Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, September 02, 2009

Drunken brawls, prostitutes, hazing and humiliation, taking vodka shots out of buttcracks no, the perpetrators of these Animal House-like antics aren't some depraved frat brothers. They are the private security contractors guarding Camp Sullivan, otherwise known as the US Embassy in Kabul. These allegations, and many more, are contained in a letter sent to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Tuesday by the Project on Government Oversight, which has been investigating the embassy security contract held by ArmorGroup North America.

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...Drunken brawls, prostitutes, hazing and humiliation, taking vodka shots out of buttcracks no, the perpetrators of these Animal House-like antics aren't some depraved frat brothers. They are the private security contractors guarding Camp Sullivan, otherwise known as the US Embassy in Kabul.

No wonder Blackwater has guys lined up around the block waiting to fill out a job application.

where can I sign up,minus the hazing and humiliation

which has been investigating the embassy security contract held by ArmorGroup North America (a subsidiary of Wackenhut, which is in turn owned by the security behemoth G4S).

Doesn't jackass work for Wackenhut?

Remove all private military contractors.

NOW.

Seriously, it's an idea that's so wrong on so many levels it's scary.

They are overpaid, under policed and generally out of control.

"Of course they went too far, where else did they have to go?"

Be Well.

Drunken brawls......taking vodka shots out of buttcracks...


Before you guys run to enlist, don't forget things are done a little differently over in Afghanistan.




REIT

Doesn't jackass work for Wackenhut?

First he does . . . then he doesn't.

Then he does again.

Then he doesn't again.

Then he's an ET for a company that makes robotic arms and conveyor belts.

Then he's taking a class to learn how to install and repair solar panels.

Then he's flying off for a job interview (the result of which we'll never hear about).

Then he's supporting the economy in Neuvo Laredo (prostitutes south of the border).

So who knows?

#6 FF and newsworthy!

Don't forget he's an ET for some sort of medical equipment as well.

I guess in bOoBistan, pop 2, eveyone is required to wear many hats.

I remember now -- he said he was a biomedical engineer, though when I googled that it described a job different than what ratsa said he did.

I guess you can be really versatile like that when you have a Masters degree. BTW, has he ever said what that Masters was in? I honestly don't recall that he has ever said.

GOATMAN

You're right! Jackass never did say, did he?

However, my photographic memory is picturing something written on the back of a matchbook cover.

I see a little headline that says "Is Mr. the only title you've ever had?"

Call 1-800- something, something.

Give me a few minutes. It'll come to me.

I see a little headline that says "Is Mr. the only title you've ever had?"


"Hey kid, what are you gonna be when you grow up?"

"I'm gonna be a husband, just like dad".

I posted this elsewhere about Jackass:

I first found out what he was when I caught him lying about his karate-skillz... making basic mistakes in terminology even a white-belt wouldn't make.

Then he sent me pics from the internet claiming these were of his "teacher".

I am pretty sure he just bags groceries and cleans toilets (something he admitted to).

Super multi-tasking toilet cleaning solar panel installing master's degree ninja....

.. who steals from his kid....

Anyway, I said so before that American troops are into hookers in Afghanistan.

I was the FIRST to say that. NOBODY believed me.

Now what do you say? Is my info always correct or not?

Oh... these are "private contractors" not American troops???

Well sir... they are working in an official capacity and are getting paid by the American Govt. and they carry guns.

Secondly, just wait for it. More news will come out eventually.


.. who steals from his kid....

Posted by Tosser at 2009-09-02 07:58 AM | Reply

One that ultimately steals from Himself.

I even know they like to have the EXACT same Pakistani ice cream, I like to have. LOL

We send it to them from here every day by the container load.

Walls Cornetto Classic, vanilla-chocolate. The ice cream of mercenaries and Tossers.

Walls Cornetto Classic, vanilla-chocolate. The ice cream of mercenaries and Tossers.

I can't compare it to what we have here, of course, but about 2 decades ago there was a small dairy in Brenham Texas that sold ice cream locally. It was so good that a friend and I would drive 250 miles to it and pack coolers with dry ice and bring back several gallons.

This was even before word of this dairy was known outside of that county. They started selling their ice cream outside of the county in S Central Texas. Then it made it all over Texas.

It is now spreading throughout the south and southeaster US.

Blue Bell ice cream. I'm proud to say I was eating it and going 250 miles for it before anyone outside of Brenham, Texas even heard of it.

That is the ice cream we get on the rig now, btw.

This is the ice-cream "of Tosser and Mercenaries"...

farm4.static.flickr.com

Both in a cup and as a cone.

If you ever wondered what ice-cream they have after their orgies... now you know.

I'm proud to say I was eating it and going 250 miles for it before anyone outside of Brenham, Texas even heard of it.


Some people just don't understand how important ice-cream can be.

I used to hang out all the time at those.. "36 flavors" ice-cream and video-game joints in the 80s.

In fact, I open up the freezer in the supermarket and go "hey, where is the vanilla cornetto?"

And they say "sorry sir... short supply... it all went to Af-fucking-stan.... How about some STRAWBERRY???"

"Do I look like I am ten years old? Strawberry...."

The private contractors are in a cold war against Tosser. Because of them, I don't get my favorite flavor sometimes.

When I visited Avery Island, Louisiana where they make Tabasco (tm) hot sauce, I was surprised to see they served Tabasco ice cream! I thought YUK! But I tried it and it was incredibly good. Who would've known?


