Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Sunday, August 09, 2009

"The demographics tell the basic story: a black man is president and a large majority of white southerners cannot accept that, even in 2009," writes conservative columnist Andrew Sullivan. "I hope the Secret Service is on alert. If we thought racial panic had ended with Obama's election, the resilience of this story in key parts of the country is a helpful wake-up call."

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A bunch of freaks and loudmouths are bitching about the president not being legitimately elected. On and on they go, screaming and screeching. Never showing a bit of reason or common sense -- not even a little decorum.

It's like 2001 all over again.

Who are you and what have you done with Vernon?

Who cares where Obam was born, or that his place of
birth cannot be 100% substaniated?
We know the real reason: Racism is alive and well in AmeriKKKa.

Boo to all the angry European-American males
in their natural state!

Be Well.

When reason and logic fail claim racisism. it is the progressive way.

racisism is their cry when logic and truth isn't there.

Who are you and what have you done with Vernon?

#2 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

FF

###########

not even a little decorum.

It's like 2001 all over again.

#1 | Posted by vernon

I agree with the 'just like 2001' part, but i disagree with the 'decorum' thing.

If you give a good scan of our past history as a country, you will find many cases of manic activity.

IMHO, the biggest problem we have, right now, as a country, is that we have too much decorum. We have become complacent and compliant in our comfort. But be careful, because if you speak out or step out of line, you may ruin your credit rating.

The state of Hawaii says he was born in Honolulu. Two Honolulu newspapers published notice of the birth based on public records at the time. What evidence has anyone presented (other than an obviously forged "Kenyan" birth certificate) that he was born anywhere else? It seems to me that the burden is on the accusers to prove their case, not on the target to prove a negative (that he wasn't born somewhere else)?

If you think he's "illegitimate" you have to prove it.

The racists are Rev. Wright, Prof Gates and Obama himself who criticised a cop just because he was white.

FWTHOM, I can't decide whether you are a spoofer or you are really as ignorant as you seem from your posts.

(Based on reading your posts over the months, I'm gonna go with "spoofer")

Even a tiny bit of research into nearly all of these right wing campaigns will reveal that they are funded and promoted by wealthy right wing zealots and/or business interests like health insurance and pharmaceuticals who stand to lose billions of dollars from a level playing field.

They range from the tea parties or the birther nonsense with its racial undertones to pulling out all the stops to kill universal health care or water it down to something unworkable. Right wing media whip up the emotions of those who hate change and think it will harm them, often against all reason. The Republicans opportunistically latch on to it all as a useful vote-getter.

I take issue with the "large majority of white southerners"

I know of almost no birthers and almost everyone I know is a white southerner. The one that I do know is a complete moron who no one takes seriously. I am not sure how they get a majority of us but it is a loud mouth highly vocal minority from what I can tell.

If you think he's "illegitimate" you have to prove it.

#7 | Posted by WhoDaMan

NO!! All he has to do is release his records. That would be real simple.

Personally, I think this is an Obama sleigh of hand. It keeps people occupied and off topic.

Question: Did Sullivan support or oppose justice So-So? His credibility depends on the answer to that question.

At any rate, questioning Obama's birth place is not racist, just like it wasn't racist for Liberals to question Clarence Thomas's credentials.

Sniper,

He did, before the election.

However the same form that was accepted from my state for my mariage license, drivers license and by the feds for my passport was not accepted by the birthers about Obama.

I have a copy of my certificate of live birth and compared it to what was posted by Obama before the election and they were identical, I also opened it in photoshop and it was the original scan to the best of my ability to tell. If it was faked it was very well done and done before the scan to post it. Now I do not claim to be an expert but I doubt many on here have a Hawaii certificate of live birth to compare the way I do.

He has released his records. The state of Hawaii says he was born there. What is their motivation to lie? The "long form" birth certificate BS is just that. Since when is the government of a State's official statement not recognized as a fact regarding that State's internal affairs? How many people would a conspiracy such as this require? And, again, what is their motivation? Since the governor of Hawaii is Republican, and stuff.

I definitely believe that a lot of birthers are racist. However, their racism is incidental to the abysmal lack of intelligence that leads them into the trap of being paranoid about anything representing change, and not its root cause.

If I were really conspiratorially minded I'd suspect that Democrats either started these crackpot campaigns or kept them alive far beyond their sell-by date in order to make Republicans look bad.

But I'm not. It's just the right wing shooting itself in the foot over and over again presumably because they are convinced that a steady drip, drip of invented bad news and manufactured outrage will benefit them. Last November should have reminded them that one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. But it didn't and still doesn't.

"I want my country back!"

Too bad they are too dumb to realize that it is corporations afraid of losing the control they have had for at least thirty years. Willing pawns don't even understand who runs things.

Birthers, . What's the score of the Cubs game?

One of the larger ironies here is that these people don't believe the "official story" on Obama's birth, but they do believe (and defend to the death) the official story on 9/11 (Saddam did it), WMD, etc. So, which is it, the government always tells the truth, the government always lies, the government always tells the truth when it's run by Republicans, or what?

Too bad they are too dumb to realize that it is corporations afraid of losing the control they have had for at least thirty years. Willing pawns don't even understand who runs things.

Bullshit. the "willing pawns" are the fucking idiots who think that corporations are going to lose any control in this healthcare reform.

Yeah! The Supreme Court conspired to deny Gore the presidency! Isn't that what you Libs believe?

He makes absolutely no logical case that racism has anything to do with it.

The birthers are idiots but when their critics act like idiots too, it lends them credibility.

White Southerner = Racist.

Only racist here is the author of the article.

"He makes absolutely no logical case that racism has anything to do with it."

Admittedly it's all inference but few would deny that the birther nonsense comes from right wingers. The right wing power base is mostly in the South and the South is inextricably linked to racism by history through slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow and the struggle against Civil Rights. Fairly or unfairly, but not without evidence like this birther nonsense, the South still has that reputation.

White Southerner = Racist.

#25 | Posted by jackass

Bill Clinton, Al Gored, John Edwards, etc, are White Southeners.

Well, you read it here first folks, many of the top leaders and former leaders of the Democratic party are racists.

"Bullshit. the "willing pawns" are the fucking idiots who think that corporations are going to lose any control in this healthcare reform."

Then why are they so dead set against a public option?? Do you think they want to give up the "pre-existing condition option, do you think they want to offer insurance to high risk folks???
The bill that is finally passed probably won't hurt them too badly but they know that if Democrats hold power we can keep improving it until we do force real competition into the health insurance market.
BTW, interesting coincidence, the birthers never minded too much that the previous president had been AWOL and certainly never wanted a real investigation into the matter.

Poll:

Are Birthers more:

A. Racist

B.Ignorant

C. All of the Above

#23: If that is the case thank God they did!

#30: Correction:

Birthers are:

Liberals spoofing the issue 100%

I don't know a single person, demo or repub who is worried about where big O was born

D. None of the above.

I say that because I know some birfers who are just not sure and they are not ignorant or racist.

I think you are both Member.

I don't remember asking for your opinion.

I know you are but so am I

Im rubber your glue

"Im rubber your(sic) glue"

#38 | Posted by boojiboy at 2009-08-09 01:55 PM | Reply

Perhaps you meant, "I'll glue your rubber."

Member you need to hear the truth because your family has done the obvious disservice of telling you your numerous shortcomings.

20 yrs. Rev. Wright

As I have stated before here: the time to object to government secrecy was over the nazifaction act passed after sept11, and the formation of the office of fatherland security.

Criticizing state secrecy because the president isn't a wasp is the act of a bunch of trailer trash cowards.

You pay for government, and thus should have a right to know what it does.

White folks racist?!! The hell you say!

leftists just cant help themsleves with the race card can they????

oh well...

question on mccain's
he produced the official one
question and issue resolved and gone

ONE MORE TIME

people like this jerk are doing the bidding of the DNC

they DONT WANT THIS ISSUE TO GO AWAY when some dildo can write this shit and many people will just slurp it up

question on mccain's
he produced the official one
question and issue resolved and gone

IM JUST SAYIN lol

Hey SNIPER, the presumption of innocence is part of the constitution. If you think the president is guilty of something you have to prove it. It's not in the 2nd amendment so you probably think it's optional.

John McCain was born in Panama!

"Yeah! The Supreme Court conspired to deny Gore the presidency! Isn't that what you Libs believe?"

The US Supreme Court voted to install Bush the younger as president after stopping the ballot recount in Florida. Facts.

The dupes are never ending, "The US Supreme Court voted to install Bush the younger as president after stopping the ballot recount in Florida."

Actually, the facts are that the US Supreme Court overturned the Florida Supreme Court. They did *Not* 'install' Bush as president, the vote did that.

The Florida Supreme Court's decision was *against* Florida law, and which stated that if one district was recounted, then all districts were to be recounted, also. The US Supreme Court found that the Florida court had acted against the state law ... favoring Gore, instead of following the law.

See? The Florida Supreme Court was involved in a conspiracy with Democrats to act against the law!!!

Isn't that oh-so typical of Democrats, huh?

In 2003, Democratic presidential candidate and future Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean approvingly cited the left-wing lunacy that Saudi Arabia had warned Bush in advance about the 9/11 attacks. He promised a caller to National Public Radio that, if elected, he would investigate.

