeepers, all things considered.

He's not a nobody.

He is an uneducated drug addict though.

Why the right flocks to this type of person is the fucking question.

He and Rush are the epitome of the right-leaning pant pissers.

No education.

No morale values.

Drug and alcohol addiciton.

Overweight.

I guess I CAN understand why the righties flock to them. Birds of a fucking feather.

Hey, it's your team buddy. You deal with these facts.

Leave Eddie (or Tad) out of this. Neither one of them are even here to defend themselves.

#23 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Still wouldn't make a damn bit of difference.

#33 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-09-17 01:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

95% of African Americans voted democrat last election. 19% -
Percentage of single-race blacks 25 and older who had a bachelor's degree or higher in 2007.

www.infoplease.com

You were talking about uneducated conservatives I believe? Idiot.

95% of African Americans voted democrat last election. 19% -
Percentage of single-race blacks 25 and older who had a bachelor's degree or higher in 2007.

www.infoplease.com

You were talking about uneducated conservatives I believe? Idiot.

#35 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

I get it. You are a racist. Skin color matters to you. I get that. You have made that very clear. You don't like black people. I get it.

Now back to Beck and Rush being uneducated drug addicts that conservatives admire so much.

Boy if Beck was black you would be all over his ass for being uneducated with a history of drug and alcohol abuse huh?

Amazing that you would display your dislike of peoples skin color in a public forum. You are one bold racist man.

Didn't Obama say in his book that he did Cocaine. Are we going to call him a drug addict now too?

In that context, The Washington Post raises the pre-emptive question of the senator's direct confession (in his intimate memoir, "Dreams of My Father") that he used cocaine and marijuana in high school and college.

he used cocaine and marijuana in high school and college.

He's your buddy, right?

he used cocaine and marijuana in high school and college.

The Messiah

Is Glenn Beck bad for America? No, as long as he doesn't shed.

Is Glenn Beck bad for America?

Let's just say that he's dumbing down a segment of the population who really don't need any help in that regard.

Be Well.

Of course he is bad for America. He appeals the stupidest most easily manipulated segments of our society. He is divisive, deceitful and foments fear. Worst of all, the whole point of the shtick is for him and FOX to make money. Guy is a POS in in my opinion.

Who cares!

#29 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-09-17 12:27 PM | Reply | Flag: THINKS GETTING THE LAST WORD MEANS HE WON

I like Glenn Beck.

I hear he raped and murdered some girl in the 90's. If you can't prove he didn't, he MUST have done it.


I like Glenn Beck.

#46 | Posted by wurster

Of course you do.

Obama is raping us NOW! and he will end up killing a lot of us too.

Next week: Is crystal meth bad for America?


Obama is raping us NOW! and he will end up killing a lot of us too.

#49 | Posted by Constuct

You mean by giving you affordable health care? I like that kind of rape.

Retards and loony-tunes often need affirmation and Glen Blecccch gives the simple minded exactly what they need on daily basis.

Early on, some were willing to give Obama our support, Beck included. Since then, Obama has proven that he is NOT competent to hold the office of POTUS.

#7 | Posted by Beachbuzz at 2009-09-17 10:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

You mean like freezing for 7 whole minutes after being told 'The Nation Is Under Attack'?

Let's just say that he's dumbing down a segment of the population who really don't need any help in that regard.

Be Well.

#42 | Posted by dethspud at

Come on Spudly...

I really use to enjoy yer Bush=Bad routine back in the day.

Now all I here is "Beck is Bad", "Obama is God", "you all are a bunch of racists."

Have you EVER listened to Glenn? Or do you ONLY get your opinions from Mathews, Olberman, Huffington, Kos, etc...?

How many Canadians come to America each year for major surgery? Yer grandmother could be next, yeah?

If Obamacare goes through that shit will end pronto my friend.

Wake the hell up my little Molsen chum. So goes America, and so goes the Great White North.

PS

Don't Smell!

You know talk all of the shit you want about Glenn Beck but if he was a talking head for MSNBC exposing corruption in the RNC and forcing their people to resign you would be praising him. I know MSNBC wishes they had the ratings that followed too.

