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Wednesday, September 02, 2009

The Onion: Apollo 11 mission commander and famed astronaut Neil Armstrong shocked reporters at a press conference Monday, announcing he had been convinced that his historic first step on the moon was part of an elaborate hoax orchestrated by the United States government.

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You almost had me.

"conspiracy theorist Ralph Coleman's website, OmissionControl.org"

This must be where Buffalo_Bob get his material from.

You almost had me.
#1 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

You had me.
In fact, you still have me.
~JiggyNDenmark

you guys!!!!!!!!!!1

I thought for a moment there that it was allready friday afternoon about 6:30.....

Buzz Aldrin on the Alex Jones Show 8-17-09 Part 1
www.youtube.com

Part 2
www.youtube.com

Very interesting!

Part 3
www.youtube.com

Part 3
The Van Allen belt...And possible life on other planets. Humanity reaching out to the stars. The obelisk on Mars.
part 4... a continuation of the same.
www.youtube.com
Worth listening to.

Faking the moon landing would be an even cooler accomplishment than really going there.

Faking the moon landing would be an even cooler accomplishment than really going there.

Wouldn't we have needed to fake it multiple times... seeing how we went there multiple times?

I can't find the last part... Sorry.

I can't find the last part... Sorry.

Oh dear. My day is ruined.

Zombie's wife fakes multiples all the time.

Yeah... Never mind what Buzz Aldrin has to say, just because he is on the Alex Jones show.

Listen to Zombiehead he knows everything.

He are smart.

What the conspiracy theorist fail to relize, is that the Sovit Union would turn the US into a laughing stock of idiots if they proved it was false. So why risk a fake landing? If there is any possible chance to proven other wise

Even during the cold war Russia had plenty of opprotunites to prove the landings were false. The bottom line is, that even now the common knowlege is that US landed on the moon. With more space missions being planned for the moon, time will reveal that the conspiracy theorist are nuts, and people like BB and JND will fade away

Zombie's wife fakes multiples all the time.

Wasn't aware that I was married.

Anyway, you talk a lot of shit for being an old fuck whose wife ditched him for someone sane.

fakes multiples all the time.
#13 | Posted by JeffnDenmark | Flag: Ample Experience with Faked Multiples

Zombie's wife fakes multiples all the time.

It's true. She said 32

Goat, of all the things I thought that link could be...

I just thought this was perfect after BooB quoted the Onion...

www.drudge.com

My dad met Buzz Aldrin, cause he (my dad) made the first lifelines used in space walks. Buzz said looking at the earth from the moon's surface was the most moving experience of his life. You just can't make up stuff like that!

I met Buzz too. He was friends of the family who lived next door to me growing up. The man of the house was a col in the AF and a POW in Viet Nam. (he is now a US rep from Texas) Buzz came over and Mrs. J., knowing that I was enamored with the space program introduced him to me. He gave me an Apollo XI patch which he signed on the back. I still have it.

How could someone like Neil Armstrong be so fucked up that they actually buy into this brain fucked conspiracy theory? Just recently they took photos of the lunar vehicle, still sitting where it was left. My GOD, I thought we had stringent mental testing for the folks we sent into space, Armstrong will now go down in history as your mental case space cadet, what a fucking shame.
Neil, quit drinking the Fool-Ade, you are a American hero, an icon, don't let that cluster fuck clown ralph coleman turn you into a joke. You proved that the moon was'nt made of cheese, and that the Earth is almost round.

How could someone like Neil Armstrong be so fucked up that they actually buy into this brain fucked conspiracy theory?
#24 | Posted by rightnut at 2009-09-02 06:45 PM | Reply | Flag: Dumber than Buffalo Chips Bob

Rightnut-
Re: How could someone like Neil Armstrong be so fucked up that they actually buy into this brain fucked conspiracy theory?

ROFLMAO!

Of course, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised, as this poster evidently thinks that Armstrong "proved that the moon was'nt made of cheese, and that the Earth is almost round.".....

#26 | Posted by BetelG at 2009-09-02 07:08 PM | Reply | Flag: Thought the Onion was a great source for bOoB to quote, though

Goatman-
re: "Thought the Onion was a great source for bOoB to quote, though"

When did I say that? The Onion is a satire site, and frequently damned funny, as in this case. For the life of me, I can't recall approving of The Onion as a factual news source, dude. So, why don't you quote me?

When did I say that?