I was surprised to see they served Tabasco ice cream! I thought YUK! But I tried it and it was incredibly good.


I would LOVE to try that. I have Tabasco with most of my meals all the time.

Tabasco ice cream???

Oh that is a huge YUCK!!!!

You'd be surprised, Lisa.

If you are ever in LaFayette, LA, make a side trip to Avery Island. It is interesting to see how they make Tabasco (it is fermented in wooden barrels for 2 years (I think) before it is bottled.

Avery Island is only 1/2 hour drive off of I-10. It's worth the trip.

I have Tabasco with most of my meals all the time.

Too much vinegar in that stuff for me... I go with chili oil.

I make my own hot sauce and it rocks!

I don't mean to pat myself on the back, but the truth is, well...the truth.

Tobasco ice cream! That'a about as bad as any of those Cornettos.

Best ice cream I had was the one I licked off .... (insert joke here).

Crisis

Too much vinegar

Vinegar is cool because it works as a natural preservative. However, it tends to overpower. I use a lot of fresh-squeezed lime-juice - it is the key ingredient to my sauce.

I can't handle all that hot stuff.

My husband loves it though. But I "harp" as he calls it because he has an ulcer and shouldn't eat that gut wrenching stuff!

Although he claims it wasn't what he eats...he says I gave him that ulcer!! Lol

Naaaaw! Ya think?? : )

Tabasco (it is fermented in wooden barrels for 2 years (I think)

3 years.


In this age of Xanthan gum and all sorts of other awful sounding chemicals, the list of ingredients for tabasco is classic:

Distilled vinegar, red pepper, salt.


That's it!

I don't mean to pat myself on the back, but the truth is, well...the truth.

Tell me how you do it. Email if you think the recipephobes will freak out.

I make a simple one by putting Cayenne peppers in vinegar. I use it mainly on greens -- collard, turnip, spinach, mustard, etc.

Other than some home-mades, www.bluebell.com is the best ice cream I've ever had.

My dad used to make the best ice cream when I was a kid. I can remember he had one of those old wooden buckets with the hand crank on it. My job was to sit on top of the cranking device while he turned it so it wouldn't pop off. LOL

In the summer when our peach tree was at its peak (a period that lasted 10 days at the most) he would put those tree-ripened peaches in it. To this day, I've never had better ice cream.

I'm drooling now thinking of it.


Hmmmm... I had wondered what Walt was up to......

Hmmmm... I had wondered what Walt was up to......


He was stealing my ice-cream and having ice-cream orgies with it. That is what he was up to.

Brought to You Courtesy of the "christian Nation" via the "Party of Family Values"

Unless you've experienced serving in a combat zone, you shouldn't be too quick to critize what people will do for kicks when there's a real chance they won't live to see tomorrow.

Why should we care what they do when they are off duty? Did they break some law?

Too much vinegar

Vinegar is cool because it works as a natural preservative. However, it tends to overpower. I use a lot of fresh-squeezed lime-juice - it is the key ingredient to my sauce.

#30 | Posted by JeffJ

Try balsamic vinegar, I've had excellent results. I also throw in a couple spoons of maple syrup granules. Takes the bite away.

Mango salsa made with habaneros mmmmmmmmmmmmm

Did they break some law?


Breaking the discipline and respect associated with the chain of command, at the very least.

And yes, that is taken seriously. Any military person will tell you that.

And the fuckers took my ice cream. In my book that is also a crime.

Here is something else Hillary can apologize to the world for.

When is her next apology tour?

Not to interrupt the fun and games, but does anyone remember WHO changed the pentagon rules during the reagan/bush41 era to allow private contractors to begin doing the jobs our military had always done for themselves?

And as a result became a millionaire several times over?

As you read or see this story, remember the Walter Reed scandal. The problems in that VA hospital were specific to the areas that were privatized.


This is why imo, our education, healthcare, and national defense/military cannot be allowed to be at the whim of private corporations who place profits before the "mission".

Bullhorn..... Screech Pffftttttt ....


We would like to make an announcement from MRS.... Clinton........
(whispering) I know... Ill be carefull donlt worry Fog Hat.... (nervous whisperng) No.... Don't worry realy....

I have just been informed that MRS will not be making a statement and that We are authorized to read her statement to the press.......

The Secretery Of State would like to say that she has launched an investigation into the reports coming out of the Afgan Area in regard to Wild drinking parties and the like....

Had she known Bill was in Afghanistan she would have told him to behave... ( Angry Whispering) What?.... Hehe... yea I just thought I would throw tha.....(more Angry Whispering) Oh.... OK... Well I didn't know that.... (Wispering again)... Oh... I promis.... OK...

Bullhorn> Squeelll Screech ......... Anyway.... I have just been informed that that was a mistake..... president Clinton was not in the Afgan area... Anyway.... Mrs. Clinton goes on to say that there will be an investigation into the stories coming out of Afghanistan and that she will get to the bottom of it.... She goes on further to say that she can't understand the conduct of these individuals in regard to the drinking and the doing shots from body areas....

Also she would like to assure the world that from now on.... All Male personell at ALL US Embassies.... Will be keeping their Peckers in Her Pants! (Wild Angry Whispering) What...... (More Angry Whispering) Oh... I did? Sorry Fog Hat.... (Angry Whispering)... OH... OK I'll Take care of it......