So far in the past month and a half he has.

Exposed Van Jones and later he resigned.
Sidlined Art boy after an hour worth of media exposure.
ACORN lost the Census and any and all funding from the gov after 2 weeks.

Imagine that? A talking head actually caused something to pass while the demascraps can only decide on giving Joe Wilson a little slap on his poor little hand...

What has the liberal racebating media done besides shove their faces in the sand after their race card meleys?

As an independent I should be laughing my ass off if it wasn't for the difficult times our country has faced.

Is Glenn Beck bad for america? Not so much

Is Glenn Beck bad for the politicians and organizations that fail to toe the line for this country? Likely so

brownshirts were popular.

I don't listen/watch Beck because of the shill aspect, but it seems from the outside looking in that he does serve some purposes. Van Jones, for example, admits himself that he "was" in fact a communist. I don't care if he disavowed his earlier beliefs or not. Communist, past, present, or future? Hit the road Jack. He has also been quoted making racial, incendiary comments. I don't care that he signed a 9/11 truth petition, but he laughably claims that he has never believed in the cause that he signed the petition for. He didn't resign, he was told to pack his bags, and the Obama Admin cut the bait.

As for Van's parting comments, how can it be a "smear campaign" if the allegations are true? That to me was the biggest farce on the Van Jones thing. I personally am glad Van Jones is gone, and credit Beck largely for this. But rather than seeing it as weakening Obama Admin, couldn't the case be made he is helping root out some of the undesirables, effectively helping to clean-up the Obama Admin?

The real question I want answered though is: how did Van Jones get his position? Was it because he wasn't properly vetted, or did the Obama Admin know about the communist past and think that was OK? If it's the former, then poor recruitment process, which is not good. If it's the latter, much worse, and we are all in deep trouble. Of course, this is something you will never learn from Beck or any other pundit, as it would require more than a slam-bang witch hunt but some actual journalism.

He is bad for idots and libtards, if you dont listen to him you need not comment, your making assumptions and you should just stfu cause you dont know what your talking about.

I love guys like Beck who say they were willing to give the president a chance then condemn him, 5 minutes after he is inaugurated because he hasn't cleaned up the mess fast enough. BTW it is the same mess that Beck and his ilk made in the first place. Like all despots, Beck has no answers but posses a talent for leading the chorus of whiners.
He does perform one valuable service, though. He is a constant source of embarrasment to real conservatives who looked the other way when the neocons began their project to destroy America.
But you can't fool all the people all the time. Beck's days are numbered.

seriously is Glen beck bad for america, hmm he must be getting too much traction. how about pelosi, she is such a laugh factory, calling the townhallers nazis but then decrying hate speech,

Speaker Nancy Pelosi: "I have concerns about some of the language that is being used because I saw I saw this myself in the late '70s in San Francisco," Pelosi said, choking up and with tears forming in her eyes. "This kind of rhetoric is just, is really frightening and it created a climate in which we, violence took place and I wish that we would all, again, curb our enthusiasm in some of the statements that are made."

this is so laughable, she is a danger, but to whom is the greater danger, america or her party?

He is bad for idots and libtards, if you dont listen to him you need not comment, your making assumptions and you should just stfu cause you dont know what your talking about.

That was breathtaking.

Thank you very much, Noobama, you have started my weekend on a light note.

Beck had Barry figured out a couple of years ago, not that figuring Barry and his buddies at Acorn out requires a PhD in string theory.

Where are Barry's college transcripts anyway?

"calling the townhallers nazis"

Actually, she talked about people carrying swastikas to town meetings, which they did.

Glenn Beck is just one more in a long list of money grubbing hype assholes who spew lies, hate, rascism, and anything else they can think of to appeal to the brainless redneck KLU KLUX KLAN mentality faction in this country.

And Conservative Republican ass wipes in this country just can't get enough of them.

Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham. Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney

The darling poster children of the Republican Party !

What great fucking Americans !!!