I didn't see you chastise bOoB for quoting the Onion, so you must approve of him doing it.

Goatman-
I wasn't posting on the thread, (and I don't think I was even on the blog), you fucking moron.

Goatman-
Get over me. It's annoying.

I wasn't posting on the thread, (and I don't think I was even on the blog), you fucking moron.

You approved of him quoting the onion. If you didn't you would have said something. The thread is still there

Go stalk someone else, Goatman. You are embarrassing yourself (if that's possible).

Faking the moon landing would be an even cooler accomplishment than really going there.

That whole budget saving Apollo 13 was brilliant, wasn't it?

You are embarrassing yourself (if that's possible).

It's not near as embarrassing as being supportive of da bOoB's use of the Onion as a reference. That's pretty fucking sad, boyd.

What's "pretty sad", Goatman, is that you have a bug up your ass. You equate Buffalo Bob (whom I went after for months over his conspiracy shit until I was blue in the face) saying something else stupid on a thread I wasn't posting on with your inability to even challenge a poster -on athread you were posting on at the time!- who applies a different genus and species name to American blacks. This fits in with your statement that some blacks are "niggers", I guess.

Tell you what: Fuck off, and don't run to every thread I post on with your bullshit. It's annoying.

Tell you what: Fuck off, and don't run to every thread I post on with your bullshit. It's annoying.

Poor boyd's getting pissed. I would be too if I was exposed to be a buffalo bob fan. You obviousliy agree with his using the Onion for a news source or you would have said something by now. But you haven't. Why is that? Rhetorical question, of course. bOoB is a lib and you are a lib and you guys stick together. Party over truth.

You just proved it, bOyD. LOL Are you joining ratsa with bOoB in bOoBistan?

I don't get it why is everybody making fun of the Onion? It must be a reputable news source cause Yahoo let's me have it on my myyahoo just like they let me have the Drudge Retort.

Gee the next thing you'll be telling me is I can't believe everything I read here which would be poppycock cause Wittle Wogers would never allow anything on the DR that wasn't true. Right Wogers?

Goatman-
If you are troubled by my posts, why don't you whine to Rcade again and get them removed?

But as to this: bOoB is a lib and you are a lib and you guys stick together. Party over truth.

Buffalo Bob is a lunatic conspiracy theorist. I went after him for months over his 9/11 crap, you fucking moron. I made it my hobby, until I got sick of it. You tolerate racists on a daily basis, and always have. Perhaps it's because you figure they are talking about the "niggers", and not the good black folk you work with, or live near.

Try this, Goatman: Go to some of your black friends and show them some of the comments from 101 and Jak. Tell them how you decide which of them are "niggers", and which aren't. You fellas have a nice conversation, okay?

As for me, I'm going to go do something else. Enjoy that conversation, Goatman.

If you are troubled by my posts, why don't you whine to Rcade again and get them removed?

I'm not in the least troubled by your posts, boyd. In fact I am amused by your party over truth stance you display in your support of bOoB's outrageous news sources.

Keep it up!

GOOD ON YOU NEIL!!!! The only problem is that now the US Govt will either put you in a mental hospital on huge doses of "brain-be-gone" or else they'll effect your sudden and untimely demise (aka suicide)! On the other hand if what you say is true Neil then Washington DC richly deserves to be obliterated and blown off the face of the earth! Otherwise its all a colossal,$trillion dollar,flag-waving joke and the American public are now the(rightful) laughing stock of the entire world!!!

There is absolutely nothing wrong with quoting the onion if what they say is facts, verified by other "more acceptable" sites. I corrected their mistakes, but their mistakes did not alter the fact that more Iraqis died after the US invasion than in all the years Saddam was in power. You little minds can't refute my points, so you attack the site, and me personally. That makes you losers.

Simple isn't it.

;-)

BetelG thinks an oxygen starved, smoky fire can weaken steel---that shows his idiocy. He denies the presense of melted steel weeks after the event, despite first hand reports and videos of still glowing steel after weeks. He seems to think that burying stell with water will melt the steel by rusting really really fast. BetelG can see a 757 slipping through a 15 foot hole, which closes the case on his mental disorder.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with quoting the onion if what they say is facts, verified by other "more acceptable" sites. I corrected their mistakes, but their mistakes did not alter the fact that more Iraqis died after the US invasion than in all the years Saddam was in power.

Bullshit.

