A large group of about 70 to 80 villagers, rounded up by the 1st Platoon in the center of the village, were killed personally by Calley and by soldiers ordered to fire by Calley. Calley also shot two other large groups of civilians with a weapon taken from a soldier who had refused to do any further killing.

All I can say is that his apology should never be accepted and I don't know how this guy sleeps at night.

All I can say is that his apology should never be accepted

When ever I talk to my dad or brother about atrocities like these(all through history)they say "well that's the way it was done.

I don't know how this guy sleeps at night

They don't

I saw Lt Calley once at a BBQ place in Columbus GA. My dad pointed him out to me.

Sounds like he did his time.

a conviction of 22 counts of murder generally doesnt allow the criminal to go out on the rotary speaking circut. No he didnt do his time. He is a shameful example of a product of the USA

Conduct unbecoming of an officer.

A disgrace; how did 6-year-old girls qualify for the Vietcong?

As damaging to America at the time as Jane Fonda and Walter Cronkite

He is a shameful example of a product of the USA
.......#5 | Posted by Georgeisadrunk

......how about the rest of the one and a half million Viet Namese who were killed because LBJ made up the fake Gulf of Tonkin Incident ?.....

......Viet Nam.....like Iraq.....was a war that we had no business prosecuting.....it wasn't our fight....and in the end we killed more than a million people and got nothing to show for it except a diminished democracy.....

As damaging to America at the time as Jane Fonda and Walter Cronkite

Damaging to the part of America hellbent on waging a waste of a war... by the way, Fonda and Cronkite never murdered anyone.

This story was posted earlier here....

As damaging to America at the time as Jane Fonda and Walter Cronkite
......#6 | Posted by vernon

......Jane Fonda was among many who understood that the Viet Nam war was immoral....(all he pro-lifers will differ with me on this, they think that killing a million and a half people for being communists is a good idea, oh the irony of the irony-deprived !)...and her notariety made her actions a headline at the time.....

....but Walter Cronkite spoke the truth to America.....

....sorry.......didn't see the earlier post......

interesting that someone would apply the same standard to an individual and a country that bills itself as the font of freedom and democracy as well as "justice for all"

...but Walter Cronkite spoke the truth to America.....

#9 | Posted by skizziks at 2009-08-22 10:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Tet Offensive was a dramatic defeat for the communists. The VC were virtually destroyed and the NVA was in major retreat.

It was at this point of American victory that Cronkite pronounced the war 'unwinnable.'

The most trusted man in America became a political hack, giving aid and comfort to the enemy -- at the moment of American triumph.

That is the 'truth' you cling to

by the way, Fonda and Cronkite never murdered anyone.

#8 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-08-22 10:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

Not directly, perhaps.

But they gave America's enemies plenty of encouragement to kill Americans -- plus Vietnamese who might agree with them

But those are all brown people, and to a true Liberal, brown people are only tools for debate

brown people are only tools for debate
#14 | Posted by vernon

"The Code de Vermin"

"The Tet Offensive was a dramatic defeat for the communists. The VC were virtually destroyed and the NVA was in major retreat."

Yeah, and the Iraq war was only going to take..."at most six months." The truth about Vietnam was the they would never have surrendered, it would still be going on today if we had stayed there. Much like Afghanistan will be for today's leaders to finally have to come to grips with.

"But they gave America's enemies plenty of encouragement to kill Americans -- plus Vietnamese who might agree with them"

99% of those "brown people" had no idea what Cronkite said or even who he was, much less Jane Fonda. Those Vietnamese needed no encouragement to fight for their own country and to expel the American invaders, any more than did the Afghans who finally expelled the Russians and who will eventually expel the Americans. Cronkite only pointed out the futility of fighting to control a country which the natives did now want controlled by foreigners. He probably saved thousands of American lives by convincing Americans that the war was futile and that we needed to leave. We lost 58,000, how many more would have been enough for you Vernon????

#13 | Posted by vernon | Flag: Flunked History 101

the vietnam war was a terrible defeat for the united states. maniacal politicians cant win wars

by the way, where the hell are those WMD. Brownie?

by the way, where the hell are those WMD. Brownie?

#20 | Posted by Georgeisadrunk

"Don't Call Me Brownie ~ Whitey!"

Just getting the Tet Offensive thing squared away: it was a military (tactical) debacle for the VC, and military (tactical) debacle for the NVA (though less so than for the VC); it was a military (tactical) victory for the US and whoever among the ARVN it could get to actually fight; and, that said, it was a longterm (strategic) victory for the VC and especially the NVA an da longterm (strategic) disaster for the US and the ARVN because it blew away the carefully created and manipulated smokescreen of official predications about (a) how the war was going, (b) the capabilities of the enemy, and, in general, the unsustainable lie that the war was being "won."

As for Calley, My Lai occurred 41 years ago, so I guess he's had more time to ruminate about it than his victims ever did.

Of course the actual culprits who ORDERED this massacre of this second lieutenant, never spent a day in the shadow of what they did.

Calley's plight as scapegoat is what created the Winter Soldier testimonies by over 100 Vietnam vets, attempting to show support for Calley by pointing out that these atrocities were in large part DIRECTED from above.....

Sound familiar? Now we KNOW that Abu abuses were also DIRECTED and the peons forced to carry it out were the only ones held accountable.....

Seem right to you folks?

"Gee fellas .... I sure am sorry about all that killing your kids, burning your houses, and slaughtering your livestock stuff .... So, this means, we're cool, right???"