In the fall of 2004, Clinton's Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said she believed Bush was holding Osama bin Laden and planned to release him just before the election. (She later claimed she was joking -- a surprise to all three witnesses who heard her say it.)

Sen. Barbara Boxer officially objected to the certification of Ohio's votes in the 2004 election -- on the Senate floor -- and demanded an investigation into the "Diebold stole Kerry votes" conspiracy theory.

And, of course, a Democratic House and Senate actually used official government proceedings to investigate the original nut-job conspiracy theory, the "October Surprise," maintaining that Reagan struck a secret deal with the Iranians not to release the hostages until after the 1980 election.

Now, the only October surprise will come under ObamaCare: Order an MRI in April and get it by ... October -- surprise!

Rosie O'Donnell -- who has headlined many a Democratic fundraiser -- is a prominent 9/11 "truther." She believes the World Trade Center was blown up with explosives, not taken down by terrorists in airplanes.

Most shockingly, the Democrats have a hand-in-glove relationship with Michael Moore, crackpot documentarian, whose "Fahrenheit 9/11" is chock-a-block with demented conspiracy theories, including:

-- the 2000 election was stolen;

-- the Bush family clandestinely spirited the bin Laden family out of the U.S. after the 9/11 attacks; and

-- Bush went to war in Afghanistan, not to avenge the 9/11 terrorist attack, but to help the Unocal Corp. obtain a natural gas pipeline in Afghanistan.

Terry McAuliffe, then chairman of the Democratic National Committee attended the glittering Washington, D.C., premiere of "Fahrenheit 9/11" and emerged endorsing Moore's wacko Unocal conspiracy theory. "I believe it after seeing that," McAuliffe said.

Show me RNC Chairman Michael Steele saying "I believe the birthers" and I'll give 10 percent of my book profits to Air America, raising their profits to -- let's see ... about 10 percent of my book profits.

Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark proudly accepted Moore's endorsement in 2004, and Moore was an honored guest at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, sitting with former President Carter.

What is the likelihood that a birther will be sitting with former President Bush at the 2012 Republican National Convention?

Other Democrats who attended Moore's movie screening included Sens. Tom Daschle, Tom Harkin, Max Baucus, Ernest Hollings, Debbie Stabenow, Bill Nelson, and representatives Charles Rangel and Jim McDermott.

Show me a half-dozen Republican senators attending a birther movie premiere, and I'll pretend to believe that Olbermann went to the Ivy League Cornell.

ANN COULTER www.anncoulter.com

And the idiotic left believes only conservatives have conspiracy theories, and are thus racist.

MORONS!

If you think the president is guilty of something you have to prove it. It's not in the 2nd amendment so you probably think it's optional.

#46 | Posted by AndyB62 at 2009-08-09 02:52 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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UH excuse me but you must be new here

libs here ALL AGREE..
that part of the constitution doesnt apply to a man named tom delay or anyone who agrees with him...

John McCain was born in Panama!

#47 | Posted by AndyB62 at 2009-08

right to american citizens....

See? The Florida Supreme Court was involved in a conspiracy with Democrats to act against the law!!!

Isn't that oh-so typical of Democrats, huh?

#49 | Posted by tadowe at 2009-08-0

TAD you ARE the man

how could I ever doubt you??

Regarding FactCheck, they've been lying to you for over eight months: on Nov. 1, 2008 they claimed that HI had verified that BHO was born there, when in fact HI didn't verify that until a couple weeks ago.

For all the facts of this matter, see this:

24ahead.com

No one to my knowledge has ever pointed out anything false, misleading, or illogical at that page. Instead, all BHO cultists can respond with are ad homs, and that will probably happen in this case.

I'm about to release my movie "Loose Paperwork"
It will show you all of the FACTS about the Obama conspirisy.

"It will show you all the facts...."

None of which are important enough to state now. Just wait for my movie. On You Tube.

"No one to my knowledge has pointed out anything false...On that page...."

Here's one. While it is legal for someone born elsewhere to get a Certificate from Hawaii, the document in question indicates this is what was done. In other words, an Hawaiian document validating foreign birth, not US birth.

Tired of this crap yet?

I guess Obama's grandma and all his fellow Kenyans must be racist too...

...right?

In Kenya, the majority believe he was born there. In fact, the Government has broken ground on a memorial at his birthplace.

Obama doesn't Obama settle this once and for all? All he has to do is produce his original birth certificate...

...is that too much to ask? What is Obama trying to hide?

"What's Obama trying to hide....?

Always the wrong question. The question is what is the State of Hawaii trying to hide, and what's their motivation?

The second is what's the Republican Party trying to hide, and what's THEIR motivation?

For this crazy (emphasize crazy) conspiracy theory to have some chance of working, the list of culprits in necessarily VERY long.

"In fact, the Government has broken ground on a memorial at his birthplace."

If it is "in fact," then you have a link for this amazaing "development."

Right?

Zed falsely assumes that the picture on BHO's site has been verified, when HI points out that they haven't done that:

24ahead.com

Given all the lies and misleading statements from BHO cultists, at this point in time the only thing that would cause me to say it's been proven is if a large number of very trustworthy people see the *whole* file they have on him - including the history of the file - and verify everything in it.

Too many people have lied through their teeth about this issue to expect anything less.

"Zed falsely assumes that the picture on BHO's site has been verified"

Hawaii did confirm that Obama was born in Hawaai, is that not good enough for you

Hawaii gov says: hawaii.gov

#61 | Posted by LonewackoDotCom at 2009-08-09 05:40 PM | Reply | Flag: Handle says it all

what a crock of sh*t. argue about his birth while he "transforms" this county is a a 3rd world sh*t hole. how in the hell does anyone thing we are going to pay of all of his programs. my granddaughter's grandchildren will not see the debt paid. thanks obama

#50 | Posted by TheOneBS at

Yeah, the "birthers" are on the fringe of the party, there are no "mainstream" republicans who buy into that crap.

Oh wait. . . . .

briefingroom.thehill.com

The trend of controversial town halls contiuned on Friday when Rep. John Sullivan (R-Okla.) questioned the authenticity of President Barack Obama's birth certificate and referred to a White House "enemies list" at a meeting in Tulsa.

"This is a scary time in Washington," he said. "It's a very frightening time. I see Barack Obama is creating an enemies list of people who oppose this miserable health care plan. I think that's frightening. That's from a guy that can't even show a long-form birth certificate. I think we all ought to be prepared to fight that."

my granddaughter's grandchildren will not see the debt paid. thanks obama

#64 | Posted by taxpayer at 2009-08-09 05:53 PM |

Yes. Obama has plunged this country in debt sine January.

So... everything for the eight previous years hasn't mattered?

I didn't mention a thing about photos. I pointed out to you an Hawaiian law, which you are free to verify, that falsifies an assertion about Obama on that webpage you linked to, something you said had never been done.

I'm pleased to be first. What prize do I get?

I'm getting tired of asking these questions, and maybe the silence of you looney-toons is intended to achieve that----But---

Why is the State of Hawaii involved in this conspiracy? And why is the Republican Party? Because both are needed to make what you allege work.

That's from a guy that can't even show a long-form birth certificate. I think we all ought to be prepared to fight that."

#65 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-08-09 06:07 PM

This from an idiot from Oklainbredhoma.

The "sooners" suck.

What the fuck is a "sooner"?

Sooner or later ah'em gonna have to have mah way with mah sister?

I'm not going to label Birthers "racist". I have no information concerning that. I will label them dishonest, which my own interactions with them show they are. There's no discomfirming information or argument for their position they've proven willing not to ignore.

"Sooner or later ah'em gonna have to have mah way with mah sister?

Posted by jerrytarkanian at 2009-08-09 06:18 PM"

I sure hope not. It's against the law, you perv.

Sooner or later ah'em gonna have to have mah way with mah sister?

Posted by jerrytarkanian at 2009-08-09 06:18 PM"

I sure hope not. It's against the law, you perv.

#70 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-08-09 06:25 PM | Reply | Flag: Over your head as usual.

"That's from a guy that can't even show a long-form birth certificate. I think we all ought to be prepared to fight that"

Since Hawaii no longer supplies a long form BC, how do you expect that to happen. The form Obama supplied is the only kind that Hawaii supplies, so what is it you want, idiot!

Don't worry Chrissy, your Goatboy will be back soon to help you todder thru life!

70 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-08-09 06:25 PM | Reply
| Flag: Over your head as usual.

No, it wasn't "over my head." JT. I took your line out of context on purpose.

I try not to pass up a chance for a laugh, even more so when it's at your expense. lol

"Actually, the facts are that the US Supreme Court overturned the Florida Supreme Court. They did *Not* 'install' Bush as president, the vote did that."

Every logical person in the world could see that the vote count in Florida was f---d. The Supreme court in stopping the recount (overturning the Florida court - state's rights?) in fact seated GWB as the president. In their decision they wrote that to continue the vote count would be to undermine GWB's legitimacy. So, yes the US Supreme Court decided the 2000 election and installed GWB. This was judicial activism at it's highest level. The constitution is clear about a state's right to run their own election and to seat electoral voters as they see fit. Get the picture, the right wing nuts on the supreme court screwed every citizen in the US.