Bullhorn.... Squeeeel Screeech Pffffftt....... Ah.... Correction Their Pants.....


That is all.......

Any military person will tell you that.

#41 | Posted by Tosser

I didn't know they were military.

I didn't know they were military.

#46 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2009-09-02 05:54 PM

They aren't and that is the problem, along with the fact that it's their job to support our troops and mission, and are directly responsible for the security of our diplomatic corps.

But why let that little fact get in your way, eh snipe?

I didn't know they were military.


They are doing a job that should be done by the military and they should be held accountable by military standards.

As for such people, they are usually ex-military, ex-cops, and spooks (there is no such thing as an ex-spook). Some really are plumbers and carpenters, however.

which has been investigating the embassy security contract held by ArmorGroup North America (a subsidiary of Wackenhut, which is in turn owned by the security behemoth G4S).

Doesn't jackass work for Wackenhut?

#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot


I did before but I worked domestically only and usually it was a weekend gig to supplement my income. I know one of the guys I worked with was planning on transferring positions to Kosovo because the overseas guys made a pretty good salary.

From the looks of those photos "ArmorGrope" should be based out of vermont...

Okay, it's a stretch but on short notice what can you expect???

The thing that bothers me about the actions of these private security guards is that they are weak minded. Hazing and other rites of initiation are the work of a few bull-headed individuals on power trips and the cooperation of weak-minded pussies who allow themselves to be humiliated and documented being that way. These individuals pose a security threat in an industry that provides life-saving protection for their clients and these weaklings allow themselves to be compromised instead of standing up for themselves and saying "You want me to do what?" "Go f--- yourself!" Weak, totally weak.

Again, WHO was it that began the practice privatization of our military/national security?


As Defense Secretary, Mr. Cheney commissioned a study for the U.S. Department of Defense by Brown and Root Services (now Kellogg, Brown and Root), a wholly owned subsidiary of Halliburton. The study recommended that private firms like Halliburton should take over logistical support programs for U.S. military operations around the world. Just two years after he was Secretary of Defense, Cheney stepped through the revolving door linking the Department of Defense with defense contractors and became CEO of Halliburton. Halliburton was the principal beneficiary of Cheney's privatization efforts for our military's logistical support and Cheney was paid $44 million for five year's work with them before he slipped back through the revolving door of war profiteering to become Vice-President of the United States. When asked about the money he received from Halliburton, Cheney said. "I tell you that the government had absolutely nothing to do with it."
Under Cheney's leadership Halliburton out did Enron in using offshore subsidiaries as tax shelters to hide profits to bilk U.S. taxpayers. Halliburton also utilized off-shore subsidiaries to contract for services and sell banned equipment to rogue states like Iran, Iraq and Libya. This would be illegal if done directly by Halliburton.
At last count Halliburton had 58 offshore subsidiaries in Caribbean tax havens. With Cheney at the helm Halliburton's tax payments to the U.S. went from $302 million in 1998 to zero in 1999, when they also received a refund of $85 million from the Internal Revenue Service.
During Cheney's tenure as CEO from 1995 to 2000, Halliburton Products and Services set up shop in Iran. The Halliburton subsidiary does approximately $40 million a year worth of oil field service work for the Iranian government. 60 Minutes correspondent Lesley Stahl visited the subsidiary in the Cayman Islands and found that it had no office and no employees. The mailing address was a local bank with which the subsidiary is registered. Stahl was met there by the bank's manager who informed her that all mail to the subsidiary is forwarded to Halliburton headquarters in Houston. Halliburton had created the subsidiary to allow itself to do illegal business with a rogue state and to skip out on its taxes in the process.
At last count Halliburton had 58 offshore subsidiaries in Caribbean tax havens. With Cheney at the helm Halliburton's tax payments to the U.S. went from $302 million in 1998 to zero in 1999, when they also received a refund of $85 million from the Internal Revenue Service.
Cheney's company is doing business with Iran through a subsidiary and dodging its tax obligations to the U.S.
Halliburton has been more closely associated with the invasion of Iraq than any other corporation. Before the Iraq War began, it was 19th on the U.S. Army's list of top contractors and zoomed to number 1 in 2003. In 2003 Halliburton made $4.2 billion from the U.S. government. Cheney stated he had , "severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest."
Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) recently asserted that Cheney's stock options which were worth $241,498 a year ago, are now valued at more than $8 million-- for an increase of 3,281% . Cheney has pledged to give the proceeds to charity. Cheney continues to received a deferred salary from the company. He was paid $205,298 in 2001; $162,392 in 2002; $178,437 in 2003; and $194,852 in 2004.
www.commondreams.org

I hate to ask buty didn't LBJ's Wife Lady Bird johnson have anything to do with brown and root doing Military like subcontracting for the Military. I seem to recall that was partially the reason why LBJ didn't run for re election. Am I all wet??

Larry

I think I'll borrow one of woke's own phrases and apply it to his propensity towards long cut and pastes that no one reads

"You aren't very bright, are you?"

LOL

"and they should be held accountable by military standards."

abso fuckin lutely

I think I'll borrow one of woke's own phrases and apply it to his propensity towards long cut and pastes that no one reads
"You aren't very bright, are you?"
LOL

#54 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-09-03 09:15 AM


Perhaps not. But i can READ and COMPREHEND what i read instead of letting others TELL ME WHAT TO THINK....

eh?

