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Friday, August 21, 2009

The states that have been most skeptical of President Barack Obama's agenda for health care reform also have some of the highest levels of uninsured people in the nation, according to a new study by Gallup.

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The Gallup study, "Uninsured; Highest Percentage in Texas, Lowest in Mass.," can be found here: www.gallup.com It contains these tables: "Ten States With the Lowest Percentages of Uninsured Residents," "Ten States With the Highest Percentages of Uninsured Residents," and "Uninsured by State, 2008 and 2009," as well as a map showing percentage of uninsured adults by state. (That one really drives home the point.)



Basically, the ten states with the lowest percentages of uninsured residents (lowest to highest percentage -- running form a low of 5.5% to a high of 12.2%) are:

Massachusetts
Vermont
Minnesota
Hawaii
Delaware
COnnecticut
Pennsylvania
New Jersey
New YOrk
Rhode Island

The ten states with the highest percentages of uninsured residents, listed in order from highest percentage uninsured (26.9%) to lowest (20.7%):

Texas
New Mexico
Mississippi
Louisiana
Nevada
Oklahoma
California
Wyoming
Florida
Georgia

you have waaay much time on your hands..

Your inability to actually deal with the subject of the thread simply underscores a basic point: you really should devote more of your time to getting better informed.

you have waaay much time on your hands..

#4 | Posted by nmg_no

Yeah. A 10-second web search is simply a monstrous amount of time.

Hey, when that squawk box at Jack in the Box squawks Nmg_No gotta hop to it.

Thomas Franks's What's the Matter with Kansas provides some good inight into the bait GOP pols and their corporate masters use to keep the sheeple working against their own best interests. It's not spot-on with respect to the health care Big Lies but definitely related. The current goings on -- with respect to the use of the Big Lie principle -- will provide plenty of grist for the mills of thems what's interested in matters political and historical.

funny boys, funny... (actually the Jack in the Box was pretty funny) (except we don't Jack in the Box here in Atlanta that I know of)..

Some of you fellows without jobs and nothing productive to do, go search this.. which states are people moving to? Or in other words, voting for with their feet?

This old man told a lady, "I'm so old, that I can't even remember how old I am" She said "listen, take off all of your clothes and bend over, and I'll tell you how old you are." So he did, and she said "you are 84 years old" "How in the world did you know that" She said, "you told me yesterday" Henny Youngman



Search it yourself, Nmg. You've obviously got plenty of time on your hands.

Moving to another state is a vote, of sorts, but it does not necessarly mean one is departing an intolerable socio-politico situation. All sorts of factors come into play: age, weather, income, taxes. Because people move to states that have low taxes and shitty infrastructures doesn't mean they think they're moving to the Land of Milk and Honey. I daresay many of us are living in states we'd rather not be in because of our jobs, families, etc.

Anyway, you do the googling, Nmg, and report back when you've got it put together. We'll be waiting.

Relax Doc.. must be hard walking around puckered like that all the time. Go watch some Simpsons episodes, or maybe read Wealth of Nations.

(except we don't Jack in the Box here in Atlanta that I know of)..

I think there is one over on the west side somewhere. I vaguely recall looking it up when the commercials started playing in the area.

Moving to another state is a vote, of sorts, but it does not necessarly mean one is departing an intolerable socio-politico situation. All sorts of factors come into play: age, weather, income, taxes.

However the states seem to reflect values of the majority of people that live there which include the people that have moved there. This is more evident, of course, at the county level. For a good example of this look at Florida.

A lot of illegal immigrants in those states. Maybe they should move to Vermont and Massachusetts, where they are better appreciated, and the good citizens there can provide health care through municipal systems. And everyone wins!

Doubtful though. Massachusetts big pilot program is already deep in the red. Medicare does a worse job of controlling costs than anyone, but libbies believe that once the US Congress annexes one seventh of the economy, they'll somehow get better at it.

Vermont and Massachusetts? I think you'll find the labor laws don't allow quite for as widespread an abuse of the undocumented and lately-arrived labor force as in most of the states listed in #3.

