Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Saturday, August 29, 2009

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy was laid to rest alongside slain brothers John and Robert at Arlington National Cemetery on Saturday evening. Crowds lined the streets of two cities on a day that marked the end of a political era -- outside Kennedy's funeral in Boston, and later in the day in Washington. With flags over the Capitol flying at half-staff, his hearse stopped outside the Senate he served for 47 years.

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American legend.
American icon.
American hero.

American Royalty.

Be Well.

If you like him or not.. R.I.P Sen. Kennedy. I happen to like the man.

Seems like they're just enabling the worms to get intoxicated.

American Royalty.

Exactly what the founding fathers did not want

Well, Ed Kennedy would be a better choice than David and Victoria Beckham and there was real push for "Royalty" status there.

I'm glad that idea pretty much imploded.

I'd really like to know the truth about the whole Kennedy saga, but I somehow doubt I ever will.

I'd really like to know the truth about the whole Kennedy saga,

I'm not so sure about that,hell I don't want to know the whole saga about my family.

Man of his word,reached across the aisle,fought for what he beleived in.That's what the republicans who worked with him are saying.Good enough for me.

I have to say.

Ted Kennedy was a 'lion' for his cause. For all those who are irresponsible. I call them useless. Not a lion but a RAT.

In my house we cull rats.

His cause was not my cause. His cause was for something he did not even understand. Growing up rich and killing woman. That is not my cause.

I work hard for every dollar that goes through this family so no one can say we are from any reich. You lefties can say so but that does not bother me.

I am ashamed Ted Kennedy is in Arlington cemetery and this is an INSULT to all who have died.

I am ashamed Ted Kennedy is in Arlington cemetery and this is an INSULT to all who have died.

So why is he buried there?

I'm sure there are criteria that he met?

Just asking...?

Wurst,He won't be bothering you anymore.

Come to think of it, there are m(b)ilions of people who have died that could care less...

My Grandpa George received two purple hearts during WWII. One bullet to the gut and another to the ass. He went on to raise a productive family that went on to produce other productive families.

Long after this I worry about insurmountable debt that I must pass to my children that they will pass to theirs long after my grandfather fought for our 'freedom.'

Ted Kennedy has no place in Arlington. This is an insult.

I am ashamed Ted Kennedy is in Arlington cemetery and this is an INSULT to all who have died. #7 | Posted by wurster

Really, to all who have died? So all the little kids who have starved to death in Africa were insulted by this U.S. Senator's burial next to his Senator brother and President brother? After all, they died, and meet your criteria to be insulted. Or maybe you just made an incoherent post?

"Long after this I worry about insurmountable debt that I must pass to my children that they will pass to theirs long after my grandfather fought for our 'freedom.'"

And like most of the opposition you newly discovered your fear of national debt after your elected presidents contributed greatly to that debt.
Me thinks your fear of debt is based solely on who is in the presidency and that if it were still Bush you would still be stupidly silent.

Speaking of Africans.

Bush did quite a bit for them.

www.gaurdian.uk

Did Teddy ever serve in the military? I am guessing a person doesn't have to be a military vet to be burried in Arlington then.

Never mind. I guess he did serve a couple of years in the military.

Nice to see that the Hero of Chappaquiddick has finally had his alcohol bloated corpse dumped in a hole to rot. Too bad it was 41 years too late.

And here's my tribute to all DR's rightard POS' that have bashed Ted Kennedy posthumously:

Funny how you misanthropists bleed your little melodramatic hearts over Mary Jo, yet you support warmonger neocons that attack foreign countries with no viable justification, which eventually leads to the death of thousands and perhaps even millions of people. Yes, people, you assholes, even though your radio masters have successfully brainwashed you to dehumanize people of different cultures, religions, etc. Where are your bleeding hearts for the women, children, and elderly that have lost their lives in Iraq, you vile hypocrites? Reality is you don't deserve to lick Ted's rigor-mortis, formaldehyde-filled nutsack.

And that means you, Redboy...

Danni

I don't play partisan. Bush was bad. Your beloved Obama is bad. They're all fucking us.

You think I don't like our current President because I liked our last. For this you are mistaken and as such we as a country will never realize true solution.

Left - Right.

Divide and Conquer.

The oldest trick in the book.

Bye Bye Teddy, have fun in hell.

Newyawker - I was being kind. Want to know how I really feel about him?

Yawk can stand up for the 'liberal lion' all he wants. The man was a POS. Made is living exploiting the poor. A poverty pimp.

Living in the shadow of his brethren.

kennedy vs the fed

JFK was a great man and fed beat him.

Ted, your 'lion', did not pursue the true cause of poverty in our nation. He was a poverty pimp.

Lion indeed.

"For this you are mistaken and as such we as a country will never realize true solution."

I will thank God if we never realize what you would call "true solution." Lord save me from the lunatics of this world. Amen.

I thought Arlington Cemetary was for war heros not cowardly civilian murderers.

And by the way YAWK. Why don't they teach you people to say R in school? It is not a difficult consonant.

Danni.

True solution means all of us recognizing our government is corrupt. Left AND right.

If you believe my 'true solution' is killing people then just get out of the way and shut the fuck up.

The same folks who still hate Teddy also hate many of us because of our sexualtiy, our skin color, our religion. They may deny it but we know that it is still true. REally, their attacks haven't changed much in forty years. Their kind will always be with us, fortunately the country is not limited by the narrowness of their minds.

#31 | Posted by danni at 2009-08-29 11:12 PM | Reply | Flag: Yawn.

The first time I was in the Marines I was stationed at Henderson Hall. There was just a sidewalk and a low stone wall separating my barracks from Arlington Cemetery and my window overlooked the rows of headstones. It was a tiny base nearly overwhelmed by the presence of the huge cemetery. There were a bunch of us young enlisted guys working at MCHQ right next door. The cemetery just became a part of your overall outlook on life, you had no choice and no chance to ignore it. We used to cut thru the cemetery and walk to Georgetown. This guy named some real common Irish name like Patrick Riley said he fell asleep leaning against a headstone when walking back drunk thru the cemetery and when he woke up in the morning he checked the name on that headstone and it was Patrick Riley. He went back later and proved it to some of the guys.

The place is big enough to hold Ted without complaints.

Danni

50 years ago the people you speak of were Democrats.

Here is the criteria to be met to be qualified for burial at Arlington Cemetery - I personally qualify, I do not see where Sen Kennedy does. Appears to be just one of many abuses by a democrat administration.

www.arlingtoncemetery.org

Maybe when we get back in power we can re-bury the guy where he belongs.

Danni, you are the most narrow minded person on this blog, you always have been.

You may as well not even post, you only regurgitate left wing talking points, you have no thoughts of your own.

You are the least tolerant person I have ever read, you have no room for anything outside your narrow band of hard left dogma.

Wow, so much animosity for an man none of these anonymous blow hard e-mouths knew. Every man, no matter his or her political beliefs or mistakes deserves this kind of treatment after they are dead.

A dead man has no defense. He has no future to amend his worst mistakes. He has no lawyer to sue for slander. He has only his legacy. In the end it's not his mistakes and crimes that make a man, it's what he did to atone with his god before he passed on. Kennedy, for all his bad deeds did not cast the die that put him in in his station in life, but he did his best to try and help the common man and fight the devil within. For that he deserves at least and end to mindless heckling from people no less perfect then himself.

#37 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-08-29 11:39 PM | Reply | Flag: cunt

Flag: cunt

#39 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Let's leave your mother pod out of this, Smoke Stack.....

#40 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-08-30 12:03 AM | Reply | Flag dumb cunt

Wurster -

Ted Kennedy has no place in Arlington. This is an insult.

I can understand your feelings (especially since Edward Kennedy was never in the military) but it is allowed for for him to be buried at Arlington. In fact, if you take a look at these two links I'm going to provide you, you'll probably be surprised at all those who are allowed burial there.

For this link, scroll a little more than half way down to the section called "Notable Burials"

Notable Civilians Buried at Arlington National Cemetery

This next link gives a wealth of info on Arlington National Cemetery. My uncle is buried there. He had been killed in WW II. But I've never been to see Arlington. It's something I would really enjoy doing one day.

Arlington National Cemetery

We are going to try this again, for you Ignorant BASTARDS, that won't take the week off an give this good man the send off that he deserved. For those of you who are outraged at the incident with Mary Jo, where was that same ourtage when Ronald Reagan sent 275 Marines to thier Death in Beruit, than he cut an ran in the face of Terriorist???

Kennedy's indescrestion cause one precious life Reagans cause Thousands to die, where waS YOUR OUTRAGE OVER THAT INCIDENT????? You are Pathatic Hyprocrits an no one of any common sense will give you insults much credence.

You Right Wing Assholes an Your Hero Ronald Reagan, couldn't hold Ted Kennedys Jock Strap, you jock sniffing Fucks are truly pathatic......

Ok Bob, it's a do-el, your choice of weapons, car antennas, smokestacks, or bunker Cheney's.....

I'll meet you on the smoggy side of the moon at high noon.....

Ted Kennedy was a true American hero. Flawed, as we all are, he stood against hate directed at him for over 40 years. He was more hated than Hitler by many Americans, as is evident by the posts on this thread. Such hatred can only lead to the death of the American nation. This is two countries.

#44 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-08-30 12:12 AM | Reply | Flag dumb cunt

Buh Bye Teddy, you won't be missed.

I'm wondering he will spend his time in hell as one of the millions of fetuses he helped abort, getting ripped apart and flushed down a toilet, or drowning day after day as Mary Joe watches and does nothing from the shore, just like Teddy did......

A perfect man, NO...!!! but, I doubt any on here are, in every way... to give 47+ years to the Senate and a lifetime to service for a better way of life for many, he deserves a place in Arlington.. before you begin to throw stones, look at his list of accomplishments and see how many affect your life, your family's life and of those you admire and love as friends, etc...
I do not think that he excused lightly any of his wayward decisions of personal life as he matured through the years and, if anyone thinks that being in the public eye your entire life is easy, jump aboard..!! I doubt that any of the critical people on this blog would endure, nor even contribute a meer 'puff of wind' compared to him..
RIP, "Teddy", you have made the lives of many a much better way..."Thanks for your service"..
And, to the "Pope"...he made much more of a contribution to the betterment of life than you have shown in your tenure...!!!

Let his corpse rot; there is nothing else.

MSGT

Here is the criteria to be met to be qualified for burial at Arlington Cemetery - I personally qualify, I do not see where Sen Kennedy does. Appears to be just one of many abuses by a democrat administration.

www.arlingtoncemetery.org


I did a little research for you as to why Edward Kennedy was given permission for burial at Arlington. This section I found in an article in "The Marine Corps. Times" will probably answer your question.

"Marine Corps.Times"

...A senior defense official said the Kennedy family approached the Army some time ago to explore the possibility of burying the senator at Arlington, the nation's most celebrated burial ground of fallen military and the resting place of astronauts, Supreme Court justices and other giants in American history.

The most probable place would be near the grave of his brother, Robert, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the family had not yet announced the arrangements.

Kennedy is eligible for burial at Arlington by virtue of his service in Congress as well as his two years in the Army, 1951 to 1953. He was a private first class and served in the military police at Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe, then located in Paris and now in Belgium....


Flag dumb cunt
#46 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-08-30 12:18 AM | Reply | Flag:Dumber-er cunt

I'm wondering he will spend his time in hell as one of the millions of fetuses he helped abort, getting ripped apart and flushed down a toilet, or drowning day after day as Mary Joe watches and does nothing from the shore, just like Teddy did......

He didn't murder Mary Jo,it was afucking accident.You people act as if you were eye witnesses.Every knows so much.

everyone knows so much,I meant.
Teddy was catholic.People on the DR seem to throw abortion around to fit their need for their argument

Bruce, were you there? Did you see his explanation?

Do you know the time line and full story of what happened?

It sounds like you haven't.

Ted was drunk, he was taking Mary Joe off to have sex with, he was so hammered he drove off the road at the bridge and into the river (large stream) and he got out. He knew he was hammered and he ran because he knew he was fucked.

He went into to town and got a hotel room and called his father, who called the highest paid lawyers in the world and then he went to bed.

The next day with his lawyers in tow, he called the police and reported it. Then he made a series of bizarre rambling statments that made no sense. He said the river was flowing too hard for him to rescue her, (Teddy was an accomplished swimmer) when the photos of the scene show the water was completely stagnant and only about 10 feet deep.

Teddy was guilty of vehicular manslaughter and he should have fessed up to what he did, instead he left a woman to die and lied about it his entire life.

That was just one part of the low life he lead.

Just because he died, doesn't mean I'm going to let the record be rewritten and fantasy take the place of reality.

Kennedy was no hero, he was a coward and a liar.

Period.

I'm not saying he didn't make some fucked up decisions.You don't know he wanted to fuck her.I just said it wasn't murder,manslaughter you may have a point.To throw in the abortion thing makes me think you don't have a real arguement even if you do have one

Teddy was one of the driving forces in the pro-abortion since day 1.

What are you talking about Bruce, are you refuting that?

Teddy lived off his father and brothers 'legacy', without the phony charade built around his family, Teddy would have been just another fat and drunken schlump.

I don't know he wanted to fuck her?!?!?!

They left the party and headed for his beach house, she left her purse and coat at the party.....

What do you think they were going to do, go fishing at midnight?

War Nog!

"Teddy was guilty of vehicular manslaughter and he should have fessed up to what he did, instead he left a woman to die and lied about it his entire life.
That was just one part of the low life he lead. Just because he died, doesn't mean I'm going to let the record be rewritten and fantasy take the place of reality."

You're absolutely right about the darkest parts of his life.

And you're right, we wouldn't want fantasy to take the place of reality.

So...regarding reality...can you at least admit his accomplishments? For example, did you ever vote before you turned 21? Do you believe disabled people should have the same opportunities as able-bodied people? Have you, or anyone you've known, ever gone on COBRA?

I'm a disabled vet, dumbass.

And I have voted since I was 18, what was your empty point supposed to be?

OK Zeit,I agree its a "Fishy" story,but I wasn't there

www.nationalreview.com

In case you have forgotten or never knew the details, Ted and five of his pals and six women known as the "Boiler Room Girls" who had worked in Bobby Kennedy's presidential campaign, cut short by his assassination the year before, were weekending together. Afterward, the men claimed it was just a couple of days of innocent fun to thank the girls for their help, though the six guys were all married but partying without their wives, and the young women were all single. One of the "Boiler Room Girls" is now big-time New York literary agent Esther Newberg, who was Mary Jo's roommate for the weekend. Like everyone involved in the incident, Esther remains close-mouthed about what occurred.

What everyone testified at the time was that Kennedy and Mary Jo left the party before midnight. Kennedy said he was driving her back to the ferry to Edgartown, and took a wrong turn, though he was very familiar with the roads on the island. His car toppled off a narrow wooden-planked bridge, a bridge that is in the opposite direction to the road that led to the ferry but is on the way to the beach. The car landed upside-down in eight feet of water and, Kennedy claimed that after escaping, he tried unsuccessfully to rescue Mary Jo. He then staggered back to the party, called out his cousin Joe Gargan and his pal Paul Markham, to return to the scene. What he didn't do, inexplicably, was seek help in a lighted house only yards from the bridge or use the fire-alarm phone at a fire station he passed on the way back to the party.

Right from the start, the reporters who arrived at the scene were skeptical of his story, skeptical even of how he claimed he got back to Edgartown that night. Markham and Gargan said when they drove to the ferry landing the ferry had stopped running by then Kennedy took them by surprise by jumping in the water, and swimming across the channel towards Edgartown. They assumed, they said, he would report the accident that night to the police. Instead Kennedy went back to his hotel, ostensibly to change his clothes but instead, went downstairs to complain about a noisy party that was going on.

The next morning Markham and Gargan were waiting for Kennedy when he arrived at 9 A.M. on the first ferry. The ferry operator said Kennedy appeared to be in a jovial mood, but probably only until he was told that his car had been found. Only then did Kennedy return and report the accident.

(What this story leaves out is brave Teddy , the liberal lion, lawyering up that night)

www.youtube.com

Watch this Bruce and see if you believe 'brave Teddy'.

"what was your empty point supposed to be?"
"I'm a disabled vet"

Then Ted Kennedy went to bat for you. He introduced the AWDA.

"And I have voted since I was 18"

Because Ted Kennedy, among others, championed that law.

He certainly wasn't perfect, but he introduced and/or championed ideas from which we all benefit.

Teddy Kennedy didn't do jack shit for me.

You can hero worship brave Teddy all you want, I could care less.

But I save my praise for those who deserve it.

"I agree its a "Fishy" story,but I wasn't there"

Only a bought-off town would believe Teddy's version of events.

No woman leaves her purse and keys at a party if she believes she's being driven home. And Teddy wouldn't have taken the chauffeur's keys without reason. He was eating a sandwich?!? Puh-leaze....

Did you see Nog fuck up Randy?

OK,Iwatched the video.
Strong current in a murky pond???
Anyway he's dead now.

Like I say to my divorced buddies"she/he must have had some redeemable Qualities"

"Teddy Kennedy didn't do jack shit for me"

That's pretense. Damn him all you want for all his wrongs, but pretending he did nothing which benefits you isn't fair.

"You can hero worship brave Teddy all you want"

I don't at all. I skipped all the fawning this week, wanting no part of it. But I'm not about to deny the impact he's had on a lot of people, and a lot of it for the good.

Teddy Kennedy didn't do jack shit for me.

No one did jack shit for you; you are a self-made whiner.

Didn't see it JA, I tried to find a website that carried a free feed and I got infected with a virus.

I figured Nog would whoop Randy, hell Couture is 46 years old, he older then Michael Jordan for god sakes.

Teddy was one of the driving forces in the pro-abortion since day 1.

Nobody is pro-abortion

I wonder how Boyds eight little feet manage to escape the sticky substance on the floor of his roach motel.

Bruce, you can believe whatever you want to.

