Hits the nail on the head.

There is so much fraud waste abuse and inefficiency--why does another program need to be done--why not fix what we already have?

Palin Palin Palin bwhahahaha God I just adore You Murphy I really do. But this is nonsense.

Larry

I'd rather have my health care controlled by me--not the gov't.

I'd rather have the Government to control My Health Care insurance than be DENIED for the umpteenth time by a Private Insurer. As it stands now I could get life insurance easier and then if something tragic happens to Me beings I am uninsurable to go buy a saturday night special and end it all. That is the reality of the situation at least for Me Murphy.

Larry

should guide decisions regarding that "huge driver of cost . . . the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives . . . ."

Great selective quote. So butchered it barely makes sense.

I'd rather have my health care controlled by me--not the gov't.

What's laughable is you thinking you controlled it to begin with.

The ultimate decision lies with your insurance provider.

#5 | Posted by LarryMohr

Larry--

This is one of the few points that all sides--everyone agrees about. Everyone should be able to get coverage--and no one should be denied for pre existing conditions. (that's two points)

This can be done without a gov't health care destruction plan.

There is no way to pay for it.

And if you dont get insurance the gov't will fine you.

The gov't can't force US to get health insurance--it's unconstitutional.

The ultimate decision lies with your insurance provider.

#7 | Posted by jpw

Yeah--and I can sue or go to another plan or carrier.

Can't do that with the gov't.

Yeah--and I can sue or go to another plan or carrier.

Sure. Simple as that.

What other carrier will pick someone up who left the other because they DIDN'T get treatment (and now has a pre-existing condition)? You think you'd be able to get the treatment in the interim without going completely broke? With what money would you then sue?

Yeah I see your point, suing or switching would be easy as hell.

The gov't can't force US to get health insurance--it's unconstitutional.

Posted by MURPHY at 2009-09-10 12:08 AM | Reply

Why pray tell do they FORCE People to get federally mandated FLOOD INSURANCE then?? I don't see how thats any different than the Government forcing us to get health insurance.

Larry

I'd rather have the Government to control My Health Care insurance than be DENIED for the umpteenth time by a Private Insurer.

#5 | Posted by LarryMohr

Try growing a beard Larry maybe the insurers you've already tried don't like a guy who looks like an out of shape Jack Black

Try growing a beard Larry maybe the insurers you've already tried don't like a guy who looks like an out of shape Jack Black

Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch at 2009-09-10 12:45 AM | Reply

You know I tried I really did try and grow a beard that MoFo itched like a bitch so damned bad I naired My face just to get rid of it. If You are a man with a beard You are a better man than I'll ever be Guaranteed.

Larry

Palin: Obama and the Bureaucratization of Health Care

An article by a dimwit posted by a health insurance shill. What form do I fill to get my wasted minute back?

If You are a man with a beard You are a better man than I'll ever be Guaranteed

Thanks Larry

Thanks Larry

Posted by bruceaz at 2009-09-10 01:07 AM | Reply

I shit You no pounds if You have a beard and can stand it You are a way better man than I could ever dream of being. Kuddos to You Sir.

Larry

How do you discuss world travel with a flat-earther?

Ummmmmmmm the earth is not flat??? I look out My window and all I see is flat lands. How could that be with a round earth??

Larry

Ummmmmmmm the earth is not flat??? I look out My window and all I see is flat lands. How could that be with a round earth??

Larry

#18 | Posted by LarryMohr

Larry, Are you trying to describe the Public Option?

The Public Option "Just Makes Sense", doesn't it?

Ummmmmmm No Eddie I made a smart assed comment in response to Like's

How do you discuss world travel with a flat-earther?
#17 | Posted by like at 2009-09-10 01:46 AM | Reply |

that is all. It had absolutely NOTHING to do with Health Care or Health Care insurance.

Larry

Ummmmmmmm the earth is not flat??? I look out My window and all I see is flat lands. How could that be with a round earth??

#18 | Posted by LarryMohr

That's probably the biggest turnoff for me about the Midwest no frigging mountains. But strangely enough when you go out onto the Black Rock Desert playa which is about 25 to 40 miles in length (depending on your definition of playa) you can actually see the curvature of the earth.

Gimme I would be willing to wager money on the fact that we having no mountains and hills(Except for eastern part of kansas) for the growing number of obese here in My state. If we had mountains to walk up and down we could excersize those mussle areas those in mountanous reigons do. I mean come on I am a fat bastard and can promise You if we had rough terrain to travel by foot we wouldn't be in such a sad shape as we are today.

Larry

If we had mountains to walk up and down we could excersize those mussle areas those in mountanous reigons do. I mean come on I am a fat bastard and can promise You if we had rough terrain to travel by foot we wouldn't be in such a sad shape as we are today.

#22 | Posted by LarryMohr

Excuses, excuses, excuses. Walk, bike, use wholegrain breads/cereals and eat your veggies Larry and cut out the fast food if you eat it. Forget the BS about meat reasonable consumption of meat is actually better than cutting it out or - what is it the South Beach Diet? - where you overload on meat. And remember pasta and potatoes are NOT culprits in being overweight they're actually your friend in weight loss.

Or better yet get the hell outta Kansas and move to where there's some fucking mountains!!!

GREAT Idear. Move to the mountains where I can kill Myself having to walk them. I guess I do have a wheel barrow. I could put My belly in it and push Me and it up the hills. Now I just gotta get a motorized one to reduce the load.

Larry

Larry I really don't know what I'm gonna do with you. Are you as much a self-pitying soul in person?

Wait don't answer that just grow a pair damnit!

There is so much fraud waste abuse and inefficiency
#2 | Posted by MURPHY

How much, excactly, Murky?

I'd rather have my health care controlled by me--not the gov't.
#4 | Posted by MURPHY

Your insurance company, over the practices and policies of which you exert zero control, ought to be proud of you, Murky: spoken like a good little corporate tool-wage slave.

The gov't can't force US to get health insurance--it's unconstitutional.
#8 | Posted by MURPHY

Do you drive? Does your state require you to have insurance? Want to rev up a test case? LOL!

"providing Medicare recipients with vouchers that allow them to purchase their own coverage"

Yeah, got to give the insurance companies a share of Medicare dollars, can't let them miss a profit opportunity. This isn't even a very well disguised attempt to privatize a program which is already running a deficit, including insurance companies will just make it worse. Can anyone name one program that was privatized yet continued to provide the same level of service without raising the cost??? No, because it goes against the laws of mathematics.
Privatization = Cronyization

"Palin: Obama and the Bureaucratization of Health Care"

There's going to be a bureaucracy?

Well that does it, stick me with the GNOP'ers.

We don't need no stinking bureaucrazy in Health Care!

Flat terrain is awesome for riding a bicycle for exercise.

No need for fancy 12-speeds.

When I lived in the Florida panhandle I lost weight just by tooling around town and out to the beach on my "sun cruiser".

Of course, I guess you need someplace interesting to go, which probably leaves out most of Kansas.

"I'd rather have my health care controlled by me not the government"

i thought it was a government by the people for the people of the people?

first, you don't have control... if you think you do, you're are extremely blind.

"why not fix what we already have?"

You are right murphy, why has the private health care system failed to fix itself? Why is it people currently on government health care programs such as medicare are the ones most satisfied with the care they are receive?

Why have the corporations failed to build a consumer friendly industry?