LMAO. Yes, I'm sure that Vermont and Massachusetts have done an excellent job of shutting down the "undocumented". Which is why Obama's aunt has been living in public housing in Mass for decades, even though she's illegal.

No, most illegals don't head toward the Northeast for the same reason most of us don't--the weather sucks.

"However the states seem to reflect values of the majority of people that live there which include the people that have moved there."

Coincidentally the "values of the majority" seems to be directly connected to the educational level of that majority. The states with the highest rates of uninsured just "coinidentally" are also some of the least educated populations. 'Tis much easier to get the uneducated to vote against their own interests.....the unspoken "secret" which is the base political strategy of the Republican party.

No, most illegals don't head toward the Northeast for the same reason most of us don't--the weather sucks.
#15 | Posted by rightisright

NYC?

Since most uninsured people probably aren't the ones opposing the healthcare plan, why would this matter?

Good point Joe.

In other news, the majority of college students think they don't get enough financial aid.

Coincidentally the "values of the majority" seems to be directly connected to the educational level of that majority.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2009-08-21 11:12 AM | Reply | Flag: ATTENDED MISSISSIPPI PUBLIC SCHOOLS

ATTENDED MISSISSIPPI PUBLIC SCHOOLS
#20 | Posted by vernon


"Attended Mississippi public schools," Vermin grunted, as the Taipei gendarme shoved his well-polished mahogany nightstick perilously close to the expat's fat ass which, while momentarily encased -- albeit only momentarily, for the threads kept up a-popping as they surrendered to the inexhorable, minute-by-minute, moment-by-moment production of new fat cells which, joining existing fat cells, caused many of the Chinese with whom he came into contact to call him both behind his horizontally extensive backside as well as to his face (for, contrary to his endless boasting, the expat's linguistic facility in the tongues of English, gibberish, gobbledygook, and jabberwock eluded understanding by all but the terminally conked and a handful of meth tweakers with whom he was wont to spend what he called "quality time") "Fat Ass Little Lice-Bearing Noodle Boy" which, even allowing for certain idiomatic undertones and overtones did not translate into what Vermin thought they were saying --well, the fat ass not so much encased as trapped within his signature black-and-white checkered Pinky Lee pantaloons, perfectly matched by the similarly decorated sartorial excellence of his tattered Pinky Lee jacket and beanie, with the propeller hanging akimbo due to the previous evening's contretemps with the night watchman at the children's reformatory down by the river. "Attended Mississippi public schools," Vermin croaked, as he reached ever so carefully into his jacket and, under the watchful eyes of the justifiably suspicious gendarme, removed and with two stubby fingers stained with nicotine and opium, smelling to the highest of the high heavens of stale Krispy Kreme Doughnuts, Spam, Tobasco Sauce, Double Bubble Bubble Gum, and wormwood-laced Kool-Aid, held out for inspection his prized possession: the calculator, on which he proceeded to punch in the numbers he thought necessary to call the U.S. Embassy for assistance.


Good point Joe.


In other news, the majority of college students think they don't get enough financial aid.

#19 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-08-21 11:47 AM | Reply |

Post pictures of your ass, would be a better deflection.

The people from the South and most conservative states and those with the most elderly populations are the ones believing these lies about healthcare reform. These states from the south have a less educated population, and the elderly are generaly more vulnerable to changes in the medical care if you lie to them or get them excited. Its in the Republican Play Book to win elections. More conservative people tend to get more excitable and believe things more often without facts and researching it. And so this is why the Republican Party is scaring the elderly. They try and do this every election to get there vote and it works most of the time. Free Speech unfortunatly allows lieing in this country.


The ten states with the highest percentages of uninsured residents, listed in order from highest percentage uninsured (26.9%) to lowest (20.7%):


Texas
New Mexico
Mississippi
Louisiana
Nevada
Oklahoma
California
Wyoming
Florida
Georgia


These states are also the mecca for illegal immigration, so my first question has to be: did anyone bother to check the immigration status of those polled?

How come libbies always want to check out my ass?

Well, maybe a lot COULD be accomplished merely through better regulation of insurance companies in regards to health care.

But Republicans won't do this. Any arguments?