REX-
re: without the phony charade built around his family, Teddy would have been just another fat and drunken schlump.

Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-08-30 12:52 AM

Like you?

Rex-
The music you post is full of anger and bile and jealousy. You are a nihilist, and the pettiness of it is palpable. At first I thought you were a teenager, but you're not. You are a fully grown man with a bitterness that you nurse as a woman nurses an infant.

You need it.

Didn't see it JA, I tried to find a website that carried a free feed and I got infected with a virus.

I figured Nog would whoop Randy, hell Couture is 46 years old, he older then Michael Jordan for god sakes.

#72 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

I went to a wing place that shows the fights.

www.mma-tv.net shows all the fights you can watch it now the replay.

buffalowildwings.com

is where I watch the UFC.

R.I.P Senator Kennedy. You truly believed in the axiom "Much has been given and much is expected" and bettered the lives of millions of Americans. The countless stories told over the weekend of someone so powerful who tirelessly gave of his time to be a voice for those without one.

www.mma-tv.net shows all the fights you can watch it now the replay.

#78 | Posted by jackass at 2009-08-30 01:36 AM

I want to see you and Tosser duke it out in the ring.

May the best man win!

Teddy Kennedy didn't do jack shit for me.

He voted for the people that elected him for 4+ decades and ran for office every 4 years and in the most prestigious senate in history. Pork barrel politics is the lubrication that keeps the money flowing. Ask any Governor. Go ahead bitch about it. In America it is still your right to bitch, but that's the way it works.

If you lived in Massachusetts Ted Kennedy accomplished some heavy shit thanks to his family and friends. Voting in the US senate is a great accomplishment in it's self.

If you live any where else he was part of a legacy of congressmen and senators that have all helped to keep Americans free to criticize just about anyone but especially public figures.

You are free to hate him or honor his service. His failures and tragedy's are part of the Kennedy baggage that they all must all drag onto their private jets for decades to come.

Wurster

Sorry, my earlier post (#43) to you was in error when I said Edward Kennedy had not been in the military. See the following post I wrote to MSGT where that statement had been corrected.

Kennedy is eligible for burial at Arlington by virtue of his service in Congress as well as his two years in the Army, 1951 to 1953. He was a private first class and served in the military police at Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe, then located in Paris and now in Belgium....

#50 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-08-30 12:31 AM

ran for office every 4 years

6 years

Some of you people are completely sick!!! I stopped reading this thread at about 15 or so. Was he a perfect man, hell no! Did he try to stand up for the little guy, I think so! He had many warts, but I'm sure going to say a prayer for Sen. Kennedy tonight! If you don't like that fact.....I pity you.

I wish they had buried the three brothers closer together. I hate having to cut my pee stream mid-bladder to walk from grave to grave.

Hahahahahaha

So much for Camelrot

I want to see you and Tosser duke it out in the ring.

May the best man win!

#81 | Posted by CalifChris

so do I

ran for office every 4 years

6 years

I stand corrected. It's not the first time or the last.

An insult to the true heros there. Bury him at sea in an Oldsmobile.

GreatAmerican

Your name is an insult to all Americans--you are a hater, and not worthy of citizenship. Kennedy was a great man, and added to society and the future. When you die, all that could be said you added to the planet was a huge pile of shit.

Don't insult Oldsmobile. Cars don't kill people. Self-absorbed rich, law school cheating, socialist bum senators kill people. Use him for crabbing bait off the old bridge perhaps.
And buffalochip calling this boob a "great man" obviously knows little or nothing about Ted.

You are welcome to join Toad Kennedy, Buffalo Shit....

Your name is an insult to all Americans--you are a hater, and not worthy of citizenship.

I can't speak for for allamerican, but my guess is that unlike you, he does not want the United States to fall. I'll bet he also respects and defends the Constitution, something you have admitted you do not. I'll also bet that he faces his political adversaries instead of cowardly wishing they would just go away.

HA! Talk about not worthy of citizenship in my country -- that would be you, bOoB. Enjoy all the losers in bOoBistan. LOL

The whole Kennedy clan was a bunch of turds whose legacy was built by a rum runner and stock manipulator.

Teddy lived off the public teat his whole life because of some bizarre camelot fable.

The truth is, the Kennedys were a bunch of drunken, skirt chasing, criminals who bilked a life of royalty out of America.

bOoBistan. LOL

Posted by goatman

Yep - ya know, he is an insult to the memory of Buffalo Bob (Smith) and Howdy Doody.....lol

the Kennedys were a bunch of drunken, skirt chasing, criminals who bilked a life of royalty out of America.

#96 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

No different than the Bush clan.

The whole Bush clan was a bunch of turds whose legacy was built by Hitler and Bin Laden enablers.

The truth is, Chimpy is a drunken war criminal that's married to a murdering cunt.

#96 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

FTFY

Any proof any of the Bush's were drunks or drug addicts outside of GW?

IE. Prescott, George the elder, Jeb, or any other?

On the other hand, John Kennedy, Robert, Teddy, John Jr, Caroline, Patrick, etc, etc, all are or were drunken drug addicts.

And of course, Joe sr. was a rum runner.

brasschecktv.com

Nazis, crooks and murderers

George Bush Sr. may have had a much more interesting past that what appears in his official bio.

His father Prescott Bush, banker to the Nazis and grandfather of George W. Bush, sponsored the rise of an obscure California right-wing politician who socialized extensively with Nazi sympathizers: Richard M. Nixon.

Richard Nixon hired a "gofer" to assist him with his campaigning and other matters: Mob-connected Jack Ruby who later moved to Dallas.

Just days after the Kennedy assassination, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover pointedly mentioned "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency" in a memo discussing the reaction of right-wing Cubans to the assassination. One of the boats used in the infamous Bay of Pigs invasion were coincidentally named "Barbara" (the name of Bush's wife) and the operation itself was called "Zapata" the name of Bush Sr's oil company with rigs just off the north coast of Cuba.

Richard Nixon and George Bush are distinguished as being among the only people in America who later claimed they could not remember where they were the day Kennedy was assassinated.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg...

Real American history. The kind people get killed for talking about.

Nice to see that the Hero of Chappaquiddick has finally had his alcohol bloated corpse dumped in a hole to rot. Too bad it was 41 years too late.

It's also a shame that Gannon's cum dumpster didn't die from leukemia as a youngster instead of his sister.

hnn.us

Arriving at London in early 1938, newly-appointed U.S. Ambassador Joseph P. Kennedy took up quickly with another transplanted American. Viscountess Nancy Witcher Langhorne Astor assured Kennedy early in their friendship that he should not be put off by her pronounced and proud anti-Catholicism.

"I'm glad you are smart enough not to take my [views] personally," she wrote. Astor pointed out that she had a number of Roman Catholic friends - G.K. Chesterton among them - with whom she shared, if nothing else, a profound hatred for the Jewish race. Joe Kennedy, in turn, had always detested Jews generally, although he claimed several as friends individually. Indeed, Kennedy seems to have tolerated the occasional Jew in the same way Astor tolerated the occasional Catholic.

As fiercely anti-Communist as they were anti-Semitic, Kennedy and Astor looked upon Adolf Hitler as a welcome solution to both of these "world problems" (Nancy's phrase). No member of the so-called "Cliveden Set" (the informal cabal of appeasers who met frequently at Nancy Astor's palatial home) seemed much concerned with the dilemma faced by Jews under the Reich. Astor wrote Kennedy that Hitler would have to do more than just "give a rough time" to "the killers of Christ" before she'd be in favor of launching "Armageddon to save them. The wheel of history swings round as the Lord would have it. Who are we to stand in the way of the future?" Kennedy replied that he expected the "Jew media" in the United States to become a problem, that "Jewish pundits in New York and Los Angeles" were already making noises contrived to "set a match to the fuse of the world."

Reinheitsgebot, you do realize that you are simply making things up, while I am telling the facts.

Don't you?

Prescott Bush

He was involved with the American Birth Control League as early as 1942, and served as the treasurer of the first national capital campaign of Planned Parenthood in 1947.

No fan of the Bush family,but I just read this on Wiki.

Who'd of thunk it

With fewer than 50 ground troops surrounding the massive Tora Bora region in the mountains of Afghanistan where bin Laden was hiding, ground commanders pleaded for 800 more soldiers, according to Gary Berntsen, the CIA field commander whose book "Jawbreaker" goes into amazing detail about the botched paramilitary operation. Bernt-

sen and other ground commanders said the U.S. let Osama bin Laden get away.

Was this because of President George Bush's close ties to the bin Laden family?

In 1978, Bush and Osama bin Laden's brother, Salem bin Laden, founded Arbusto Energy, an oil company based in Texas.

Several bin Laden family members invested millions in The Carlyle Group, a private global equity firm based in Washington, DC. The company's senior advisor was Bush's father, former President George H.W. Bush. After news of the bin Laden-Bush connection became public, the elder Bush stepped down from Carlyle.

Interestingly, on Sept. 11, 2001, members of the Carlyle Group - including Bush senior, and his former secretary of state, James Baker - were meeting at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington, D.C., along with Shafiq bin Laden, another one of Osama bin Laden's brothers.

While all flights were halted following the terrorist attacks, there was one exception made: The White House authorized planes to pick up 140 Saudi nationals, including 24 members of the bin Laden family, living in various cities in the U.S. to bring them back to Saudi Arabia, where they would be safe. They were never interrogated.


www.denverpost.com

Prescott was a traitorous scumbag that should have been hung.

Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by right-wing American businessmen. The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush's Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

www.bbc.co.uk

What does 'brave Teddy's' death have to do with the Bush's?

Do you think laughable distractions get you anywhere?

Newsflash, the liberal lion is still dead.

Like his father, Joe Jr. admired Adolf Hitler. Young Joe had come away impressed by Nazi rhetoric after traveling in Germany as a student in 1934. Writing at the time, Joe applauded Hitler's insight in realizing the German people's "need of a common enemy, someone of whom to make the goat. Someone, by whose riddance the Germans would feel they had cast out the cause of their predicament.

It was excellent psychology, and it was too bad that it had to be done to the Jews. The dislike of the Jews, however, was well-founded. They were at the heads of all big business, in law etc. It is all to their credit for them to get so far, but their methods had been quite unscrupulous ... the lawyers and prominent judges were Jews, and if you had a case against a Jew, you were nearly always sure to lose it. ... As far as the brutality is concerned, it must have been necessary to use some ... ."

Newsflash, the liberal lion is still dead.

And so is bug out Ronnie, the coward of Beirut.

Like his friend Charles Coughlin (an anti-Semitic broadcaster and Roman Catholic priest), Kennedy always remained convinced of what he believed to be the Jews' corrupt, malignant, and profound influence in American culture and politics. "The Democratic [party] policy of the United States is a Jewish production," Kennedy told a British reporter near the end of 1939, adding confidently that Roosevelt would "fall" in 1940.

But it wasn't Roosevelt who fell. Kennedy resigned his ambassadorship just weeks after FDR's overwhelming triumph at the polls. He then retreated to his home in Florida: a bitter, resentful man nurturing religious and racial bigotries that put him out-of-step with his country, and out-of-touch with history.

And this has what to do with Regan?

Traitorous shitbird should have been hung for this, too.

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

Like his father, Joe Jr. admired Adolf Hitler. Young Joe had come away impressed by Nazi rhetoric after traveling in Germany as a student in 1934.

Are you talking about the Joe Jr. that died on a mission against the Nazi's?

Facts?

hnn.us

Bruce, you googled up Prescott, did your mouse finger cramp up on you so bad you can't google Joe Kennedy jr?

It'll be interesting to see where Chimpy ends up being buried. Seeing as how he turned Iraq into a colony of Iran, a strong case could be made for burying him in Tehran next to the Ayatollahs.

You asshole,one is SR. one is Jr

Again, do you think changing the subject works?

I bet it did when you 3 or 4 years old, but that time has passed.

Tell me, do you really believe that President Bush had sex with Gannon?

By that logic, President Hussein had sex with Ed Schultz because he was at a new conference once.

Bruce, do you really want to call me an 'asshole'?

Think carefully about your anwser.

200 visits to the the White House by a gay escort. You figure it out.

Guckert made more than 200 appearances at the White House during his two-year tenure with the fledging conservative websites GOPUSA and Talon News, attending 155 of 196 White House press briefings. He had little to no previous journalism experience, previously worked as a male escort, and was refused a congressional press pass.

Perhaps more notable than the frequency of his attendance, however, is several distinct anomalies about his visits.

Guckert made more than two dozen excursions to the White House when there were no scheduled briefings. On many of these days, the Press Office held press gaggles aboard Air Force Onewhich raises questions about what Guckert was doing at the White House. On other days, the president held photo opportunities.

On at least fourteen occasions, Secret Service records show either the entry or exit time missing. Generally, the existing entry or exit times correlate with press conferences; on most of these days, the records show that Guckert checked in but was never processed out.


Asshole,it still says Joe Kennedy Jr on my google space,maybe you should google it.He died in WWII as an airforce pilot.

Think carefully about your anwser

Or what?

Well, I won't be your friend anymore.

Zeit,
after rereading the article you posted,OK he may have been an admirer,but he did give his life fighting against them.

Where I come from asshole is a term of endearment.
Hey dude I need all the friends I can get.

Love the music posts,kept me up all night last night

No harm no foul.....

Night man

Champagne Socialism by David Calling

Senator Edward Kennedy was, and will remain, an outstanding example of a champagne socialist. Sociologically speaking, the type has been well recognized for quite some time. Indeed, in Turgenev's great novel, Fathers and Sons, the hero Bazarov asks at one point if you can't drink champagne just because you call yourself a socialist. The French similarly talk about those who vote on the Left but dine on the Right. Such people are exploiting their privileged position in society to curry favor with those less privileged, and so find the way to continue being privileged while also being applauded for it. Clever, or what?

The obituaries for Edward Kennedy have been more or less unmitigated eulogies. The general inference is that he was an outstanding and constructive politician with vast achievements to his credit. At most, there is an apologetic little insertion somewhere of the word "flawed" as though that excused and explained his failure to become president. In simple fact, he owed everything in his career, especially his position in the Senate, to the fact that he had been born who he was, too well-connected and too rich ever to have to work his passage on his own. If this isn't privilege, what is? The years of good living and self-indulgence showed in his face, as once handsome features turned coarse and bloated. Physically, he could only waddle. As for morals, Chappaquiddick is only one incident among others when his behaviour proves him to have been a man of bad character.

Normally speaking, ordinary people would never tolerate someone like him as their elected representative. To present himself as a tribune of the people was the only possible protective covering available to him. That he was successful in this respect, and comes to be buried in Arlington with the president speaking at the graveside, is really the only arresting feature of his career. He has enjoyed the sort of lifelong allowance that once would have been made for a corrupt eighteenth-century English duke. It is hard to believe that he was ever sincere in the populist causes he took up, declaiming about righting wrongs only to go home and commit plenty more wrongs of his own without having to account for them. That's champagne socialism for you, and it seems a taste everybody and anybody can get drunk on.

Reality is you don't deserve to lick Ted's rigor-mortis, formaldehyde-filled nutsack.

#20 | Posted by Newyawker
* * * *

Ummm . . . okay.

Even if we wanted to, we couldn't. The line is too long. What did you do, like, take a number? Or did you just rotate out of taking turns in front of Barack?

"That's champagne socialism for you, and it seems a taste everybody and anybody can get drunk on."

If Ted practiced "champagne socialism" then that is fine with me, it sure as hell was a lot better than the class war perpetrated by the Republicans. Ted may not have been perfect but he did try to do good things for average working Americans which is a lot more than the Republicans ever did. Virtually every advance American working people have made came because of "champagne socialists" or more correctly liberal Democrats.

The bile in this thread is really amazing. It must eat at right wingers to see Ted Kennedy receive an outpouring of praise at his death after 50 years as the most liberal Congressional leader in this country. Even at the end of his life, Kennedy was able to play a major role in the election of a Democratic president and the achievement of huge Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress.

Kennedy wrote or led the fight to pass thousands of bills that have made Americans' lives better -- particularly the poor, minorities and children. His funeral was attended by every living president and many of the Republicans he opposed in the senate for decades, who had the decency and humanity to set aside partisan politics and honor a colleague and friend.

Rest in peace, Senator. I hope the liberal leaders in Congress today learn from your example and spend their time in Washington fighting to make a real difference in people's lives. The place they should start is universal health care.

Even at the end of his life, Kennedy was able to play a major role in the election of a Democratic president and the achievement of huge Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress.

That alone is a huge strike against him. This country runs a lot better when the president and congress are of opposite parties. A lopsided party majority on either side just fucks things up.

A dead man has no defense. He has no future to amend his worst mistakes. He has no lawyer to sue for slander. He has only his legacy. In the end it's not his mistakes and crimes that make a man, it's what he did to atone with his god before he passed on. Kennedy, for all his bad deeds did not cast the die that put him in in his station in life, but he did his best to try and help the common man and fight the devil within. For that he deserves at least and end to mindless heckling from people no less perfect then himself.

He had every opportunity to come clean about his greatest sins, but he chose not to. He doesn't deserve to be buried in Arlington because he doesn't seem to meet the requirements. Oh well, what's done is done.

Virtually every advance American working people have made came because of "champagne socialists" or more correctly liberal Democrats.

And since the 1970's, the liberal democrats have continuously caved in to special interest groups until they're barely distinguishable from Republicans. It is especially so when you look at the lists of Corporate donors.

You and others like you allow both parties to use every little wedge issue they can against YOUR own best interests.

#129

Re: the call for Universal care.

We're going to need more than a wing and a prayer to get there it seems.

Kennedy seemed to unique among legislators in this respect. We've got Schumer and his mini-me in the house, Weiner, willing to give universal care a modicum of lipservice, but I don't know if there's much more political willingness I'm afraid.

"According to Peter Robinson, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution and a former White House speechwriter, Kennedy offered to make a deal with then-Soviet leader Yuri Andropov in 1983."

