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Monday, August 31, 2009

The Walt Disney Co. said Monday it is buying Marvel Entertainment Inc. for $4 billion in cash and stock, bringing characters like Iron Man and Spider-Man into the family of Mickey Mouse and WALL-E.

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What does this do to Universal's theme park, the Marvel land, the Hulk and Spiderman rides, etc?

Probably means Iron Man will act a little more goofy.

-Probably means Iron Man will act a little more goofy.

For 4 billion dollars he'll wear Tinkerbell's outfit.....

I liked the Ironman movie, but I was never that into the comics, so I didn't have that much baggage.

I've been reading comics all my life. Marvel was one of my favorites. In my early teens, I switched to politics and religion.

Marvel's characters existed in a world where heroes were flawed and villains could have noble motives and where innocent people died. I am not sure Disney will be able to balance that with their company mission. The Muppets even lost their edge when Disney bought them and they had almost no edge to start with. I fear for Marvel's future.

i'm glad our disney days are over - we have in our movie vault at least 400 productions and most are protected so you cannot move them from vhs to dvd so the kidz will have to fight over them when they leave home!

we will keep "the brave little toaster" for memory's sake as it was our son's first disney movie and by the age of three he was drawing all the characters.

Well, looks like you'll have to make up NEW imaginary characters.

Marvel's characters existed in a world where heroes were flawed and villains could have noble motives and where innocent people died. I am not sure Disney will be able to balance that with their company mission. The Muppets even lost their edge when Disney bought them and they had almost no edge to start with. I fear for Marvel's future.
#6 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-08-31 11:10 AM

Disney will utterly destroy Marvel on it's race to the bottom dollar.

Michael Eisner did such a number that there is no return.

Hulk is mad

The madder Hulk gets

The stronger Hulk gets

Where is Matterhorn???

Puny humans and their bobsleds!

They've already planned a Hulk-Snow White crossover series.

Won't give you too much of a spoiler but let's just say that every conceivable world record with regards to dwarf tossing is utterly destroyed.....

Thats one expensive Comic Book habit.....

Watch Disney fuck up Marvel now..1st Pixar and now this..

Probably means Iron Man will act a little more goofy.

I heard Mickey beat the crap out of Minnie because he overheard somebody say she was fucking goofy.

reading comic books is for losers and is a complete waste of time. the only cool stuff disney ever did was the Winnie the Pooh heffalumps and woozles interlude and that kid changing into a donkey in pinocchio.

#15 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2009-08-31 05:45 PM | Reply | Flag: this, from a user with a star wars reference as his handle

OR

#15 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2009-08-31 05:45 PM | Reply | Flag: probably watches NASCAR's all-day left turning and thinks that's entertainment

reading comic books is for losers and is a complete waste of time. the only cool stuff disney ever did was the Winnie the Pooh heffalumps and woozles interlude and that kid changing into a donkey in pinocchio.
#15 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2009-08-31 05:45 PM

Wow, what an insanely stupid remark coming from a sci-fi geek!

Why don't you try something slightly more challenging than Iron Man, like Alan Moores' Promethea? (It's DC, but who really cares?)

New ideal for their first movie;

Snow White and the Seven Kickasses;

Cinderella, who is dressed like angi jolie in tomb raider (you know what i'm talking about), is walking along in all her blonde virgin-ness, when suddenly, that wimp Captain America lands and says, 'heeyyyaaa, baby, wanna fuck'?

All of the sudden, the 7 kickasses (spiderman, wolverine, magneto, etc...) comes up and breaks Captain America down into his individual atoms.

Then Iron Man takes Cinderella home and shows her his heat seeking moisture probe attachment.

finally a 'feel-food' scene, the Hulk is really pissed, I mean super pissed, because, 1)iron man always gets the chicks, 2)well, let's just say that when you expand in size, everything expands proportionally. That's no good because if you marry a women you are gonna be pissed sometime....