#65 | Posted by USATrueandBlue7

Therefore most appropriate that Keith Olbermann bestowed a nickname on this clown, drawing upon a memorable broadcasting fraud Budd Schulberg created when he werote "A Face inthe Crowd" -- Lonesome Rhodes.

GEE... I forgot... Anne Coultier, Michelle Bachman, Sarah Palin, and now Joe Wilson.

Sorry Guys !!!

Actually, she talked about people carrying swastikas to town meetings, which they did.

The signs Speaker Pelosi referred to were signs with the the swastikas marked out.. in other a no-Nazis sign..

The tea party protesters were not a pro nazi group.. that's the falsehood that idiots like Sarvis keep pushing.. what they were protesting is what they felt were Nazi like actions either proposed or committed by congress and the administration.

Average Americans understand that well.. which is why many of them listen to person like Beck.. back to the thread.. the point is.. many middle-class Americans feel abandoned by both parties.. and telling them that they're Nazi's.. isn't helpful.

i am mostly independent. i believe if you aren't harming someone else, you should be left alone. i am more conservative than i am liberal and i cant stand glenn beck. crying on tv with the american flag waving behind him trying to get people going emotionally. we need more logically thinking people, not a country worked into an emotional frenzy.

i can't stand glenn beck. he only weakens the side of conservatives.

#69 | Posted by sendeth at 2009-09-18 08:23 AM

You may not be able to stand Glenn Beck...but Rupert Murdock and FOX NEWS love him because he espouses the Elitist (2) class system of rich and poor in this country and he who has money has everything while everyone else can go screw themselves.

Beck is a very sick, sad man. Fortunately for him and his ilk we have freedom of speech in this country. Unfortunately for the rest of us, he is free to make his racist and paranoid claims on national television and radio. The only people who actually believe his rants are the ones we really need to worry about.

Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham. Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney

Good point true blue. I am certainly a fan of free speech and a free press, but we are indeed judged by the company we keep. This list is much bigger and the consequences of so many people listening to these kind of people has led this nation into a divided country with a massive debt and a massive imbalance in the distribution of wealth that is now eating the country from the inside out. The vitriol and hate spewing from the right and the left is being fanned by people like Glenn Beck who is merely a pawn of a corporate backed money grubbing media with a big following of lemmings. Glenn's only real talent is entertainment. Philosophy and origional thought is a foreign enemy to these actors. Before joining Fox, Beck was just another alcoholic with a clever punchline.

America is in decline because of these people who support policies that are counter to the country's best interests. Let me state a good example that no one can dispute that is a bad thing for everyone but the businesses who benefit.

We spend 20 billion dollars a year subsidizing the fishing fleets that are fishing the oceans to extinction. This government sponsored lack of conservation or, should we say counter-conservative efforts, is a direct result of right wing ignorance from people like Beck and his buddies who hate welfare for the poor but love welfare for the rich. These corporate stooges are making the situation worse and have been for decades. The oceans are dying from over fishing and acidification from the rise in carbon dioxide. The worst thing that could have happened to America and the planet, considering the ecological plight the world we all live in, is people like him spewing junk science for the sake of profit only.

If Glenn Beck and the people he mirrors can't help, they should at least stay out of the way, but unfortunately I believe it's far too late already.

So, in the final analysis I believe Beck and ignoramuses like him are the worst possible thing that could have happened to a world on fire.

My main reason for liking Glenn Beck is one of the same reasons I like Cheney....

There are a number of ways to take the measure of a man. One of them is to look at who hates him.

Beck is a tool. I change the channel when that crybaby comes on tv or radio. The only con I can listen to is O'Reilly. I could stomach Hannity when Colmes was on the show because he couldn't lie too much now he is unregulated. The worst 2 on the radio are Beck and Rush those 2 MF's are complete imbeciles. I wouldn't care if they were involved in a plane crash.

One of the few people that is clearly dumber than Shrub. This recovering alchoholic says he found salvation in the Mormon Church. He touches hot buttons with such a cursary style as to leave his audience as ill informed as they began.

