A second gun at this townhall meeting. This makes the 3rd or 4th reported incident so far. So I ask the same question today as yesterday: Why?

"""So I ask the same question today as yesterday: Why?"""

Not to be paranoid, but with the level of confusion and anger emanating from the right coupled with the blowhards that distort reality on a daily basis in the media, the question is starting to look like: when?

must not happen under any circumstances...

HOWEVER>..its a known fact that the media is now underway on an attempt to set up something like this from appearing to happen.
just look at efforts by cnn when they use nazi images on protestor reports.
and dont for one moment think the staterun media is above this...

CNN...also now has policy according to reports to now allow any more talk show hosts on the air........Im sure they really mean CONSERVATIVE talk show host

the SCAM grows.......

#3 | Posted by afkabl2

Yay. And we never landed on the moon. And JFK was shot by Martians. And AFK really was abducted by a UFO. The conspiracies are true. AFK isn't paranoid, he's right!

But what if it comes out that he's a union guy who'd campaigned for Obama? And that gun was meant to intimidate or harm those opposed to Obama?

Still a moron who contributes to the problem, but not the solutions.

I was sure my post would bring out cospiracy deniers and I understand
problem is..IF IM right...noone here would have the manhood to admit it..

town hall meeting??

bullshit
LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES from a fuckin LIAR

look at the end of yesterdays nooner to see proof of one lie about not busing in supporters..

But what if it comes out that he's a union guy who'd campaigned for Obama? And that gun was meant to intimidate or harm those opposed to Obama?

Still a moron who contributes to the problem, but not the solutions.

#6 | Posted by kanrei at 2009

say what you will but you cant deny
violence only began when the union thugs and goons were called out.

Not true AFK. Violence has been lurking under the radar all along and neither side brought it, but neither side has tried to stop it. Each side blames the other for the violent thoughts in the air and it is only a matter of time before violent thoughts become violent deeds.

i have found the whole of the problem, here it is:

"its a known fact that the media is now underway on an attempt to set up something like this from appearing to happen."

#8 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-08-12 11:43 AM | Reply | Flag:Was on vacation during the napolitano report.

"LURKING UNDER THE RADAR"

these are your words.........thats not the same as the seiu lady punching the protestor in the face who was filming or the seiu punks knocking down a man named gladney

and ichiro

its a fact that can be seen on cnn almost any night

well except when they are still on the michael jackson case..

Yes, those are my words. Your point? Those are violent acts, but not the violence I am speaking of and you know it. Each side needs to stop blaming the other side for the rhetoric and try to control their own for once. If both sides do that, we can have a civil debate. Of course, they won't...

the problem part 2, uncovered, is clearly a lack of...

"noone here would have the manhood...."

..."manhood".

so there you have it, all told:

its a known fact that the media is now underway on an attempt to set up something like this from appearing to happen. ... ...noone here would have the manhood...."

Would that have changed peoples' views of a possible motive?

#5 | Posted by OohRah

No.

but bud..
lurking under the radio is not the same as the acts of violence perputrated BY THE UNION goons who dont even try and hide thier affliation by putting seiu on thier backs...

We can thank our radio and TV hosts for fomenting this dangerous climate. The entire Fox News Cast, Rush and Savage are tools of Facism. Well paid Agents for Corporate rights over Human Rights. Pots calling the kettle black.

Umm.....AFK, no one is talking about radio.

I meant radar....you know that......but nice use of that mistake...lol

Thank you =D

So I ask the same question today as yesterday: Why?

Some people on the right are playing with fire in the extreme way they talk about the president. It's scaring up a lot of nuts.

Since the gun was in the vehicle, I have a hard time thinking he was there to do harm to anyone. Some people who carry leave their guns in their car.

and while we are at it on hosts

just heard a clip from yesteryear

"MISTER BUSH YOU ARE A RACIST. WHY DONT YOU JUST GET A TSHIRT THAT SAYS RACIST ON IT"

kieth olberman....

no..nothing inflammatory about that is there??

NOooooooooooooooooooo

sorry about caps

wasnt yelling...
just used for emphasis

Since the gun was in the vehicle, I have a hard time thinking he was there to do harm to anyone. Some people who carry leave their guns in their car.

#22 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009

sorry sir but you are not allowed to use common sense while the left is doing all it can to demonize oppenents here or any part of the staterun media....

and IF in vehicle..did police have probable cause to search..
or was it like getting scanned at airport...

Thank you =D

#20 | Posted by kanrei

HEY I can at least show my appreciation for a white house shill even here.......LOL he said with a smerk on his face

Since the gun was in the vehicle, I have a hard time thinking he was there to do harm to anyone.