Anyway he's really pissed and he grabs up goofy, who says 'whoa-oooo-ooooooooo, what's up, heeeyyyyeeyyyyyyy' and slings him all the way around the world. then peter pan pokes hulk in the eye. The hulk can't catch peter pan and he accidentally knocks himself out. We fade to black with a new lesbian song by veronica and betty.

Which teaches us the moral disney lesson; chicks dig nerds.

Legio, when did Disney fuck up Pixar? Um... Cars and Wall-E all post-Disney purchase. Seems to me Mr. Lasseter kept his powers. Okay, so neither one is The Incredibles, but I'm thinking that was post-buyout too.

this sucks.

Disney has no idea how to manage content that isnt for 6 year old girls.

Cars sucked balls, though Wall-E was adorable.

But Yes, there is absolutely Nothing Disney could do to improve on Stan Lee. Even $4B could't transplant his brain into the body of a 20-year-old, and that's literally the only way Disney could conceivably improve that man's life, art, or career.

By spending $4B on the property, Disney has made it clear they have no intention of leaving the properties alone. Since they are incapable of improving them, they will by process of elimination fuck them up royally.

RE: #21 - "Since they are incapable of improving them, they will by process of elimination fuck them up royally."

the worst part is that no studio yet can seem to just leave the stories as they are in the transition to the big screen. there's always elements that are changed drastically for the films vs. the original material. sometimes this can work out pleasantly, such as some of the changes in 'the crow' or 'v for vendetta' but most of the time it goes horribly, horribly wrong, like in 'tank girl' or dare-i-say 'teenage mutant ninja turtles.'
but because it's disney we're talking about (and this comment seems to have been made already a few times) the comics may likely end up being dumbed down for 9-yr old ADD-addled mass consumption, complete with taiwanese-made t-shirt and plush doll lines to hawk at their stores.

WALL-E was wonderful, but i suspect it's because a few of the newer higher-ups DO have a good sense of when to just get the fuck out of the filmmakers' ways. let's hope they use that more often.

let's wait and see.

Cars sucked balls? Wow, I guess we didn't see the same movie. Oh, well--no accounting for taste, right? Wall-E was adorable--yes, and I hope more than that. Adorable is good for kittens, not so much for movies. So what's your take on The Incredibles?

FUCK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOO!

Legio, when did Disney fuck up Pixar? Um... Cars and Wall-E all post-Disney purchase. Seems to me Mr. Lasseter kept his powers. Okay, so neither one is The Incredibles, but I'm thinking that was post-buyout too.

#19 | Posted by pragmatist

I just know disney sanitizes everything for the masses instead of allowing creativity to go where it may.

Cars sucked.

Wall-E was good.

The incredibles were Pre-disney and that was truely edgy and good. I didn't notice any skeletons and dead people post disney acquisition like in the incredibles (gaser-beam)

By spending $4B on the property, Disney has made it clear they have no intention of leaving the properties alone.

#21 | Posted by valis at 2009-08-31 08:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

$4 billion is chump change. They'll get that back from two more Spiderman movies, and make another $5 billion on merchandising -- everything from backpacks to shoes to video games.

The Incredibles was brilliant, no doubt. Maybe it was just the mood when I saw it, but Cars seemed so boring and trite I had a hard time sitting through it -a true swing and a miss.

I was never a hard core comics junkie, but there are things common in Stan Lee's world that just don't work in the Disney world. If Disney sanitizes those elements, they'll destroy that property.

Legio, what sucked about Cars? I dig that movie--sure it's old-fashioned and a bit sentimental, but it's damned entertaining. (There's a slow part in every Pixar movie, and it's an overlong slow part in this one.)

What do you mean about skeletons and dead people? Have there been Pixar movies that needed those elements?