#26 | Posted by Zed

Your messiah's 2 top aides recieve MILLIONS from insurance companies, GO FIGURE

Hope and Change

SUCKERS

"How come libbies always want to check out my ass?"

Well, you're always showing it so it's really no trouble.

"How come libbies always want to check out my ass?"

Because its More Appealing than Your Face!?

Sincerely

Andrew Dice Clay

Your inability to actually deal with the subject of the thread simply underscores a basic point: you really should devote more of your time to getting better informed.

#5 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS AT 2009-08-21 08:37 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

All i have to say is

OH SNAP!

I have a theory about these sort of findings.

If the major radio station in an area follows a country music format, the more likely you will see these sort of poll results.

well country music does = stupidity. I think you have a good theory going.

The country music may not be the cause but it is an indicator of a under lying mind set.

#32

Country music expresses life, feelings, emotions and passions.

Are a few lyrics silly? Sure!

But let me know when you find lyrics in rap, heavy metal to be intelligent!

*nother stupid lyric comes to mind "a one eyed flying purple people eater" or how ever it goes.

Yep...the epitome of intelligence!!

Uh Lisa, they smartest and most meaningful lyrics are in metal/alt music....

You haven't been paying attention to them.

Here is exhibit #1 'VNV Nation', the best lyrics and most meaningful songs ever written.

www.youtube.com

Listen to this ablum and then see what you think...

"well country music does = stupidity"

au contraire...


www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

Or this one......

'Illusions'

#34 Lisa

Does Tool count as metal? Do Atmosphere, Common, or Lupe Fiasco count as rap? If any of them do indeed, then I must disagree.

Though we may not agree on music, we probably both agree on this: fuck Favre and his ego-dipshit ass.

I guessed Texas had the highest rate of uninsured in the country without even looking at the stats first. There is more dumb asses in Texas then all the other states put together. It must be all the oil pollution affecting their brains.

There is more dumb asses in Texas then all the other states put together.

We know how to conjugate verbs, though. Should be "There are more dumb asses...

The reason there are so many uninsured, however, has something to do with the fact that the Messiah can't control the borders, either, and we have more illegal aliens than any other state. They, of course, do not buy insurance.

But hey! Don't let a bash Texas moment slip by you. You sour grapers are a hoot with your version of Texas and I appreciate the laughs.

"the Messiah"

The streak continues, unbroken....

Even the illegals who have the opportunity to buy health insurance through work don't do it. When I got laid off in 2001, I baked bread for HEB (Texas grocery chain) for three years. We had a lot of illegals working there. One of the bakers, a wetback, had a pregnant wife. I commented that he was lucky he had insurance through the company. He told me that he didn't opt to buy it (~$20/week) because all he had to do was go to the emergency room.

"the Messiah"

The streak continues, unbroken....

Hey, Messiahs are several orders of magnitude above chimps on the societal ladder, and I can't say "chimp" because that is racist.

What would be a good name (in the manner of the left calling Bush a chimp) for Obama?

Least Insured States Oppose Health Care Reform

Well duh!


If I don't have to pay for it now why should I have to pay at all?

"We know how to conjugate verbs, though. Should be "There are more dumb asses..."

Damm, that's prissy!

Are you sure you ain't queer?

We know how to conjugate verbs, though

Heh, that's funny.

Well, when the argument is lost, and all you have left is the dick in your hand, the losing party can only attack you spelling or grammar.

"Should be "There are more dumb asses..."

You mean, "It should be, "There are more dumb asses..."

We know punctuation and grammar rules in Hawaii, but we no like use 'em, bro.

You know what they say in Texas? Never slap a man who's chewin' tobacco.

You know what they say in Texas? Never slap a man who's chewin' tobacco.

They do? I never heard that. And I've lived here most of my 53 years.

What does that mean, anyway?

Are you sure you ain't queer?

Pretty sure. Is understanding grammar a sign of homosexuality? If so, maybe I am.

We know punctuation and grammar rules in Hawaii, but we no like use 'em, bro.

Where in Hawaii do you live?

What does that mean, anyway?

How the fuck should I know. I heard it from an old goat roper from Galveston. He was the one who chewed tobacco. I only chew wacky tobaccy! Can't ya tell?

Where in Hawaii do you live?