Unless he was casing the place to see where he could get in with his gun.

and IF in vehicle..did police have probable cause to search..
or was it like getting scanned at airport...

#25 | Posted by afkabl2

A. He was inside the school and had a pocket knife.
B. I would imagine the Secret Service routinely checks ALL vehicles within a certain distance from where the President will be.

Libs are getting violent when it comes to Americans exercising their freedom of speach. People need to be able to protect themselves.

Libs are getting violent when it comes to Americans exercising their freedom of speach.

Carrying a loaded unlicensed gun to a presidential appearance is not freedom of speech.

People need to be able to protect themselves.

#30 | Posted by justanoversight

From...?

here's one for ya:

UNION goons who dont even try and hide thier affliation by putting seiu on thier backs...

...you absolutely certain those particular individuals are actually members? no, you're not, are ya. what are their names?

get that record i mentioned and some grass and stop watching TV.

where's the stick. ;-P

i'm going outside, the graphics are still amazing.

Unless he was casing the place to see where he could get in with his gun.

#28 | Posted by rcade at 2009-08-12 12:07 PM

But the Dems have a vested interest in making it seem like these protestors are violent and want to kill the president, so carry on.

This is true. They are hoping to create the impression that anyone who opposes the Health Bill is going to shoot someone so that they can dismiss those who oppose them with a clear conscious. WE see it here all the time. Remember everyone who questioned the war in Iraq was in bed with Saddam?

But the Dems have a vested interest in making it seem like these protestors are violent and want to kill the president, so carry on.

#34 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

No one did that, LoD. But this isn't the only instance of people showing up at these things with guns. This is just the first time when the President was going to be present.

2 people with loaded guns within a few yards of where the President is going to be should be a little unsettling to most folks.

Sana,
The first thing I would have to know is the percent of residents of Portsmouth, N.H. that are armed and how common is it to keep a gun in your car. There are places in Florida where every other car has a gun rack for example, so to find that someone forgot they had a gun would not be so unheard of as in other areas.

The second thing I would need to know is if this guy was protesting or supporting. The simple truth is that there is not enough information to even begin guessing as to intent here.

. He was inside the school and had a pocket knife.
B. I would imagine the Secret Service routinely checks ALL vehicles within a certain distance from where the President will be.

#29 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

it makes perfect sense and they should do whatever it takes to protect him.

"A man arrested at the scene of President Barack Obama's visit to Portsmouth, New Hampshire Tuesday was found to be in possession of a loaded, unlicensed gun, SeaCoastOnline reported late Tuesday night."

In New Hampshire:
There are no state licensing requirements for the purchase of any rifle, shotgun or handgun.

There are no state licensing requirements for the possession of rifles, shotguns or handguns.

It is unlawful to carry a loaded handgun in any vehicle or concealed about one's person without a license.

Exceptions to the above prohibition are:

* Carrying in one's dwelling, house or place of business.

* Law enforcement and military personnel when on duty.

* Organizations authorized by law to purchase or receive firearms.

A person may carry a handgun openly upon his person or unloaded and exposed or locked up in a vehicle without a license to carry.

People need to be able to protect themselves.

#30 | Posted by justanoversight

From...?

#32 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at

from a liar who I have just proved was a liar on the nooner..sure not protect as in 'get away from me or Ill fire'
but to protect the country from becoming just another socialist european country...

UNION goons who dont even try and hide thier affliation by putting seiu on thier backs...

...you absolutely certain those particular individuals are actually members? no, you're not, are ya. what are their names?

get that record i mentioned and some grass and stop watching TV.

where's the stick. ;-P

i'm going outside, the graphics are still amazing.

#33 | Posted by ichiro at 2009-08-12 12:14

IN the news EVEN ON CNN...at st louis one of the large black men had SEIU in yellow on the back of a black shirt........

so I THINK thats sort of like more than a hint...

from a liar who I have just proved was a liar on the nooner..sure not protect as in 'get away from me or Ill fire'
but to protect the country from becoming just another socialist european country...

#40 | Posted by afkabl2

So that requires carrying loaded guns to meetings where the President is?

And you wonder why I asked you yesterday if the guy was one of yours????

No one did that, LoD.

#36 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-08-12 12:22 PM

Further, the first instance was a guy legally allowed to carry (not concealed) who was on private property and law enforcement didn't seem to see a problem with it.

This is true. They are hoping to create the impression that anyone who opposes the Health Bill is going to shoot someone so that they can dismiss those who oppose them with a clear conscious. WE see it here all the time. Remember everyone who questioned the war in Iraq was in bed with Saddam?

#35 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-08-12 12:22 PM

He was arrsted for a pocket knife? Then they searched his car because he had a pocket knife?

And you are all calling the right Nazis....

The gun was out in the car... Probably never intended to use it and they couldn't convict this guy if Obama himself was the jury.