Woke... contradict yourself much??? I've yet to hear a comment from you that you call your own. Anyone can cut and paste from a prefabricated site and hide behind the comments and reports of other people... Progressive much?

Wow you proved a politician likes to stuff money in his pocket.. woke are you the smartest kid with down syndrome?

Its too bad about these contractors... Camp Sullivan aka U.S. Embassy in kabul needs the same thing every other U.S. embassy needs.. Marines.

There is only one place for a soldiers R&R in the middle east.. Its called Qatar.

I saw the pictures of this "Security Detail" on the news and I just thought they were the new Entertainment Czars Olbananas appointed..

Perhaps not. But i can READ and COMPREHEND what i read instead of letting others TELL ME WHAT TO THINK....

eh?

#56 | Posted by woke at 2009-09-03 10:07 AM

I'm not sure what that has to do with my point of you C&Ping long lists that no one reads, but OK. Eh?

What it has to do with, is the idiocy that READING is too difficult for you. WTF are you doing on this blog? Reading and writing, eh?

Methinks the problem isn't reading, but the fact that you don't want to read anything that might disturb your indoctrination, that makes you uncomfortable, eh?

No problem for me if you prefer to have someone else summarize and to listen to others for your info. Just realize that isn't THINKING for yourself......

Jebus!

WARNING: Actual facts may be closer than you realize....LOL


Rebuking Cheney's Torture Propaganda in 7 Easy Steps
By Jeremy Scahill, Rebel Reports. Posted September 1, 2009.

Cheney is all over the airwaves, trotting out his propaganda and defense of the Bush administration's serial violations of the Geneva conventions

First of all, Dick Cheney has all sorts of nerve purporting to speak in defense of the CIA. His administration outed a senior CIA operative, Valerie Plame, in retaliation for her husband, Ambassador Joseph Wilson, exercising his freedom of speech (because he exercised it to criticize the Bush administration's lie-filled, one-way propaganda train to the Iraq war).

Second, CIA interrogators themselves have said that they believed that Cheney's torture policy put individual CIA personnel in legal jeopardy. As Greg Sargent has pointed out, on page 94 of the recently released Inspector General's report, we learn the following:

"During the course of this Review, a number of Agency officers expressed unsolicited concern about the possibility of recrimination or legal action resulting from their participation in the CTC program.One officer expressed concern that one day, Agency officers will wind up on some "wanted list" to appear before the World Court for war crimes"

in part, read the rest at:
www.alternet.org's_torture_propaganda_in_7_eas
y_steps/?page=3


For my point lets put this new plan to the test. And the amazing thing is all you need is a brain your eyes and just a little common sense I know who I'm dealing with so I'll keep it simple.


Remember my last post for this..... okay????


You have intell on an organized attack on americain soil and its extremely time sensetive. you have three detainees held captive. These detainees have marching orders thanks to our administration that they will get three meals a day 8 hours of sleep. They will NOT be physically or mentally abused. They cant even be threatened. Afterall whats a threat worth if they KNOW they will not be touched in any way. They cant even be coerced in any way which rules out even the use of a lie detectors.


Answer my question and don't deviate. HOW MUCH INTEL DO YOU EXPECT TO GATHER FROM THESE PEOPLE?


Without prove of knowledge you even have to let them goe.... Please tell me..

Here's your answer genius.....

Didn't your mommy ever tell you that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar? I guess not....

I already posted this once and you IGNORED it....let me try again..

Soufan: CIA torture actually hindered our intelligence gathering
An FBI agent testifies that an al-Qaida prisoner provided useful intelligence until the CIA got rough -- and casts doubt on Bush's statements about the effectiveness of harsh interrogations.
By Mark Benjamin
FBI agent Ali Soufan testifies from behind a black curtain and a room divider, right, in Washington Wednesday, during a hearing to examine the Bush administration's detention and interrogation program.
May 14, 2009 | WASHINGTON -- The testimony of a key witness at a Senate hearing Wednesday raised serious questions about the truthfulness of former President George W. Bush's own personal defense of the CIA's brutal interrogation program. Former FBI agent Ali Soufan also indicated that the harsh interrogation techniques may actually have hindered the collection of intelligence, causing a high-value prisoner to stop cooperating.
In the first congressional hearing on torture since the release of Bush administration memos that provided the legal justification for torture, Soufan told the Senate Judiciary Committee that the CIA's abusive techniques were "ineffective, slow and unreliable, and as a result harmful to our efforts to defeat al-Qaida." According to Soufan, his own nonviolent interrogation of an al-Qaida suspect was quickly yielding valuable, actionable intelligence -- until the CIA intervened.
Soufan was with the FBI on March 28, 2002, when the United States captured its first suspected al-Qaida operative after 9/11, a man named Abu Zubaydah, held at a secret location overseas. Soufan had investigated terrorism cases dating back to the East Africa embassy bombings in 1998, and he was one of the first experts called after Zubaydah's capture.
www.salon.com


What's it like to IGNORE facts day after day and instead focus on bullshit?

Now, you are posing red herring/strawman questions to me based on your rw bullshit.....instead of ever ingesting ONE IOTA of FACT from any of those I've posted.....

and you CLAIMED to be an intell officer??

I call bullshit on ya buddy.....