Beck is exploiting the hypocrisy of the left and laughing all the way to the bank --- and the lefties are looking for every little corner to get back at him but not succeeding so far.

Glenn Beck is terrible for this country, like every other demagogue who rose up pandering to our worst prejudices and biggest paranoias.

I think he's also bad for the Republicans, because makes them more extreme. I'm sure it feels good to have him out there raging against Democrats, but Republicans aren't a big enough party to win by just getting their base out. Not by a longshot. If they can't find Hispanic voters and win over more blue staters, they're looking at a long time in the wilderness.

I loved the term the article uses which sums up Glenn Beck, overall:

"Fears of a Clown"...Poetic...

Nothing more need be said.

Glenn Beck is terrible for this country,

He got Van Jones fired and helped get ACORN de-funded. I'd say that is good for the country. BTW - Beck is not a republican.

Rcade forgets who and where he is! "Glenn Beck is terrible for this country, like every other demagogue who rose up pandering to our worst prejudices and biggest paranoias."

This site is dedicated to being Red Meat for the leftwing bigots called Yellow-Dog-Democrats and you pander to their worst prejudices and biggest paranoias!!!

You are one of the biggest pimps for hate and dehumanization of Republicans and the rightwing on the internet ... and you whine about your peers, in the opposite camp ... just as some unconscious, puling hypocrite would!

What a disgusting fool you make of yourself, stupid ...

#80 | Posted by tadowe at 2009-09-18 11:16 AM | Reply | Flag: As he drools maniacally on the keyboard

You can talk about Glenn Beck all you want. But Beck and Rush and a few others are the best things the Dems have. As long as they are better known than the candidates, we continue to use them as poster children for what the GOP stands for in elections. Their extremism scares the middle who vote for us. Long live Beck, Hanity, Rush, Malkin, etc etc etc.

tadowe loves it when the GOP pisses on his leg because then he knows its raining.

Sorry dude. An ass is an ass, a nazi is a nazi, and Beck is an idiot. Sorry calling it like it is bothers you so much. Its not about ideology, but about simply stating the truth. Get over it.

Now be a good little NOPer and go post something about ACORN.

You are both a bit dim ... and since I was talking about Rcade and not defending Beck ...

Rogers just happens to be the very pimp for prejudice that he accuses Beck of being.

You dimwits come on and provide some of the prejudice, bigotry and partisan hatred as 'good customers' of this site which is dedicated to the very same activity that Beck performs!

You are puppets for Rogers, as he spreads the 'Red Meat' for you curs and bitches of yellow-dogism to snarl over like the reflexive idiots of hatred, you just happen to be, as you play at being hypocrites-on-strings.


he used cocaine and marijuana in high school and college.

He's your buddy, right?

#39 | Posted by mysterytoy

Since you have no idea the difference in casual use and addiciton to the point of destroying your family then I'll just assume that you are an ignorant conservative.

I look down on uneducated, family wrecking drug abusers.

And that is exactly what the Rights' heroes are.

Can't deny those facts.

Tadowe settle down before your pacemaker shorts out. Don't get so worked up. Your nurse will be around shortly to give you your Thorazine.

I look down on uneducated, family wrecking drug abusers.

And that is exactly what the Rights' heroes are.

Can't deny those facts.

#86 | Posted by Manypaths
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You mean Barry didn't do cocaine and marijuana? Yeah I know you'll probably say he doesn't do that anymore right. Well the same can be said about Beck and Rush. What was your point again? There is absolutely no proof that either Beck or Rush are still hooked on whatever it was they were hooked on.

Lonnie

St. Glenn, like Limpweinie, might be better classified as polititainment. Or is that disinfotainment? I find all that jiggling blubber flapping about under his chin somewhat distracting when he pontificates. Which leads me to ponder...why do all the usual suspect uber repubs seem to look like pastry chiefs with gout? I mean, these rabble rousers make no pretense of masking their real role as obscenely overpaid Sham Wow! salesmen for the status quo crowd, no matter how many flags they wrap themselves in. I don't know why, but I seem to be immune to Mr. Beck's clumsy, maudlin monologues.