Kennedy was a flawed hero.. who tried to make a deal with the Soviets to get help beating Reagan in 1984.. but he did it for his country..so.. that's OK?

We're coming

Reagan dealt with the iranians for political gain before 1980 election so I'm not sure what your point is.

How do you know where you're going if you don't know where you've been?

What a waste of space. Arlington should be reserved for TRUE American heros.

Get drunk, kill a girl, get laid to rest in Arlington. Only in America.

Reagan dealt with the iranians for political gain before 1980 election

Do you mean the hostage thing? If he did deal with them before Jan 1981, it was short and sweet:

"Within an hour of taking my hand off that bible, Iran will become a parking lot if there are still AMerican hostages there".

And the Iranians knew he would do it.

While I guess he technicaly qualifies for Arlington having served what horks me off is that he barely qualifies for Arlington Burial and gets it a few days after death, I am sure with full honors.

My dad with 20 years service and an officer had to wait 3 months for burial with partial honors even though he had earned full honors. However if we had waited on a slot for full honors it would have taken at least another month if not 2. So we accepted partial honors. Funny how they can work you in on short notice if your a Kennedy who barely qualifies but for an officer with 20 years of service including service in a combat zone there is a 3+ month wait.

RIP - -
in the spirit of fairness & puttin' his money where his mouth was . .

the Kennedy family wealth should be split among the needy in Massachusetts & surrounding areas

#137 | Posted by goatman at 2009-08-30 10:24 AM

[citation needed]

Something Reagan actually DID say: "I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns."

www.angelfire.com

Actually that was James Watt. Just testing.

You never get a straight answer even when asking a simple question like "Was it OK for a sitting US Senator to reach out to the Soviet Union for help in winning an election?".

You hear "Reagan did this" or "Bush did that".

Honestly I dont know why I bother..

More Reagan brilliance:

"I favor the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and it must be enforced at the point of a bayonet, if necessary."
--Ronald Reagan, Los Angeles Times, October 20, 1965
"I would have voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964."
--Ronald Reagan, Los Angeles Times, June 17, 1966

More uncommon Wisdom from "The Gipper"
"I don't believe a tree is a tree and if you've seen one you've seen them all."
--Governor Ronald Reagan, in the Sacramento Bee, September 14, 1966
"I have flown twice over Mount St. Helens. I'm not a scientist and I don't know the figures, but I have a suspicion that one little mountain out there, in these last several months, has probably released more sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere than has been released in the last ten years of automobile driving or things of that kind."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in Time magazine, October 20, 1980. (According to scientists, Mount St. Helens emitted about 2,000 tons of sulfur dioxide per day at its peak activity, compared with 81,000 tons per day produced by cars.)

The Ronald Reagan Myth
www.thirdworldtraveler.com

Funny, the only place I can find that "quote" is www.drudge.com

Blind... Just like your namesake

Be Well, We're Coming

Kennedy wrote or led the fight to pass thousands of bills that have made Americans' lives better -- particularly the poor, minorities and children.
* * * *

That's what they all pretend they're doing. He just did it longer, and had a good last name to protect him from a jail term that would surely have come his way.

The Dems are for the little people. The poor. The downtrodden. Unless they're rich and in Congress--then you'll keep sending them back, even if they've been chucked out of college for cheating, and let a girl die. Even if they're a disgusting drunk who's an embarrassment to himself and his once-proud name.

But party on. In a month, his seat will be taken by another Kennedy, and the legacy will live on. In your eyes, and in ours.

He doesn't deserve to be buried in Arlington because he doesn't seem to meet the requirements.

Read upthread. He met the requirements to be buried in Arlington as a military veteran from 1951 to 1953. There also are some distinguished civilians buried there, including several Supreme Court justices.

[citation needed]

#140 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2009-08-30 10:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

For a conditional statement? How do you cite that?

Kennedy enlisted in the United States Army in June 1951.[9] Following basic training at Fort Dix, he requested assignment to Fort Holabird for Army Intelligence training, but was dropped after a few weeks without explanation. He went to Camp Gordon for training in the Military Police Corps. In June 1952, he was assigned to the honor guard at SHAPE headquarters in Paris. His father's political connections ensured he was not deployed to the ongoing Korean War. While stationed in Europe he travelled extensively on weekends and climbed the Matterhorn.[11] He was discharged in March 1953 as a private first class.

Kennedy entered Harvard College, and in his spring semester was assigned to the athlete-oriented Winthrop House, where his brothers had also lived.[8] He played as a large, fearless offensive and defensive end on the freshman football team. In May 1951, anxious about maintaining his eligibility for athletics for the next year, he had a friend who was knowledgeable on the subject take his Spanish language examination for him. The two were quickly caught and expelled, but in a standard Harvard treatment for cases of this kind, they were told they could apply for readmission in a year or two after demonstrating good behavior.

Expelled from Harvard for cheating.. NICE

"Within an hour of taking my hand off that bible, Iran will become a parking lot if there are still AMerican hostages there".

When did Reagan say that? That sounds like bullshit.

Do you mean the hostage thing? If he did deal with them before Jan 1981, it was short and sweet:
"Within an hour of taking my hand off that bible, Iran will become a parking lot if there are still AMerican hostages there". And the Iranians knew he would do it.

Why would the Iranians be afraid of a president who'd been negotiating with them *before his election* and then went on to do the Iran-contra deal with them?

By his own admission Reagan was Iran's arms dealer: "A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. As the Tower board reported, what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages. This runs counter to my own beliefs, to administration policy, and to the original strategy we had in mind."

Wikipedia

"He doesn't deserve to be buried in Arlington because he doesn't seem to meet the requirements."

I certainly don't consider Teddy to be any kind of "American hero" but any requirements for burial in Arlington can be waived by the Secretary of the Army.

"The problem of unclear waiver criteria is demonstrated by the seemingly
contradictory decisions and recommendations made by Army officials on
the same cases. Since 1993, there have been 12 cases in which the
Secretary or Acting Secretary of the Army has approved a waiver request
despite the superintendent's or Assistant Secretary of the Army's
recommendation that he disapprove the request. In three of these cases,
the Secretary reversed his own initial waiver decision, deciding to approve
waiver requests that he had originally denied."

www.gao.gov

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy was laid to rest at Arlington National Cemetery .....

If only America's most hallowed ground could vomit

"This country runs a lot better when the president and congress are of opposite parties."

Only if you think the country runs better when it changes nothing. If you want real change you need a Democrat in the WH and a majority of Dems in Congress.

If you want real change you need a Democrat in the WH and a majority of Dems in Congress.

#155 | Posted by danni at 2009-08-30 11:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

January, 2009
February, 2009
March, 2009
April, 2009
May, 2009
June, 2009
July, 2009
August, 2009
September, 2009 (well, OK, it's tomorrow)

Danni, this is the same shit you were posting five years ago.

You got the Congress. You got the White House. Get off your ass and create the perfect society.

Or continue to make excuses.


If only America's most hallowed ground could vomit

it needed saying again

If only America's most hallowed ground could vomit
#154 | Posted by vernon

That's why you were puked out of the main landfill on Taiwan.

If only America's most hallowed ground could vomit
#154 | Posted by vernon

That's why you were puked out of the main landfill on Taiwan.

It needed saying again.

#157 | Posted by vernon | Flag: Shoulda Quit Drinking At Closing Time

When did Reagan say that? That sounds like bullshit.

It might be. That's why I used the conditional word "if". It was in response to Hagbard's also unproven allegation of secret Iranian meetings before his inauguration.

You must read all words and consider the post in its entire context, null.

of course, the Drunk_Dwarf has nothing to say.

all you got is regurgitating what I have already said about you, you drunken, slobbering creep.

funny how drunken losers are so quick to accuse others.

never mind that you have nothing to slur about the thread topic.

If only Florida's remedial English program could vomit, ..... the Drunk_Dwarf would at least be in the slop bucket

. If you want real change you need a Democrat in the WH and a majority of Dems in Congress.

So I am seeing, unfortunately. The changes are for the worse and the bad things from before obama are still present.

Sorry, Danni, history is not on your side. If you were correct, there would be zero history of republicans. The democrats need them to set them back on track every 4-12 years and vice versa. History is on my side with this one, danni. You can't argue the facts.

Not, so, Vermin. Here's what I had to say: You should've quit drinking at closing time. Seriously, , see if you can get some professional help with your chemical dependency. Who knows? You might not keep coming across as a fat, dejected, professionally challenged, unintelligent, ethnically bankrupt, bragging and bloviating slob.

#119 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-08-30 04:50 AM | Reply | Flag: Asshole

Anyone who reads this thread has to realize that the hatred beween libs and cons can never be healed. There is no "unity" at the end of the day. There are two entirely different views of the Constitution--two entirely different views on "good" and "evil". It is like being married to a spouse that hates everything you do and tries to ruin you, even at their own expense.

To stay as one country is to see the future of America destroyed. There is no future as one country. Republicans only wish failure and hatred on Obama. Dems have only hatred for Bush/Reagan concepts, and those who support them. There can be no compromise on either side. There will be no compromise on either side.

As two countries, the hate subsides, and both countries can pursue their agendas unfettered by the hatred---and both sides would prosper. We would still be great allies---and that is the best future for America. This isn't one country---we aren't United---we aren't one country under God, indivisible, anymore--this thread clearly show that fact. Time to face reality people.

has nothing to say.
#162 | Posted by vernon

Well, let's see what you have to say, Vermin, the keen insight and invaluable observations you contribute to DR discourse:

you drunken, slobbering creep.
Posted by vernon at 2009-08-30 12:37 PM

an obvious boner for NANC. ..... but limp: all lip, no wood.
Posted by vernon at 2009-08-30 12:28 PM

I knew some fucking moron would take the bait -- because dogs can't resist the smell of shit. Especially fucking moron dogs like you.
You fucking moron
Posted by vernon at 2009-08-30 03:33 AM

Of course you didn't know this, because you are a fucking moron.
Posted by vernon at 2009-08-30 02:39 AM

Yeah, I see what you mean, Vermin. You have a lot to say. Thanks for the heads-up, fat boy.

#166 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-08-30 01:05 PM | Reply | Flag: Broken record. Actually thinks the more he repeats it, the more people care.

Two countries *squawk*!
Two countries *squawk*!
Two countries *squawk*!
Two countries *squawk*!
Two countries *squawk*!
Two countries *squawk*!
Two countries *squawk*!
Two countries *squawk*!
Two countries *squawk*!

LOL

Hey, bOoB -- here's an idea: Instead of squawking "two countries" over and over, why don't you actually do something to make it happen? Or don't you have the balls to do it? My guess is that you don't have the balls to do it so you'll just keep squawking. Let's see if I'm right.

I'm taking bets. Anyone? LOL

"Yeah, I see what you mean, Vermin. You have a lot to say. Thanks for the heads-up, fat boy."

Gee, Doc...first I read Buffaloed_Boob's #166 and then I read your #167 and I started to think maybe Boob's right. I lost my head when that thought occurred to me so I had to go grab a stiff drink. I'm OK now and I have to tell you that I don't agree that you're the Drunk Dwarf, you remind me more of Dopey.

Jestgettinalong

Attacking me doesn't change the facts. I made several points---you seem to ignore tham. It is like a doctor telling you that you have cancer---and you attack the doctor.

I have seen no valid reasons for remaining one country when half the country hates the other half. The same situation was apparent in the 1860's. The same result will happen if not resolved peaceably. Address the points made in my #166, and you will see the future I predict is inevitable. Of course you can ignore the facts and attack me some more, but the cancer will still be there.

Did Teddy ever serve in the military? I am guessing a person doesn't have to be a military vet to be burried in Arlington then.

#17 | POSTED BY MEMBER2586 AT 2009-08-29 10:50 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Never mind. I guess he did serve a couple of years in the military.

#18 | POSTED BY MEMBER2586 AT 2009-08-29 10:52 PM

Sorry, just had to repost this....it's pretty funny and indicative of the author's group of people who post on this site with misinformation, hatred, intolerance, namecalling and insults in lieu of facts...

And keep on thinking free.....

Ted Kennedy - A life of debauchery
By Bob Weir
"Death makes angels of us all," wrote the author and poet, Jim Morrison. So it appears to be with the demise of the "Liberal lion of the Senate," Ted Kennedy. The man whose life reads like a manual for bad behavior is, in death, being lionized by those who continue to repudiate his myriad transgressions. What kind of a country are we if we willingly blind ourselves to evil because it masquerades as virtue?

When Kennedy drove off the Dyke Bridge on Chappaquiddick Island, his car landed upside down in 7 feet of water. Some ten hours later, when he had contrived a statement of the occurrence, the senator, who had been partying with the young woman and volunteered to drive her home, said he had been able to swim free of the vehicle, but wasn't able to save his passenger. Evidently, he also wasn't able to summon help from those who might have been able to save her life. In fact, he didn't even report the accident until conferring with friends and aides who assisted him with his statement.

During that time, which records indicate took about ten hours, Ms. Kopechne remained in the water. Two amateur fishermen, who came across the overturned car about 8 am, the following morning, called authorities, who immediately sent a diver to investigate. During testimony at the subsequent inquest, the diver said the woman's body was huddled into a spot where an air bubble must have formed. His interpretation was that she had survived in that bubble "for at least two hours down there." Furthermore, he concluded that, had he received a call soon after the accident, "there is a strong possibility that she would have been alive on removal from the submerged car."

Whenever I recall this tragic incident, what truly eats at me is the image of that woman huddled into a small space and struggling for each breath of life, while the coward who put her there was struggling to come up with an alibi to save his political future. How low on the evolutionary scale do you have to be to leave someone to drown in the dark, murky water, as you figure out an angle to free yourself of culpability?

The actions of Ted Kennedy that fateful night spoke volumes about the lack of courage and character in the man. The fact that he was continually reelected to his senate seat speaks volumes about the lack of character in the Massachusetts electorate. Rather than risk the loss of political power from a Kennedy, who could exert enough muscle to steer huge federal funds to the state, the voters evidently decided they could be bought, so they overlooked his pusillanimity as well as his misanthropy. Even the impact of that tragedy didn't stop this womanizing sot from continuing his life of debauchery.

There are those who say his senate career was fruitful for the country. I disagree on the grounds that a person who has demonstrated a complete absence of integrity is not capable of being productive in any commendable area of human endeavor. The fact remains that Ted Kennedy left a woman for dead as he ran away from the scene and didn't report it until he had no other option. Did he spend a minute thinking about the water rising to her mouth and choking off her oxygen?

If that had been your daughter, or my daughter, that he left to drown, how much torment and pain would we have suffered through the years as we watched this guy giving noble speeches for decades, and even having the temerity to run for president? All the contrived rhetoric since then about him having compassion for the little guy is nothing more than the liberal left in constant pursuit of a decent legacy for an unprincipled and pathetic excuse for a human being. Perhaps now, Mary Jo can rest in peace.

Here is the criteria to be met to be qualified for burial at Arlington Cemetery - I personally qualify, I do not see where Sen Kennedy does. Appears to be just one of many abuses by a democrat administration.
www.arlingtoncemetery.org

#35 | POSTED BY MSGT AT 2009-08-29 11:29 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Maybe when we get back in power we can re-bury the guy where he belongs.

#36 | POSTED BY FWTHOM AT 2009-08-29 11:36 PM

Anyone else see how the right wing piggyback their misinformation onto one another, never checking their FACTS?

It's pretty evident here on DR....

Kennedy served in the US Army 1951-53....geniuses

#172 | POSTED BY SCOOTER28054 AT 2009-08-30 01:41 PM

That you have taken the nickname of a repug operative who OUTED our own cia ops for political retribution to outing LIES of lilaWol/hallichainy is quite instructive.....

For those choosing to SMEAR the memory of the dearly departed for a traffic accident.....

Suffering from concussion and shock, Kennedy dove repeatedly to try to save his passenger. Kennedy went back to the Kennedy compound to get help, and he and two cousins were unable to get the car open to get Mary Jo out of the overturned vehicle. Kennedy and all others at the compound said he had not been drinking.

While Kennedy also spoke to the authorities in less time than Cheney took in speaking to the authorities, Kennedy still left the scene of an accident without immediately reporting the accident to the authorities.

Kennedy pled quilty to leaving the scene of an accident, was convicted and succesfully completed his probation.

He also made a very public speech where he took full responsibility for his actions that night.

"I do not seek to escape responsibility for my actions by placing the blame either on the physical and emotional trauma brought on by the accident, or anyone else. I regard as indefensible the fact that I did not report the accident to the police immediately."

_www.americanrhetoric.com ...ppaquiddick.htm_

Yes, "SCOOTER" accidents that claim the lives of people are quite tragic....for those who pass and those who stay also....it occurs on a daily basis....this one occurred a few decades ago.....get over it and realize that using it to make some kind of politically partisan point on a blog doesn't make you seem intelligent...just blindly partisan, eh?

RIP Teddy....

#172 | Posted by scooter28054 at 2009-08-30 01:41 PM | Reply | Flag

You care nothing about Marry Jo--you just hate Kennedy--any Kennedy. If you were so concerned about human life, uyou would apply the same criteria to Bush and the thousands he killed for absolutely nothing. Kennedy was part of a terrible tragedy, and a womans life was lost. His actions were not deliberate. Bush killed hundreds of thousands, and his actions were very deliberate.

Proof of your hypocrisy, partisanship, and hatred for liberal America. Party before country--that's you. I bet you call yourself a Christian as you wave your flag--am I right?

"American Royalty."

That concept is in direct opposition to most of the better ideals this country was founded on.

That's why Kennedy's popularity despite being a murderer is so stomach turning to many. That certain people are born better than others and are therefore above the rules eveyrone else must live by is a barbaric concept.

Somehow, I have difficulty believing that "sully" applies his same lack of insight and understanding to the bush family....eh?