If he made an incriminating statement it might fly but otherwise he will be out by the end of the week. The constitution still is in effect. Unless he actually made it known that he meant to harm B.O. He is not guilty of a damn thing aside from an unregisterd hand gun. If Obama drove in a motorcade down broadway in harlem NYC you would have to arrest thirty percent of the black folk on the side walk lining the street based on this.

Further, the first instance was a guy legally allowed to carry (not concealed) who was on private property and law enforcement didn't seem to see a problem with it.

#43 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

And, one more time, I never argued that the first guy didn't have a "right" to carry that gun. My question was WHY. For what purpose do you carry a gun to within a few yards of where the President will be, while carrying a sign that is symbolic of justifying violence against those in power?

So as I said yesterday, having the right to do something does not make it the right thing to do.

I got called to jury duty and forgot I had a pocket knife on my keychain when I showed up. No panic or worry. They took my knife and I entered the building. I picked it up on my way out. Most people who carry knives daily I would say forget they are not allowed to carry it everywhere and screw up sometimes.

#37

Is it correct that in general New Hampshire folk, lib or con, like their guns? Still, it's the freaking President; gotta be a little more tight on the security. I'm not going to protest this arrest or try to use this as fuel to the "conservatives are crazy" fire. That fire's burning fine and strong as is, anyway.

He was arrsted for a pocket knife? Then they searched his car because he had a pocket knife?

And you are all calling the right Nazis....

The gun was out in the car...

#45 | Posted by bashthis

And the car was in the parking lot right next to the school. I think one can justify the authorities checking out any and all vehicles adjacent to a location where the President will be.

But kudos on being the first to use the "N" word on this thread.

New Hampshire is the Mississippi of the North.

So that requires carrying loaded guns to meetings where the President is?

And you wonder why I asked you yesterday if the guy was one of yours????

#42 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at

bullshit

you are making that up....

and you know it...I meant to protect us from getting his socialist policies into laws we have to live under...you KNOW good and well thats what I meant....
and to prove that just scroll back and read my sincere wishes they do whatever they need to do to keep him safe...

not even a GOOD TRY bud

If that were Reagan in there, instead of say,
a black President, the Secret Service would have had
the guy slammed down on the pavement with pistols
pointed in his face, and he would have been hauled away...

shameful. Gun Laws (must not) include the right to wear firearms to events where the President is at...
for reasons of National Security...

the Secret Service NOT acting aggressively in this situation is just begging for more such occurrences like this to happen.

usually i respect gun laws to a certain point...
not in this case...the President is "unique citizen"
in the Republic...

frankly...all handguns and guns of all types should be banned from "public demonstrations" as they are apt to be used when peoples tempers flare anyways...

just common sense

And, one more time, I never argued that the first guy didn't have a "right" to carry that gun. My question was WHY. For what purpose do you carry a gun to within a few yards of where the President will be, while carrying a sign that is symbolic of justifying violence against those in power?

So as I said yesterday, having the right to do something does not make it the right thing to do.

#46 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-08-12 12:37 PM

But I wouldn't be surprised at all if this guy leaving his gun in his car was just a case of stupidity and carelessness. In which case, tying it to some notion of violence in these protests is bull shit, unless more information comes out that the guy knew he had the gun there, intended harm or intimidation, etc...

The first guy may have been trying to be scary and intimidating with his gun, and the sign he was carrying would support that, but he was one out of how many people that have attended these protests?

The people shouting and getting rowdy are hardly "violent" even though the Dems would like to paint them all as that. Rude, obnoxious, but not violent.

I got called to jury duty and forgot I had a pocket knife on my keychain when I showed up. No panic or worry. They took my knife and I entered the building. I picked it up on my way out. Most people who carry knives daily I would say forget they are not allowed to carry it everywhere and screw up sometimes.

#47 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-08

I did the very same thing once....I forgot all about it and had to let them keep it for me
lost of instances where famous people have shown up in airport with something in cases...and they werent accused of plots to kill anyone

they must keep him safe but to demonize this guy and all
and OF COURSE the staterun media will take this and RUN with it to mean we all on the dissenting side want to harm him and thats just not true

I want to watch as the truck drives up to the back of the whitehouse and moves his shit back to chicago and watch it in 2012.........or I guess it would be 2013

New Hampshire is the Mississippi of the North.

#50 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2009

horseshit bias and prejudiced comment that adds nothing to the debate..

""conservatives are crazy" fire. That fire's burning fine and strong as is, anyway."

Did I miss something? Who stated that the guy was a conservative?