Saddam's body count: Approaching two million, including between 150,000 and 340,000 Iraqi and between 450,000 and 730,000 Iranian combatants killed during the Iran-Iraq War. An estimated 1,000 Kuwaiti nationals killed following the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. No conclusive figures for the number of Iraqis killed during the Gulf War, with estimates varying from as few as 1,500 to as many as 200,000. Over 100,000 Kurds killed or "disappeared". No reliable figures for the number of Iraqi dissidents and Shia Muslims killed during Saddam's reign, though estimates put the figure between 60,000 and 150,000. (Mass graves discovered following the US occupation of Iraq in 2003 suggest that the total combined figure for Kurds, Shias and dissidents killed could be as high as 300,000). Approximately 500,000 Iraqi children dead because of international trade sanctions introduced following the Gulf War.
www.moreorless.au.com

Iraq war body count: 93,040 101,537 Documented civilian deaths from violence.
www.iraqbodycount.org

Iraq war body count should read:

93,040 - 101,537 Documented civilian deaths from violence.

Moomanfl

The discussion was about how many Iraqis Saddam killed. Your numbers include 730,000 IRANIAN deaths, and deaths of Iraqis killed in war with Iran.

It attributes about 300,000 Iraqi deaths to Saddam, which is the figure I quoted, and those are the deaths in question. The deaths from war may have happened no matter who was in charge, and are not a factor in if Iraq was better off with Saddam or after the US overthrew his regime. However, I see your point--it just isn't a factor in the discussion at hand, which is--How many Iraqis did Saddam kill or order killed, that wouldn't have died if Saddam wasn't President. The 500,000 children that you cite that died from sanctions should be placed on the nations who imposed the sanctions--not Saddam---but that is my opinion. I can see the point that the sanctions wouldn't have been there had he not been President. But I wouldn't starve children or have children die because I didn't like the politics of a President. The sanctioning nations have to bear some of the responsibilty. I hope you can see that point also.

The IBC is an British based research group, that only counts deaths by violent actions--as your link to it says. The Lancet, and John Hopkins Hospital counts all deaths attributed to the war that wouldn't have happened if there were no invasion. The two studies can't be compared since their criteria was different.

I say that both studies are valid, and conclusions may be drawn from both equally to support whatever conclusions one wants to draw.

What I do know is this--Iraq never threatened America in anyway, and the Americans who have lost their lives there died for nothing. I wouldn't give my life for Iraqi freedom, and I wouldn't send any other Americans to die for Iraqi freedom either. You can disagree with that also, but I would expect you to say that giving your life for Iraqi freedom is something you would do, or something you would send other Americans to do.

At least you didn't attack the site or me personally, which puts you far above most.

Enjoy that conversation, Goatman

formerly known as goat, now just el cabron

good one betel

formerly known as goat, now just el cabron

I like el cabron. Thanks

Bob,

Since you are only counting verifiable deaths ordered directly by Saddam, it is only fair to only count verifiable deaths in the Iraq War that are directly attributable to the war. Seeing that you accept the 300k number the comparison is as follows:

Saddam: 300,000
Iraq War: 101,537 at the most

Either way, your assertion that the war has killed more than Saddam is false.

The Lancet, and John Hopkins Hospital counts all deaths attributed to the war that wouldn't have happened if there were no invasion.

The Lancet study has also been criticized for its inclusion and sampling methods. While it is the preferred study to trot out by anti-war and/or anti-Bush people, its reliability is in serious question.

Poor boyd's getting pissed. I would be too if I was exposed to be a buffalo bob fan.

You ARE his biggest fan, goat. You spend more time with him than anyone else here, or at his psyche ward.

You ARE his biggest fan, goat.

Who couldn't be a fan of an intellect that showers us with bon mots like "you fucking moron"?

The Lancet, and John Hopkins Hospital counts all deaths attributed to the war that wouldn't have happened if there were no invasion.

One further point on this. If you insist on using these sources, then I would have to include the 500,000 children dead since those children would not have died if Saddam had not performed the actions that caused the UN sanctions. Since the Lancet and John Hopkins Hospital numbers try to include such indirect deaths in their numbers, then it is only fair to include similar indirect deaths in the opposing numbers. The revised totals would then be:

Saddam: 800,000

Iraq War: 654,965

Saddam still comes out the bigger killer.

Don't forget W's daddy who left those he called on to rebel against Saddam then failed to protect or help in any way who Saddam then butchered over the next year. Over 250,000.

