Uh huh. Obviously there to participate in civil discourse.

Anybody seen Johnson or Pinochet Mao?

This happened in Arizona too.

Officer Marcus Gonzalez, the public relations representative for the police in Douglas, Arizona, has confirmed to TPM that police were indeed called out to an event last week by Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, where an attendee had dropped a gun.

Gonzalez does not know any further details at this time. But he could confirm to us that it was "not just media hype."

The Arizona Daily Star reports:

"Yelling and screaming is counterproductive," she told the Sierra Vista Herald at a Congress on Your Corner event last week. There, one visitor dropped a gun at the meet n' greet held in a Douglas Safeway, her staff says.

That has aides, who called police to the event, concerned for her safety.

"We have never felt the need before to notify law enforcement when we hold these events," said spokesman C.J. Karamargin.

"This happened in Arizona too."

True. But this one, however, happens to be one where the President will be attending.

"The police are obviously keeping a close eye on this man and I suspect that he won't be here when the president arrives in a few hours' time," Allen told viewers.

Hell, he'll never be seen again.

"I'm in bed with your wife, you worthless pot-head fuck."

That's not my wife, it's one of your ponies, you drunk.

Mrs. Null, why the long face?

I wonder if the man is actually well informed on the issue or if he's just there to fight against "death to granny" or even just those socialist dems.

I wonder if the person actually exists from the way it was reported. You'd think they would have alerted police and videoed it rather than make a lame comment that he likely would be taken away?

I wonder if the person actually exists from the way it was reported.

#10 | Posted by Diablo

Watch the video.

I wonder if the person actually exists from the way it was reported. You'd think they would have alerted police and videoed it

Did you even bother to read the link?

UPDATE

New Hampshire TV station WMUR is reporting that the Secret Service had a pick-up truck towed away from the site of President Obama's town hall in Portsmouth "for security reasons," after a bomb-sniffing dog circled the vehicle several times.

"Officials said a Secret Service bomb dog had a hit on the truck, but they did not say whether there was a specific threat detected," WMUR reports

Did you even bother to read the link?

#12 | Posted by jpw

He apparently didn't even read the first sentence.

"But this one, however, happens to be one where the President will be attending."
#4 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

I seriously doubt the Secret Service would allow anyone with a gun within 1000 yards of the President. Sounds like someone is creating a story with the facts stretched.

Ohhhh, It's Raw Story. They stretch and twist the truth more than MSNBC does.

KBM-watch the video and then apologize to the reality based community....

Another fine post by KaBoom!

OMG!!! He's carrying a gun on his leg!!! In a state where it's legal to do so!!!

OMG!!! A gun!!! Anyone got a clean pair of pants?!??

OMG!!!

-MSNBC Viewers

What's the big deal this man did absolutely noting wrong? Quoting from the link.

"Allen says the Portsmouth police chief told him the man's gun is legal, because he is on private property he is on the grounds of a nearby church. Police say his gun is registered and he can keep it on him as long as it is not concealed."

So are we now supposed to get all up in arms over someone doing something that is very much legal?

#19 | Posted by JOE

Dumbfuck post of the day award. Honorable mention to TXLib.

Joe, don't you have some briefs to read, or write, or clean, or something?

Hardball's interviewing this guy right now.

(Chris Matthews)

"OMG!!! He's carrying a gun on his leg!!! In a state where it's legal to do so!!!"

Because we all know that legally carrying a gun in general is the same as bringing one to a Presidential appearance, "lawyer" Joe. I feel sorry for your clients.

#21 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

I see so if exercise your rights you're a dumb fuck.

I get it now the Repubs and Dems only want you to exercise the rights they agree with.

Obviously you think the Portsmouth police chief is also a dumbfuck because he had the audacity to allow someone to something legal.

#25 | Posted by nullifidian

He wasn't at the Presidential appearance as far as I can tell unless of course they had the town hall meeting at the church where this guy was located.

"Because we all know that legally carrying a gun in general is the same as bringing one to a Presidential appearance"

Reading might help you.

Allen says the Portsmouth police chief told him the man's gun is legal, because he is on private property he is on the grounds of a nearby church. Police say his gun is registered and he can keep it on him as long as it is not concealed.

I see so if exercise your rights you're a dumb fuck.
#26 | Posted by TXLIBERTARIAN

No, but if you carry a gun to a venue where POTUS is appearing you are definitely a dumbfuck who's going to come under some scrutiny, no matter what the law of that state or municipality has to say about the matter.

Sometimes I think Joe might actually BE a lawyer because he is so adept at obscuring the salient point with minutiae.

No, but if you carry a gun to a venue where POTUS is appearing you are definitely a dumbfuck who's going to come under some scrutiny, no matter what the law of that state or municipality has to say about the matter.

#29 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

This isn't the first such incident. Just the first where the President would be around. For what legitimate purpose are people carrying guns to townhall meetings on healthcare?

I was once at a venue where LBJ spoke, and I'll tell you: once the rules of the game were explained to me I hesitated to scratch my nose after he entered the room. And that was before Vietnam went south (so to speak). It can't have gotten any lighter, securitywise, since then.

For what legitimate purpose are people carrying guns to townhall meetings on healthcare?