Or a Nazi for that matter.....

jefferson's statement about watering was not justification for anything... He was more than likely stating the way it is in the world... Tyrants are almost always eventually countered. "Every now and then"

What the hell is this guy thinking? An assassination wouldn't accomplish anything! You'd still have Biden, Pelosi, Byrd, Clinton, and Geithner to deal with.

#56 Bash

I'm not saying the guy is conservative, but some might try to still use this incident, twist it a bit, to attack conservatives.

Who said the guy was actually there to assassinate anybody?

It keeps getting better and better in this room.

Apparently facetiousness is lost on BASHTHIS.

When they nabbed him he had a small knife on him and the gun was out in his vehicle.

Just Details....

- The Left

But what if it comes out that he's a union guy who'd campaigned for Obama? And that gun was meant to intimidate or harm those opposed to Obama? What if the perp had been black? Would that have changed peoples' views of a possible motive?

#5 | Posted by OohRah

nice play.

MEDIA WATCH

TONIGHT ON hannity

euro who warned us before on health care to be back

lIBS..

WATCH IT IF YOU DARE...

you know whats hillarious

a fools fool is afka
or formally bushlover2

this man consistently calls obama a socialist tyrant

while at the same time spewing is love for bush jr.

or as some called him king george II.

stop whining cry baby.

Who said the guy was actually there to assassinate anybody?

This link might help the Left understand a little more how some on the right think.

At least he didn't throw shoes.

Chris Matthews is a fucking hack and this guy owned him.

Remember everyone who questioned the war in Iraq was in bed with Saddam?

Kanrei,

Please refrain from pointing out that many on the left have simply swapped places with their counter parts from the right a few short years ago.

The boogyman could be around the next corner.

Chris Matthews is a fucking hack and this guy owned him.

#67 | Posted by brentrice1

I have to give Matthews credit. After he figured out that this guy knew his shit, he backed off and gave him the respect he deserved.

Please refrain from pointing out that many on the left have simply swapped places with their counter parts from the right a few short years ago.

We do live in a two party system, but they call the parties by the wrong names. The parties are "In Power" and "Not In Power." The side most people are on changes as the letter behind the President changes, but the positions of those sides remain constant. Those in power can do no wrong to the powerful and can do no right to those without power.

I like how the Other guy who carried a displayed firearm explained Why he was Displaying his Firearm at a Town Hall meeting (as if a gun is required for a debate).
He in essence said "It was a Peaceful Event and No one got Hurt". But seconds later responded when asked the Follow up question "Would the Event have Been Safer if Everyone had been armed" He responded "Yes".

Now I don't know how you Make an even that seconds prior was described as a "Peaceful Event" where "No One Got Hurt" and "Safer"!?

Unfortunately this is a Narrative of How these Cretins Think (Totally Irrational and Nonsensical)! It's as if they Can't Put One Idea Expressed one Minute to Another Idea Expressed the Next!

It Makes No Fucking Sense ---- and Explains why these People Have the Time to Masturbate themselves like this in Public!

This link might help the Left understand a little more how some on the right think.

Yeah, that people like the gun toter can't think past his own interests and the possible repercussions of making a weapon available to any nutcase that decides to grab it away from him. Nothing says "common sense" like taking a gun into an emotionally charged situation.

Wasn't that long ago a guy grabbed a gun from a Deputy and shot and killed a judge and 2 others.

He was a moron and chose a stupid way to make his point.

Was the gun loaded? Zat posted where it is legal to keep an unloaded gun in your car in NH, so it is not beyond possibility that the man simply forgot it was there.

Nevermind....I should look closer to the headline where it says "LOADED gun." I have no excuse. Fire away, no pun intended.

Kanrei, I don't think this is the same guy from the story that rcade posted to here.

Kanrei, I don't think this is the same guy from the story that rcade posted to here.

He's not the same guy. Both had loaded guns, though. This guy wasn't licensed and was in the school Obama where Obama was due to speak. Not sure what the Federal investigations are about:

"Police said Young is being investigated by the Secret Service for possible federal crimes resulting from the same series of events,"

MEDIA WATCH

TONIGHT ON hannity.....WATCH IT IF YOU DARE...

If Hannity is hosting it I'd rather watch a rerun of My Favorite Martian, at least then I'll get laugh out of an alien.

Not sure what the Federal investigations are about:

I think firearms on school grounds is a Federal law.

I think firearms on school grounds is a Federal law.

Ah. Thanks.

I found this so I do think that is the Federal Law:

Wish I could have found a more neutral site however.

Ah yes, the old "no honest folks armed here" zone; A target-rich environment.

Obama loaded the audience with his union thugs, ACORN, and health care supporters. Why did they carry guns?

Et tu Brute?

2009
Some people on the right are playing with fire in the extreme way they talk about the president. It's scaring up a lot of nuts.