I haven't bothered to check but IIRC, Beck's average listening audience is around 2.5 million per broadcast. And probably the same 2.5 mil every broadcast. This doesn't make him a significant player outside of his particular world. Very obviously, most Americans don't bother with him.

If he starts reaching 25 or 50 million, then he will become a factor. Till then, shrug.

Why are opposing views bad for America?

Seems like I remember a Senator from New York once saying:

"WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEBATE AND DISAGREE WITH ANY ADMINISTRATION!"

Anyone who disagrees that anyone, from scholar to jackass, doesn't have a right to debate and disagree really doesn't get what America's system is about.

Or most likely, are so wrapped up in their belief that they are "right" that they cannot tolerate opposing views. Because, after all, in their own mind, they are geniuses. (Unlike myself, who has the test scores to prove that I am genius!)

They probably wear T-shirts with "Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us that do."

And that annoys those of us that know you can't know everything you need to know when you need to know it, except for those times when knowing matters not what you know, but who you know.

you pander to their worst prejudices and biggest paranoias!!!

actually no Rcade is not here to pander to you. You are just a funny sideshow that, like Beck, gives the rest of us a sampling of what we DO have to worry about in this country today.

Why are opposing views bad for America?


I can answer that for you Mister Genius. What Beck is spewing is not an opposing view, it is entertainment for the mentally feeble. It does nothing to benefit those who sheepishly watch with their jaws slack and their fists raised in defiance. What is does is distort the truth on matters that effect our very lives. If Beck and Rush could at least present opposing views that had a modicum of truth that would be an opposing view. When Rush claimed every day for 8 years of Bushes term that the economy was doing just fine and the country was never better off, everyone got screwed in the end.

Now Beck is taking it a step further and attacking the president daily which is never going to help the country, except maybe to galvanize the left into never voting republican again.

Ignorant rants like Beck and Fox is helping nobody. People need to be told the real truth and not some trumped up corporate bullshit to destroy a democratically elected president and congress and convince the masses that war profiteering and uncontrolled exploitation of the planet's resources is good for the economy.

Glenn Beck is inconsequential except to extremest who need to find a voice for their resentments. That is what Right wing media is all about. And yes the same can be said about Progressive media.

While everyone here is debating Beck the Supreme Court will soon decide if Corporations will have more rights than the citizens of the US over how elections are financed while I do not see one story here about that issue.

We are being distracted while a corporate coup is in the making.

Shame on all of us.

The Beck's of the world come and go with time.

Our freedoms should be discussed fought for...

The nation will survive Glenn Beck as it survived Father Coughlin 70 years earlier.

The trouble is that there are simply too many Becks - Coulter, Malkin, Rush, Hannity, O'Lielly, Cal Thomas and Thomas Sowells, etc. They may just listen to each other, but some dittoheads may lack any superegos at all and may shoot someone.

Obama "raping" the country with his feeble health care proposals? Someone needs a new definition of rape. This ain't it. herm

This site is dedicated to being Red Meat for the leftwing bigots called Yellow-Dog-Democrats and you pander to their worst prejudices and biggest paranoias!

If this site was just pandering to liberals and Democrats, it wouldn't have the most diverse ideological audience of any liberal blog on the planet.

You bitch constantly about the Retort, and yet you're still here.

Personally, I don't patronize Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh. If I think something is terrible and/or bad for the country, the last thing in the world I'd give it is my time.

Father Coughlin

Joe McCarthy, the John Birch Society, Clinton-haters, Rush, Beck et al.... all malevolent reactions to American social and political progress.

Don't nobody go worryin' 'bout no Glenn Beck. He's a tool fairy. A shill pawn in the burgeoning right-wing indignance industry. He's dim-witticisms printed on t-shirts and coffee cups.

He has no interest in you, me, liberals, conservatives, his country or the people dying for it, not anything or anyone but his dick and his ratings. He drama-queens every word written for him -- all of which is meant to turn one half the country against the other.