No, it wasn't "over my head." JT. I took your line out of context on purpose

#74 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-08-09 06:41 PM

Of course you did my little 20 watt blond.

Of course you did my little 20 watt blond.

#76 | Posted by jerrytarkanian at 2009-08-09 06:42 PM

It's 100 watts.

And at least I know how to spell "blonde"

And at least I know how to spell "blonde"

#77 | Posted by CalifChris

Point to Chris. One serve away from matchpoint...developing.

And at least I know how to spell "blonde"

#77 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-08-09 06:44 PM |

How many "lifeline" calls did you have to make?

None. So you get no point, JT.

And we have a WINNER!

me

None. So you get no point, JT.

And we have a WINNER!

me

#80 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-08-09 06:55 PM |

Glad I could complete your pathetically shut-in life.

Glad I could complete your pathetically shut-in life.

#81 | Posted by jerrytarkanian

Don't flatter yourself, JT.

You've "completed" nothing -- as usual.

Next time try taking Levitra. Maybe it would help.

Don't flatter yourself, JT.

You've "completed" nothing -- as usual.

Next time try taking Levitra. Maybe it would help.

#82 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-08-09 07:01 PM

So why comment, "shut in"?

LOL.

Game, set, match to Chris. Sorry, bro. Better luck next time.

I resent this topic. I'm not a birther but I am a racist. I could care less where the black bastard was born.LOL

Game, set, match to Chris. Sorry, bro. Better luck next time.

#84 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-08-09 07:05 PM |

Wow.

Because nulldick says so.....

I'm just fucking with you Chris.

Nite, nite.

You wish. lol

Could somebody please put up a link to the original birth certificate? I can't find it on any .gov websites. I must be missing something.

We go back and forth saying he was born here, he was born there. Hawaii said this, this nonpartisian thinktank said that. The truth is that Obama himself has not released hardly anything as compared to what past candidates had to go through.

I'll bet if Obama came down from the Mount and presented us with the docs..well, the whole problem would go away.. instead he brought us stone tablets with his own commandments and expects us to obey without question

We're coming

I'm just fucking with you Chris.

I know you are, JT.

I''ve gotten used to your brand of humor. lol

"I must be missing something."

A functioning brain, perhaps?

You may yet establish yourself as less stupid than Barfalo Batshit if you hurry.

Andy repeats, "... The Supreme court in stopping the recount (overturning the Florida court - state's rights?) in fact seated GWB as the president."

You support a lie by stating this again like a parrot, and since it has already been explained to you that the US Supreme Court overturned the Florida Supreme Court for NOT abiding by Florida law!

The Florida Supreme Court disobeyed their own state law by deciding to allow only Democrat selected voting districts to be re-counted. Florida law, made by Democrats, said that all voting districts MUST be re-counted, if any district is so to be re-counted.

The US Supreme Court's decision was in favor of the state law Democrats had made to assure fairness in re-counts ...!

Subsequent to the election, three (3) seperate and independent re-counts determined that Bush actually won the voting margin ... suck it up, and quite lying to yourself and promoting ignorance in your fellow ilk.

I am a birther and I am black - NOT a racist.

I am sick and tired of this libtard fucking bullshit!

If you raise a question to anything about Obama you are automatically deemed to be a racist. There is going to be a serious backlash over this and I can assure you that the real racists are the Democrats who are consumed with race. They are making sure that Obama will be the last black Democrat president because no one wants to go through EVER again voting for someone who is black because any questions, objections/dissent will automatically make you a racist. Although these same libtard assholes didn't call criticism of Condi Rice or Clarence Thomas racists because they were conservative. Obama and his supporters are actually setting all black Americans back not forward. I find it interesting that the Jesse Jacksons the the Al Sharptons of the world are not out shouting racism but the White racist libtard Democrats are. The just politicizing race yet again. The Democrats fought against Republican President Abraham Lincoln to free the slaves through the Southern Democrat's founding of the KKK (of which current Sen. Rober Byrd was a high ranking member and recruiter) and have been keeping their boots to the black man's throat ever since.

Fuck libards Democrat racists!!!

"The truth is Obama has not released anything compared to what past candidates had to go through...."

The fact is he satisfied the Hawaiian Secretary of State, the FEC, and the Republican Party.

The truth is you won't be able to demonstrate this is less than McCain showed. Since there is no Secretary of State for the Canal Zone, he may have shown less.

Gore would have won Florida - The Consortium
Nov 12, 2001 ... That was the core finding of the eight news organizations that conducted a review of disputed Florida ballots.

www.consortiumnews.com

Palm Beach Post, 11/18: Gore won. Period.
Palm Beach Post, 11/12: 6 of 9 scenarios, including 3 that most comply with Florida law, give Gore clear victory!

www.americanpolitics.com

But a careful analysis by the Miami Herald shows Gore won Florida by about 23000 votes (excluding the butterfly ballot errors).

teenadvice.about.com

In his recent book "Steal This Vote" - a very judicious work, despite its title - Andrew Gumbel, a U.S. correspondent for the British newspaper The Independent, provides the best overview I've seen of the 2000 Florida vote. And he documents the simple truth: "Al Gore won the 2000 presidential election."

www.nytimes.com

"In a year-long study paid for by the nation's most important newspapers, NORC [National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago] carefully examined and evaluated all the 175,010 ballots that had remained uncounted at the end of the dispute." On page 39, ""Gore has the most votes when all votes are counted."

In 2005, deHaven-Smith concluded, "[M]ost Americans are under the mistaken impression that the true winner of the 2000 presidential election could not be definitively determined.Americans hold this erroneous opinion because they were misled and confused by journalists, political consultants, academics, and others"

gailjonas.blogspot.com

Florida 'recounts' make Gore winner

www.guardian.co.uk

"Were coming..."

Have to get your head out of your ass to find the door first, sweetie.

"Fuck libards Democrat racists!!!"

Well, now, that certainly explains why the overwhelming majority of African-Americans are registered as Republicans.

And that certainly explains why the overwhelming majority of Hispanics are registered as Republicans.

Yep... that explains it.

they are still in shock a "negro" won..

Fuck libards Democrat racists!!!

#94 | Posted by utastaff

and a giant fuck you right back atcha .. white boy lying trash

So there are no links to the docs that Obama released during the election? I saw the part where I'm stupid and my head is in my arse...but not a whole lot else

We're coming

USA 2009---if you don't support Obama 110%, you are a racist.

"We're coming...."

It would help your cause if you could explain a few things.

The number of persons and institutions required to advance such a conspiracy is enormous. The conspirators would of necessity have to include people and large organizations on your side working against their obvious objective best interest.

I realize I can't wring an answer out of you if you don't want to provide it, but not at least trying to do so makes you appear to be a loon.

Loons "come for" no one. They spend their days poking their fingers in their own eyes, or related stuff.

So there are no links to the docs that Obama released during the election?

each state cerified Obma's eligibilty, here's link to one of those states certifcation:
www.scribd.com

you can google for the other 49

By the way, how much time do you spend at Free Republic? Quite a bastion of truth, that one.

TADOWE,
You've ignored all of the relevant parts of my post. Once again, the Supreme court ruled on a state court's ruling without the authority to do so. They DID NOT instruct Florida to count all ballots, they instructed Florida that the first count that went for Bush would be the one accepted. Unfortunately this violates the US Constitution which very clearly gives each state the right to determine how their elections will be conducted and decided. Now, tell me again how this was upholding state's rights. Isn't that the Republican rally cry...States Rights...except when we're actually losing and need to send in the Republican dirty tricks squads. You know like when paid Republican stafferes burst into the counting and physically stopped people from counting ballots. Yeah, but you're right everything was on the up and up and Bush was the most intelligent, non-drunk, sane president ever. You betch-a ;-)

Also by the way, if you won't even make a shot at answering why your hypothesized conspiracy is so wide-ranging and effective---Taking in as it does John McCain himself, as one example---I may not be responding to your goofball repetitions of talking points further beyond this except to say "look at the monkey".

The GOP mantra....I've got mine and screw you if you don't have yours. And screw a half white President who should never be in the White House. Repubs will figure out a way to bring the White House back to the white CEO class so they can continue pillaging America. But wait...Obama has turned that pillaging function over to the oligarchs of Wall Street such as Goldman Sachs.

the wh is just giving these idiots enough rope to swing from

#106

I thought the ruling was that the laws of the state of florida would determine how much of a recount was done.

It was just a sad fact for all of us that Florida's SecState was the one with the power to make that determination.

They DID NOT instruct Florida to count all ballots, they instructed Florida that the first count that went for Bush would be the one accepted. Unfortunately this violates the US Constitution which very clearly gives each state the right to determine how their elections will be conducted and decided.

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Bingo.

The possibility that the state of florida might have had problems with its voting process doesn't mitigate the fact that the federal government violated 'states rights' to hold selections.

The fact that people like tad don't care about states rights is well known. They care about the rights of the corporate state.

Thread #54 for the DR and the birthers.

#111 | Posted by Shawn

They counted the ballots three times and each time it went for Bush.

Including the fourth time after the elections by all the media.

Bush won by 357 votes.

How many times do you want the votes to be counted?

They were playing Carnac and guessing the dimples.

It was ridiculous.

oh please murphy.

At least get down to one lie.