The man in the article is a REAL intell officer monger...not the pretend kind, like yourself...eh?

Furthermore:

What good is intell, if the administration in charge IGNORES all the warnings and instead focuses on their preordained PNAC agenda?

The White House had (at least ) 28 Advanced Intelligence Warnings Prior to 9/11
Compiled by Eric Smith
www.globalresearch.ca

And what good is intell if the admin you work for OUTS your intell programs and officers......???


Time you WOKE buddy

BLOKE DONT GET YOUR PANTIES IN A BUNCH

That does not answer my question one bit... IT can be easily done in a couple of sentences. Not prefabed bs is needed just an honest independant answer out of your mouth???

Anyone can obviously see you are not answering my question


Is it hard to get 2 honest your own opinion sentences out of you I'll republish the question and CONTINUE to publish the question wherever I go..

ITS NOT OFFICER It's Staff Sergeant progressive!

For my point lets put this new plan to the test. And the amazing thing is all you need is a brain your eyes and just a little common sense I know who I'm dealing with so I'll keep it simple.


Remember my last post for this..... okay????


You have intell on an organized attack on americain soil and its extremely time sensetive. you have three detainees held captive. These detainees have marching orders thanks to our administration that they will get three meals a day 8 hours of sleep. They will NOT be physically or mentally abused. They cant even be threatened. Afterall whats a threat worth if they KNOW they will not be touched in any way. They cant even be coerced in any way which rules out even the use of a lie detectors.


Answer my question and don't deviate. HOW MUCH INTEL DO YOU EXPECT TO GATHER FROM THESE PEOPLE?


Without prove of knowledge you even have to let them goe.... Please tell me..

Not an ounce of that answers my question lets leap to now Bloke CURRENTLY how much intell do you expect to gather????

I am not talking about pre 911 not talking about the torture techniques of the past. I'm talking RIGHT NOW!

Bloke your looking a little tangled in your cut and paste policies and defense

Someone needs to be woke up from hiding behind STATEMENTS and make one for themself.

Panties?

Seems to me YOU are the one in FEAR of a handful of well financed SAUDIS.....who were able to attack us because the very people you are defending ignored the warnings and focused on their preordained agenda.....PNAC....google it and read about who Leo Strauss and his neocon founders are.....you know your masters.....who feed you the bs you spew here.

I'm not afraid, and ....I'm not willing to give up our constitution, rules of law, geneva conventions, et al....because some of you little shits are skeered out of your wits.....

Fearmongers beget more fearmongers......

No one will defeat the USA from without. But if we destroy the very values, laws and documents our country was founded on and become just like our enemies.....what victory is that genius??

THINK if you are still able....


I dont want to hear from CIA FBI.. I want YOUR answer bloke.


I'm not debating that an amount of tortured didn't have any effect.


I WANT TO KNOW how effective this current administration is now that the manual and actions are released for everyone to see...


For my point lets put this new plan to the test. And the amazing thing is all you need is a brain your eyes and just a little common sense I know who I'm dealing with so I'll keep it simple.



Remember my last post for this..... okay????



You have intell on an organized attack on americain soil and its extremely time sensetive. you have three detainees held captive. These detainees have marching orders thanks to our administration that they will get three meals a day 8 hours of sleep. They will NOT be physically or mentally abused. They cant even be threatened. Afterall whats a threat worth if they KNOW they will not be touched in any way. They cant even be coerced in any way which rules out even the use of a lie detectors.



Answer my question and don't deviate. HOW MUCH INTEL DO YOU EXPECT TO GATHER FROM THESE PEOPLE?



Without prove of knowledge you even have to let them goe.... Please tell me..

We not only obtained intel on when these bombmakers graduate but where they were traveling on the border of Pakistan.

They were persued and captured and you wouldn't believe the IED's they were trying to emplace. That same report also lead to the quarterback sack of over a hundred taliban and chechnian fighters during Operation mian shi shun.

We not only obtained intel on when these bombmakers graduate but where they were traveling on the border of Pakistan.

They were persued and captured and you wouldn't believe the IED's they were trying to emplace. That same report also lead to the quarterback sack of over a hundred taliban and chechnian fighters during Operation mian shi shun.


WHOSE ass did you pull THAT out of? LOL

Good one!

This intel was gathered from one of the Sickest bomb makers in Afghanistan of 05 06.

Facts about our techniques.
He did have a burlap sack pulled over his head
He was driven for hours around Highway 1 (only highway in afghanistan)
He was put in a kneeling position for a couple of minutes then transported back
He was put in a different room for the illusion that he had been transported somewhere else.

This technique was effective! Ask any 97E (normanclature for our Tac Humint tactical human intel for you civilians) This is textbook preparation pre interview.