SULLY
verb
TAINT, defile, soil, tarnish, stain, blemish, pollute, mar...

from the French....soillier to soil
American Oxford Dictionary

So very appropriately named, eh?

Sully

Kennedy isn't a murderer--proven in a court of law. I guess the rule of law means nothing to you unless you agree with the ruling. However, you are a liar and that is proven by your post. You worship a murderer, and prove it with your support of your God Bush.

To blind partisans like sully.....having a traffic accident that results in one death is MURDER

But invading/occupying and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people........he has no problem with......

too fkn funny if not so fkn stupid, eh?

"Ted Kennedy - A life of debauchery
By Bob Weir"

Excellent article, Scooter and all TRUE. I'll never figure the people of MA. I was flabbergasted when they continued to reelect Gerry Studds over and over after he buggered a 17-year old congressional page. Then, of course, we had Barney Frank and the male prostitution ring operating out of his apartment. Go figure, I guess anything goes in MA.

"That's why Kennedy's popularity despite being a murderer is so stomach turning to many. "

That's the kind of hyperbolic bullshit one can expect from rtards. Kennedy was no more a "murderer" than Laura Bush.

Woke

Good post. I liked the reference to TAINT.

That is what Sully represents--the TAINT of America--good name for him.

so i guess obama is a murderer too, since he has pulled the troops out of iraq and afghanistan?

"Suffering from concussion and shock, Kennedy dove repeatedly to try to save his passenger."

LOL....embarrassingly stupid. No hope...

so i guess obama is a murderer too, since he has pulled the troops out of iraq and afghanistan?

#183 | Posted by scooter28054 at 2009-08-30 01:57 PM | Reply | Flag

True---anything else? Obama has the blood of Americans on his hands---just--like--you.

Obama should have withdrawn all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan as soon as he took office. They are dying for nothing---there is no reason to be in either country. Billions in cash for nothing---thousands of lives lost for nothing.

LOL....embarrassingly stupid. No hope...

#184 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2009-08-30 01:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

I bet if Bush said it you would believe it. Wave your flag and tell us what a patriot you are.

"I bet if Bush said it you would believe it."

Didn't like Bush... and now I dislike Obama even more. Didn't vote FOR Bush, voted AGAINST Gore and Kerry. However, I DID vote for a democrat for governor...does that give me redemption?

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Pass health care. For everyone. Let all who are sick and dying get the same care that Ted Kennedy got in his last year. That's what I have to say.

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uh, well, that is the point, everyone would not get the care teddie got, under obamacare

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"Somehow, I have difficulty believing that "sully" applies his same lack of insight and understanding to the bush family....eh?"

That's because you're a total hack of satirical proportions and can't conceive of anyone else not being a total hack. I hate the Bushes.

Go troll someone else. You aren't capable of understanding me.

#187 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2009-08-30 02:07 PM | Reply | Flag

The point stands. I bet if Bush said it you would believe it. Wave your flag and tell us what a patriot you are. Party above country--that's you. You lie about the vote for a dem governor--it is an embarrassingly stupid lie. No hope...

How do I know? The same way you know Kennedy didn't repeatedly dive to try to save Mary Jo.

"That's the kind of hyperbolic bullshit one can expect from rtards."

I'm not a Republican, you stupid hacks. The reason you think I am is because you aren't a normal person. You are too much of a partisan idiot to relate to normal people anymore so you think everyone else is a partisan idiot too.

Get it through your thick skulls: I simply don't like rich boys who kill people and try to pretend it didn't happen before using their power to make the situation go away.

Taint

Kennedy didn't run from his responsibility--he faced the same consequences anyone else would have faced in his situation, and received more punishment than many. You lie when you say he used his power.

"Kennedy isn't a murderer--proven in a court of law."

Nobody is ever proven innocent in a court of law. You have no idea what you're babbling about.

"I guess the rule of law means nothing to you unless you agree with the ruling."

Courts have been proven wrong thousands of times. you have no idea what you are babbling about.

"You worship a murderer, and prove it with your support of your God Bush."

I've never supported Bush in any way. You have no idea what you are babbling about.

"I'm not a Republican, you stupid hacks."

I didn't say Republican. I said rtard. If it quacks like an rtard, it's an rtard.

"Within an hour of taking my hand off that bible, Iran will become a parking lot if there are still AMerican hostages there".

If Reagan did say that it was tongue and cheek BS.

Reagan traded American arms for hostages and a large sum of cash. It was a deal made long before the election. Carter refused to negotiate with terrorists as was mandated by law, and actually attempted to rescue the hostages with a military mission. That mission failed due to poor planning and a sudden sand storm, for all you republicans that can't remember. The money taken from Iran for weapons was secretly given to the contras in Central America which was specifically prohibited by Congress at the time. Regan, being the two faced actor he was just said 'fuck congress and the law', word for word what Bush and Cheney both said behind closed doors.

Until these injustices are admitted by the perps, none of you pubbies have any leg to stand on when it comes to accusing T.Kennedy of murder, a charge that was never made over an accident that was fully investigated. One thing we can all count on is that no right wing moron will ever accuse George Bush of murder for the hundreds of thousands of deaths in Iraq which it is now proven was never a threat to America, and no right wing moron will ever admit that it was GW Bush and Co. that sold this country down the drain to the wealthiest among us, using secrecy and inside deals with the federal reserve, the SEC and the FDIC.

If you crash your car into a lake and can't get the passenger out the first thing you do when go for help is to the call emergency services. The only reason not to do so is that you are trying to avoid having the authorities know at all or you are trying to come with a fake story or alibi or you are going to tamper with evidence. And if you did't call the cops right away, then everything you say about the event is extremely likely to be a lie. This is common sense.

That you people would forward this bullshit story of Ted doing everything he could to save this girl without addressing why he didn't call the cops as soon as he got near a phone goes beyond absurd. That you seem to not even realize this shows how deeply your brains have been damaged by partisan idiocy. You shold ashamed for trying to forward such an obvious bullshit story and the reason you aren't is that you've traded your basic critical thinking abilities for party loyalty.

Call me whatever names you want, you are making a mockery of yourselves.

"You shold ashamed for trying to forward such an obvious bullshit story"

You should be ashamed for smearing someone as a "murderer". It was an accident. There was no premeditation. Perhaps his behavior was shameful, maybe it was manslaughter, and/or perhaps he really did try to save her. I don't know, and you don't either.

I have seen no valid reasons for remaining one country when half the country hates the other half.

LOL It took only two posts to prove I was right. Thanks, bOoB! You are too predictible. I can read you like a book. And as I said -- no balls to do it. Just squawking. LOL!

How does it feel to be a foregone conclusion?

"You should be ashamed for smearing someone as a "murderer". It was an accident. There was no premeditation. Perhaps his behavior was shameful, maybe it was manslaughter, and/or perhaps he really did try to save her. I don't know, and you don't either."

You don't get to say it was an accident if your behavior immediately after the incident shows that not even you believed it was an accident. If it was an accident, you call the cops. If it was something else, then you play games and make silly excuses the way Kennedy did. I'm sorry but I will not shut my brain off and stop using common sense and sound judgement because it offends you as someone who has pledged blind loyalty to one of the two corrupt political organizations that is bleeding us dry.

I deference to your one somewhat reasonable point, I will refer to him as a killer rather than a murderer.

Thanks, bOoB!
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#200 | Posted by goatman

Zen koan for the day:

If BuffaloBob didn't post, would Goatman exist? Meditate on it and discuss.

"it offends you as someone who has pledged blind loyalty to one of the two corrupt political organizations that is bleeding us dry."

You must be talking to someone else. I'm a partisan for the left, not any particular political party.

And here's my tribute to all DR's rightard POS' that have bashed Ted Kennedy posthumously:

Funny how you misanthropists bleed your little melodramatic hearts over Mary Jo, yet you support warmonger neocons that attack foreign countries with no viable justification, which eventually leads to the death of thousands and perhaps even millions of people. Yes, people, you assholes, even though your radio masters have successfully brainwashed you to dehumanize people of different cultures, religions, etc. Where are your bleeding hearts for the women, children, and elderly that have lost their lives in Iraq, you vile hypocrites? Reality is you don't deserve to lick Ted's rigor-mortis, formaldehyde-filled nutsack.

#20 | Posted by Newyawker
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So? You are a hypocrite for suggesting this man is anybody's hero! He attempted to sabotage President Reagan's plans by negotiating with the Kremlin (KGB) and offering to sabotage the plans. Oh but the left like to say he was a hero to them. That just about tells me everything I need to know about liberals.

The fact your talking about his nutsack also tells me a lot about you. You seem fixated on it.

This man should have been indited for murder and treason but he's your hero. This man represents everything you people hate. He's rich and he used his wealth and influence to keep out of jail. Do you actually think if anybody else did the same shit, they would not go to jail?

Lonnie

"I'm a partisan for the left, not any particular political party."

Well whatever bias you are admitting to is nothing to be proud of if it causes you to make excuses for the type of behavior we've been discussing here.

Plus Lonnie, Hussein was elected to 'end the unjust wars' yet he has followed the Bush plan to a T, with no change at all.

Hussein has done nothing to stop the wars, yet the liberals sit their quietly while the very reason they elected Hussein's socialist/terrorist ass is ignored.

Liberals are sick animals, downer cattle who don't care if they elect freaks, crooks, killers, and pedophiles, as long they push a hard left agenda.

Zeitgeist,

I think it's funny when they go on their crazed rants about how bush killed thousands of people all while their messiah hasn't put an end to either war. Then EVERY policy the messiah disapproved of during the election is still being carried over from the previous administration. Yet they tell us that we are the hypocrites.

The only difference between god and Obama is that God does not think he's Obama.

It's been 7 months since Obama got elected. He owns each and every war and Bush policy now. So rant on!

Lonnie

"Well whatever bias you are admitting to is nothing to be proud of if it causes you to make excuses for the type of behavior we've been discussing here."

I haven't excused anything. I said your "murderer" rhetoric was bullshit and you admitted it was. End of story.

The only difference Lonnie is that Hussein now works for the terrorist.

He puts islamic terrorists up in million dollar luxury resorts, while Holder plots prosecutions of the very men and women who worked to defeat the terrorist.

If Holder attempts to put one CIA operative in jail, there will be a revolt in this country which will sweep Hussein from power.

They seemingly have no idea what they are fucking with.

Yes you have a point. It shows the most of the lefties here are hypocrites because their messiah is engaging in the same policies that they criticized Bush for yet I don't hear them complaining now? All is well in looney toon land because the messiah is in office. It does not matter that he's continuing the same practices.

It's hypocritical for the Obama administration to complain about the lockerby bombers release when they released the guy that bombed the USS Cole.

I think that politics will implode on itself if that happens. I think that they are throwing as much stuff into the air as they can so that they can pull a David Copperfield on us. While we watch the left hand, it's the right hand that's trying to be invisible. If we focus too long on the CIA thing, we may not notice that they just passed Obama Care. I think the CIA thing is all talk for the purpose of distracting us.

Lonnie

Don't underestimate the fanatasism of the terrorists Hussein is building his empire with.

He is doing his handlers work and the end goal is the destruction of our country.

You should change your name to Rexindenmark.

I haven't. I look at all of his policies thus far and they all seem to be focused on collapsing the economy because he doesn't think our economy is fair. Everything he's done appears to me to be focused on ruining the economy.

Higher Taxes
Higher unemployment
Crap and Tax
Killing the medical industry
Killing the oil and gas industry
Hostile takeover of the Auto Industry
Killing the Insurance Industry
Takeover of the banking industry
Higher Federal Spending than Even Bush used.

It's all 100% disturbing yet it's an end to his means to kill the economy. So he can make our economy "Fair" in his view. I just wonder how many people this is going to hurt in the end.

Lonnie

Somehow, I have difficulty believing that "sully" applies his same lack of insight and understanding to the bush family....eh?

#177 | Posted by woke
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What a dumbass. Before you make that kind of assertion, it would be wise to click on the poster's name and peruse his or her posts in the past. It would have saved you looking like a retard.

Or maybe not, come to think of it.

I will refer to him as a killer rather than a murderer.
#201 | POSTED BY SULLY AT 2009-08-30 03:09 PM

And in doing so you point out your own IGNORANCE, and I find it hilarious how all the people that voted lilaWol/hallichainy into office are now suddenly LIBERTARIANS, who deny their votes....

Disengenuous and bullshit political partisans artists at best.or too young to know any better...more likely in your case, eh?

LMFAO @ YOU.....

GROW the fk up sonnyboy,er....sullyboy...

Right

I have dealt with "sully" in the past...I believe he was denigrating war veterans and their gold star mothers....and you are welcome to continue in that vein if you wish....

Right is Right, eh?
Anyone who thinks one side of it is always "right" is not too frickin bright imho.....

"His father Prescott Bush, banker to the Nazis..."

The aptly named jackass has a point here. So General Electric was lightbulb supplier to the Nazis, UPI the news supplier to the Nazis and Shinola the....well, jackass does not know the difference when it comes to substantive due process.

It's horrible to think Mary Jo Kopechne survived almost 2 hours trapped inside the car before she died.

from Wikipedia -

...Earlier that morning, two amateur fishermen had seen the overturned car in the water and notified the inhabitants of the cottage nearest to the pond, who called the authorities at around 8:20 am.

A diver was sent down and discovered Kopechne's body at around 8:45 am. The diver, John Farrar, later testified at the inquest that Kopechne's body was pressed up in the car in the spot where an air bubble would have formed. He interpreted this to mean that Kopechne had survived for a while after the initial accident in the air bubble, and concluded that

"Had I received a call within five to ten minutes of the accident occurring, and was able, as I was the following morning, to be at the victim's side within twenty-five minutes of receiving the call, in such event there is a strong possibility that she would have been alive on removal from the submerged car."

Farrar believed that Kopechne "lived for at least two hours down there."...


CalifChris,

I think it's sick that Melissa Lafkey from Huffington Puffington Post wrote an article saying that Mary Jo would have somehow been thrilled that she sacrificed her life to further the Democrat party. These people know no shame!

Lonnie

Awful lot of people on their high horses here.
Let's go back to Chappaquiddick, and the fallout from what happened there.
Let's tell the same story, but this time, let's take out "Edward Kennedy" and substitute "Ronald Reagan".
Do you still feel the same way?
I highly doubt it.
What I'd expect to here is something along the lines of:
"Reagan didn't kill anyone, it was an ACCIDENT!"
"You leftards are just being partisan hacks!"
"Sure, he didn't handle it well, but he's only human!"
"Sure, it a black mark on him, but look at all the GOOD he did!"
"But he was a very good president!"

And Reagan did do good, and was a very good president.
But Kennedy also did good, and was a very good senator. Just ask some long-term Republican senators.

"The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones." -Shakespeare

"I haven't excused anything. I said your "murderer" rhetoric was bullshit and you admitted it was. End of story."

LOL. For someone who likes to accuse others of bullshitting you sure love spreading it around yourself. That Ted Kennedy is responsible for that woman's death and that he didn't call for help can't be disputed. Given the nasty situation, the only reasons for someone to to take issue with the word "murderer" would be either in defense of his actions or because the poster has some kind of sad need to troll "righties" by pathetically playing juvenile games with the semantics of using the word "murderer".

As I said before, whatever bias is causing you to behave in this manner is nothing be proud of.....

Reagan was not a good president. The price of his policies are coming due now.

#204 | Posted by lwalk17

Now, tard, go back and read what was written in plain English in the original post you pasted in. Did I ever say he was my hero, or did I ever say what happened to Mary Jo was OK?

If you can read again, you should clearly deduce that I was pointing out the HYPOCRISY of the warmonger right that are OK with bogus invasions that kill hundreds of thousands or millions of innocents, yet shed their crocodile tears for a Democratic campaign worker. You r'wingnuts could care less about Mary Jo, you just use her as leverage for your partisan hysteria.

"Awful lot of people on their high horses here."

He wasn't caught with a bag of weed. He killed someone. What kind of scum finds that acceptable.

"Let's tell the same story, but this time, let's take out "Edward Kennedy" and substitute "Ronald Reagan".
Do you still feel the same way?
I highly doubt it."

You are revealing more about yourself with this little strawmen than you are anyone else. YOU are willing to blow off his actions due to mindless party loyalty. Don't project that onto others. Some people actually believe in right and wrong.

He wasn't caught with a bag of weed. He killed someone. What kind of scum finds that acceptable.

#224 | Posted by Taint at 2009-08-30 06:52 PM | Reply | Fla

Hundreds of people are killed the same way every year---in auto accidents. Kennedy went through the same courts the drivers of the cars that killed webt through, and was punished more harshly than most. Why aren't you a member of MADD and showing your concern about those other deaths?

You are simply scum that hates. It has nothing to do with Mary Jo---you care nothing for her---you use her corpse as a bashing tool.

The scum here is you. You are the Taint of America--take a big whiff--that stench is you.

BBob,

You rail against the supposedly protected George H.W. Bush when it comes to dubious claims of pedophilia; yet you get really angry when one calls a spade a spade when it comes to Sen. Edward Kennedy and Ms. Kopechne.

Are you truly that biased?

"Hundreds of people are killed the same way every year---in auto accidents."

It ceases to become an accident when you go about covering your tracks instead of calling for help. There was a shot a sober, competent person could have saved her. He decided that his own needs outweighed her last shot at life.

"It has nothing to do with Mary Jo---you care nothing for her---you use her corpse as a bashing tool."

If someone else dies to your extreme selfishness, I am going to think you are scum regardless of who you killed. It is about common decency.

You're pathetic and I feel sorry for you.

You're pathetic and I feel sorry for you.

#227 | Posted by Sully

Don't feel sorry for him.

He has already convicted George H.W. Bush on FAR less evidence.

The Chappaquidick incident is a no-brainer - Sen. Kennedy admitted such. Yet, BBob will not only convict George HW Bush on FAR less, but will not only shrug-off Kennedy's crimnal behavior, but will verbally attack you for even having the temerity to bring it up.