Last November should have reminded them that one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. But it didn't and still doesn't.

#18 | Posted by brock at 2009-08-09 12:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well said. For eight years the crackpot Left has been screeching like banshees about Bush. Never got their wet dream of indictments or impeachment.

The crackpot Right should have realized that all their insane complaining about a legitimate president is just silly.

"Do you think they want to give up the "pre-existing condition option, do you think they want to offer insurance to high risk folks???"

This and much more could be accomplished without a public takeover, and without nationalizing insurance or anything else.

Obama's failure will come because he tried to grab too much at one time.

He should have spent six months just talking up the idea of improving health care -- always acknowledging that what we have is worth preserving. He could have trotted out a bunch of pathetic fringe cases and used some cute tag line like "Even the sick deserve care."

Then advanced one small bill, say a phase-out of pre-existing conditions. Then another small bill on something else. Then another. In a few years he would have accomplished the stated goal.

Only thing I can figure is that the goal is just a sham. This isn't about expanding access but expanding power and influence.

Either that or the only way this neophyte understand politics is the Chicago way of threats, insults and demeaning others.

Of course most Republicans are racists. If not, they wouldn't be Republicans. The evidence is overwhelming.


Of course most Republicans are racists. If not, they wouldn't be Republicans. The evidence is overwhelming.

#117 | Posted by moder8

LOL!

For example?

#117 | Posted by moder8

You mean how Joe Biden said Obama was "articulate"?

LOL!!!

Racist Democrats vs. Colorblind Republicans

Racist Democrats vs. Colorblind Republicans

-- really owe Democratic President Lyndon Johnson a debt of gratitude for destroying American families and causing the number of illegitimate births to skyrocket -- by pushing entitlement programs that made it much easier to have children out of wedlock.

Racist?Or what are you talking about

"The scepticism is surprise! concentrated in the south."

So this makes them racists?

No, it makes Sullivan, "Surprise", an idiot!

Could it be concentrated in the South because there are Republicans concentrated in the South?

Could it be that Democrats don't doubt the legitimacy of the birth certificate because, what? THEY VOTED FOR HIM?

Is Sullivan really trying to prove that it's motivated by race?

Or what are you talking about

#121 | Posted by bruceaz

What are you talking about?

Southerners are usually racist like you Eddie

Or what are you talking about

#121 | Posted by bruceaz

What are you talking about?

#123 | Posted by Eddie
I'm quoting the article,did you read it?


Southerners are usually racist like you Eddie

#124 | Posted by jackass

How am I racist?

LOL!!

you dumbass, Jackass. I said that Sullivan was trying to prove that Birthers are racists becuase it's cncentrated in the South.

Racism is everywhere, stupid!

Well, I guess is Stupid is a Race, then I am a Racist.

I hate stupid!

#123 | Posted by Eddie
I'm quoting the article,did you read it?

#125 | Posted by bruceaz

Perhaps you could elaborate on what you are trying to say then.

Here's a hint: You didn't say anything.

I live in TX and used to live in GA. All republicans I have met were racist. Luckily Laredo is overwhelmingly Dem.

entitlement programs that made it much easier to have children out of wedlock.

The whole article was about racism.Why was this paragraph in the article


I live in TX and used to live in GA. All republicans I have met were racist. Luckily Laredo is overwhelmingly Dem.

#128 | Posted by jackass

How do you know they were all racists?

How can I even believe you?

I grew up in Louisiana. Whites and Blacks hated each other in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. Things got better through time until today, you don't see it anymore.

All you see are Jackass Democrats pointing fingers and saying "Racist"!

The White Democrats hate white people. They are self loathing.

It's pathetic to watch.


entitlement programs that made it much easier to have children out of wedlock.

The whole article was about racism.Why was this paragraph in the article

#129 | Posted by bruceaz

I have no idea.

Things got better through time until today, you don't see it anymore.

I have no idea

You don't see it anymore,Convenient

-- really owe Democratic President Lyndon Johnson a debt of gratitude for destroying American families and causing the number of illegitimate births to skyrocket -- by pushing entitlement programs that made it much easier to have children out of wedlock.

Why was this embedded in an article about racist's and blacks?

Eddie I asked how they felt about blacks and they told me. Eddie you can lie all you want but you are just like David Dukes.

Alright Eddie I guess I can't blame you for the article

Why was this embedded in an article about racist's and blacks?

#132 | Posted by bruceaz

So, Lyndon Johnson was a racist? What?

Yes, the things that Johnson did in the 60's have a great deal to do with people having children out of wedlock.

I can see that the statement does not specifically say "White" or "Black", but you see black don't you? I didn't until you kept insisting on it.

I'm not a racist, perhaps you should do a little soul searching.

You see? The racism still exists in the minds of White Democrats but all but gone in the Republicans'

The White Democrat NEEDS racism to survive in order for the party to survive.


Eddie I asked how they felt about blacks and they told me. Eddie you can lie all you want but you are just like David Dukes.

#133 | Posted by jackass

???

Jackass, you are a Democrat right?

The Democrat Party gets votes because racism exists!

You need it. Your party needs it.

That's why you lie about it.

Last time. What did that have to do with the article that basically said that the blacks are ungrateful for what the republicans had done for them about 150 years ago.


Last time. What did that have to do with the article that basically said that the blacks are ungrateful for what the republicans had done for them about 150 years ago.

#137 | Posted by bruceaz

you didn't ask this question before...

LOL! Are you drunk?

you didn't ask this question before

Just because you don't know an answer,doesn't necessarily mean I'm drunk.


you didn't ask this question before

Just because you don't know an answer,doesn't necessarily mean I'm drunk.

#139 | Posted by bruceaz

you didn't ask a question. I wrote back repeatedly asking what you meant, what your question was.

I'll give you one more chance.

The article you are so enhanced with:
And I;m typing slow cause I know you can't read so fast.
What did that little diatribe on Johnson have to do with the article.
The fact that it had nothing to do with the article I understood as being a little racist stab.

What see you

I know I don't see it

yours truly,
A babbling idiot?

What say you=what see you oops

I love watching the right chase it's tail on tis issue.

Even the ones that aren't completely bat-shit crazy are too afraid to speak out against the vocal few and it does them no service.

Thanks!!

ANN COULTER

MORON!

#50 | Posted by TheOneBS

Ya know, selectively parsed, Theo actually makes a bit of sense.

Lesseee if we can make Eddie make sense too...

The Democrat Party gets votes because racism exists on the right!

~Eddie.

Whee! Is fun fer Spud.

On Topic?

Are Birfers crazy racists?

Yup, most of them.

The rest of them is just plain crazy.

Be Well.

Racist Democrats vs. Colorblind Republicans

Well, THAT was a good laugh.

The article asserts that the reason rethugs traditionally oppose affirmitive action programs is because they are "color blind" not racist.

Yeah, that must be it!/snark>

Southern Dems voted against the Civil Rights Act?

Yeah, and afterwords many of them became Rethugs, a fact not even noted in passing by the article.

Prominent Black Republicans?

Window Dressing to hide the grim truth sez Spud.

It's an old argument and the only people who seem to buy into it are the rethugs who spout it.

People of Color aren't fooled that easily.

Be Well.

Gore would have won Florida - The Consortium
Nov 12, 2001 ... That was the core finding of the eight news organizations that conducted a review of disputed Florida ballots.

Reaching into their hat, Dembastards provide 8 news organizations (let me guess...all MSM in the tank for Dembastards) to rewrite the past.

www.consortiumnews.com

Palm Beach Post, 11/18: Gore won. Period.
Palm Beach Post, 11/12: 6 of 9 scenarios, including 3 that most comply with Florida law, give Gore clear victory!

Then why didn't Gore fight it if this was so clear? Once again, more Dembastard revote of the vote.

www.americanpolitics.com

But a careful analysis by the Miami Herald shows Gore won Florida by about 23000 votes (excluding the butterfly ballot errors).

Uhuh, and all those numerous recounts that kept going Bush's way were just tainted by fact and not post election media spin.

teenadvice.about.com

In his recent book "Steal This Vote" - a very judicious work, despite its title - Andrew Gumbel, a U.S. correspondent for the British newspaper The Independent, provides the best overview I've seen of the 2000 Florida vote. And he documents the simple truth: "Al Gore won the 2000 presidential election."

Uhuh, and Ol' Algore simply through in the towel despite overwhelming evidence he won? A Democrat concede a victory in a presidential election where he clearly is the winner? Yeah, uhuh...and pigs fly!
www.nytimes.com

"In a year-long study paid for by the nation's most important newspapers, NORC [National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago] carefully examined and evaluated all the 175,010 ballots that had remained uncounted at the end of the dispute." On page 39, ""Gore has the most votes when all votes are counted."

In 2005, deHaven-Smith concluded, "[M]ost Americans are under the mistaken impression that the true winner of the 2000 presidential election could not be definitively determined.Americans hold this erroneous opinion because they were misled and confused by journalists, political consultants, academics, and others"

Don't ya just love thes post election studies that are so careful to evaluate the election. Try and try as Dembastards did to retally the votes over and over agains to get a win for Gore, reality kept getting in the way. Not to be denied, they found their win in the post election fantasy zone called rewriting the past to get you what you want. Typial libtard tactic.

gailjonas.blogspot.com


#96 | Posted by truthsetyoufree

What loons! If these were even half true, Gore would have pursued it. Look at what Franken did in MN. If Gore had +23,000 over Bush he would have taken the country down in order to win. He knew the votes weren't there, and he knew a partial recount of a select few counties would not win over a total recount of all counties. The FL supreme court wanted to rewrite the rules that Dembastards wrote in order to secure a win on a partial recount. Them's the facts.