And Valis, I wouldn't worry about things that don't work in the Disney world. Miramax still makes some pretty edgy stuff. Disney has some holdings that do gore and sex and drugs. This doesn't worry me particularly; it just doesn't sit right. (And anyway, the really great comic movies have been DC titles--the last two Bat-movies...)

"Watch Disney fuck up Marvel now..."

You now what? I say let them have it. Marvel has already destroyed and basterdized their flagship titles. Did anyone on the Drudge here read the "Civil War" series that happened after "World War Hulk" that lead the murder and Rebirth of Cap? It was fucking god awefull. I didnt even bother with "Secret Invasion". Marvel has become pure pinko trash propaganda and I for one wish it a quick death at the hads of the Disney Co. I love Spider Man, Hulk, and X-men. Its a cryin shame what Joe Q has done to half of these properties. I'll stick with DC and Image.

In print, couldn't stand any of the American comics and read all the overseas works: Tintin, Asterix, Luck Luke and whole bunch more.

On film, different story, as American super hero genre works very well with me. Same goes for Disney and Pixar productions. My three best are Lion King, Finding Nemo and the incredible Ratatouille.

Crisis

Spud used to catch hell fer spending too much money on comic books.

Never spent 4 Billion though.

Disney, you are so grounded!

LOL.

Is this a good fit?

Did they spend too much?

Will the Marvel Universe get Disneyfied?

Meh, Spud finds he's not too concerned over it.

More a fan of the indy and undeground comix guys.

Tintin, Asterix, Luck Luke

Luff the first two. Don't know the third.

Be Well.

I can't understand why people like Disney crap. I was a Warner Bros. kid. I'll take Bugs Bunny over Disney any day.

You now what? I say let them have it. Marvel has already destroyed and basterdized their flagship titles. Did anyone on the Drudge here read the "Civil War" series that happened after "World War Hulk" that lead the murder and Rebirth of Cap? It was fucking god awefull. I didnt even bother with "Secret Invasion". Marvel has become pure pinko trash propaganda and I for one wish it a quick death at the hads of the Disney Co. I love Spider Man, Hulk, and X-men. Its a cryin shame what Joe Q has done to half of these properties. I'll stick with DC and Image.

#29 | Posted by GotTruth at 2009-09-01 08:31 AM | Reply | Flag: HAS NEVER KISSED A GIRL

Marvel has taken risks and not all worked. Secret Wars II and the New Universe comes to mind, but I would think DC would absorb better into the Disney world than Marvel. For one thing, DC has a "heroes don't kill" policy in place that Marvel has never seen the point of. Marvel I always saw as the more adult comic company which is why DC needed to make Vertigo comics to compete.

The big question I see this raising is: how will this effect Universal Studios Theme Park and rides such as the Hulk and Spiderman?

#33 is just jelous because he only kisses "Girlz"

Plus, man, have you ever been to a Comic-Con International in San Diego? MAn o MAN, the costumes them ladies wear at the Costume ball and then through the 4 days of events. Best days of my life every year!

Re: #9...Damn straight, Robot...Eisner is phreakin' Satan with a red silk power tie. The incessant, relentless branding. To the point where if you drive down Harbor Boulevard, which runs directly by the original front entrance to the park, you'd swear that you were driving IN the park. The lamps, the signage...everything is manicured and packaged right down to the logos on the trash cans. It's the "Disnification" of America...coming to a town near you.

Iron Man does not wear mouse ears.

I stopped reading Marvel Comics when Jack Kirby left.

Jeez, Snark, you must be old. : )

Kirby was awesome in his way.

Oh, and Stan Lee is the Bill Gates of comic-dom: a brilliant showman and a master at taking credit for other people's work. Well, so the story goes. Poor Steve Ditko.

Largely, I prefer DC. Though I do love Spider-Man and the X-Men.

Turns out any studio currently making movies based on Marvel charcters can continue to do so without Disney so long as they don't stop. That means Sony still owns Spiderman through Spiderman 6 and Fox still owns Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer and they are rushing the next movie to keep it.

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