#21 | Posted by rcade at 2009-08-12 12:00 PM | Reply

2001-2008
"Some people on the left are playing with fire in the extreme way they talk about the president. It's scaring up a lot of nuts."

Posted by any republican on the Drudge between 2001-2008

#85 | Posted by Beachbuzz at 2009-08-12 02:26 PM |

Which begs the question "why does the right think it is ok to do it now when they KNEW it was wrong before?"

Unfortunately this is a Narrative of How these Cretins Think (Totally Irrational and Nonsensical)! It's as if they Can't Put One Idea Expressed one Minute to Another Idea Expressed the Next!

It Makes No Fucking Sense ---- and Explains why these People Have the Time to Masturbate themselves like this in Public!

#71 | Posted by Redneckville

Not really.

If you can make statements like this, then I find fault with you. You have no clue what the guy is talking about (the Constitution) so you bash him.

Maybe he had a gun cuz he heard that Obama was sending out his thugs to rough up people, and thus needed protection?

BIG BRAVE OBAMA, WHO SENDS OUT HIS THUGS TO ROUGH UP SENIORS!

BIG BRAVE OBAMA, WHO UPHOLDS PEACE!

BIG BRAVE OBAMA, WHO SENDS HIS MINIONS TO DO A "RODNEY KING" ON OTHER BLACK PEOPLE!

BIG BRAVE OBAMA, UPHOLDER OF JUSTICE IN OUR LAND.

ALL HAIL OBAMA, LORD JOKER, WHO BRINGS FREEDOM BACK TO GOTHAM!

#88 | Posted by TheOneBS at 2009-08-12 02:36 PM | Reply | Flag:Next Time Should Just Type "Duh" and Get the Same Point Across

86 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-08-12 02:28 PM | Reply.

Bush is a piker compared to the things Obama has planned for our country. The left hated Bush because of the war and because they thought he was stupid.

The right hates Obama because of his less than desirable associates, his forcing the stimulus bill, healthcare and, CapN'Trade down our throats, and his and Eric Holder's negative stance on the 2nd amendment just to name a few.

So I believe the dissatisfaction and hatred is justified.

Bush forced the Stimulus Bill. Remember McCain suspending his campaign to sign it?

AKA- your hate is selectively applied not to actions, but to actors.

"Bush forced the Stimulus Bill. Remember McCain suspending his campaign to sign it?"

I wasn't a fan of ANY of the stimulus bills or the bailouts.

My point is that you misattributed who started the Stimulus Bill.

The "gun free school zone

If that is the case why didn't they arrest the other guy with the loaded gun?

He was a nice loaded gun guy?

The case is no good without a warrent to search the car.... They will plea this down to a hill of beans and the guy gets out of jail by friday

My point is that you misattributed who started the Stimulus Bill.

#94 | Posted by kanrei

No, I didn't. Bush and Obama both had stimulus bills rushed through congress.

Bush and Obama both had stimulus bills rushed through congress.

I was under the impression it was the same bill, thus talk of needed a "second" stimulus package.

There was 1 stimulus package, passed during the Bush Administration - with the funding dividing into 2 parts. The first part was released during Bush's term, the second part was released after Obama took office.

If that is the case why didn't they arrest the other guy with the loaded gun?

Public sidewalk, law was cited already.

Sanan demonstrates the art of misdirection (lying by omission), "There was 1 stimulus package, passed during the Bush Administration ..."

You'd think that Bush was the Democrat controlled Congress, who actually assured that this 'package' would pass and be spent as it was.

What is surprising, is the number of dolts who eat this sort of shit, right out of these zealot's gutters ...

Tad - was or was not the stimulus package passed during the Bush Administration? Was, or was it not essentially written by Hank Paulson?

It really isn't necessary for you to work so hard at being an ass, although I know it gives you pleasure to do so.

But it is especially unnecessary, since I was stating an undeniable fact. Plus, I have no reason to "lie by omission" since I support the stimulus package.

I guess what I was trying to say, in layman's terms, is STFU, Tadly.

Sana,
You forgot rule number one: if you answer him, he won't STFU

Sanan thinks I'm one of the dolts, "... was or was not the stimulus package passed during the Bush Administration?"

I've already answered your effort to excuse the Democrat controlled congress, who voted to make this 'Stimulus' possible ... not Republicans, not Bush, but under the control of DEMOCRATS.

It would never have happened had not Democrats passed it through the House.

You prove you are nothing but a party parrot, stuck in your one-track, yellow-dog mind ...

You forgot rule number one: if you answer him, he won't STFU

#104 | Posted by kanrei

BUT... what he doesn't factor in is that I get far more pleasure out of making him the subject than he does out of being made the subject. So each time he responds that he enjoys being made the subject, it doubles my enjoyment of having made him the subject.