Idiot Dembastards on this are more looney than the birthers!

He knew the votes weren't there, and he knew a partial recount of a select few counties would not win over a total recount of all counties. The FL supreme court wanted to rewrite the rules that Dembastards wrote in order to secure a win on a partial recount. Them's the facts.

Over 200,000 votes of mostly black Florida residents were annulled through "caging".

Diebold gave a state to Dumbya that he shouldn't have won.

Gore won more of the popular vote over-all than Dumbya.

Gore won.

Get over it.

Be Well.

this is rich... from near the top.

"When reason and logic fail claim racisism. it is the progressive way.

#4 | Posted by chickenrancher at 2009-08-09 11:14 AM

How about when reason and logic fail (as in, can't find any real way to deny the President his term)
claim he's not legitimately born here and whine like a 4 year old denied a new toy...it's the Republican way...

from the excerpt from the article...

" The scepticism is surprise! concentrated in the south..."

(coughs into hand)..a racism, a racism...

#147 | Posted by dethspud

LOL...Over 200,000 votes eh? And Gore simply rolled over and conceded this? A Dembastard concedes 200,000 votes? Uhuh, and global warming is responsible for cool summers.

And by the way, elections aren't won on popular vote stooge. We have this electoral college thingy here, so that libtard city folk don't run the rest of the country.

On another note, could someone tell us which hospital Obama was birthed in? Someone asked me this the other day and I couldn't find an answer.

global warming is responsible for cool summers.

Pretty much.

Lower lows.

Higher highs.

Stormier storms.

Less predictability in long established weather patterns.

All that.

The 200,000 number?

That was just in Florida.

Countrywide the racist rethug vote annullment thing ran over a million votes.

Gore won.

K?

Be Well.

On another note, could someone tell us which hospital Obama was birthed in?

Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children, Hawaii.

Our comment to everyone who has been calling is that federal law does not permit us to provide any more details concerning information [about Obama's birth] without authorization from Mr. Obama," Watanabe told WND

Be Well.

/K nuff bloggin' fer one night, exiting as a tater do
stage left.

Spud Spud Spud. So easy to post bogus numbers. If it were that clear, Gore would have fought tooth and nail. You see, that's what Dembastards do. If they have $90,000 in a refrigerator, they will fight and fight and fight, claiming innocence (William Jefferson, Dembastard, LA). If they're down a 500 votes in an election they will fight and fight, stall, find cars with ballots in the trunk, try to nullify overseas military votes, do everything they can to pull votes out of a hat until they've won.

If Gore had +200,000 votes in FL, he would not have rolled over...cuz Dembastards don't do that!

Get over it!

Over 200,000 votes eh? And Gore simply rolled over and conceded this?

It was the choice of Katherine Harris et.al. to perform the "ethnic cleansing" of the voter rolls, which she did. Well, she actually hired an out-of-state company to do it, but you know what I'm saying.

Al Gore had no say in the matter. It's a "states rights" thing.

200,000 sounds high, but the vote difference in Florida was less than 1% of that.

#154

Who knows how many votes were suppressed by either side that year? Bush's family was in on it, but there are most certainly stories of Dems doing shit, too. Dipshits on both sides.
2000 was an example of our country's system failing. How one candidate can get more votes than the other, but still lose, makes no sense. W was fucking horrible, and his presidency just makes the 2000 bullshit sting even worse.

Back on topic:

I don't know any sane people who've questioned the big O's birth certificate. I don't even know any insane people who question it. I don't know anyone who would think it would matter one way or another, either.

These angry "I want my {white} country back" folk make me sick. They are the fringe, though, and deserve less and less media attention. Shame on our media for granting them the coverage they've received, fuck Lou Dobbs and Fox News, and all the other ratings-driven news networks (all of them) airing this shit after the accusations have been disproven time and time again.


racisism is their cry when logic and truth isn't there.

#5 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-08-09 11:19 AM

Yes, because the birfers are so logical and accepting of the truth.

from just above...

..."Shame on our media for granting them the coverage they've received, fuck Lou Dobbs and Fox News, and all the other ratings-driven news networks (all of them) airing this shit after the accusations have been disproven time and time again."

#156 | Posted by Scrumplet at 2009-08-10 09:19 AM

Great point. Shame on these media ratings driven non-story stories. This story should have died months ago, and is being kept alive, and recycled
ad nauseum...websites like Drudge are a big part of
that reason...

USA TODAY]

pelosi and hoyer call americans who disagree
UN AMERICAN

well libs who screamed at that when you thought you were unfairly called that on iRaq

what say you??

pelosi and hoyer call americans who disagree
UN AMERICAN

#159 | Posted by afkabl2

How ironic, because people who agree with her are Socialist. That's un-American the last time I checked.

and we have been TO THIS DAY assaulted for making the same coment after kerry called soldiers terrorist and durbin said that american soldiers acted like russians in the gulag or nazi concentration camps

but this woman and her accomplice think they can get away with this

and I SAY...DONT STOP BABY

NONONE HAS UNITED republicans and more importantly MODERATES like these assholes are doing..

goddamn democrats are imploding on this issue and we must not HELP THEM TO STOP.....

pelosi and hoyer call americans who disagree
UN AMERICAN

#159 | Posted by afkabl2

No Ish, they didn't.

OH YEAH

and any lib dem on this site who tells me they arent concernded that what I just said isnt true about dems doing more to unite the rest of us is really blinded by the issue or a liar...

racisism is their cry when logic and truth isn't there.

#5 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-08-09 11:19 AM

Yes, because the birfers are so logical and accepting of the truth.

#157 | Posted by 726

Actually the birthers are logical. They have a few unanswered questions. That's what makes it a conspriacy! But, I completely agree with Sniper. The Dems usually hurl the "R" word when they are losing the argument.

uh....I read it...americans who dont agree with the government and I know you are going to split the hair of dissent and disrupting meetings but I say thats a conveinent copout and you know it too...

FACT>.only way to be heard by a goddamn democrat congressman or senator is to voice that opinon in whatever level voice it takes

more proof is her attack on protestors and swastika when there have been plenty of examples of bush/hitler pics that she thought was okay and did not speak out on

so split that little hair if you want I know she meant all of them and you will NOT change my mind

Chairborne: SullHIVan Has Aids

only way to be heard by a goddamn democrat congressman or senator is to voice that opinon in whatever level voice it takes


The only way to be heard by a Republican Congressman or Senator is to give cash and betray what you believe in.

and WILL NOT SILENCE MY voice either here or as a member of the ORGANIZED republican party of harris county.......

kanrie

damn YOU ARE RIGHT>..hey you think that william jefferson will vote for health care..

UH WHATS THAT>

oh he was ARREsTED.....oops........

the dem whine about culture of corruption I THOUGHT was a dead argument because of jefferson and all of the others..
but hey...guess not

"uh....I read it...americans who dont agree with the government and I know you are going to split the hair of dissent and disrupting meetings ...

#165 | Posted by afkabl2

No Ish - that IS NOT splitting hairs. Those are two VERY different things.

And you should be ashamed of yourself for telling a flat-out lie about what was said. If you can't make your case without lying, then you ought to give it up.

"Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American."

Tell us what you disagree with about that sentence?

the dem whine about culture of corruption I THOUGHT was a dead argument because of jefferson and all of the others..

Do you really want to compare hypocrites in each party? I think we will get a 95% to 95% comparison.

Do you really want to compare hypocrites in each party? I think we will get a 95% to 95% comparison.
#171 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-08-10 11:59 AM | Reply | Flag: Being Generous

I am in a generous mood today.

If you think the Left is falling back on the tired and easy "racism" retort now...
...wait and see how they react should BHO not be reelected in 2012.

Black on White violence will be far more prevalent than ever.

...wait and see how they react should BHO not be reelected in 2012.
#174 | Posted by libertarian_gi

I think he'll be re-elected. He will loose this battle with health care, but he will try again with the support of everyone and get a good bill passed into law next year.

However, there are going to be a number of Dems who will not get reelected in 2010 and 2012.

The result is the same. Congress gets it's Republican majority back and the Senate is 50/50. Obama becomes Clinton--A show President. Can't do anything.

#170 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

So, what I hear you saying is that it's ok for Congressmen to not listen to their constituents, but it's NOT ok for those constituents to get upset and angry and "right" the wrongs?

I can't believe it! Pelosi actually said these people were un-American. WOW!!!!

So, what I hear you saying is that it's ok for Congressmen to not listen to their constituents, but it's NOT ok for those constituents to get upset and angry and "right" the wrongs?

I can't believe it! Pelosi actually said these people were un-American. WOW!!!!

#176 | Posted by Eddie

I didn't say anything remotely resembling that, Haskell.

And she didn't say that, you boob. And that's why no one here takes you seriously.

Really? She didn't say it?