Our current administration will not allow this technique because:
The use of burlap sacks are illegal now
The detainee will not be sleep deprived
No coercion is no longer warranted

Salad tosser What you libs do not understand is only the statements and interviews of the Chenny torture issue are being released. My comments do not provide enough specifics i.e. names exact locations, names of tac humint officials, and the "soak time" of this operation from current operations is capable of public release. I was one of the voice interception operators involved in locating said individuals

In the spring of 2005, the 173rd began its second deployment in three years to Afghanistan in support of Operation Enduring Freedom VI. The 1st Battalion, 508th Infantry Regiment spearheaded the deployment in February by deploying forces along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border in Regional Command East. The remainder of the Brigade deployed to Regional Command South, with all elements of the Brigade demonstrating unparalleled bravery fighting anti-coalition forces in the bloodiest spring since the original invasion in 2001. Sky Soldiers fought the Taliban and Al Qaeda in the Provinces of Helmand, Zabul and Kandahar. The Brigade excelled in all aspects of the deployment to include facilitating a peaceful parliamentary election process in the fall of 2005. Seventeen Sky Soldiers made the ultimate sacrifice in support of Operation Enduring Freedom VI. Five Sky Soldiers were awarded the Silver Star for their heroism, bravery and valor during this operation.
www.173abnbde.setaf.army.mil

My comments do not provide enough specifics


Meaning you are a bullshitter.

tosser, liberymonger is a bullshitter. and a tired one at that. and a bad speller at that. and a guy who has a bigtime foot fetish too. he likes to place soldiers feet under his armpits and then talk about how he knows everything and we know nothing. he is such a big time operator in the world of military intelligence that he barely had time to join this site two days ago (in between torturing a couple of al aqeda afghani kids with a riding crop and massaging some grunt's frozen feet) and immediately post around four hundred times a bunch of misspelled drivel saying how torture works, etc.

he obviously wants people to think he's some big bad military dude keeping our sorry "lib" punk asses safe from a bunch of stuff he can't talk about cuz, its well, REALLY REALLY highly classified, but this is the drudge retort and how can anyone take a dimwit like him seriously? especially when he calls people fag and bloke (which is english, innit? perhaps he's from britain) and misspells "intel"?

tosser, liberymonger is a bullshitter.


I know.

I am a "military brat" and I know how people in uniform talk.

Sure as hell not like this guy. LOL


he is such a big time operator in the world of military intelligence


More like a big time operator of a hot-dog stand.


especially when he calls people fag and bloke (which is english, innit? perhaps he's from britain) and misspells "intel"?


He's not from Britain. The British word for "fag" would be "poof".

Its amazing how much you desperately don't want to listen to someone who actually has experience to back up his comments...

It's laughable how you continue to cling onto your msnbc our pick a wing propaganda. Maybe if I cut and paste statements and harbor them as "Facts" the man that has seen the truth with his own eyes!

Oh p.s.
Bloke is my special nickname for woke...

I'll stop when one of you give me actual honest to god I've seen it with my own eyes facts.

If not continue to flick that MSNBC CNN drip so it goes through your veins faster..

And yes I do suck at spellin them hawd 2 sylbl wawds..

Sorry if you read any DOD document we write intel for short... but what do I know about that your the one that deployed there right????

Oh salad tosser. Fag means cigarette. Vacationed in Leeds when I was in the 173rd abn bde in Vicenza Italy.

libertymonger, tosser lives in pakistan. i have never claimed to be anything more than an 18 yr old kid. go dump your asinine posts on him. i'm sure he'll tear you a new asshole. that'll clear up your constipation so your verbal diarrhea doesn't continue to spill over here.

btw, giving people nicknames like "bloke" and "fagforth" won't make them believe your crap. it might make them more apt to believe that you are simply a retard, and if you don't care, then why the hell do you come here in the first place? at least i can say i come to have fun and screw around before i leave this weekend to have fun and screw around in college.

go post on little green footballs. they'll love you.

"Fag means cigarette. Vacationed in Leeds when I was in the 173rd abn bde in Vicenza Italy."

Gee, I think everyone above the age of fifteen knows that. Vacationed in Leeds, huh? Great place for a vacation LOL! nothing like west yorkshire for a nice romantic getaway!

I've been to leeds something like 8 times. my dad's a banker and he has to go there for a bunch of meetings so he dragged me with him a few times what a boring place.

Hillery is demanding tht these men be brought to her office for questioning.... She would like to remind them though that she drinks Bud Light!


Penis Check! Now God Damit!

Nerfherder Only been there once... A high school friend of mine has a mother that lives in Leeds. Was there in 04 when he went back to visit his mother...

The sites aren't bad. Kind of panoramic.

Corn exchange, Kirkstall Abbey, Victoria Quarter,
Pubs in King Edward Street...


libertymonger, tosser lives in pakistan. i have never claimed to be anything more than an 18 yr old kid. go dump your asinine posts on him. i'm sure he'll tear you a new asshole. that'll clear up your constipation so your verbal diarrhea doesn't continue to spill over here.


btw, giving people nicknames like "bloke" and "fagforth" won't make them believe your crap. it might make them more apt to believe that you are simply a retard, and if you don't care, then why the hell do you come here in the first place? at least i can say i come to have fun and screw around before i leave this weekend to have fun and screw around in college.


go post on little green footballs. they'll love you.

Oh how I miss talking to fagforth and please by all means keep your internet tough guy attitude where it belongs boy.

I could give a shit what any of you punks think?? Do you think I'm here to win the hearts and minds of you fucks???? You got to be kidding me... thats too bad for tosser then I'm sorry whats happening to his country...

Where is your bleeding hearts when you fuck with me spilling the same old lefty filled phrases.. get some new material..

I'm sure you lefties would love to tear someones asshole. Thanks for fueling my suspicions


My comments do not provide enough specifics

Meaning you are a bullshitter.

#75 | Posted by Tosser


tosser, liberymonger is a bullshitter.


I know.