Raygun did suck. His presidency was one of the most harmful to America ever. From letting illegals flood the border for amnesty to creating the destruction of wages he was an evil man. May his name always be associated with dirt.

You rail against the supposedly protected George H.W. Bush when it comes to dubious claims of pedophilia; yet you get really angry when one calls a spade a spade when it comes to Sen. Edward Kennedy and Ms. Kopechne.

Are you truly that biased?

#226 | Posted by JeffJ at 2009-08-30 07:06 PM | Reply | Flag

When HW Bush goes on trial for the accusations like Kennedy had his day in court, then I'll STFU.

It seems you are the partisan--supporting a pedophile who has had several books written about his pedophilia--has had several witnesses come forwars---had people killed in the investigation---and had victims that could testify---and still no arrest---or even media coverage. HW used his power to hide his pedophilia. Kennedy went to court and took his punishement.

I guess you can't tell the difference.

It ceases to become an accident when you go about covering your tracks instead of calling for help. There was a shot a sober, competent person could have saved her. He decided that his own needs outweighed her last shot at life.

#227 | Posted by Taint at 2009-08-30 07:14 PM | Reply | Flag

Kennedy dove to save her---to say he didn't is to lie--you don't know--you weren't there. The man was in shock--as anyone would be. The only evidence of Kennedy's actions come from Kennedy himself. Kennedy went to trial and was punished. Scum like you just hate. Mary Jo is just a tool of your hatred. I don't feel sorry for you---you are the scum of America.

This is two countries---the hatred is deep.

I agree. Time to make the divide official

Kennedy dove to save her---to say he didn't is to lie--you don't know--you weren't there. The man was in shock--as anyone would be...

I read that also. I do believe he attempted to save her and dove back in a few times but he was drunk, he was likely in shock, and I think after the few attempts he made to save her and when Kennedy wasn't able to get inside the car to reach her he figured she was already dead and there was no more he could do. He then looked out for himself and went back to the house where his friends were able to help him.

The gruesome part was, unbeknownst to Kennedy, apparently she survived for almost 2 hours in an air bubble inside the car. But it was dark, the car was underwater, and he had no way of knowing she was probably still alive.

This is two countries---the hatred is deep.

#232 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

I agree. Time to make the divide official.

#233 | Posted by jackass


Well, then will you two fellows do me a favor and make the "BuffaloBob and Jackass New Map of the Divided USA" so at least I'll know for sure what country I'll be living in once I move out of California.

Thanks.

BB and Jackass,

Where do moderates of both stripes go? I guess we need three countries huh? The one with the moderates will of course be the largest seeing as that is 60% of Americans.

This is two countries---the hatred is deep.

#232 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

I agree. Time to make the divide official.

#233 | Posted by jackass

da bOoB finally has another citizen of bOoBistan: jackass. How much more perfect could that be? LOL

Where do moderates of both stripes go? I guess we need three countries huh? The one with the moderates will of course be the largest seeing as that is 60% of Americans.

#236 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2009-08-30 08:02 PM | Reply | Flag

There are no moderates. You mean peopole who have no opinion about anything? I've never met one. No opinion on abortion? Gay marriage? Obama? Socialism? Health Care? I think these "moderates" are in your imagination. There certainly aren't any in congress---and that is where the division comes in. Tell me the 60% of moderates in congress, and you will have a point.

Facts are, republicans oppose everything dems do in congress, and dems oppose everything cons do in congress----we need to separate them and have them govern their own countries to make progress. Your 60% seem to elect partisan hacks on both sides to congress---how do you explain that? I can explain it---there are no moderates. Pick your leader---follow the Bush regime---or follow the Obama plan.

BBob,

You are actually more conservative than you realize.

What you seem to be advocating is shifting power to the states. Jefferson would be proud.

Where do moderates of both stripes go? I guess we need three countries huh? The one with the moderates will of course be the largest seeing as that is 60% of Americans.

#236 | Posted by TaoWarrior

You must pick a side. Everybody leans one way. If you truly are split down the middle, flip a coin.

#236

I'd like a mountain just for me and my family, if that's ok.

You all can split up the rest of the country any way you want!

There are no moderates.

LOL Binary bOoB strikes again.

bOoB, not only are there moderates but there are moderate conservatives and moderate liberals. There are also people who fall between all of the above and people that fall between all of those.

I suppose you think there is only black and white and no in between, too, don't you?

You mean peopole who have no opinion about anything?

LOL again. That's not what being a moderate means, bOoB. Look up the word before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

Hopefully the liberal country could join the EU. The right side would soon resemble Mexico.

No govt services just the rich taking advantage of the poor. You could make church mandatory though.

Now, tard, go back and read what was written in plain English in the original post you pasted in. Did I ever say he was my hero, or did I ever say what happened to Mary Jo was OK?

If you can read again, you should clearly deduce that I was pointing out the HYPOCRISY of the warmonger right that are OK with bogus invasions that kill hundreds of thousands or millions of innocents, yet shed their crocodile tears for a Democratic campaign worker. You r'wingnuts could care less about Mary Jo, you just use her as leverage for your partisan hysteria.

#223 | Posted by Newyawker
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OH and leave your hypocrisy in the dark? Really? Then let's go there. Murder is a punishable offense. Driving under the influence is a punishable offense. Nobody said he planned to murder her. Obviously, your like every other libtard here. Laws don't apply to congressmen because they are tooooooo important. Gotcha loud and clear.

TheTom if Reagan had done the same thing I'd be saying the exact same thing. It doesn't matter if the person is a democrat or republican. That was the actions of a true coward and she died because of it. If he'd called the police right away, she would still be alive, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Hell if he'd gotten something to break out the back window, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion. Instead he walked back to his hotel and wasted valuable time resulting in her death.

Doing the right thing isn't always personally convenient. However, it is the right thing. He wouldn't have suffered much politically for drunk driving offense.

Lonnie

You are actually more conservative than you realize.

Liberals support freedom, and hate those who are against freedom. There isn't a conservative bone in my body. Just because I hate those who hate freedom makes me a liberal-not a conservative.

What you seem to be advocating is shifting power to the states. Jefferson would be proud.

WQhere did I ever advocate power to the States? Your delusions are catching up. I support two countries--not more power to the States--at least not the liberal States. If you want the States to have more power--join the conservative country. You can support pedophiles in your country too. That has to be a plus for you.

#239 | Posted by JeffJ at 2009-08-30 08:17 PM | Reply | Flag

Since people are raising conjecture that he 'tried to save her', which is completely laughable, here is another conjecture.

Teddy raped Mary Jo and killed her to shut her up, I think a equal if not more plausible, explanation

Hopefully the liberal country could join the EU.

But there are a log of conservataives in the EU. da bOoB would not approve and would want to split again.

Wow. Two people in bOoBistan and already there is a schism. I think it was predicted a few days ago that this would indeed happen. LOL

Viva bOoBistan!

You mean peopole who have no opinion about anything? I've never met one. No opinion on

abortion? Against, mostly but there are times when it is neccesary.

Gay marriage? Doesn't affect me so sure why not

Obama? I voted for him, so far not thrilled but it's still early.

Socialism? Against

Health Care? It needs reforming, I'm willing to give just about anything a try if it sucks we can always reform it again.

So where am I in your view point? There are too many issues for you to try and pigeon hole people on a few. Why do we keep electing partisian hacks? No clue this is the first time in my life I voted for a major party candidate for president and thats only because he seemed a better choice than the fake libertarian Barr. The same hacks keep going back because the oligarchy has convinced people that there are only two choices.

Teddy raped Mary Jo and killed her to shut her up- all in about 20 minutes, Zeitgeist, right? You idiot.

An idiot would believe anything Killer Kennedy had to say, Papa Joe knew how to treat the women and the rotten apple didn't fall far from the diseased tree.

Camelrot is dead Sitdown, you need to find a different bizarre and laughable fantasy to sycophantically worship.

If you think Teddy the swimmer couldn't dive in 8 ft of stagnant water, I have a big dig to sell you.

Hopefully the liberal country could join the EU. The right side would soon resemble Mexico.

#243 | Posted by jackass
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Actually no Jackass, it would not. However when your side of the country is broke, don't bother trying to move into our side. Most of our side will be people with jobs. Your side, not so much but hey you'll get to create a new country with your liberal buddies and bitch about Republicans while our side is VERY prosperous.

However, I'd have to suggest strict border enforcement. One that accounts for each individual that crosses so we can make sure they leave when they are supposed to. Of course, we'll have to fine every business that hires foreigners like you illegally generating more money for the government.

Now then go make your clusterfuck..ooops I meant Utopia while you still think you know it all.

Lonnie

So where am I in your view point?

#249 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2009-08-30 08:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anyplace you want to be--I could give a fuck less.

Anyplace you want to be--I could give a fuck less.

When half the population has an attitude like that, and the other half is ratsa, there's little doubt what country I want to be in! LOL

Seriously -- da bOoB is clearly getting flummoxed being asked the practical questions about his "two country" dream. Reality and bOoB don't mix.

Is that like Johnny 300's two family theory?

So where am I in your view point?

#249 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2009-08-30 08:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anyplace you want to be--I could give a fuck less.

#254 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-08-30 09:04 PM | Reply | Flag

Funny since you were the one trying to pigeon hole people as all left or right with no moderats. Like I said we will take a third country in your utopian dreams.

Like I said we will take a third country in your utopian dreams.

What about the moderate liberals? Are they suddenly homeless?

I don't think da bOoB has thought out this "two country" thing too well. LOL

Taowarrior

I pigeonhole no one. You haven't been reading accurately. I want the people who hate each other to have their own countries. It is about freedom and human happiness. Both would be happier, and their coutries would both be going in the direction they want. As it is--they are tearing this country apart--just like the 1860's, and the results will be the same. I am trying to prevent the bloodshed that will follow this hatred. read this thread and tell me it isn't full of hate.

I want the people who hate each other to have their own countries.

It's starting to make sense why bOoBistan consists of only you and ratsa and why ratsa was so willing to become a citizen!

read this thread and tell me it isn't full of hate.

#261 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

As opposed to Love Bob, who goes around handing out flowers.

Seriously Bob, get help, you fucking nut job.

Nice links Libtwisted.

Lonnie

As opposed to Love Bob, who goes around handing out flowers.

Seriously Bob, get help, you fucking nut job.

#264 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-08-30 09:27 PM | Reply | Flag

You make my point, but are too stupid to realize it. Yes--I hate those who hate my country. Do you love those who hate your country.

This country proves every day that the split is inevitable.

Taowarrior

So what will your country do about abortion rights? Gay marriage? Health care? Affirmative action? Welfare? You have to make a decision--you can't be wishy washy all your life.

Righhhht, tell us again who 'did' 9/11, Love Bob.

BoOb, your hateful towards everyone else so why in the fuck do you have the nerve to get on your fucking high horse and be offended when you get it back? You should expect it. Don't start whining like spanked kid because you've received what you doled out.

Lonnie

LWalk17

I am not concerned about the hate directed at me dumbass--that isn't the point--it is the hate directed towards liberals. This thread shows the hatred cons have for everything liberal--it has nothing to do with me. Your stupidity is astounding.

This is the hatred I am talking about dipshit--pay attention.

Higher Taxes
Higher unemployment
Crap and Tax
Killing the medical industry
Killing the oil and gas industry
Hostile takeover of the Auto Industry
Killing the Insurance Industry
Takeover of the banking industry
Higher Federal Spending than Even Bush used.

It's all 100% disturbing yet it's an end to his means to kill the economy. So he can make our economy "Fair" in his view. I just wonder how many people this is going to hurt in the end.

Get your own country, and all that goes away. Simple isn't it. Take your hatred with you.

Love Bob, tell us what you think of President Bush and Dick Cheney.

Honestly, I've been so moved by your love for all things American that I am going to plant a yellow flower in your honor tomorrow.

Then I am going to take a shit on it.

Get your own country,

Actually, bOoB, since you and ratsa are the only ones who buy into this "two country" thing, it makes more sense for y'all to get your own country and let the other 299,999,998 of us who love ours keep it.

I know, I know, it makes too much sense so you won't want to buy into it. Just saying . . .

BoOb,

Those are facts! It's not hatred. If it was hatred, I'd be saying a hell of a lot worse things than that.

Lonnie

Those are facts! It's not hatred. If it was hatred, I'd be saying a hell of a lot worse things than that.

They are simply lies, and they display your hatred for this country.

Higher Taxes

Only for those making more than 200,000 a year--is that you? Even then--I have seen ZERO tax increases for anyone yet. You lie. You hate.

Higher unemployment

Link? You lie. You hate.

Crap and Tax

A lie with obvious hate. Got a link to any bill called "crap and tax"? You lie--you hate.

Killing the medical industry

You confuse the insurance industry with the medical industry. That is because you are a moron. We are #37 in health care in the world--#50 in longevity--and #1 in health care spending. You lie. You hate.

Killing the oil and gas industry

WTF are you talking about? Link? You lie. You hate.

Hostile takeover of the Auto Industry

The auto industry was going bankrupt without government help--just like Chrysler back in the 80's. Obama saved the industry and saved millions of jobs. The alternative was to let them close up shop and swell the unemployment lines that you seem so concerned about. You lie. You hate.

Killing the Insurance Industry

Good--I support these bloodsuckers getting fucked. In your own country, you can have them.

Takeover of the banking industry

Your ignorance is matched only by your stupidity. If Obama had let the banks fail--they would have taken every business who had their money in the bank with them--which is virtually every business in the country. In your country---you won't need banks.

Higher Federal Spending than Even Bush used.

Not by choice--his expenditures were necessary to cover Bush and the cons fuck ups. Again--in your own country--you would have none of this. No debt--no libs to stand in your way.

Why should you support a country that is going in exactly the opposite way that you desire, and will continue to go that way for the rest of your life?

Any answer? I doubt you can think well enough to respond with anything but more hate.

why does Ted get to be buried at Arlington?

..and they display your hatred for this country.

Nothing says hatred for your country like advocating breaking it up, bOoB. LOL

"Ted Kennedy was a true American hero."

A true hero would tried to get the poor drowning girl out of his car instead of running off to get legal advice

This is a seminal moment in US history, the bizarre loon Bob who advocated imprisoning and executing the last President and Vice President, is now 'Love Bob', a cross between Capt. America and Casey Treat.

Wow, I feel a tear welling up, what with all the love that Love Bob is spreading and such.

Taowarrior

So what will your country do about abortion rights? Gay marriage? Health care? Affirmative action? Welfare? You have to make a decision--you can't be wishy washy all your life.

#267 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-08-30 09:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well since I favor a democratic republic I imagine that we would do what the majority wanted. As far as the first two I don't vote on them so whatever everyone else decides, Health care once again whatever the majority decides I personally would vote for a single payer set up. Something like a HDHP with benefits for saving in an HSA. However I am the only one I have ever found going for something like that so not likely to be the outcome. Affirmative action once again what the majority wanted, I have never really dealt with this one so no real opinion. Overall I disagree with it. Welfare well I guess we are back to the majority. Me, in a form of workfare like what Clinton signed into law pretty good.

Of course I do not claim to speak for all moderates so what I said has no say in what the final laws will be. One thing I will say is that without the 20%'ers on both sides the oligarchy would have a much harder time of dividing and conquering.

BuffaloBob --

Which color of this map of our country will you be claiming as your half?

Red half or Yellow half

Hurry up and make up your mind. I'll have to call AAA to make sure I get the right tour books ordered. LOL

I think we should send Bob up to his smoke stack.

Nedorp drepop Love Bob.

why does Ted get to be buried at Arlington?

#275 | Posted by bph320 at 2009-08-30 10:26 PM

Scroll back up and read post #50.

"Ted Kennedy was a true American hero."

A true hero would tried to get the poor drowning girl out of his car instead of running off to get legal advice

Which color of this map of our country will you be claiming as your half?

Red half or Yellow half

I think Boobistan will be more like my 2012 Presidential election projection Chrissy

img12.imageshack.us

It was Teddy's 'rough' two year tour in Belgium that got him into Arlington, it was his life time of evil and debauchery that is getting him into hell.

#285 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-08-30 10:52 PM | Reply | Flag Believes in Sky Fairies

think Boobistan will be more like my 2012 Presidential election projection Chrissy

[Gimme's map of Boobistan]

#284 | Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch

You map, Gimme, looks like Boobistan will consist of just a couple of states in the Northeast and, of course, my entire State of CALIFORNIA. Why does California always get such a bad rap!


(Trivia fact for you I heard the other day -- Did you know there are more people in California than in the entire country of Canada! )

www.youtube.com

A song for Love Bob/Captain America

285 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-08-30 10:52 PM | Reply | Flag: Believes in Sky Fairies

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-08-30 11:02 PM

Oh good, that means REX is going to be with us in Heaven.

I don't know if God will let Rex play some of his favorite music though. lol!

CC-
If there is a heaven for REX, I'm sure God will let him be an angry adolescent whiner forever and ever.

Boyd, don't you have men's underwear to sniff in another thread?

Rex-
Shouldn't you be posting on your little music thread, and not troubling the adults? Isn't that the stipulation under which RCADE allowed you to crawl back to this blog?

Why does California always get such a bad rap!

Well to be fair if the LA, SD, SF and Sac areas are excluded most folks in CA aren't half bad. I really like the ones in in places like Fresno, Susanville and other redneck locales

Which is why a lotta us pray for the "Big One" to hit only the coast

If you don't like the conditions, Rex, you are free to form your own blog.

LOL.

Kinda hard to sniff anything when your nose, and head might I add, is shoved up Obama's ass.

With Betelg on the prowel, no democratic goberment official has to worry about anything illegal.

Where was Betelg during the evil Bush years? Oh yes, I remember him chanting "Death to Bush".

And now, just peeps from the crickets......as the great white negro transforms this country into something Michelle my belle can be proud of.

BEACHBUZZ-
re: Where was Betelg during the evil Bush years? Oh yes, I remember him chanting "Death to Bush".