South Point, USA

South Point, USA

Is that on the big island? That's what I got on a google. If so, cool.

I went to the big island twice when I lived in Hawaii. It is so beautiful there (the whole state) but I couldn't live there. I like being able to get in my car and drive 500 miles in one direction. After a year in Hawaii, I was going stir crazy. The beauty of the state and lovely beaches kept me sane, though.

We got three things on the Big Island that Texas doesn't have, the biggest cattle ranch in the US, the biggest subdivision in the world and the biggest mountain in the world if you measure from the the ocean floor up. Look it up someday.

"What does that mean, anyway?"

How the fuck should I know. I heard it from an old goat roper from Galveston. He was the one who chewed tobacco. I only chew wacky tobaccy! Can't ya tell?

#52 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009-08-22 02:31 AM


I looked it up. Apparently it's a Will Rogers quote. But I don't know what it means either.

"Never Slap a Man Who's Chewing Tobacco"

Here on the Big Island you can get in a car and drive a million miles on the same road without turning around, but your right. I miss the change of scenery you get on the mainland.

I've been through Texas half a dozen times. I loved the bar fights in Dallas every night at ten sharp, then everybody sits around licking their wounds and buying each other another Lone Star. Beats tippin' cows.

And election after election, the residents of these same states continue to vote against their own self interests and then afterwards they sit around blaming others for the situation they find themselves in.

OCU

Look it up someday.

I don't need to. I know it's true

I loved the bar fights in Dallas every night at ten sharp..

I was born and raised in the Metroplex. You must've gone to different bars than I did. I've seen maybe two or three bar fights.

One thing I never could figure out about Texas. Every time I ever drove through the state all I ever saw was desert and sage brush, I mean for over a thousand miles, but I'm always seeing these awesome pictures of Texas countryside with lakes and streams and wildlife on the web and TV. Where the hell are they all? Do they just roll them like a carpet up every time I visit?

#61 -- you should have left west Texas. East Texas is thick piney forests. S Central is the beautiful hill country. The panhandle has the high desert (different that the Sonoran desert you describe) with canyons. N Central Texas is the open plains and rolling hills. SE Texas of course is the beach and marshes/dunes that accompany them.

One thing I never could figure out about Texas. Every time I ever drove through the state all I ever saw was desert and sage brush

I thought you said you were in Dallas? There is no sagebrush type envirionment there.

Well we ran into some good hootch there, and that was in the early 70's, if I remember correctly. So, shit, excuse the fuck out of me. I could have been in Roswell for all I know.

Well we ran into some good hootch there,

Likewise I ran into good stuff in Hawaii. That Kona bud was almost as good as thai stick we got overseas. To date, though, I've never had anything better than that thai stick we got back in the '70s

I was born and raised in the Metroplex. You must've gone to different bars than I did. I've seen maybe two or three bar fights.

Well, in them days I couldn't afford them uptown bars, iffin' ya know what I means. Beer was $.50 and during happy hour Lone Star $.30 with a pork rind chaser. If ya'all got shot (see, I know the local jive) there was no emergency room. You had a choice, Doc Bourbon and his stout wife with a smirk or Willey Tequila administered by some Mexican farmer's daughter with a smile.

Trust me, I was hopen' to get shot when I met the daughter.

thai stick

No kidding!
memories

Well, in them days I couldn't afford them uptown bars, iffin' ya know what I means

Me either. Now I can, but I still don't go to them.

Beer was $.50 and during happy hour Lone Star $.30 with a pork rind chaser.

The Astrodome used to have nickel Lone Star beer on the first Thursday game of the month. My uncle hated baseball, but would go just for the beer.

To get back on track, Hawaii has one of the most liberal health care laws in the country and I can get reasonably affordable health insurance even for a few employees. The type of 'socialized medicine' that the republicans complain about the most has been law for decades in Hawaii and everybody benefits. Only the hospitals and clinics are cash short because government won't take responsibility for their own mandates. If government traded just a small part of the defense budget for health care, there would be less bodies to repair and less disease to corral.

If government traded just a small part of the defense budget for health care, there would be less bodies to repair and less disease to corral.

Amen

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