Yet the left doesn't even know who he is.

Fuck Glenn Beck.

"Time: Is Glenn Beck Bad for America?"

Glenn Beck isn't bad for America. The people who listen to him without thinking critically about the stuff he says are bad for America.

Geezus,

You "they are dangerous" are tools. Either you will allow open discourse, no matter how "abhorrent" you find it or you will not.

And if you will not, then you need to STFU, since I'll control what you are allowed to say from now on.

Oh wait, you've got that right to be wrong and to be an ass...so does everyone else. No matter how "dangerous" YOU consider them.

Beck, Limbaugh, et al. Why are they on? They must resonate with enough people. Franken, Williams (Montel), Bender et al obviously do/did not.

Frankly, I'm glad that BOTH sides are out there, spewing their spew. That's what that whole First Amendment thing is about.

You don't get to decide what I get to listen to or to think about any more than I should be able to determine the same for you.

Glenn Beck isn't bad for America. The people who listen to him without thinking critically about the stuff he says are bad for America.

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Same thing with the big fat idiot. He's an entertainer. His listeners are imbeciles.

The concept where unchallenged TV or radio personalities can spew hate to gullible listeners is bad for America.

Beck and others need to appear with others of opposing opinions instead of providing monologues of hate. The shows should provide contrasting views so that listeners or watchers can learn and not simply be influenced.

"That's what that whole First Amendment thing is about.
You don't get to decide what I get to listen to or to think about any more than I should be able to determine the same for you." -DAPROF

So fucking true, someone should print t-shirts saying the above.

The good ship democrat is sailing toward a cliff. And they have no idea.
And republicans are not floating far behind.

We need a new group of people to run this Country, you know like people that actually care/or aren't retarded. A third party.

I am not with the democratic party.
I am not with the republican party.
I am with the Patriot Party.

We need to throw both parties outta Washington, they both are corrupt.


You "they are dangerous" are tools. Either you will allow open discourse, no matter how "abhorrent" you find it or you will not.

And if you will not, then you need to STFU, since I'll control what you are allowed to say from now on.

Oh wait, you've got that right to be wrong and to be an ass...so does everyone else. No matter how "dangerous" YOU consider them.

Beck, Limbaugh, et al. Why are they on? They must resonate with enough people. Franken, Williams (Montel), Bender et al obviously do/did not.

Frankly, I'm glad that BOTH sides are out there, spewing their spew. That's what that whole First Amendment thing is about.

You don't get to decide what I get to listen to or to think about any more than I should be able to determine the same for you.

#100 | Posted by daprof

Listen moron, nobody is trying to shut you up. Nobody is trying to tell you what to listen to. Nobody is telling you to "love it or leave it" like we had to put up with for 8 years. Yes, you have the right to be as stupid as you want to, to say what you want to, to think what you want to. However, if we have to suffer your stupidity, we have the right to call you on it.

Glen Beck is a moron. Having 2.5 million viewers doesn't mean he's doing something right, it means there's 2.5 million other morons out there who think like he does.

sorry forgot to add,

ROBSON you are a moron.
The era of PC(polite correctness bullshit) is over, get used to it.

"Listen moron, nobody is trying to shut you up. Nobody is trying to tell you what to listen to. Nobody is telling you to "love it or leave it" like we had to put up with for 8 years. Yes, you have the right to be as stupid as you want to, to say what you want to, to think what you want to. However, if we have to suffer your stupidity, we have the right to call you on it.

Glen Beck is a moron. Having 2.5 million viewers doesn't mean he's doing something right, it means there's 2.5 million other morons out there who think like he does." -DDENTON

You sound as blind as the morons defending bush during all his fuck ups. The dems are just as bad as the repubs.

Don't feel to bad but you are wrong. I used to think just like you. Just because bush sucked for 8 years does not mean that does not mean obama gets to suck for 4 or 8 years.
The right sounded loony during the elections, but the dems are proving it all true.

Love my Country, hate my government.


You sound as blind as the morons defending bush during all his fuck ups. The dems are just as bad as the repubs.