; )

Sanan thinks I'm one of the dolts...

I've already answered your effort to excuse the Democrat controlled congress

#105 | Posted by tadowe

Apparently you ARE one of the dolts since I very plainly indicated I would have NO REASON to "exuse" the Democrat controlled congress. Since I SUPPORT THE BILL.

Good Lord.

#106 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-08-12 03:41 PM

I think I need a Venn Diagram to follow that one -D

*excuse the misspelling of "excuse"

My point is that you misattributed who started the Stimulus Bill.

#94 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-08-12 02:56 PM

What a childish statement. He started it!

If this Obama fellow were even one 10th the brilliant person the media hyped him up to be he wouldn't have been a part of it when Bush signed it during the campaign era. Not stopping it now is what matters not who started it.

How is the war/wars going?

Amazing what people will accept. Isn't it?

Fox News and Right Wing Conservative Radio, has fanned the lunatic fringe in believing that this President is not an American. In North Carolina a Poll taken in the last few days has nearly 8% of all Republicans question that even if Obama was born in Hawaii, Hawaii may not be a STATE, 5% said it wasn't and another 3% said they were not sure. An you Fucking Republicans want to question Bill Maher when he said that there is just to many STUPID AMERICANS.....

If the Republican party know whats good for them they should make sure nothing ever happens to this President, we will not turn the other cheek....

You are correct... Six marines killed this week in afghanistan and hardly a word out of the defeatist left. The same peole who were on this site screaming bloody murder over every death in the past.

Deaths on B.O.'s watch obviously do not count.

kenrei danni and the like were all sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo upset at every death during the bush administration... Seems they are numb to it now....

That's OK.... Obama will not solv a frigging thing.

The only good Jihadist is a DEAD Jihadist!

Anti-War = Anti-Christian

I was right the whole time

oh my a gun how scarey! run and hid little libbys!

If the Republican party know whats good for them they should make sure nothing ever happens to this President, we will not turn the other cheek....

#111 | Posted by celisary at 2009-08-12 04:18 PM | Reply | Flag: FUCKING STUPID

Bush forced the Stimulus Bill. Remember McCain suspending his campaign to sign it?

#91 | Posted by kanrei

Bush is no angel.

this man consistently calls obama a socialist tyrant

while at the same time spewing is love for bush jr.

or as some called him king george II.

stop whining cry baby.

#64 | Posted by klifferd at 2009-08

after seeing what he and the other chicago crook and political mafia are doing I have reassesed this

he is a neo marxist......

so if you are going to talk shit, get it right

TONIGHT ON hannity.....WATCH IT IF YOU DARE...

If Hannity is hosting it I'd rather watch a rerun of My Favorite Martian, at least then I'll get laugh out of an alien.

#77 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009

typical and expected response

if I said it was on chris matthews you would be slurping it up as the gospel..

so just stay ignorant and uninformed of the issue....

AKA- your hate is selectively applied not to actions, but to actors.

my hatred is for the neo marxist president's ACTIONS and his accomplices..the god damn democrats...

UNLIKE obama...I like america being the richest and most generous country in the history of the world..

Bush forced the Stimulus Bill. Remember McCain suspending his campaign to sign it?

#91 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-08-12 02:48

and you JUST HAPPEN TO LEAVE OUT..obama was fully supportive of the whole thing REGARDLESS OF what it did to the deficit

wouldnt you just LOVE to have a BUSH DEFICIT NOW???

wouldnt you just LOVE to have a BUSH DEFICIT NOW???

The Clinton surpluses would be better, unfortunately Dubya shock and awed them into oblivion.

Too funny. MSNBC admits they put the guy with the gun with the Obama protesters. Todd was apologizing for the stunt today.

You gotta love those fools at MSNBC. Never a dull moment.

Somebody at MSNBC knows somebody who owns a gun?
Wow, man.

Fox News and Right Wing Conservative Radio, has fanned the lunatic fringe in believing that this President is not an American. In North Carolina a Poll taken in the last few days has nearly 8% of all Republicans question that even if Obama was born in Hawaii, Hawaii may not be a STATE, 5% said it wasn't and another 3% said they were not sure. An you Fucking Republicans want to question Bill Maher when he said that there is just to many STUPID AMERICANS.....

If the Republican party know whats good for them they should make sure nothing ever happens to this President, we will not turn the other cheek....

#111 | Posted by celisary

I was watching Obermann, Chris Matthews and Maddow last night to see what I was missing.

I AM MISSING A LOT!

Celisary, you are spouting out the same hate and racism that they were. AMAZING!

I don't watch cable news, especially Fox because it's always one-sided.

But, Obermann especially, was touting the racism amoung these poor people who are just trying to be heard! AMAZING!!!