I believe that 250,000 that Saddam killed is included in the number under Saddam's total.

Moonmanfl

If true, then those 250,000 should go in the Bush/Iraq War column. They were killed specifically because they either took part or were suspected in taking part in a rebellion undeniably called for by Bush 41. Isn't it a shame we didn't back them up? Saddam would have been gone 18 years ago and Iraq would have been an entirely different situation: An Arab country very Pro-American. They did exactly what our President asked them to in 1991 and he abandoned them. Shame.

They did exactly what our President asked them to in 1991 and he abandoned them. Shame.

#55 | Posted by Timex

Shame is far too kind of a word to describe this.

#52 | Posted by moomanfl at 2009-09-03 01:45 AM | Reply | Flag

I already addressed the 500,000, and conceded your point---you failed to address my point about the 500,000.

In addition, it took Saddam 25 years to kill so many--we accomplished competitive numbers in much less time.

I will even say that Saddam was the bigger killer---but that we are even in the race is a shame on us.

I said I wouldn't be willing to give my life for Iraqi freedom---would you give your life for Iraqi freedom?

Saddam: 300,000
Iraq War: 101,537 at the most

According to Dumbya's own numbers Saddam's 23 years death toll was aprox 900,000.

That figure includes the 100,000 who were slaughtered by his daddy on the "Highway of Death" in Gulf War I.

The number of Iraqi dead estimated in Baghdad alone since the occupation began is over 100,000 alone.

The real number of fatalities traceable to the war is aprox 1.2 million Iraqis.

On a per capita basis that makes the Civil War that America endured look like a water balloon fight in direct comparison.

Bush killed more than Saddam in far less time.

That's not even mentioning the millions of displaced, disposessed refugees which number over 3 million.

On Topic.

Spud's actually met Neil Armstrong.

Heckuva nice guy.

People who don't believe man landed on the moon are lunatics, literally.

Neil, quit drinking the Fool-Ade

~Rightnut.

Ha-Ha!

Damn that's almost as funny as BBob linking to the Onion the other day.

Maybe even funnier.

Kudos to the Onion as usual.

Funneh stuff.

Be Well.

/As he do
stage left.

Spud's actually met Neil Armstrong.

I'm envious. He would be my number one choice of astronauts to shake hands with. I shook hands with my number 2 choice, John Glenn at a book signing at B&N. I stook in line 4 hours to do this. And I don't stand in line for anything usually -- much less for 4 hours.

I also shook Jim Lovell's hand and got a dedicated signature in his book, "Lost Moon". My wife hired him as a motivational speaker at her work once.

But Neil Armstrong himself? As I said, I'm envious.

But Neil Armstrong himself? As I said, I'm envious.
#59 | Posted by goatman

Me, too.

Knew a girl once and Armstrong was some sort of relation, not family-tree drawing real close like an uncle but not out there about to drop like a second-cousin's aunt's stepfather's son. Anyway, she said you'd never know he was First On The Moon; just a quiet, laid back sort of guy, pleasant and modest.

I think what's impressed me almost as much as Armstrong's claim to fame is the way he's conducted himself since.

"I'm envious. He would be my number one choice of astronauts to shake hands with. I shook hands with my number 2 choice, John Glenn at a book signing at B&N. I stook in line 4 hours to do this. And I don't stand in line for anything usually -- much less for 4 hours.

I also shook Jim Lovell's hand and got a dedicated signature in his book, "Lost Moon". My wife hired him as a motivational speaker at her work once.

But Neil Armstrong himself? As I said, I'm envious."

I'm an astronaut fan too. My "collection" so far includes Hank Hartsfield (who's also a fraternity brother), Jim Lovell, Richard Gordon and, a few weeks ago, Buzz Aldrin. And a few other autographs such as Story Musgrave.

I think what's impressed me almost as much as Armstrong's claim to fame is the way he's conducted himself since.

That's called 'class' and yes, the man definitely and thankfully has it. I would hate to see the first man in history to step foot on body other than the earth doing Elvis like tours.

Of course his reclusive nature is proof that he is hiding something -- just ask da bOoB and li'l jeffy.

If You ever come to Kansas let Me know and I'll take You to our space museum that includes the real Apollo 13 command module.

I'm an astronaut fan too. My "collection" so far includes Hank Hartsfield (who's also a fraternity brother), Jim Lovell, Richard Gordon and, a few weeks ago, Buzz Aldrin. And a few other autographs such as Story Musgrave.