Really? No one else does. And since you made it up, that makes you a liar.

Say, BEACHBUZZ, did REX send up a flare, or are you the same person?

www.fearnet.com

Stir, remember this classic movie?

(Not that anyone will believe anything you say, since you lied about the "death to Bush" bit)

That's better, REX. Post your little links.

I doubt the new country would be called Boobistan. The founders might object. Join the millions upon millions of cons who agree with me---I am one of the few liberals who agree with them--hopefully, the numbers of libs agreeing will swell to meet the cons already on board--you DR cons should join your brothers.

www.sonofthesouth.net

www.texasnationalist.com

images.google.com

Beachbuzz-
I think you were going to establish the "Death to Bush" lie, or retract it and STFU. I think that's where we were.

Lil' Betelg...I got the flare from Rex. Anytime you are posting we email each other. That is how much we care about you. You are our SPECIAL little friend. Feel better now lil' Betelg?


Beachbuzz-
I think you were going to establish the "Death to Bush" lie, or retract it and STFU. I think that's where we were.

#302 | Posted by BetelG at

Oh for Gods sake, get a life. You chanted many things over the years and you don't recall "Death to Bush"? I beg to differ. Prove me wrong bitch.

Lil' Betelg...I got the flare from Rex. Anytime you are posting we email each other.

That's apparent.

BTW - wTF is a betelg??

Please advise...

Beachbuzz-
Next time, try to come up with an attack that doesn't involve making shit up. Not that you are currently capable of that, of course, but if you could stretch a little maybe it would be good for you.

It's a star, dumbass.

Adios.

The only thing I reach for when I see Boyd is the small can of roach spray.

Scurry back under the fridge bug.

Maybe you can find a friend there.

Higher Taxes

/b Only for those making more than 200,000 a year--is that you? Even then--I have seen ZERO tax increases for anyone yet. You lie. You hate./br

Really BoOb? He raised the cigarette tax. Who smokes cigarettes? Certainly not the rich. The majority of smokers do not make $200,000 a year.

In a interview Tim Geitner said they (The Obama Administration) was not pulling tax increases for the middle class off the table.

So when I mention higher taxes, it was based on "Turbo Tax" Tim Geitners interview and the fact he did raise cigarette taxes. I also read where he wants to raise social security taxes. Is that not raising taxes?
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Higher unemployment

/b Link? You lie. You hate. /br

www.miseryindex.us

In 2008, we had 5.76 percent unemployment. The last figures I've heard this year is 9.5. This is the highest unemployment since 1983. FACT!
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Crap and Tax

/b A lie with obvious hate. Got a link to any bill called "crap and tax"? You lie--you hate./br

Ok, so I called it like I see it. Sue me! It's really cap and trade. We all know that this is simply a fucking tax. Only a complete moron would look at this any other way. A tax by any other name is still a tax. So Obama lied to you.
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Killing the medical industry

/b You confuse the insurance industry with the medical industry. That is because you are a moron. We are #37 in health care in the world--#50 in longevity--and #1 in health care spending. You lie. You hate. /br

LMFAO, your statistics are not good statistics. The World Health Organization quit doing that ranking system back in 2000. Just because it was that way in 2000 does not make it so in 2009. Nice try though at being intellectually dishonest and factually challenged.
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Killing the oil and gas industry

/b WTF are you talking about? Link? You lie. You hate. /br

What in hell is Cap and Trade about BoOb? It's about making those evil consumers pay or do without because it's bad for the environment. Do I really need to find a fucking link to prove that Cap and Trade is being used as justification to kill off the oil and gas industry?
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Hostile takeover of the Auto Industry

/b The auto industry was going bankrupt without government help--just like Chrysler back in the 80's. Obama saved the industry and saved millions of jobs. The alternative was to let them close up shop and swell the unemployment lines that you seem so concerned about. You lie. You hate. /br

I was against the bailouts. They should have done like every other business that couldn't run efficiently, go bankrupt and sell it off to the highest bidder. Sure they saved the jobs so the UAW can continue to rape them blind. Did the government or any of you liberals or our government give a shit when K-Mart had financial problems? No, they filed for bankruptcy and rallied back to buy part of Sears. They did things the right way and are in a better place because of it.

Lonnie

Lil' Betelg...I got the flare from Rex. Anytime you are posting we email each other. That is how much we care about you. You are our SPECIAL little friend. Feel better now lil' Betelg?

#303 | Posted by Beachbuzz at 2009-08-30 11:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

LOL

The only thing I reach for when I see Boyd is the small can of roach spray.

Scurry back under the fridge bug.

Maybe you can find a friend there.

#310 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-08-30 11:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

LOL, you mean after you email Beachbuzz?!

Totally fucking pathetic.

I'm out.

It's a star, dumbass.

#308 | Posted by BetelG

Must be a famous bathhouse star, because I have never heard of that one.

Nighty, night Starboy!

l17

You miss the point dUmmy. None of that would concern you in your own country.

Join the millions who hate America just as much as you.

images.google.com

www.sonofthesouth.net

www.texasnationalist.com

BTW - wTF is a betelg??

Please advise...

#306 | Posted by Beachbuzz

It's a star, dumbass.

#308 | Posted by BetelG


It's a beautiful star too. Unique and cool name you picked, Betelg.

Betelgeuse

If neither of you have ever seen the "Astronomy Picture of the Day" website where I got this photo, the pictures are breathtaking. Take time to go through them.

BTW - wTF is a betelg??

Please advise...

#306 | Posted by Beachbuzz

beetlejuice

Betelg is actually this guy in real life. He is a stern show regular

He changed his name to fool us a little.

Boyd is a roach.

BuffaloBob

Off topic but could you name two or three cities in Ohio for me to consider taking a look at -- cities which are medium-sized and have nice countryside nearby? Maybe even nearby Amish country but I'd want a city that had all the conveniences. But not some downtrodden huge metropolis if you know what I mean. I'm thinking Ohio weather might not be too bad to deal with if the winters are just average cold with a little snow. Just looking at some more places to consider. Just a couple names will do. Thanks. I'll check back on here later on or tomorrow.

Actually no, you miss the point BoOb. Why should I leave the US? I don't hate it near as much as you. Anyways, I've found that I can stay here and still have it my way even when a (D)ummy occupies the whitehouse. Think of the humor of it, the Dems have a majority of the house and Senate and still can't force Obama care down our throats.

I say enjoy it while you can because you KNOW it will change in 2010. Obama care is the gift that keeps on giving. LMFAO. Maybe with the landscape changing, we'll be able to get rid of the crooks like Charlie Rangel.

Lonnie

Chris - Try Columbus. It's a nice city with low unemployment and low crime. Nice midwest city and home of the OSU Buckeyes! What is your work background? I know a few folks in high places.

Columbus is cold as hell as with all of Ohio. Texas is a better option.

Columbus is cold as hell as with all of Ohio. Texas is a better option.

#321 | Posted by jackass
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Damn, I actually agree with Jackass on something. LOL.

Lonnie

Yet Another Arlington Scum_Bag!!!

WOW!!! Every major CROOK and ASSHOLE in the last 70 fucking years has been buried at Arlington - so its only fitting that another "Kennedy Krook" joins that heinous alumni!!! Hey,may you Burn in Hell for eternity "Kriminal Kennedys" and all the rest of you Atrocious American "Arlington" Scum_Bags!!!

Imagine no John Lennon,
It isn't hard to do,
Now no John or Bobby,
And no Teddy, too.

Imagine all the people,
Pissing on their graves...
You-oooh-ooo might say I'm a dreamer,
But I'm not the only one.
I hope some day you'll join us,
Say goodbye to New England scum!

Chris -

Try Columbus. It's a nice city with low unemployment and low crime. Nice midwest city and home of the OSU Buckeyes! What is your work background? I know a few folks in high places.

#320 | Posted by Beachbuzz at 2009-08-31 12:28 AM

Thanks, Stir. I'll keep the city of Columbus in mind and check it out on the internet and read a little about it in their local papers. If I do move there, I better get up to date real fast on the Buckeyes!

Columbus is cold as hell as with all of Ohio. Texas is a better option.

#321 | Posted by jackass

----------------

Damn, I actually agree with Jackass on something. LOL.

Lonnie

#322 | Posted by lwalk17 at 2009-08-31 12:32 AM


You Texans crack me up sometimes.

You're the first ones to jump up and say "You don't want to move to __(fill in the blank)___ 'cause TEXAS is the best place to live!

And then the Texans' very next line is always -- "Stay away from Texas, it's lousy, you won't like it, don't come here, no jobs, no nothing" -- 'cause you want to keep all the Yankees, libs, and Californicators from moving into your state.

Talk about mixed messages. The Texas welcome seems to be --

"'Welcome to Texas' but don't let the barn door hit you in the ass on your way out which we hope is going to be real soon." LOL

If you feel like shivering 9 months out of the year and scraping ice off your windshield for 6 months of the year, by all means Columbus is the place to be.

You Texans crack me up sometimes.

You're the first ones to jump up and say "You don't want to move to __(fill in the blank)___ 'cause TEXAS is the best place to live!

And then the Texans' very next line is always -- "Stay away from Texas, it's lousy, you won't like it, don't come here, no jobs, no nothing" -- 'cause you want to keep all the Yankees, libs, and Californicators from moving into your state.

Talk about mixed messages. The Texas welcome seems to be --

"'Welcome to Texas' but don't let the barn door hit you in the ass on your way out which we hope is going to be real soon." LOL

#326 | Posted by CalifChris
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Well we'd make an exception for you. I wouldn't say that to you. LOL. I may say it to BoOb and mean it though.

Lonnie

If you feel like shivering 9 months out of the year and scraping ice off your windshield for 6 months of the year, by all means Columbus is the place to be.

Cold isn't that big a problemo with the right attitude try Bismarck ND, Cheyenne WY, Twin Falls ID, Rapid City SD or Billings MT.

Oh wait they don't like liberals, well maybe Burlington VT might suit you better Chrissy

Imagine no John Lennon,
It isn't hard to do,
Now no John or Bobby,
And no Teddy, too.

Imagine all the people,
Pissing on their graves...
You-oooh-ooo might say I'm a dreamer,
But I'm not the only one.
I hope some day you'll join us,
Say goodbye to New England scum!

Laredo is paradise. Plenty of easy broads and cheap rent. What more can you ask for?

"Off topic but could you name two or three cities in Ohio for me to consider taking a look at -- cities which are medium-sized and have nice countryside nearby? Maybe even nearby Amish country but I'd want a city that had all the conveniences. But not some downtrodden huge metropolis if you know what I mean. I'm thinking Ohio weather might not be too bad to deal with if the winters are just average cold with a little snow. Just looking at some more places to consider. Just a couple names will do. Thanks. I'll check back on here later on or tomorrow."

Believe it or not, check out Willard, Fostoria and anything in between. Nice area.

TheTom if Reagan had done the same thing I'd be saying the exact same thing. Lonnie #245 | Posted by lwalk17 at 2009-08-30 08:37 PM | Reply | Flag: liar

Laredo is paradise. Plenty of easy broads and cheap rent. What more can you ask for?

#331 | Posted by jackass
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Jackass, I don't think CaliChriss is interested in easy broads. I could be wrong but she has a kid so she's more than likely heterosexual. But hey, it's a good thing you've already announced your a man whore so she knows to look out for you.

Lonnie

TheTom if Reagan had done the same thing I'd be saying the exact same thing. Lonnie #245 | Posted by lwalk17 at 2009-08-30 08:37 PM | Reply | Flag: liar

#333 | Posted by Newyawker
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and your a fucking idiot so what's your point? I'm at least honest and party affiliations doesn't mean shit when a law is broken dumbass. I honestly don't care if they were a Republican or not. A person is dead, that's all I need to know.

Keep trying to spin but hey if your going to do that why don't you go get yourself a sit and spin that way you can at least have some fun.

Lonnie

Maybe not the easy broads but we have good jobs and great weather. Perfect size city of 200k. Plenty of great shopping and dining.

Califchris

It all depends on what is most important to you--work or the city. Pretty much anyplace in the USA is good if you have a job you like. I would find the job first, and then make the move. If the job isn't a problem, then the city is important. Ohio is effectively a square--from Columbus, it is about 100 miles to any border--east west north or south.

Willard was suggested, and it is a very small town, but a nice place. It is basically a railroad town and my grandfather was an engineer and all my uncles worked for the B&) railroad for years. I used to live there from 82-85, and my mothers family still lives there making up a significant part of the population. it is about halfway between Cleveland and Toledo and the drive isn't too bad. It is close to Cedar Point and a lot of other recreation places like Put in Bay. It is quiet, maybe 10,000 people, but I don't think it is what you are looking for.

Mansfield might be an option--it is located about halfway between Cleveland and Columbus---an hour or so of driving will put you in a major city where you can get anything you like. I grew up in Mansfield, but haven't lived there since high school. It was about 75,000 when I lived there, and I imagine it has grown some since then to maybe 100,000. The job situation is either good or bad, depending on what your occupation will be.

Columbus or the surrounding cities may be your best bet. There are several cities close to Columbus--so close that it is hard to tell where they sdtart and Columbus starts. Dublin is sort of ritzy, as is Bexley and Worthington. You can find any kind of neighborhood you like. Columbus is known as the biggest little city in the US, mainly because of the close feel of the neighborhoods, and the lack of some big city attributes. It is the home of Wendy's and White Castle--so we have the gourmet food market sewn up.

Cleveland and Cincinnatti are Big cities--too big for my taste, but there is always that option.

The weather in Ohio isn't as bad as the reputation--at least for the last 20 years. It snows maybe six or seven times a year, but schools are closed maybe 2 or 3 days a year if that, and the roads are cleared very fast. You would have four seasons. People drive to see the leaves changing every year, which says something about the beauty of the State. The summers aren't too hot, and the air is clear.

I don't think you will go wrong on anyplace you pick as long as you are happy with what you are doing, and are close to people who you like and who like you. Good luck in your church.

I don't think CaliChriss is interested in easy broads. I could be wrong but she has a kid so she's more than likely heterosexual.

I'm not sure that having a kid necessarily classifies a woman as a heterosexual not that I'm suggesting CC is a lez - whoa Chris has a kid? Quick somebody call CPS that chick is either surfing the net or hanging around Home Depot/Loews who's watching the kid?

Disclaimer this is NOT an offer to babysit

Mansfield is a rough town. I do not recommend it.

Chris:

There are some beautiful places in Ohio, as well as Indiana and Pennsylvania if that is the direction you were thinking of heading towards.

I live in a borough of about 1,600 people. We love it here. Bigger cities in both directions down the mountain so if we want to go to a bigger store or to a fancier restaurant for dinner or for better employment, it's about a half an hours drive but we love it here!

Small towns have so many benefits. And it's sooo peaceful!

Good luck in your search!

"Kennedy dove to save her---to say he didn't is to lie--you don't know--you weren't there."

You aren't lying because you believe what you're saying but you are just plain wrong. We don't know if he dove to save her or not. We only know he didn't call the cops and that if he had, she may have been saved according to the diver who pulled her out the next day after fisherman found the car. To a sane person, that puts his whole story into question.

To you, its baaaa baaaaa.

Good luck getting grass to grow over that plot. Even Miracle Grow won't help.

Good luck getting grass to grow over that plot.

I don't know about that. I've had verifiable success in using bullshit to help things grow.

"We only know he didn't call the cops and that if he had, she may have been saved according to the diver who pulled her out the next day after fisherman found the car."

Ted Kennedy was a scuz. I'm not a bit surprised that our little leftist-socialist friends protect their scuzzes though. I mean, after all, they keep reelectin' them over and over. Here's a little item about this particular scuz I didn't know 'til now.

www.forbes.com

Late at night when the crickets are creeking at arlington you can hear the whispers....

(Gee John..... They're Burrying Teddy right next to us........) (That's wonderfull Bobby.... Think he remembered to bring a football? Erraa.... Id love to play some old Kennedy snap and pass.... Nothing like passing the ball down the field for a touchdown....)

(Erra.... Plenty of time for that now John..... )

We only know he didn't call the cops and that if he had, she may have been saved according to the diver who pulled her out the next day after fisherman found the car. To a sane person, that puts his whole story into question.

The DIVER? The NEXT DAY? So who was this diver? Dr Noguchi? What could he see that gave him anuy indication she wasn't dead within minutes of hitting the water? How about a link to THAT bullshit---I haven't heard that the DIVER did an autopsy. If she was alive for an hour or so after going in the water--she could have saved herself---the water was only 8 feet deep

To you, its baaaa baaaaa.

To you it is to believe anything--any bullshit that shows Kennedy in a bad light--no matter how bizarre. The DIVER? But let's see your link.

#341 | Posted by Taint at 2009-08-31 10:18 AM | Reply | Flag

Ted Kennedy was a scuz. I'm not a bit surprised that our little leftist-socialist friends protect their scuzzes though.

#344 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2009-08-31 10:31 AM | Reply | Flag

Says the guy who protects the pedophile HW Bush.

she could have saved herself---the water was only 8 feet deep

It is simply in comprehensible that people still defend Kennedy's actions that day. This is by far the most bizarre thing I've ever heard: She could have saved herself?

bOoB, would you be defending Bush so vociferously in an identical situation? I didn't think so.

Shill.

BTW, 8 feet of water has about 3 lbs/in^2 of pressure. There would be dozens, if not hundreds of square inches of the door. That makes it tens of pounds of pressure -- very possibly over 100 lbs -- it would take to open the door. Maybe a man could do it (one did), but a weaker woman? Especially one who may have been dazed by the impact?

Right. She could have saved herself. You're sick, bOoB.