Let me put into perspective for you.

Imagine you are in South Florida at a meeting full of exiled Cubans and you walk in there with a huge picture of Fidel Catro. What's going to happen? They are going to take your poster away, cruple it up and throw it away. Right?

Imagine you're in New York in a senagogue and you walk in with a big poster of hitler. I'm VERY sure someone is going to stand up and take it from you. Don't you think?

Now, walk into a room full of people who are afraid that their country is moving toward socialism and you hold up a big poster of Obama, a known far-left Socialist, what do you think is going to happen?

You call it racism. I call it something completely different. I call it survival.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Obama is black.

I forgot to spell check, my bad

Are the Politicians now "Scared" that the Citizens will start "Imitating" the US Govt's Reckless and Illegal (think Iraq) Pre-Emption & Violence???
As Adolf Hitler said:"The great thing about Fascism is that it forces those who oppose it to use similiar tactics to fight it!"

Still waiting for Rcade to chime in...

2009
Some people on the right are playing with fire in the extreme way they talk about the president. It's scaring up a lot of nuts.

#21 | Posted by rcade at 2009-08-12 12:00 PM | Reply

2001-2008
"Some people on the left are playing with fire in the extreme way they talk about the president. It's scaring up a lot of nuts."

Posted by any republican on the Drudge between 2001-2008

BTW - The nuts have always been there, it's just a matter of time before they crack reality.

"Man Arrested at Obama Event with Loaded Gun"

There is no such thing as an unloaded gun.
Deal with it.

There is no such thing as an unloaded gun.
Deal with it.

That's exactly what my dad told me once when we were out shooting when I was young. I had a single shot .22 I was plinking cans with. I emptied the chamber and swung it past my dad to put it away. He said pretty much verbatim what you did, zat, then took away my shooting privileges for two months.

Goatcoward welcome back. Are you familiar with working with PLC's?? I am going for a 3 day training paid for by my work.

"Goatcoward welcome back. Are you familiar with working with PLC's??"

LOL. This place kills me.

" then took away my shooting privileges f"

My father was a gunnery instructor.

Are you familiar with working with PLC's??

There's hardly an aspect of the rig that doesn't use them.

"This place kills me."

Beats watching TV.

If something does happen to big ears it is his own fault. He knows nothing about running a Country. He might handle running a sex shop for gays, but when he put homeland security in charge of the secret service I think he must have a death wish or maybe his fat ass wife is more than even he can stand.

The robotic arms that do the sorting at the plant I work at are primarily controlled by PLC's.

"If something does happen to big ears it is his own fault."

Proud Part of the Problem.

The robotic arms that do the sorting at the plant I work at are primarily controlled by PLC's.

I'd be very surprised if they weren't.

Based on todays events...I'm guessing I could walk up to a Townhall meeting with my legal Ar15 strapped to one side, my legal AK47 strapped to my other side and make the 24 hour news cycle!!

If I decide to, I will have a "Danni is A Bitch" Sign on my back.

"If I decide to, I will have a "Danni is A Bitch" Sign on my back."

Please do, so we'll be able to identify the body.

Beach are you a Browns fan? I had a vision they will be 4-12 this year.

JA - 10-6 baby...

Scratch the Danni sign...I will have a "Jackass Is My Bitch" sign on my back. haha :)

JA - 10-6 baby...

So, you're on the bandwagon?

ehehehee.....just kiddddding

Rex - If there is a bandwagon, I'm ALL over it!

Good to see you! How's things?

0-0 in the 13th innning.....M's vs White Sox

I don't have any fingernails left.

How you doing?

Rex - Can you believe what these left handed clowns are saying about our organized possee of old folks and such?

Makes me sick.

They're scum Stir, pure scum.....Nothing suprises me about the left or Hussein.

Hussein hates middle America, his handlers trained him to hate us.

He hands over the keys the country to the most vile hag in human history, Sick Nancy Freak Show, and he wonders why everyone is getting so pissed off.

Evil, scum.

Leave a fingernail to scratch off the latest NAZI handbook sticker I sent you to place on your new ride. A nice SS sticker will shine on your new ride down HW 5.

The only Nazi's I see are the global warmer advocating massive human genocide, and Hussein trying to set up his single payer death camps to kill off as many old republicans as he can.

Once again, read Praire Fire, Billy Ayers lays out the mass murder of those opposed to his twisted ideals, after he gains power through lies and subversion.

It is all coming true.

Revolution is a fight by the people for power. It is a changing of power in which existing social and economic relationships are turned upside down. It is a fight for who runs things, in particular, for control by the people of what we communists call the means of production.