I am a "military brat" and I know how people in uniform talk.


Sure as hell not like this guy. LOL

he is such a big time operator in the world of military intelligence

More like a big time operator of a hot-dog stand.

especially when he calls people fag and bloke (which is english, innit? perhaps he's from britain) and misspells "intel"?

He's not from Britain. The British word for "fag" would be "poof".


Okay salad tosser lets break this down for you..
When I say "my comments do not provide enough specifics" does in no way mean not enough intel.
If I had every last specific it would be considered classified and I'm thinking you little boys dont have the clearance for it. End result I still had all the information needed to state my case.

So being a military brat gives you all the knowledge needed to know a soldier.. Are you a soldier? No? Beat your fucking face then.. Listen dependant your no different than the moms in the PX walking around thinking they hold their hubby or daddys rank. Nope it still makes you a bitch!

I was jumping out of Airplanes when you boys were jumping out of school buses. You can read those reports all day long and it still doesn't hold light to what I've seen with my own eye's.

I was jumping out of Airplanes when you boys were jumping out of school buses. You can read those reports all day long and it still doesn't hold light to what I've seen with my own eye's.


I have never known a real soldier... American or otherwise... to shoot their mouth off like you do.

Fraudiyay. LOL

fagforth,salad tosser,bloke

Libmonger,Been here for 2 days,I call bullshit,fess up who were you before 9/1/9

Okay I'll spread my creds again. In now way shape or form am I going to give links to my real name and info. Honestly would you??? And as you DONT know most military documentation pose a huge personal security threat in regards to its personal information blocks.

Enlisted in the united states army Jan 7 1999 3 days before my birthday attending basic training in Fort Sill Oklahoma.

Attended Military intelligence school Fort Huachuca Arizona March of O9 Graduated with honors and recieved medical release for Airborne School

Attending a 4 week Airborne course fort benning GA 501st parachute infantry regiment.

Upon completion transitioned to Fort Bragg NC in my first unit as a soldier at 313th MI BN 82nd ABN Div Under the command of CPT Schmidt a west point grad. (if you research 313 is currently disbanded).
I went to several schools here. From Air Asssault, EMT, S.E.R.E., PLDC or primary leadership development course where upon completion I was promoted to Sergeant.
It was this unit I was deployed to Afghanistan with my Alpha Company brothers and Sisters we where in Operation Anoconda of March 2002. It was not to long after that Orders were cut for me to report to 102nd MI BN 2nd Inf DV in Uijongbu Korea for a brief stay under the Command of Cpt Allmacher. I conducted one rotation in south koreas war torn DMZ conduction Voice Interception.

My re enlistemnt came up and I wanted back in the Airborne. My only slot was the 173rd Airborne BDE. Vicenza Italy
I was there in May of 2003 and hit the ground running and I mean running. I was there for only 1 week and I was boarding an aircraft for Kirkuk Iraq. I recieved a team and we did everything and I mean everything there because the northern province in Kirkuk was undermanned and we even had to pick up the slack from the private sectors. We were doing Civil Affairs interviews with village elders, My team was in charge of internal and external securities at the government buildings of Dibis Iraq while still doing our Voice Interception jobs and aiding our TAC HUMINT counterparts.

We intercepted the chatter so we were always the ones to throw out the bullshit flag and review everything they said on tape. Like Chris Hanson to catch a predator but it was To catch a Terrorist.

We were back in Italy by ST Patricks day 04. My free time was always spent on the slopes. FRom Saas Fe Switzerland, St Anton in Innsbruck austria, Obreggan Germany, and Cortina Italy.

Our commander held up to his word when he said "Dont get too comfortable" We were in Kandahar afghanistan by 05 the creds on that deployment I've already posted. I wont even begin to talk about the brave men out there that payed the ultimate sacrifice because I dont even expect you to understand. I don't think you will ever understand how this administrations OPSEC has compromised Counter Intelligence and TAC HUMMINT info gathering. The harsh tactics were wrong I never said they were wright. But at the expense of some Libs wanting to bark up a TOP Seceret tree you even compromised the methods of intel gathering that even the far left could advocate.

Tosser I shoot my mouth off at people like you that think you can wrecklessly question a mans Integrity. If you don't believe what I say thats fine because I don't need bloggers to tell me who I am and what I've done. Take a momment outside the MSNBC CNN morphine drip and grasp some values alot of sub par soldiers became brave men living on Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, Personal Courage. Telling me I've only worked in a Hot Dog stand you have officially spit on every value I believe in. You have alot to learn.

Tosser your dad should of spanked you long ago because if anybody out here had the opportunity for values it was you...

Telling me I've only worked in a Hot Dog stand you have officially spit on every value I believe in.


OK. You are a meter-maid.

Did I spit on you again?

"If you don't believe what I say thats fine because I don't need bloggers to tell me who I am and what I've done"

That's why you have to spend a master's thesis quota of words to explain all your "credentials". Sure, right. Are you sure yer on your meds?

You're immature, its quite obvious-- that's coming from an 18 year old who draws dollar signs on people's lawns with his camaro.


Bullhorn..... Screech Pffftttttt ....


We would like to make an announcement from MRS.... Clinton........ (whispering) I know... Ill be carefull donlt worry Fog Hat.... (nervous whisperng) No.... Don't worry realy....

I have just been informed that MRS will not be making a statement and that We are authorized to read her statement to the press.......