______________

'Un-American' attacks can't derail health care debate

By Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer

blogs.usatoday.com

Really? She didn't say it?

#178 | Posted by Eddie

That is correct, she did not. Did you bother to read your own link? (Which, by the way, I posted hours ago)

Eddie,
STFU. Now!

And she didn't say that, you boob. And that's why no one here takes you seriously.

#177 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Rogue! You idiot.

It's Nancy Pelosi who doesn't take her constituency seriously!

Did she really say that these people are un-American?

Nancy is more DNC Spokesperson than Representative of her district in California and needs to be replaced. She betrays her constituents daily.

That is correct, she did not. Did you bother to read your own link? (Which, by the way, I posted hours ago)

#179 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Yes I did!

And this is what she had to say about the "Americans" attending the town hall meetings:

"These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. "

"These Disruptions" are directed at the individuals who are upset and angry that they are not being heard and that the health bill is being ramrodded through without anyone actually reading it.

Have you heard any of their objections? Probably not.

You really really need to stop watching Obermann and Madcow. It's their job to confuse you and it's working.

In short, Pelosi said that these people are un-American. I am floored that she would be that desperate. The People want Pelosi to finally realize that "The Emperor Has No Clothes" and take time with this health care bill. That's all.

So, in other words, you are wrong (again). She didn't say opponents were unAmerican, she said the tactic of drowning out opposing views was unAmerican. Surely even YOU can discern the difference.


Eddie,
STFU. Now!

#180 | Posted by 101Chairborne

101, have another drink.

Your hero is tanking. He's done!

But, he has another chance.

If he does what the Americans, you know the "un-Americans" (LOL!!!), want him to do, then he will have a chance.

I think he will. Obama is not too experienced in this *sort of thing, but he is smart. He will realize the mess he made and change and adapt.

*sort of thing: Being the President of the US. (LOL!)

101, have another drink.

Your hero is tanking. He's done!

#185 | Posted by Eddie

You are breathtakingly stupid.


So, in other words, you are wrong (again). She didn't say opponents were unAmerican, she said the tactic of drowning out opposing views was unAmerican. Surely even YOU can discern the difference.

#184 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

LOL!!!

This is a real nice try. Really

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hold on a second. This is too funny.

First you say, no one takes me seriously and then you try something like this? Do you really think I'm as dumb as you? LOL!!!! You want to mince words, but the people that Pelosi is talking about will see her calling them "un-American". It's all about Perception! Not semantics.

At this point, these people are insulted intellectually (as you do on a regular basis). She is cramming garbage down their throats and to add insult to injury, she calls them Un-American in a National Newspaper. That's just stupid!

Obama and Pelosi really think that since they won the election, that they can do anything they want. They are sadly mistaken.

They are doing the right thing. They are having town hall meetings to do 2 things.
1. Tell the people what is going on.
2. Get their reaction to it.


101, have another drink.

Your hero is tanking. He's done!

#185 | Posted by Eddie

You are breathtakingly stupid.

#186 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

LOL! Really?

Is this your reaction when the truth is handed to you?

I've explained it in very simple terms and you still don't get it.

you are upset. Are you un-American too? LOL!!!!

That whooshing sound you heard was the point zooming harmlessly above your head again.

"I've explained it in very simple terms and you still don't get it."

Says Mr. 84% and Lil' Mr. 150,000,000.
ROTFLMAO!!!

"Surely even YOU can discern the difference."

Pardon me for giving you too much credit. My bad.


That whooshing sound you heard was the point zooming harmlessly above your head again.

#189 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

This is self-retorting.

I got your point, but the people it was directed at didn't. They see it as Pelosi calling them un-American.

Do you understand that point?

Whooooooshh!

I got your point,

#192 | Posted by Eddie

I don't think you did, but I'm sure 101 did.

Eddie,
I'm not kidding. STFU. Right now!

I don't think you did, but I'm sure 101 did.

#193 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-08-10 02:15 PM | Reply |

Is this Eddie character for real?

#190 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

LOL,

Can you tell me why your heroes are dissolving before our very eyes?

How is Pelosi going to get herself out of this one?


Eddie,
I'm not kidding. STFU. Right now!

#194 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Why, because the truth is like kryptonite?

Why, because the truth is like kryptonite?

Posted by Eddie at 2009-08-10 02:18 PM

Fictional?

LOL,

Can you tell me why your heroes are dissolving before our very eyes?

How is Pelosi going to get herself out of this one?

#196 | Posted by Eddie

That was a rhetorical question, Doc, you don't need to answer it.

LOL!!!


Why, because the truth is like kryptonite?

Posted by Eddie at 2009-08-10 02:18 PM

Fictional?

#198 | Posted by kanrei

Good one!

Kanrei, so you are saying that Pelosi didn't say that the town hall goers are un-American?

The town hall goers seem to think she did.

Is this Eddie character for real?

#195 | Posted by 101Chairborne

I thought for a while he might be a spoofer. But you have to be clever and reasonably well informed to be a good spoofer, and, well....

Eddie,
STFU. Last warning.

(this is just sad...)

Kanrei, so you are saying that Pelosi didn't say that the town hall goers are un-American?

The town hall goers seem to think she did.

#200 | Posted by Eddie

Gotta love a guy that posts the quote disproving his own contention, and then continues to argue about it.

That's our Haskell.

84% of town hall goers seem to think she did.

#200 | Posted by Eddie

There, fixed if for you.

Kanrei, so you are saying that Pelosi didn't say that the town hall goers are un-American?

Dunno and don't care. Pelosi could tell me I was on fire and I would still check in the mirror.

*it

Pelosi could tell me I was on fire and I would still check in the mirror.

#205 | Posted by kanrei

Eddie only has to be concerned about combustion near his pantal region.

Gotta love a guy that posts the quote disproving his own contention, and then continues to argue about it.

That's our Haskell.

#203 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Rogue, the Black Knight. LOL!!!

"Fictional?"

#198 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-08-10 02:19 PM | Reply | Flag: rimshot

Krypton is present in the air at about 1 ppm. The atmosphere of Mars contains a little (about 0.3 ppm) of krypton. It is characterised by its brilliant green and orange spectral lines. The spectral lines of krypton are easily produced and some are very sharp. In 1960 it was internationally agreed that the fundamental unit of length, the metre, should be defined as 1 m = 1,650,763.73 wavelengths (in vacuo) of the orange-red line of Kr-33.

Under normal conditions krypton is colourless, odourless, fairly expensive gas. Solid krypton is a white crystalline substance with a face-centered cubic structure which is common to all the "rare gases". Krypton difluoride, KrF2, has been prepared in gram quantities and can be made by several methods.

www.webelements.com

"Can you tell me why your heroes are dissolving before our very eyes?
#196 | Posted by Eddie"

Eddie, a.k.a. Mr. 84% and Lil 150 mil, it's the wont of people who suffer from authoritarian personality disorder -- that would be people like, well, you, Eddie -- to think in terms of Yes/No, Up/Down, Heroes/Villains, Messiahs/Devils.

That said, I'm glad to see you're using comic book and fantasy refernces, things with which you're most familiar.

#209 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2009-08-10 02:25 PM |

Krypton is not kryptonite. I looked it up before posting it because I KNEW you were out there, waiting.

Kryptonite is a fictional mineral from the Superman mythos, originating in the Superman radio show series.


en.wikipedia.org

84% of the people I choose to think are thinking about what I think they should be thinking about, if they were actually thinking about what I think they should be thinking about -- and assuming they actually exist somewhere over the rainbow -- would think the same thoughts I'm thinking about this thing I'm thinking about if they were actually thinking about it.

I think.

~Mrs. Haskell's Favorite Son

Rogue, the Black Knight. LOL!!!

#208 | Posted by Eddie

See, for that one to work you need the following elements:

1) Don't copy it from somebody else that just used it a little earlier

2) YOU can't be the one arguing the already disproven

'Kanrei, so you are saying that Pelosi didn't say that the town hall goers are un-American? '

She didn't, but once again, that didn't stop the mouth breathers from taking umbrage at what they pretend was said.

I know. Krypton is an element. But if you could make a compound with krypton, it might be kryptonite. Good luck with that.

It wasn't a slight Zat. You take science very seriously and are there to correct misconceptions. I knew of Krypton and I had a feeling you would correct me if I were wrong.

2) YOU can't be the one arguing the already disproven

#213 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

LOL!!!

She thinks she won! LOL!!

The Black Knight also thought he won and was left with no limbs to fight with.

You weren't wrong. I suspect a compound of krypton could be made even if it were short lived. Noble gasses aren't particularly reactive.

2) In 1783, Henry Cavendish (1731-1810) was studying the formation of nitrous oxide, sparking mixtures of nitrogen and oxygen, when he made the observation that there was always a little chemically unreactive gas left over[2]. However, he did nothing more on this, and his result lay dormant for more than a century. In 1894, Lord Rayleigh (1842-1919) and Sir William Ramsay (1852-1916) announced to the British Association the discovery of a new chemically unreactive element in the atmosphere that they named argon, "the lazy one." Ramsay went on to identify the other gaseous elements neon ("new"), krypton ("hidden"), and xenon ("alien" or "stranger"), so that a new column of elements must be added to Mendeleev's Periodic Table[3]. He and Rayleigh were awarded the Chemistry and Physics Nobel prizes, respectively, in 1904 for their discoveries. Helium was identified first in the Sun and was later found emanating from terrestrial rocks. The chemical inertness of the "noble" gases was explained by Bohr's quantum theory: It was due to the special stability of their complete outer electron shells. The unreactivity of helium, neon, argon, krypton, and xenon became a fundamental principle of chemistry, and it gave rise to theories of ionic and covalent bonding that are still in use today [4].