#31 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

I don't know perhaps they are carrying them for the same reason they carry them anywhere else.

Since when do you have to have a "legitimate purpose" to exercise your rights.

Obviously you think the Portsmouth police chief is also a dumbfuck because he had the audacity to allow someone to something legal.

It's not the question of being legal or illegal.

It's the obvious escalation of actions during the protesting of a topic that is not gun related.

This may be the beginning of a chilling trend.

Or it could be an isolated incident. We'll see.

FTR-I'm a gun owner and pro2nd amendment, but this man's overall message is a bad development.

He was a dumbass to bring a gun to an event where tempers are already high. That was irresponsible. We've had enough people seizing Police officer's weapons and shooting people up. I don't think this guy would be any more skilled at protecting his weapon from some lunatic.

#34 | Posted by jpw

"It's not the question of being legal or illegal."

Of course it is.

"It's the obvious escalation of actions during the protesting of a topic that is not gun related."

Are you saying you think it would be O.K. if the topic were gun related?

"This may be the beginning of a chilling trend.

Or it could be an isolated incident. We'll see."

We'll see.

"FTR-I'm a gun owner and pro2nd amendment, but this man's overall message is a bad development."

What does your being a gun owner have to with this man exercising his rights?

Also would all of you quit spouting shit about this man being at a Presidential venue? He was not at the Presidential venue he was at some church. He would have never made into a Presidential venue with his firearm and you all know it.

Also would all of you quit spouting shit about this man being at a Presidential venue? He was not at the Presidential venue he was at some church. He would have never made into a Presidential venue with his firearm and you all know it.

75 yards.

Of course it is.

No it's not. It was a question of intent and what his point was. Stop being obtuse.

Are you saying you think it would be O.K. if the topic were gun related?

Yes.

Would make more sense in the context of him exercising the rights he's protesting in favor of. A gun at a healthcare rally, not so much.

What does your being a gun owner have to with this man exercising his rights?

In case someone decided I was an anti-gun liberal who disagreed with him in principle.

Since when do you have to have a "legitimate purpose" to exercise your rights.

#33 | Posted by TXLIBERTARIAN

Are you under the impression that having the right to do something is the same as doing the right thing?

Are you under the impression that having the right to do something is the same as doing the right thing?

#39 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Not at all. There are many rights people have in this country or should have that while I may personally disagree with I would defend to no end.

I don't personally agree with abortion but I think other people should have a right to them if they so choose.

I don't personally agree with same sex marriage or plural marriage but I think people should be allowed to marry anyone they choose as long as they're both consenting adults.

You see my opinion of what's right and wrong is just that my opinion it's not to be forced on others, and that means I don't get to force my opinion on the man in this story either. He had a right to do what he did and I will defend that right even if I don't agree with what he did.

You may call me an extremists if you like because I defend rights that I don't personally agree with.

But like a great man once said.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!"

"And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue! "

#40 | Posted by TXLIBERTARIAN

That doesn't really answer the question or address the point, since no one was arguing that he didn't have the right to carry a gun.

So my question is two-fold. Even if you have the right to do something, is it necessarily the right thing to do?

And secondly, why does anyone need to pack heat to a townhall meeting about healthcare where the President will be present?

The man was seen carrying a sign saying "It's time to water the tree of liberty."
The man's "tree of liberty" sign is a reference to Thomas Jefferson, who said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Its the gun plus the sign that makes this so sketchy.

This story should make its way over to the assassination thread.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!"

"And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue! "

And I get shit from all ends for voting Nader.

#43 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

I believe you were arguing that since you took the time to post an article about a man who exercised a right you don't think he should have exercised.

Apparently you did not read the first 3 words of my #40. No I don't believe if you have the right to do something, it is necessarily the right thing to do, but I will defend to the end your right to do it even if I don't agree.

I'll answer your second question even though I don't think this man went to a town hall meeting with a gun.

Since when does need have anything to with rights?

There are many rights you don't necessarily need to live life just ask the 3 billion people in China. They're living life and don't have nearly the rights we have.

So while I may not agree that this man did the "right" thing I will defend his right to do the "wrong" thing as long as it is legal.

I don't think I could be much clearer than that.

And I get shit from all ends for voting Nader.

#45 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

Who gives a shit what others think as long as you voted your conscience. While I disagree with you on most everything and would never vote for Nader. I have much respect for you for voting your conscience even though you knew there was no way your guy was going to win. That happens every time I go into the voting booth. It takes much balls to vote your conscience as opposed to being a sheep to the two major parties.

If I'm rambling I apologize. I went to dinner with some people from church and had a little too much to drink. It's o.k. we're Lutherans.

"It's not the question of being legal or illegal."

The essence of leftist and righty newspeak.

OMG!!! He's carrying a gun on his leg!!! In a state where it's legal to do so!!!

OMG!!! A gun!!! Anyone got a clean pair of pants?!??

OMG!!!

-MSNBC Viewers

#18 | Posted by JOE at 2009-08-11 04:41 PM | Reply | Flag

That about sums it up. Once news came that he was perfectly with-in his rights to be carrying that gun, the excuses and faux outrage went in to hyperdrive.

As usual, another story on the retort meant to whip the easily led masses in to a lather.