Beefers normally wouldn't join a political frey of this nature... But the guy screwed it up real bad back in 1969..... Beefers has seen many theories on this issue... The most realistic being that Ted was not in the car and that Maryjo drove off of the bridge without ted knowing... They were doing it in the car but almost got cought and ted got out and ran.... he knew that island like the back of his hand so he probably would have not driven off of the bridge... mary Jo on the other hand was unfamilure.... Hey Buffolo Bob.... Here is your link....

article.nationalreview.com

PS.... From all of the photos I have seen... The drivers side window was open...... Not sure why she stayed in the back seat..... Had she felt around it may have saved her life.... she probably panicked.... Though she seems to have survived for a while in the car until the air ran out.... If the drivers side window was open... It wouldn't support teds claim that he dove several times to try to free her.... My guess is that he walked back to the party and she drove away.... Ted not wanting a scandle after sexing it up a little with the young woman....

Doesn't matter now anyway... He is probably having a hell of a time running passing plays with his bros..... And sailing the stars......

Beefers says to the Senator, Good Night Sweet Prince.... Say hello to Jack, John and Bobby

I went back to ohio
But my pretty countryside
Had been paved down the middle
By a government that had no pride
The farms of ohio
Had been replaced by shopping malls
And muzak filled the air
From seneca to cuyahoga falls
Said, a, o, oh way to go ohio

Pretenders - My City Was Gone

"What could he see that gave him anuyindication she wasn't dead within minutes of hitting the water? "

That she had pushed herself into an air pocket in the car. Said she could have had up to 2 hours in there and that if he had been called right away, saving her would have been a real possibility.

If you'd of stopped smoking DNC pole for a few minutes you may have seen it earlier as the story has been posted on this thread at least twice already.

Beefers

The link seems rather biased, and makes several unfounded statements. If Mary Jo was conscious, why couldn't she get out the same way Kennedy got out? Either the door or the window was open, so the water pressure wouldn't have been a factor---I doubt Kennedy closed the door after he got out--if he used the door---and if he used the door, the water would have rushed in, equallizing the pressure for someone else to be able to open it. If he used the window--most likely in July---the window would still have been open and she could have gotten out that way.

Most likely she was knocked unconscious, and drowned within minutes--air pocket or no air pocket. If she had an air pocket and was conscious, she would have known the air was running out, and she would have known how Kennedy got out and made a desperate last attempt to get out the same way. How the diver could tell anything is the real question. Exactly what was the position of the body that could tell him she lived for quite some time? That there was an air pocket does not mean she was conscious enough to take advantage of it. Did the two guys Kennedy brought back to the scene dive?

If the car was completely submerged when Kennedy escaped--I doubt he could have opened the door. As soon as the door was opened--water would have rushed in preventing any escape until the current stopped and the pressure equalized. Then both could have escaped at the same time--if she had been conscious. I think she was unconscious, and drowned within minutes. I also think Kennedy should have grabbed her on his way out. That Kennedy made mistakes is clear--but he paid for it the rest of his life. It cost him the Presidency, which without this incident, he would most likely have won, and he had to face the hatred of people like those on this thread his whole life. Put Kennedy up against Hitler or Manson, and he would be voted the worst by the people on this thread. Even though they support pedophilia in their own ranks. Go figure.

That she had pushed herself into an air pocket in the car. Said she could have had up to 2 hours in there and that if he had been called right away, saving her would have been a real possibility.

#351 | Posted by Taint at 2009-08-31 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

So--how did Kennedy get out and why couldn't she get out the same way? Why didn't she leave when Kennedy left?

Kennedy is a murderer. A dead one, thank god.

Most likely...blah blah blah

Most likely in your opinion, right? LOL

I guess we'll never know since that POS coward waited 9 hours to get someone to help and got a lawyer to cover his ass instead of saving the person in the car.

Incredible.

I wonder if da bOoB would be going to these lengths to apologize for Bush if he was in an identical situation and killed a woman like Kennedy did?

Not only that, 101, but Kennedy argued for the right of "africanus americanus" (as you describe them) to vote, which makes you really hate him.

Not only that, 101, but Kennedy argued for the right of "africanus americanus" (as you describe them) to vote, which makes you really hate him.

#356 | Posted by BetelG at 2009-08-31 01:52 PM | Reply

Kennedy was a fool, but even he knew the africanus americanus was dumb enough to vote in lockstep for the pandering dems.

So--how did Kennedy get out and why couldn't she get out the same way?

You still blaming Mary Jo? LOL

Presumably Kennedy, being a healthy 30 something YO male was stronger and could overcome the pressure on the door.

Or maybe she was dazed from a hit on the head from the fall. Do you really have to ask such stupid questions to defend this murderer?

He dump a woman in the drink and left her to die. Deal with it.

101-
You can keep digging with your racist crap. It's invisible to the other conservatives on this blog, so you needn't fear that anyone but a liberal will challenge you on it.

Good afternoon to all the "real" Americans on this blog, and have a good day...

Beefers is not here to argue but Buffolo Bob has a question...

If Mary Jo was conscious, why couldn't she get out the same way Kennedy got out?

Beefers doesn't know.... Have you ever been up side down in a car under water?

I went through helicoptor crash training in the Marine Corps and almost half of the guys in my class has to be helped out of the up side down chair and then out of the pool on the first dunking.... That is with you seat belted in... I could imagin it is a little harder when your not and your head hits the roof on impact.

Thus..... Beefers thinks your question is a silly one....

Why didn't she get out of the car? Beefers doesn't know.... Maybe a broken arm or two? Broken Legs? Injury to the neck? nobody knows because there was never an Autopsy on the woman....

Guess the righties here will chime in and call that the old Kennedy Special....

Nuff Said

So--how did Kennedy get out and why couldn't she get out the same way?

She was probably dazed from the fall. She wasn't wearing a seat belt when found.

Why didn't she leave when Kennedy left?

She was dazed and disoriented and Kennedy the coward wouldn't help her out, that's why.

Regardless of why she didn't/couldn't get out of the car, the fact remains Kennedy DID get out and did nothing.

I went through helicoptor crash training in the Marine Corps and almost half of the guys in my class has to be helped out of the up side down chair and then out of the pool on the first dunking.... That is with you seat belted in... I could imagin it is a little harder when your not and your head hits the roof on impact.

Very good point. As an offshore worker, I am required to go to emergency helicopter egress training every two years. I"ve mentioned that here before.

When they drop you in the water and turn you upside down, you are very disoriented. You don't know what is left or right or up or down. That is why they train you to keep your hand on the window and the opposite side of your seat. I can attest first hand that if you don't do that you will not know where you are.

Presumably Mary Jo had no such training.

Why does da bOoB blame the victim? I guess that's what people do in that imaginary other country of his and jackass's. Glad I don't live in bOoBistan

You can keep digging with your racist crap.

#360 | Posted by BetelG at 2009-08-31 01:58 PM | Reply

Why is the truth always racist when it makes limpwristed dems like yourself feel "icky"?

Is the africanus americanus a lockstep voter or not? What percentage of them vote Dem? See if you can muster the courage to answer, boy.

Now Bush is a murderer ...

And da bOoB's last act before going under for the third time is the predictible deflection to Bush. lOL

Of course, Mary Jo could have had a cerebral concussion, but TK could not possibly have been disoriented by having the same.... as the medical report says he did.

One thing is for sure, no one here knows what happened.

One thing is for sure, no one here knows what happened

And, with all parties concerned now dead, no one ever will.

-Is the africanus americanus a lockstep voter or not?

Yeppers. Who would vote for people that passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

They must be insane, eh?

I went through helicoptor crash training in the Marine Corps and almost half of the guys in my class has to be helped out of the up side down chair and then out of the pool on the first dunking.... That is with you seat belted in... I could imagin it is a little harder when your not and your head hits the roof on impact.

I can understand the initial confusion---but the allegation is that she had two hours---enough time to understand the severity of the situation and make some attempt to escape. She was in a car--not a maze, and would have known the exit points--chances are the way Kennedy escaped was still available. Do you think the guys in your class would have had any trouble escaping if they had two hours of oxygen?

Thus..... Beefers thinks your question is a silly one....

I think your answer is silly--so we are even.

Yeppers. Who would vote for people that passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

They must be insane, eh?

#370 | Posted by Corky at 2009-08-31 02:14 PM | Reply |

Spare me. How many africanus americanus' even know what that is? Looking at their education levels, and the drop out rate, I'd hazard a guess at around 2%. I'll bet you at least 90% couldn't name the VP.

And here I thought your racism was a joke, Betty.... now I find that it is you who are the joke.

Fact is Kennedy affected everyone of the populace's tax rate to a upward spiral. While he was able to utilize his connections (political or legal) to circumvent paying his share. Rave on how good he was when you see less and less of you hourly salary to be spent by a Government who cannot control their spending.

Hey GoatMan....

Beefers wants to know if they are hiring for offshore work.......

And here I thought your racism was a joke, Betty.... now I find that it is you who are the joke.

#373 | Posted by Corky at 2009-08-31 02:19 PM | Reply

Again, you can just see the "hurt" when anyone dares mention inconvenient truths about the state of the african american.

What is the drop-out rate? Are you, like Boyd, uncomfortable with the FACT that they are as a whole uneducated? Who is at fault for that? Certainly not "racists".

"One thing is for sure, no one here knows what happened."

We know that Kennedy never called emergency services for help. We know he didn't report it the next day.

We know that nobody is really so fucking ignorant as to believe that there is any logical reason for Kennedy to not have done so. So we know that his apologists are willfully stupid.

One thing is for sure, no one here knows what happened.

Um, actually we do know what happened. Kennedy got himself out of the car, waited 9 hours, and called a lawyer before he called for help.

Didn't you hear that part, corky?

Call me crazy, but it seems to me if someone is too disoriented to call for help they would be too disoriented to call a lawyer.

I'll ask you the same question that I asked the other Kennedy defenders, but won't answer. Maybe you'll be the first, corky: Would you be giving Bush the same benefit of the doubt if he was in an identical situation? Or would you be here calling for his head on a platter?

One thing is for sure, no one here knows what happened.

#368 | Posted by Corky

I think we can all agree that Maryjo got fucked.

I can understand the initial confusion---but the allegation is that she had two hours---enough time to understand the severity of the situation and make some attempt to escape.

And da bOoB continues to blame the victim.

So your assertion is that it is not possible for someone to be dazed and confused for two hours?

ANd there is still that little thing about pressure on the door. I know you hate facts that concern physics and math, but they still exist. There could have been more pressure on the door than she could fight. Sorry, it's just a fact whether you want to admit it or not, bOoB.

Now continue to blame the victim and apologize for poor misunderstood teddy, scum

Beefers wants to know if they are hiring for offshore work.......

Yes

I think your answer is silly...

Of course you do, bOoB. It contains that thing you hate the most . . . FACTS!

LOL

We try not to spend too much time wondering if Laura accidentally hit and killed the boyfriend who jilted her, or if she rather hit the accelerator extra hard when she saw him coming.

The medical report says TK had a cerebral concussion, which could have disoriented him for hours. That happened to me in an auto accident, which I described up thread.

This is all just a convenient outlet for haters.

The medical report says TK had a cerebral concussion, which could have disoriented him for hours.
Posted by Corky

Funny he could find his way back to Lawrence Cottage. Of course he had a Tom-Tom to guide him, right cork?

We try not to spend too much time wondering if Laura accidentally hit and killed the boyfriend who jilted her, or if she rather hit the accelerator extra hard when she saw him coming.

Is a deflection to a teenage no name girl the best you can do? That somehow compares to a drunken senator who left the scene of an accident for 9 hours and called a lawyber before he called for help.

LOL

If you can't deflect better than that, please just keep quiet. I'm gasping for breath from the guffaws, corky.

#385

Actually, I found my way back to South Mass thru the Boston subways with no memory of having done so.

The medical report says TK had a cerebral concussion, which could have disoriented him for hours.
Posted by Corky

But da bOoB says, "---but the allegation is that she had two hours---enough time to understand the severity of the situation and make some attempt to escape (post 371)

So two hours was enough time for Mary Jo to regain her composer, but it wasn't enough for Teddy? WTF?

You apologists sicken me. I don't think I've ever seen more blatant proof of koolaid drinking sheep than I see in the Kennedy defenders of Chappaquiddick.

People who weren't there but who know everything that happen.... there are black holes in the universe that shed more light.

Funny he could find his way back to Lawrence Cottage. Of course he had a Tom-Tom to guide him, right cork?

#385 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-08-31 02:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

People have been known to drive and not known about it after head injuries. People have gone to work and carried on conversations with people, and later had no recollection of the day or the conversations. The people who saw them and talked to them said they seemed quite normal. Of course you are a brain specialist---so it has nothing to do with bipartisanship. Maybe HW Bush hit his head before he butt fucked those 8 year old girls, so he has an excuse also.

... and less ignorant hatred.

hey goatman....

Beefers wants to know what you do off shore.....

Maybe HW Bush hit his head before he butt fucked those 8 year old girls, so he has an excuse also.

#390 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Do you bang your noggin on a daily basis, or is it the twilight years that make you look so god damned foolish?

People have been known to drive and not known about it after head injuries. People have gone to work and carried on conversations with people, and later had no recollection of the day or the conversations. The people who saw them and talked to them said they seemed quite normal.

not possible in your case.

the head injury had to be obvious.

Do you bang your noggin on a daily basis, or is it the twilight years that make you look so god damned foolish?

#393 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-08-31 02:50 PM | Reply | Flag

There are eyewitnesses, Newspaper accounts, Books written, and victims who are alive and capable of testifying. Should I post them AGAIN? Support your local pedophile--if he is a republican. Party above country--right W is God?

"Says the guy who protects the pedophile HW Bush."

Buffaloed_Boob's mind works in such simple ways: If you disliked Ted Kennedy then you had to have really liked Bush. If you liked Ronald Reagan then you had to have hated JFK...right, Boob? As many times as I've told him I wasn't fond of Bush, he still doesn't get it. I disliked Bush for president and I surely dislike Obama as president even more. Is that a concept that his muddled brain can process or does everyone think he's a psychriatrist's dream.

Beefers wants to know what you do off shore.....

I am an ET

#396 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2009-08-31 02:59 PM | Reply | Flag

You have no idea what I think shit for brains. Talking out your ass is a hobby you should give up.

the check's in the mail

i won't come in your mouth

don't worry, mary jo, i'll be right back

Support your local pedophile--if he is a republican. Party above country--right W is God?

#395 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Between Corky focusing on Laura, and you on H.W., did either of you hear that Ted died?

You have no idea what I think shit for brains.

We can't even tell IF you think. The odds are against it.

the check's in the mail

i won't come in your mouth

don't worry, mary jo, i'll be right back

Buffalo_Bob takes all his medication as directed at the Retirement home.

#399 | Posted by snu_snu

People who weren't there but who know everything that happen....

I know he left the scene waited 9 hours and called a lawyer before he called for help. Also, it seems strange he had the presence of mind to extricate himself from the car, but not to seek help. I guess those head bump things turn themselves off and on at just the right time?

Corky, you never answered my question: would you be defending Bush under the exact same circumstances?

At the most he would have been guilty of vehicular manslaughter--not murder. Now Bush is a murderer of hundreds of thousands of men women and children. It must have come from his father--the guy who sold terrorists weapons so they could kill nuns and other innocents, while he was butt fucking 8 year old girls.

#359 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob
----------------------
BoOb,

Did it ever occur to you that maybe she didn't know how to swim? I guess not.

Also, your forgetting that YOUR messiah is still continuing those wars. There is no proof that Bush did any of that. At least no credible proof. Your Bush Derangement Syndrome is still working overtime.

So when are you and jackass going to start living together? LMFAO. You can't be happy when Republicans are outnumbered and they are still kicking your party's ass. BTW, I didn't notice where any of the Drudge ladies said they would join you. Guess you could realize your dream of gay marriages.

Lonnie

"... and less ignorant hatred."

The people spewing the most of the hateful bile on this thread are Teddy's apologists. The can't talk in facts so they resort to personal attacks, deflections, strawmen and outright lies.

Hey Goatman.... Beefers wants to know what the heck is an ET?

What do you do Off Shore?

"Events of the night of July 18, 1969
According to his own testimony at the inquest into Kopechne's death, Kennedy left the party at "approximately 11:15 p.m." When he announced that he was about to leave, Kopechne indicated "that she was desirous of leaving, if I would be kind enough to drop her back at her hotel". Kennedy then requested the keys to his car from his chauffeur, Crimmins. Asked why he did not have his chauffeur drive them both, Kennedy explained that Crimmins along with some other partygoers "were concluding their meal, enjoying the fellowship and it didn't appear to me necessary to require him to bring me back to Edgartown".[3] Kopechne told no one that she was leaving with Kennedy, and left her purse and hotel key at the party.[4]

Christopher "Huck" Look was a deputy sheriff working as a special police officer at the Edgartown regatta dance that night. At 12:30 am he left the dance, crossed over to Chappaquiddick in the yacht club's launch, got into his parked car and drove home. He testified that between 12:30 and 12:45 am he had seen a dark car containing a man driving and a woman in the front seat approaching the intersection with Dike Road. The car had gone first onto the private Cemetery Road and stopped there. Thinking that the occupants of the car might be lost, Look had gotten out of his car and walked towards it. When he was 25 to 30 feet away, the car started backing up towards him. When Look called out to offer his help, the car took off down Dike Road in a cloud of dust.[5] Look recalled that the car's license plate began with a "L" and contained the number "7" twice, both details true of Kennedy's 1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88."

(Here is where kennedy said he dove to try to save Mary Jo, went back to the cottage to get help, came back with two men who also dove to get Mary Jo, and decided to go "report the accident.")