3) That all changed in 1961, when Bartlett first noticed that the ionization energies of O2 and xenon were nearly identical, and he then prepared the first xenon salt (originally formulated as XePtF6) [5]. Shortly afterward, XeF4, XeF2, XeOF4, and XeO3 were synthesized; today a whole range of compounds with xenon oxidation states ranging from 2 to 8 is known. Even compounds with xenon-carbon bonds have been prepared. The beginnings of analogous krypton chemistry have also been described, although no hints of true argon or neon chemistry have been detected to date. The noble gases are definitely not chemically inert species, however, if the reaction conditions are made right.

scienceweek.com

The Black Knight also thought he won and was left with no limbs to fight with.

#217 | Posted by Eddie

You haven't had a limb, or any other appendage here since your second post after signing up.

So while it might be possible to make a compound the proper name of which is kryptonite, it would not be radioactive in any sense and would pose no danger to Clark Kent.


'Kanrei, so you are saying that Pelosi didn't say that the town hall goers are un-American? '

She didn't, but once again, that didn't stop the mouth breathers from taking umbrage at what they pretend was said.

#214 | Posted by Danforth

Ok, whatever.

You want to argue semantics?

I am just saying that the people won't see it that way. Perhaps, they will, after they've pinch her tiny neck in half, realize that what she meant was the "action" of shouting down the opposition is un-American, not the people. OH! Sorry! My bad.


The Black Knight also thought he won and was left with no limbs to fight with.

#217 | Posted by Eddie

You haven't had a limb, or any other appendage here since your second post after signing up.

#220 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

LOL!!!

Oh Yeah? Well... You're a... Lying... Liar... WHO LIES!!!

LOL!!!

I am just saying that the people won't see it that way.

People are stupid and reactionary. If they thought about it, they would see it clearly, but they won't think. They will listen to Rush and Hannity and WND and Newsmax and Foxnews all paraphrase it and rip it from context and create a mob of screaming reactionaries.

You want to argue semantics?

#222 | Posted by Eddie

Words do have meanings. "Semantics" is YOUR standard weasel code to try to backpedal away from saying something stupid for the umpteenth time.

"You want to argue semantics? "

It's not semantics, it's a fact. She called their tactics un-American. You made the leap to her calling them un-American.

"Perhaps, they will, after they've pinch her tiny neck in half, realize that what she meant was the "action" of shouting down the opposition is un-American, not the people."

Um, it's not her tiny neck that's getting pinched. You're the one making a huge deal out of what is, ultimately, your purposeful misinterpretation.

I hope you people are satisfied now, having pushed poor Lil' Eddie over the edge like that.

You should be ashamed!

Oh Yeah? Well... You're a... Lying... Liar... WHO LIES!!!

LOL!!!

#223 | Posted by Eddie

One humorous note... when I post a link it generally supports my argument, not blows it to hell. You might want to rethink that "strategy" of yours.

People are stupid and reactionary. If they thought about it, they would see it clearly, but they won't think. They will listen to Rush and Hannity and WND and Newsmax and Foxnews all paraphrase it and rip it from context and create a mob of screaming reactionaries.

#224 | Posted by kanrei

So, knowing this, even using the word "Un-American" is a poor choice, wouldn't you agree?

Pelosi must be going nuts now.

"So, knowing this, even using the word "Un-American" is a poor choice, wouldn't you agree? "

Riiiiiiiiiight. All politicians should immediately dumb down to the level of the Hannitys and the Haskells. Man, that would solve ALL our problems!

Eddie,
I am no Pelosi fan, but this story is getting the traction it is getting not because of what Pelosi said, which 9 out of 10 Americans didn't hear, but in it being misreported by the right and repeated by people like you.

One humorous note... when I post a link it generally supports my argument, not blows it to hell. You might want to rethink that "strategy" of yours.

#228 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Really? Are you really that dumb? You think I am.

Look at the words! Understand that they could be taken a different way.

"These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. "

The people are saying:

Oh, so now our actions are un-American?

We are getting a health bill shoved down our throats and and we want to express our discontent with it. So this Bitch has the right to call us Un-American?

WOW !!

What's just floors me is that you are even defending it.

I know you want to protect what little political capital Obama and Pelosi have left, but you are wrong on this one and you know it.


Eddie,
I am no Pelosi fan, but this story is getting the traction it is getting not because of what Pelosi said, which 9 out of 10 Americans didn't hear, but in it being misreported by the right and repeated by people like you.

#231 | Posted by kanrei

Whatever. She made a mistake and the right are capitalizing on it.

Isn't that exactly what the left did to gain power?

It goes both ways you know.

But, this mistake is so priceless. She's a complete idiot out of touch with the people she serves.

Whatever.

LOL. YOu are shown to be wrong, and this is your response. Then, it is followed by words that reflect you not knowing you are wrong.

She's a complete idiot out of touch with the people she serves.

Smell your own kind?

'And at least I know how to spell 'blonde'"

Not misspelled, Chrissy - misused. "Blond" is the masculine form of "blonde." HE is blond, SHE is blonde.

Since you like correction so much, I thought I'd throw a little your way.

Isn't that exactly what the left did to gain power?

Strawman on line 2. If it is, then why are the right doing the same thing? I thought the right was better for not doing those things. If they are doing them because the left did, then obviously they place a higher value on winning over being honest and true.

"So this Bitch has the right to call us Un-American? " - Eddie

It is hilarious that people on the right get so upset at being correctly or incorrectly labelled "un-American". After all the years they spent calling people who opposed the war in Iraq "un-American". After A.Coulter called anyone who disagreed with her that and wanted them punished for it. And all those on the right agreed with her.

Most amusing is that the attitude displayed by Coulter and her supporters _is_ un-American.

LOL. YOu are shown to be wrong, and this is your response.
#234 | Posted by kanrei

Wait! I thought you were smart and you are being just as obtuse as the rest of the Libs here. What gives?

First, I said, Did Pelosi really say that these people are Un-American? WOW!

I wasn't really paying attention to the article and then I found it in USA today and sure enough, she said it.

Pelosi actually said it!

She will never live this one down.

This is Pelosi's Katrina.

#236

Well... duh.

And it goes both ways.

Zat says, "I know. Krypton is an element. But if you could make a compound with krypton, it might be kryptonite. Good luck with that."

No, it is presently just up to being 'kryptonate'

Good point AIL. I have spent the last 6 years being called an "America Hating Terrorist supporting Traitor." Screw your "feelings" being hurt over something that WASN'T said considering all the things YOU DID SAY about me.

#236 | Posted by kanrei

Ok, ok. Now you're trying to pick unrelevant things apart.

Let's get back to the subject.

Did Pelosi, in reference to the people at town hall meetings, use the word "un-American"?

that's a reasonable question, I think.

Did Pelosi, in reference to the people at town hall meetings, use the word "un-American"?

that's a reasonable question, I think.


No,you don't think Eddie, you react as you are told to and this proves it. She clearly described actions, not people. EVERY LINK of this story has the same quote.

Did Pelosi, in reference to the people at town hall meetings, use the word "un-American"?

that's a reasonable question, I think.

#242 | Posted by Eddie

Why you old goal post-shifter, you.

LOL!

Weaselhood suits you.


Good point AIL. I have spent the last 6 years being called an "America Hating Terrorist supporting Traitor."
#241 | Posted by kanrei

Why? What did you say? What did you do?

Screw your "feelings" being hurt over something that WASN'T said considering all the things YOU DID SAY about me.

Who said this and why?

The Black Knight also thought he won and was left with no limbs to fight with.
#217 | Posted by Eddie | Flag: Still Can't Separate Fact From Fantasy


Ok, ok. Now you're trying to pick unrelevant things apart.

No Eddie, you said "Isn't that exactly what the left did to gain power" and I answered. Don't bring up irrelevant things if you don't want them retorted.

Why? What did you say? What did you do?


I dared say Saddam had no WMDs and I dared question why we were going to war in Iraq. Criminal, I know.

Why you old goal post-shifter, you.

LOL!

Weaselhood suits you.

#244 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

This floors me.

I am very direct and to the point with the argument at hand and since you lost the argument, you accuse me of shift the goal posts?

It's more like you are seeing my original point and you are accusing me of shifting.

You are shifting, Rogue. You are not as obtuse as I thought. Just reluctant to admit it.

How ironic, because people who agree with her are Socialist. That's un-American the last time I checked.
#160 | Posted by Eddie

Well, check again, kiddo.

Pause...Take deep breath....

Actually, Eddie, that's one of the reasons you get laughed at so much: You don't bother checking before you shoot your mouth off. Perfect example: All your posts above about Pelosi calling people "un-Anerican." Backed off that one, too, didn't you, Lil' Mr. 84%er?

#249 | Posted by Eddie | Flag: Tedious Whiner

It's more like you are seeing my original point and you are accusing me of shifting.