Buzz Aldrin: I've told this story before, so if you've seen it, skip this post.

I grew up next to a family whose husband was a Col in the AF and a POW in Viet Nam most of the years we lived there. (he is currently a US rep from Texas) Buzz Aldrin was a friend of the family. Mrs. J told me once that he was coming over. This was after his Gemini Mission, but before Apollo XI. My mom told me not to bother him -- he was too important of a man. LOL

Well, I hung out in my front yard until I saw the pale green car with the US government tags pull up. When he got out of the car, I ran over and shook his hand and exchanged a couple of words with him telling him what a fan I was of NASA and the space program.

A year or so later, after he had been to the moon, he came to the J.'s house again. He had Mrs. J call to see if I was home. I was. I came over. He had an Apollo XI patch for me that he signed on the back. I was so proud of that I had my mom sew it on my jacket. But she washed it once and the signature faded. I still have that patch and his signature is still legible, though.

If You ever come to Kansas let Me know and I'll take You to our space museum that includes the real Apollo 13 command module

I would like to see that.

I saw the burned out Apollo I capsule in a hangar at Ellington AFB in the '60s. It was from the other side of the hangar -- I could not approach it. My uncle was in the AF and worked there. It was not on public display, of course. I'm still not sure why it was sent there after that disaster.

They did exactly what our President asked them to in 1991 and he abandoned them. Shame.

According to the saudis, Bush did a little more than "abandon" them. The saudis claim Bush and they actually assisted Saddam in keeping the shia out of power.

"He had an Apollo XI patch for me that he signed on the back. I was so proud of that I had my mom sew it on my jacket."

Honest question - if he signed the patch "on the back" and you had it sewn on your jacket - who could see the signature?

"Even during the cold war Russia had plenty of opportunites to prove the landings were false. "
#16 | Posted by cmbell73

If the Russians had announced it, they would have had to stop their space program. That would have cost a lot of money to those pocketing the change.

Didn't the Mythbusters already bust this myth?

Anyway, she said you'd never know he was First On The Moon; just a quiet, laid back sort of guy, pleasant and modest.
I think what's impressed me almost as much as Armstrong's claim to fame is the way he's conducted himself since.

#60 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis


Funny how the article doesn't read like you'd expect ...based on this description of Neil I mean. Almost reads like he's submitting to Coleman's superior intellect and years (let me add "literally years" here too) of study of some self-proclaimed research guru fella'. I tell ya... If I didn't know any better, I might question this article :-D

I am in no way a conspiracy nut who thinks the moon landings were fake, but I have to wonder why, if the Hubble telescope is so powerful and their is no air between it and the moon, why can't it get pictures of the landing sites and the junk left behind?

Too Funny! To think some people read this as real. Onion really proves the point with the sarcasm - the part time librarian knows more than the guy that actually walked on the moon...just too funny.

Never met any of the guys...but I do know Chuck Yeager...the guy that made it all possible.

A real hard ass - my type of guy.

but you can believe everything else

Armstrong had to be in on the NASA's FRAUD!!!

Neil Armstrong is saying that though he went on this "wild rocket ride" allegedly to the moon - that in fact his wild (g-force laden) rocket ride "delivered" him not to the moon but to some huge "warehouse" on earth that was expertly made up to look like the lunar surface? Were the windows on Armstrong's NASA module "blacked out" so that he didn't know wether he was actually going into space or not? How can you experience the visuals (sky is getting darker,earth is getting rounder and bluer) plus the heavy g-forces of being rocketed into space,without actually being rocketed into space? Is Armstrong saying NASA kept him and his co-pilots in their moon module for days (in some warehouse in Florida) while they believed they had experienced "blast off" and were enroute to the moon? This is Totally Unbelievable!!! If NASA's whole 1969 moon landing was a "Fake" then Neil Armonstrong and his fellow astronauts knew it and "fully & willingly" participated in NASA'a Gigantic Fraud!!!

#15 | POSTED BY CMBELL73
"What the conspiracy theorist fail to relize, is that the Sovit Union would turn the US into a laughing stock of idiots if they proved it was false. So why risk a fake landing? If there is any possible chance to proven other wise"

If they're thinking the moon landing was faked, then we can't we really expect them to realize your point.

#72 | POSTED BY FOSHAFFER
"I do know Chuck Yeager"

Never met Yeager, but I've met Sam Shepard a couple times. Does that count?

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