"According to his own testimony, Kennedy swam across the 500-foot channel, back to Edgartown and returned to his hotel room, where he removed his clothes and collapsed on his bed.[12] Hearing noises, he later put on dry clothes and asked someone what the time was: it was something like 2:30 a.m., the senator recalled. He testified that, as the night went on, "I almost tossed and turned and walked around that room ... I had not given up hope all night long that, by some miracle, Mary Jo would have escaped from the car."[13]

Back at his hotel, Kennedy asked someone what time it was at 2:30 and complained at 2:55 AM to the hotel owner that he had been awoken by a noisy party.[2] By 7:30 am the next morning he was talking "casually" to the winner of the previous day's sailing race, with no indication that anything was amiss.[2] At 8 a.m., Gargan and Markham joined Kennedy at his hotel where they had a "heated conversation." According to Kennedy's testimony, the two men asked why he hadn't reported the accident. Kennedy responded by telling them "about my own thoughts and feelings as I swam across that channel ... that somehow when they arrived in the morning that they were going to say that Mary Jo was still alive".[13] The three men subsequently crossed back to Chappaquiddick Island on the ferry, where Kennedy made a series of phone calls from a payphone by the crossing to his friends for advice.

NOTICE...He left the party at 11:15 and arrives WET at his hotel about 2:30. At 2:55 he tries to establish an alibi. ALL that stuff takes place in about 3 hours. Also notice he did all that WITHOUT that fuckin' neck brace.

READ MORE...
seekingalpha.com

Beefers has been looking at Buffolo Bobs posts and has seen other folks get banned from the site for less..... But they were all Right leaning folk.... Doesn't matter to me because I never lean either way..... Both parties are a scam.....

Politick seems to have modeled itself after Religon..... I quit going to church because it always seemed that God was short on cash...

Same with the two Moneygrabbing parties in the gobermunt.........

Beefers thinks he saw an article today that said that 57% of the American voters would vote all Congressmen out of office if elections were held today..... Hope they still have a memory come 2010...... At least we can Hope.....

Beefers thinks you all should check out www.goooh.com for an alternative to the madness of the two party scam system.....

Nuff Sed........ Beefers OUT!

Of course you do, bOoB. It contains that thing you hate the most . . . FACTS!

LOL

#382 | Posted by goatman
-------------------
Goatman,

He is offended by facts. I listed facts and he started whining like a little kid that just got his butt smacked.

Lonnie

"There are eyewitnesses, Newspaper accounts, Books written, and victims who are alive and capable of testifying. Should I post them AGAIN?"

No need, Boob...just read what your "lion" testified to under oath.
Incidently, while I have you here, I have a fine factory for sale on Venus if you're interested. It could do the surplus manufacturing your factory on the moon can't handle.

seekingalpha.com

Jest, does the factory sale include a lifetime membership into the National "Save Bigfoot" society?

ET = Electronic Tech

I fix, install, maintain, whatever all the 'little wire' stuff on the rig -- phones, computers, PLCs, control systems, drilling equipment, subsea, BOP, etc..

The Electricians do the 'big wire' stuff -- lights, motors, pumps, refrigeration, etc.

now beefers knows

Beefers is not anti Kennedy in any way..... However, when Beefers read this...... His extensive experience in law enforcement told him that it sounded like a bunch of Bull Dinkey Moose to him.......

tKennedy had already told Gargan and Markham not to tell the other women anything about the incident "[b]ecause I felt strongly that if these girls were notified that an accident had taken place and Mary Jo had, in fact, drowned, that it would only be a matter of seconds before all of those girls, who were long and dear friends of Mary Jo's, would go to the scene of the accident and enter the water with, I felt, a good chance that some serious mishap might have occurred to any one of them".

Beefers thinks...... For a guy with a concussion MR. Kennedy sure was allowed to make a lot of decisions..... Also they left the party at 11:15 and were seen parked at 12:45 by a copper..... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... Beefers thinks.......... Hanky Panky was going on......!

Has the Senator ever stated what the heck he was doing in the car for an hour with the young 29 year old Mary-Jo? I bet MRS. Kennedy was more than upset..... Judging by the photos of her at One of the Senators statements..... If looks could kill, There's no doubt Mrs. Kennedy could have joined the ranks and been right there along side the likes of MR. Oswald and the Grassy Knoll Shooters.......

Beefers doesn't know if you folks have ever fooled around in a car in the summer time as a young person.... The windows tend to get fogged up a bit.... Perhaps that is how MR. kennedy failed to realize where he was and drove off of the bridge.....

Anyway..... Beefers wants to see if he has this right..... MR Kennedy stated that he returned to the party after diving in the water seven or eight times..... Then goes on to state that he didn't want to alert the other woman at the party that an accident had taken place......

Beefers is thinking.............. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... Wouldn't the Late Senator have been dripping wet and getting water all over the floor when he returned to the party???

And Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... Why didn't any of the other woman notice him dripping wet.......

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The other two gentlemen returned to the party dripping wet from their attempts and were never noticed?

Beefers halts........ Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Are these the stupidest women you have ever heard of or what?

Beefers says thank you Goat Man....

Beefers works for IBM and would love to work off shore...

Beefers has a certificate in Electronics technologies..... E = I over R type stuff..... Or Gates.... Nor gates.... And Gates... Nand Gates.... Caps.... Resisters..... Wire???

Snort.... Spit.....

Beefers would like to know where to apply?

Beefers has a certificate in Electronics technologies..... E = I over R type stuff..... Or Gates.... Nor gates.... And Gates... Nand Gates.... Caps.... Resisters..... Wire???

Ohm's law sounds like big wire stuff. I don't do much gating, though I know them, of course. Some of such stuff in PLCs.

Beefers would like to know where to apply?

All kinds of companies out there. Go to:

rigzone.com

Are these the stupidest women you have ever heard of or what?

I don't know. But I have a feeling they all came into a lot of money all of a sudden that month.

"Beefers is thinking.............. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... Wouldn't the Late Senator have been dripping wet and getting water all over the floor when he returned to the party???

And Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... Why didn't any of the other woman notice him dripping wet.......

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The other two gentlemen returned to the party dripping wet from their attempts and were never noticed?

Beefers halts........ Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"

I can see this is gonna require Beefers to petition Buffaloed_Boob for a well-reasoned and in depth explanation for these extremely unusual circumstances. The Boobster excels at these events and may even explain to you the factories on the moon and the fake moon landing at the same sitting.

Does Beefers ever get jumped by hoodlums? If so, ask Buffalo_Bob about the fine art of defending one's self with a car antenna. Beefers will be kicking ass and taking names.

Before I exit this thread, I'd like to thank corky and da bOoB for one of the finest displays of blind partisanship I have witnessed in a long time. Especially to you, bOoB. To date, I have not seen anyone blame Mary Jo for her own death.

For that the coveted Kool-aid cup award is proudly presented to you!

But you have to hurry and drink it up. The flock misses you and you have new marching orders to pick up.

Beefers has never been jumped by Hoodlums.... Though in the event he does.... Well..... Perhaps he could just bash them over the head with BuffoloBob.........

Snort Spit.......

Ted's dead? How can you tell? Oh...by the adulation poured on him by the public channels. How ABC, CBS and NBC (and FOX) fawn over his career...

"American Aristocracy"...in a country that was FOUNDED ON THE PRINCIPLE THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY...."Royal family of America" ( forget that JFK was a bed hopping druggie that was once married to a russian spy during the height of the cold war - or that they traded Marilyn Monroe as if she was a baseball card and lead to her death (Murder?) ....or that almost EVERY bill Teddy passed was a complete failure - you hate your HMO? Blame Teddy...it was his bill that set them up!!)

Camelot!...where the War in Vietnam was hatched, the Bay of Pigs was plotted and where we almost all died because of his wimp attitude toward the Soviets (like our current president toward the islamists) emboldened them to put in missiles.

And Teddy who lied about Kopecnick, caught with teenage pages, drunk on his ass numerous times, the "stupid one" as his father called him.

A whole family who's wealth was based on eluding the law during Prohibition - the Al Capones of Boston.

Yet you all swoon over this amoral, drunken, lying, stupid corrupt politian. Good for you...have a nice roasting in hell with the rest of your family Tedsky.

#423 | Posted by foshaffer | Flag: One Too Many Harvey Wallbangers

It must tear you rightists up to see the nation mourning for Kennedy, and realize that only hate mongers like yourself bash him after he is dead. Your hate has marginalized you from the rest of the human race.

It must tear you rightists up to see the nation mourning for Kennedy, and realize that only hate mongers like yourself bash him after he is dead. Your hate has marginalized you from the rest of the human race.

Hey, bOoB -- you forgot to add "two countries" LOL

W is God

If so, ask Buffalo_Bob about the fine art of defending one's self with a car antenna.

#420 | Posted by W is God at 2009-08-31 04:34 PM | Reply | Flag

Says the guy who thinks W is God. I stand by my statement that a car antenna is a more effective weapon for defense than a gun you can't get to. Maybe you should tell beefers the advantage of having a gun in your pocket when the bad guy has his gun pointed at you? I hope you have the courage to carry a gun, and that sometime you are faced with that situation. My advice? Go for it---he won't shoot, and you'll be a hero on the news.

#423 | Posted by foshaffer at 2009-08-31 05:08 PM | Reply | Flag Believes in sky fairies

Says the guy who thinks W is God. I stand by my statement that a car antenna is a more effective weapon for defense than a gun you can't get to. Maybe you should tell beefers the advantage of having a gun in your pocket when the bad guy has his gun pointed at you? I hope you have the courage to carry a gun, and that sometime you are faced with that situation. My advice? Go for it---he won't shoot, and you'll be a hero on the news.

#427 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Guns are illegal in Wisconsin, so I doubt I'll ever run into someone carrying one. Ain't that how it works in Leftyville?

It must tear you rightists up to see the nation mourning for Kennedy, and realize that only hate mongers like yourself bash him after he is dead. Your hate has marginalized you from the rest of the human race.

#425 | Posted by Buffoon_Boob


Well I'm sure you have firsthand knowledge of how it feels to be marginalized from you fellow humans by virtue of your Lunar Smokestacks, 9/11 BS and most fucked up of all the bald-faced lie that Geo H W Bush is/was a prepubescent female pedophile.

The last one is the one the really makes me want to bitchslap you outta your fucked up little bizarro world for your own sake.

Gimme, look out. If Bob has a thin bulge in his pocket, it isn't because he's happy to receive the attention....

W is God

Guns are illegal in Wisconsin, so I doubt I'll ever run into someone carrying one. Ain't that how it works in Leftyville?

#429 | Posted by W is God at 2009-08-31 08:01 PM | Reply | Flag

No second amendment in Wisconsin? The two country system has already started. You can still worship W can't youY Then I guess my point about car antennas being a better defensive weapon than a gun you can't get to is especially true in your state.

The two country system has already started

I've been meaning to ask -- how are thing working out for you and jackass in bOoBistan, anyway? Have you decided to split that country in half yet, too? In case you are worried -- you two are not missed here in United Staes of America.

Then I guess my point about car antennas being a better defensive weapon than a gun you can't get to is especially true in your state.

#432 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Yeah. I just saw 3 blacks holding up the local shell station with a antenna. I even held the door open for them when they walked into the Shell Station with that back window from a 2004 Camry. What could I do? Run back home for my boom box and get in the middle of it?

Well I'm sure you have firsthand knowledge of how it feels to be marginalized from you fellow humans by virtue of your Lunar Smokestacks, 9/11 BS and most fucked up of all the bald-faced lie that Geo H W Bush is/was a prepubescent female pedophile.

The last one is the one the really makes me want to bitchslap you outta your fucked up little bizarro world for your own sake.

#430 | Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch at 2009-08-31 08:05 PM | Reply | Flag

I don't normally respond to your idiocy, but you have presented me with an opportunity I just can't pass up--mainly because it is sure to piss you off. Let's take them in order.

I would say that the people who think that the Smokestack on the moon is a magic, appearing and disappearing, moving smudge on a still picture in 1/6th second are the ones who are marginalized. I don't claim to know what it is--I just say it is there, and the source is NASA and NOVA. Tell us about how the smudge got on the still picture, how it moved, faded, and disappeared in 1/6 second. Waiting on you ;-)

www.youtube.com

As far as the "9/11 BS" goes--again, you are marginalized. The majority of the public does not believe the lies put out by the Bush regime. 67% agree with me--only 27% agree with you. I guess it is because they can read and think.

www.msnbc.msn.com

But the last one is the one that is best. The newspaper stories--the eyewitness account--the killing of the former head of the CIA who was investigating--the books written--the victim accounts who are ready to testify. But you keep on supporting your pedophile president.

Book About Bushs Pedophilia

Another Book About Bushs Pedophjilia

www.amazon.com

Still Another Book About Bushs Pedophilia

www.youtube.com

www.propagandamatrix.com

www.propagandamatrix.com

Website about Bushs Pedophilia

OMG BoOb is using a site called propaganda as one of his reliable sources. BoOb you hate as well. I'm sure most of the sources you used the writer/web host is wearing a tin foil hat. LMFAO. OMG that's too fucking funny.

Lonnie

BoOb,

Call me when your 911 truther buddies get 70% of structural engineers to agree with you. LMFAO. Your are so fucking gullible it's funny.

Lonnie

Lonnie-
When you and your "global warming is a hoax" buddies can also get 70% of the world's climate scientists to agree with you, then I'll stop considering both of you to be ignorant fruitcakes.

Oh....LMFAO

I don't normally respond to your idiocy, but you have presented me with an opportunity I just can't pass up--mainly because it is sure to piss you off.

#433 | Posted by Buffoon_Boob

Thanks for the response Boob it's always a pleasure to find the right buttons to push with you. Wheeew change that Depends will ya it's really stinking up the joint

Betelg,

Your just trying to be a copycat because I told BoOb to get 70% of structural engineers to agree with his stupid 911 was an inside job beliefs.

It still doesn't change the fact the truthers are a bunch of kooks as apparent since BoOb endorses them.

Anyways, there should be a poll out there to figure out how many idiots endorse global warming. I think might makes right and I don't think you have as many loons as you think you do.

Lonnie

Lonnie-
The 9/11 truthers are definitely a bunch of kooks. But you're a kook too, by your own standards.

Your just trying to be a copycat because I told BoOb to get 70% of structural engineers to agree with his stupid 911 was an inside job beliefs.

#439 | Posted by lwalk17 at 2009-08-31 10:00 PM | Reply | Flag

Here's 700 who agree. Where's YOUR list? Waiting on you.
;-)

patriotsquestion911.com

OMG BoOb is using a site called propaganda as one of his reliable sources. BoOb you hate as well. I'm sure most of the sources you used the writer/web host is wearing a tin foil hat. LMFAO. OMG that's too fucking funny.

Lonnie

#434 | Posted by lwalk17 at 2009-08-31 09:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

LOL---yuou just proved your blind partisanship and your support for a pedophile. How about if we throw the propaganda site out and just use what they linked to? It helps when you cklick on the lnks---otherwise you look like the tool you are.

Washington Times Reports on HW Bush Pedophilia.

Obviously BoOb, it says you only got 29 structural engineers. 29 does not = 70%.

I'm sure I can find more than 700 people who disagree with you.

Lonnie

Nobody is explaining about that magic, appearing and disappearing, moving smudge on a still picture in 1/6th second? What's the matter boys? Cat got your tongue? Waiting on you.

;-)

Obviously BoOb, it says you only got 29 structural engineers. 29 does not = 70%.

#443 | Posted by lwalk17 at 2009-08-31 10:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

I missed YOUR list--waiting on you.

;-)

#337 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-08-31 03:56 AM

Thanks, BuffaloBob, I appreciated you taking the time to write some quite interesting info about Ohio.

I ordered an Ohio tour book/map from AAA today so I could take a look at it. Thanks again.

Geez, did'nt anyone ever tell you not to bring an antennae to a gun fight? You know the old saying, I would much rather have a gun and not need it, than not have a gun and some fucking lib attacks me with an antennae. No brainer, point and squeeze.

#447 | Posted by rightnut at 2009-08-31 10:37 PM | Reply | Flag WTF?

WTF are YOU babbling about? Who would take a car antenna to a gunfight? Lay off the anti-freeze.

Chris:

There are some beautiful places in Ohio, as well as Indiana and Pennsylvania if that is the direction you were thinking of heading towards.

#340 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-08-31 05:31 AM

I don't know if you've been to Ohio (or if you like folk music), but I've always liked this song by Joan Baez. For many her music is an "acquired taste" (i.e. -- they can't stand her!) as her singing can be mournful and sad, butI like a few of her songs when I'm in the mood. Sorry this youtube quality is so scratchy. It's the only one they had.

"Banks of the Ohio" - Joan Baez

Another account of how the accident occurred:

...On July 18, 1969, Kopechne attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island, off the coast of Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts, held in honor of the Boiler Room Girls. It was the fourth such reunion of the Robert Kennedy campaign workers."

"Kopechne reportedly left the party at 11:15 p.m. with Robert's brother Ted Kennedy, after he according to his own account offered to drive her to catch the last ferry back to Edgartown, where she was staying. She did not tell her close friends at the party that she was leaving and she left her purse and keys behind."

Kennedy stated he made a wrong turn on the way and came upon a narrow, unlit bridge without guardrails. Kennedy drove the 1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88 off the bridge and it overturned in the water. Kennedy extricated himself from the submerged car but Kopechne died, after what Kennedy said were several diving attempts to free her...."


NOTE: In my opinion, Ted Kennedy's alleged account above that he was driving Mary Jo Kopechne to catch the last ferry back to Edgartown because she intended to go home had to be a lie. NO WOMAN would have left her purse and her car keys behind at a party -- not if she planned on going home and not returning.

LINK TO ABOVE ARTICLE

Are you suggesting he kidnapped her?

People focus more on this than on 911. Why is that?

Obviously BoOb, it says you only got 29 structural engineers. 29 does not = 70%.

#443 | Posted by lwalk17 at 2009-08-31 10:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Actually, it represents 100%---still waiting on your list.

Waiting on you.

;-)

Obviously BoOb, it says you only got 29 structural engineers. 29 does not = 70%.

#443 | Posted by lwalk17 at 2009-08-31 10:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Actually, it represents 100%---

There are only 29 structural engineers in the US? Wow. I'm surprised. Did you read that in The Onion?

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