Blind? How? I watched for 5 minutes of my life that I'll never get back as Glen Beck rambled on about how the artwork in Rockefeller Center was evidence of communist and socialist sympathies. Glen Beck IS A MORON. If you go looking for wrongdoing in corporate art, you have nothing better to offer.


Don't feel to bad but you are wrong. I used to think just like you. Just because bush sucked for 8 years does not mean that does not mean obama gets to suck for 4 or 8 years.
The right sounded loony during the elections, but the dems are proving it all true.

Love my Country, hate my government.

#106 | Posted by Profit

Why am I wrong? You're right. Bush REALLY sucked. Obama's had less than a year to un-fuck what Bush wrought, and Beck and his fucking zombies are trying to obstruct, demonize, and illegitimize him at every turn. Yet I'm wrong. Righties are foaming at the mouth so much they can't even keep their message straight. The teabaggers don't see the irony in complaining about poorly funded mass transit after they PROTESTED GOVERNMENT SPENDING! Yet I'm wrong? Righties constants vote against their own pocket books, their own interests, and I'm wrong?

Get a fucking clue "Profit".

i>Beck, Limbaugh, et al. Why are they on? They must resonate with enough people. Franken, Williams (Montel), Bender et al obviously do/did not.


Is that how Frankin got elected to congress?

I'm sure SNL has a whole lot more fans then Glenn baby.

Mmmm what does Obama and Carter have in common?

They still don't know what is going around them...


Listen moron, nobody is trying to shut you up. Nobody is trying to tell you what to listen to. Nobody is telling you to "love it or leave it" like we had to put up with for 8 years. Yes, you have the right to be as stupid as you want to, to say what you want to, to think what you want to. However, if we have to suffer your stupidity, we have the right to call you on it.

Glen Beck is a moron. Having 2.5 million viewers doesn't mean he's doing something right, it means there's 2.5 million other morons out there who think like he does.

#104 | Posted by ddenton at 2009-09-19 12:30 AM | Reply | Flag

I see, once again with the ad-hominem. Always the retreat of those that have nothing of value to contribute to a conversation.

So, hmm...let me try it YOUR way:

Listen douchebag, you can't find an argument sufficient to fill a thimble. You DO want to shut down discussion, since all you can do is reach in your diaper and throw poop around. Go listen to your Airhead America pacifier and leave the discussion to the adults.
If someone disagrees with you, you treat it as a threat to your manhood. Yep, you become a feckless and dickless and start calling names and attempt to distract from the real debate.
It is obvious that like any other baby having a tantrum, you aren't engaging in discussion of ideals, but personalities.

(Oh wait, I made points in there...I didn't just insult)

Let me try again: You are an asshole for believing that what you know is the unadulterated truth. Supposition instead of reason, logic and deduction. I bet you make your Mother proud.

Crud, again with the points. One last try:

You are wrong because I'm right. Nanny nanny boo boo, meathead.

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Nothing in my post says that Beck or Limbaugh or Franken or even Randy Rhodes right.

BUT my posts defend their right to say what they want to say.

THEN you can counter what they state, but to claim "dangerous" or "moron" is an indication of natural obliviousness to a discussion.

You want to counter what they say...certainly. But as soon as you start acting like a middle school graduate reduce your arguments to name calling, you have lost the debate.
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Let us know when you are really ready to debate the issues and the thoughts of others, in the "marketplace of ideas."

All the right wing talk radio idiots are bad for America. They usually have their 'facts' wrong, and incite the worst in the country among the idiots who listen to them.

Outspoken people who challenge people to think are never bad for the country. He maybe right or he maybe wrong but he still causes people to talk which is a good thing. Good job Beck.

Regardless of your opinion of Beck, use your brain and look at the facts.

When Beck's factual and accurate statements are presented don't be blinded by your personal feelings. What the messenger has been or done isn't the issue. You are a thinking adult, right?

If Beck told you a truck was heading toward you and showed you the picture of the truck bearing down on you - Would you move aside or be run over because you don't like the messenger.

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