The Secretery Of State would like to say that she has launched an investigation into the reports coming out of the Afgan Area in regard to Wild drinking parties and the like....


Had she known Bill was in Afghanistan she would have told him to behave... ( Angry Whispering) What?.... Hehe... yea I just thought I would throw tha.....(more Angry Whispering) Oh.... OK... Well I didn't know that.... (Wispering again)... Oh... I promis.... OK...


Bullhorn> Squeelll Screech ......... Anyway.... I have just been informed that that was a mistake..... president Clinton was not in the Afgan area... Anyway.... Mrs. Clinton goes on to say that there will be an investigation into the stories coming out of Afghanistan and that she will get to the bottom of it.... She goes on further to say that she can't understand the conduct of these individuals in regard to the drinking and the doing shots from body areas....


Also she would like to assure the world that from now on.... All Male personell at ALL US Embassies.... Will be keeping their Peckers in Her Pants! (Wild Angry Whispering) What...... (More Angry Whispering) Oh... I did? Sorry Fog Hat.... (Angry Whispering)... OH... OK I'll Take care of it......


Bullhorn.... Squeeeel Screeech Pffffftt....... Ah.... Correction Their Pants.....



That is all.......

"Telling me I've only worked in a Hot Dog stand you have officially spit on every value I believe in."


By "value" he means the Value meal options at
Wendy's. Don't spit on his bacon cheeseburger.

"Animal House in Afghanistan"

Hell of a job, Baracky!

Actually Tosser, the US military's archetype for what they would want to recruit would be a man like zombiehunter right now, or whatever the goatster was 25/30 years ago. In recent years - the standard for recruitment has really really dropped. Its to the point where they would gladly pick up the average Indian bootiyay recruit.

What I'm getting at is that this libertymonger guy is an obvious braindamaged member of the US forces.

They've been accepting people with criminal records.

I've heard that with the unemployment rate so high and no jobs--there is a waiting list for people to get into the military. ??


As for these assholes--some diligence and discipline are in order to fire these guys and keep the same kind of idiots from getting in.

Attending a 4 week Airborne course fort benning GA

Look son, I dont know who the hell you are, but airborne school is only two weeks at the most.

From Air Asssault, EMT, S.E.R.E., PLDC

I am calling bullshit on this at a number of levels, but especially PLDC which is now the Warrior Leaders Course. Why would they let a fucking intel idiot go to EMT? Got your terms wrong? I dont even think there is an EMT course at Bragg. What the fuck are you talking about?

And before you ask me, I am with the 82nd Airborne in afghanistan right now and MY credentials are verifed with many posters on this blog, so you better ask someone newbie.

I really dont give a fuck who you want to be in the anon of the internet, but dont go saying you are some high speed military guy unless you can truly back it up.

Fucking newbie....

It was 3 weeks when I went.

I dont even think there is an EMT course at Bragg. What the fuck are you talking about?


#100 | Posted by boaz at 2009-09-04 02:42 PM | Reply


There most certainly is. It's up where the guys with the "leaning shithouse" patch live/work.

What's up Chair,

Been missing you man....

This poop pond here in Kandahar stinks to high hell...

Not much. How much longer do you have over there?
Stay safe.

Dont know, Division was just extended, I hope they leave the BCT's alone.

We are getting things done, though the south where I am is catching hell. We are taking the fight to the enemy and not letting them rest. See ya later Chair...

BTW,

The Pakis work in the chow halls here. I keep going up to them and asking, "Tosser, is that you?" LOL....

One of these days, I am going to run into him....

Had to rib ya, Tosser...

"One of these days, I am going to run into him...."

or run into one of the IEDs he plants...

Boaz yes I am well aware that PLDC is now a Warrior Leaders Course for the extension of a class in reference to the Warrior Ethos. I'm sorry you didn't have the opportunity to achieve medical training beyhond CLS. Its a civilian operated course and I was granted the class from winning my units soldier of the month board many moons ago in 2000. Yes I did say 4 weeks because I was in the course in July where the heat cat made 5 look like a cool fall breeze. This of course was back when we had to run in our BDU's (now ACU's). Our ground week was typical.. Alot of cadets in the summer so you do push ups and flutter kicks alot more than an all active duty group. And to top it off Our Jump week was extended because of high winds on the DZ JUMPERS HIT IT!!! I still get people in the civilian world jumping into a prepare to land attitude.. Just wait till you get out... What unit are you in??? I've got some Boys who are intel analysts still with the 173rd who are still there..

When I was in Bragg our unit was right beside the Cherry shack on the corner of Ardenes and Los Banos I sure hope they tore that shit building down. They should of because it was in the works by 04 I think.

Talk to chairborne he was there during the shooting at towel courts

Do they still play cadence over the intercom down ardenes for pt?

Where at in Afghanistan??? I've Been pretty much everywhere from Balo, to Tarin Kowt, kandahar, all over the shamulzai province. In Balo (not for sure if my haji lingo is spelled correctly) we had to climb those two mountains there every morning to collect our daily chatter... Being an Intel puke is harder than you think.. All that gear does not ruck itself..


What's up Chair,


Been missing you man....


This poop pond here in Kandahar stinks to high hell...

BOAZ Is the laundry area still by that shit pond??

www.emtt.org heres a reference for that EMT school to clear your questions up.

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