Billy Ayers - Prarie Fire Manifesto - 1974

Socialism is the total opposite of capitalism/imperialism. It is the rejection of empire and white supremacy. Socialism is the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie, the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and the eradication of the social system based on profit. Socialism means control of the productive forces for the good of the whole community instead of the few who live on hilltops and in mansions.

We have an urgent responsibility: to destroy imperialism from within in order to help free the world and ourselves from its grasp.

'Ijust want to take a little bit of what you earned and spread it around.' Hussein

I bought up the subject of what's going to happen after we take over the government. We, we become responsible, then, for administrating, you know, 250 million people.

And there was no answers. No one had given any thought to economics; how are you going to clothe and feed these people.

The only thing that I could get, was that they expected that the Cubans and the North Vietnamese and Chinese and the Russians would all want to occupy different portions of the United States.

They also believed that their immediate responsibility would be to protect against what they called the counter-revolution. And they felt that this counter-revolution could best be guarded against by creating and establishing re-education centers in the southwest, where we would take all the people who needed to be re-educated into the new way of thinking and teach them... how things were going to be.

I asked, well, what's going to happen to those people that we can't re-educate; that are die-hard capitalists. And the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, they estimated that they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these re-education centers. And when I say eliminate, I mean kill. 25 million people.

I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees from Columbia and other well known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people.

And they were dead serious."

-- Larry Grathwohl, former member of the Weather Underground

And the liberal mass of goo, totally ignores the thought of such a plan.

BoOOb should be on this like stink on a fucking monkey!

Hitler was fucking crazy too.

WOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO

Griffey wins it in the bottom of the 14th on a 3-2 pitch!

Ok, I gotta go to bed man......

See your later.

We are dealing with some sick freaks.

Later Rex...

And for all you libs in Rio Linda, the Weather Underground was founded by Bill Ayers, a friend of Barack Obama.

What nice company our leader keeps.

Chimpy and his relatives were business partners with Hitler and the Bin ladens as well being chummy with John Hinckley. Birds of a feather and all that stuff.

The side most people are on changes as the letter behind the President changes, but the positions of those sides remain constant.

Perhaps major party platforms do not change, but you can't possibly look at the words of Pelosi and Hoyer this past week and say that they haven't adopted a position held by republicans a few years ago.

Their comments that the people interrupting these town-hall meetings are unAmerican smack of "you're either with us or against us" nonsensical bullshit.

Flip to the other side, we have righties up in arms that their right to free speech and public redress is being encroached upon. I don't think I need to tell the rest of the story. You and I both know what republicans said about anti-war/anti-torture activists.

Now, when some of these people start getting loud and emotional and saying that they want their country back, I wonder which country they're talking about, but at no time do I wish to stiffle their right to make a fool of themselves.

"Perhaps major party platforms do not change, but you can't possibly look at the words of Pelosi and Hoyer this past week and say that they haven't adopted a position held by republicans a few years ago"

Huh? To do that you have to equate being escorted out and the conversation continuing with not being escorted out and the conversation ending.

Not even what I am talking about.

Look at the last few years. Anything that ran opposite to the administration's line was considered anti-american by many of those on the right.

Fast forward to today and anything that runs opposite to the administration's line is considered anti-american by many of those on the left.

The Bush administration participated by banning opposition from the town hall meetings or public speeches it held.

The current administration should not make the same mistake, and they should avoid making any broad generalizations about opponents of their policy lest they wish to have the pendulum swing back in favor of the right sooner.

The Clinton surpluses would be better, unfortunately Dubya shock and awed them into oblivion.

#122 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2009

okay...and of course I would prefer to return to some checks and balances with a republican congress or at least enough to neutralize the radical agenda.

so how about that??

Texas Democratic Congressman Gene Green has decided to limit attendance at his town hall events in order to maintain what he calls, a civil discussion of the issues. Green writes on his Web site: "Unfortunately, due to a coordinated effort to disrupt our town hall meetings we will be restricting further attendance to residents of the 29th Congressional district and verifying residency by requiring photo identification."

But Green hasn't always favored such restrictions. A non-partisan-issues Web site says Green has voted twice against requiring photo ID in federal elections. Green's office explains: "Previous votes on the voter integrity project requiring picture identification would have restricted voter participation

This guy wasn't too bright.

It shoulda' been like Godfather--

"" Leave the gun. Take the canoli. ""

And fellas--

The first bill passed under Bush was the TARP.

He spent half --bailing out AIG who laundered money to Goldman and a bunch of other companies--Paulson and Geithner were the architests of that bill.

Obama is spending the other half of the 800 billion TARP--bailing out AIG further and the auto industry.

Obama signed the 1st stimulus--787 billion.

There is talk of needing another stimulus.

There is also talk of not spending anything more of the 1st stimulus that Obama signed.

Decisions decisions...