#249 | Posted by Eddie

Seriously?

I mean, do you REALLY think you're fooling anyone here?

Do you think no one notices the pattern you follow consistently: say something stupid, fail in defending or substantiating it, then gradually try to shift the argument over a few posts to obscure your original contention.

It's not like it obvious or anything.

The next steps are usually: disappear for a while, then come back and pretend like it never happened.

84% of all DR posters agree that this is accurate.

I dared say Saddam had no WMDs and I dared question why we were going to war in Iraq. Criminal, I know.

#248 | Posted by kanrei

Yes, you were right.

That is a discussion for another day.

I thought the same as you and still do.


How ironic, because people who agree with her are Socialist. That's un-American the last time I checked.
#160 | Posted by Eddie

Well, check again, kiddo.

#250 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

LOL! What?

Pelosi is NOT pushing Obama's Socialist agenda? Say it isn't so!

I thought the same as you and still do.

#253 | Posted by Eddie

So please, please like me and stop hurting me, mkay?

-E

No Eddie, it is a discussion for today because the people complaining they were called un-American today are the ones who threw the label around yesterday and, unlike yesterday, NOBODY actually said that about them.

"How ironic, because people who agree with her are Socialist. That's un-American the last time I checked."

Being socialist is "un-American"? When did this happen? Or is agreeing with her "un-American"?

Yet again, someone who resents being called "un-American" is quick to slap that label on others. Talk about lack of credibility! LOL!!

Do you think no one notices the pattern you follow consistently: say something stupid, fail in defending or substantiating it, then gradually try to shift the argument over a few posts to obscure your original contention.

#252 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Pelosi said that these People are Un-American

It's in a National Newspaper.

OH! I see. She didn't say THE PEOPLE are un-American, just their actions. I see.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

You, Obama, and Pelosi (Oh! and Bill Maher) think that the people of the US are as stupid as you.

Prove me otherwise.

You obtuse behavior just floors me.

Pelosi said that these People are Un-American

It's in a National Newspaper.

FF for Eddie

#254 | Posted by Eddie at 2009-08-10 03:25 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: Still Doesn't Know What Socialism Is And Still Thinks It's Inherently "Un-American"...ROTFLMAO

Yet again, someone who resents being called "un-American" is quick to slap that label on others. Talk about lack of credibility! LOL!!

#257 | Posted by AILtd

They grow teeth when backed into a corner.

Eddie, shiny tinsel floors you.

84% of all DR posters agree that this is accurate.
#252 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Or 150,000,000

They grow teeth when backed into a corner.

#261 | Posted by Eddie | Flag: GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!


#254 | Posted by Eddie at 2009-08-10 03:25 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: Still Doesn't Know What Socialism Is And Still Thinks It's Inherently "Un-American"...ROTFLMAO

#260 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

The bill is calling for the creation of yet another government-run Insurance agency. This is not a private agency. It will be "owned" by the government. Just another Socialist agency.

To this day, you will not define Socialism.


Eddie, shiny tinsel floors you.

#262 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

you will never give up will you?

When you lose, you accuse me of shifting the goal-post. You do this all the time.

#266 | Posted by Eddie at 2009-08-10 03:34 PM | Reply | Flag: 84%..."Un-American"...150 million..."Socialism"
...Sputter...Sputter...Free-
Fall...KA-BOOM!

When you lose,

#266 | Posted by Eddie

LOL! Not to you son, not to you.

"They grow teeth when backed into a corner."

Looks more like they act like children when called out.


Do you think no one notices the pattern you follow consistently: say something stupid, fail in defending or substantiating it, then gradually try to shift the argument over a few posts to obscure your original contention.

#252 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

And your pattern is to attack, re-attack, get proven wrong, lose the argument, make fun of the opponent, then accuse the opponent of "Shifting the Goal-posts"

you lose,
#266 | Posted by Eddie

LOL! Not to you son, not to you.

#268 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Of course not! Behaving like a child is so much better. you could never lose.

#270 | Posted by Eddie | Flag: www.tradebit.com

#270 | Posted by Eddie | Flag: www.tradebit.com

Prove me otherwise.

#258 | Posted by Eddie at 2009-08-10 03:29 PM | Reply |

You are a stupid fuck.

You've spent the entire thread telling us that Pelosi did something that she clearly didn't. I'd guess you finally figured out you were wrong around post #183. Somewhere abouts post #222 you lamely attempt to pretend you knew you were offering a bullshit argument.

In #229 you seem to believe you've got a new angle, but by #232 you seem to have forgotten that you realized you had been wrong the whole time.

The fact is Pelosi didn't call the protesters un-american. You know it, I know it. The difference being nobody needed to bash me over the head with explanations and common sense for me to know this.

The fact is Pelosi didn't call the protesters un-american. You know it, I know it. The difference being nobody needed to bash me over the head with explanations and common sense for me to know this.

#274 | Posted by 101Chairborne

You just another dumb-fuck, 101. LOL. How old are you?

Tell me. What or Who did Pelosi call Un-American?

Just answer the stupid question .

What or Who did Pelosi call Un-American?

Just answer the stupid question

There are no stupid questions, just stupid people. So you are asking what Pelosi was calling Un-American when she said "Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American." I will give you one guess. Could it be maybe, I don't know, possibly "drowning out opposing views?"

Just answer the stupid question .

#275 | Posted by Eddie

Heh, heh, heh.

You've spent the entire thread telling us that Pelosi did something that she clearly didn't. I'd guess you finally figured out you were wrong around post #183. Somewhere abouts post #222 you lamely attempt to pretend you knew you were offering a bullshit argument.

#274 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Translation: It took that many posts to realize that you, youselves are as stupid as you think the "Town hall goers" are.

You idiots are probably embarressed at what Pelosi said and are defending her. You defend her to the point of being childish.

This is truly amazing!

#278 | Posted by Eddie at 2009-08-10 03:53 PM | Reply | Flag:Should just be typing "DUH" at this point in the conversation to save himself time

Heavy bag Eddie.

There are no stupid questions, just stupid people. So you are asking what Pelosi was calling Un-American when she said "Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American." I will give you one guess. Could it be maybe, I don't know, possibly "drowning out opposing views?"

#276 | Posted by kanrei

Yes. And "drowning out opposing views?" are the actions of whom?

LOL.

This game is fun.

You just another dumb-fuck, 101. LOL. How old are you?

Tell me. What or Who did Pelosi call Un-American?

Just answer the stupid question .

#275 | Posted by Eddie at 2009-08-10 03:48 PM | Reply

Hey stupid, you posted the link with Pelosi's words. Why don't you read them, and tell the rest of the class what she was speaking of...Or you could read #276 (the bolded letters form words, read them).

Honestly, you're putting us on, right?

Yes. And "drowning out opposing views?" are the actions of whom?

LOL.

This game is fun.


So now a single actions defines a person? I cannot say you are "acting stupid" without it meaning I am calling you stupid? Eddie, get a clue; they are cheap.

Hey stupid, you posted the link with Pelosi's words. Why don't you read them, and tell the rest of the class what she was speaking of...Or you could read #276 (the bolded letters form words, read them).

Honestly, you're putting us on, right?

#282 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Goddamn! You're smarter than I thought. You are behaving like a moron to avoid the question.

Man,
If Chair is the voice of reason, you know this thread is unsalvageable.

You idiots are probably embarressed at what Pelosi said and are defending her. You defend her to the point of being childish.

This is truly amazing!

#278 | Posted by Eddie at 2009-08-10 03:53 PM | Reply

Dummy,
There isn't a bigger Dem basher here than me. That was the point of #186.

The chances of San, Sarvis, and me ever being on the same page are slim, and none. Guess what, we all agree that you're a fucking dumbshit.


So now a single actions defines a person? I cannot say you are "acting stupid" without it meaning I am calling you stupid? Eddie, get a clue; they are cheap.

#283 | Posted by kanrei

Ok, The outstanding question is:
Yes. And "drowning out opposing views?" are the actions of whom?

You're doing very well at trying to squirm out of this one, but you guys are making soooo much progress.

You are behaving like a moron to avoid the question.

Posted by Eddie at 2009-08-10 03:57 PM | Reply

See Eddie. Right here you did not describe 101 as a moron, but you said he was behaving like one. See the difference? It means you don't think he normally acts that way, or else there was no need to point it out this time and, if you thought he was a moron, then you would also not need to point out his acting that way because how else would a moron act?

Eddie, what's the frequency?

The chances of San, Sarvis, and me ever being on the same page are slim, and none. Guess what, we all agree that you're a fucking dumbshit.

#286 | Posted by 101Chairborne

I don't care which side you're on, you're still a moron, or pretend to be.

You are behaving like a moron to avoid the question.

#284 | Posted by Eddie at 2009-08-10 03:57 PM | Reply

The question was answered. Are you fucking retarded?
"Drowning out opposing views" is the answer. Not the one you were looking for, but the only answer.

You've long ago entered BuffaloBoOb territory, dummy.

"This game is fun." - Eddie

Lying and cheating are fun - interesting. The question is, what does that say about the person doing those actions?


You are behaving like a moron to avoid the question.

Posted by Eddie at 2009-08-10 03:57 PM | Reply

See Eddie. Right here you did not describe 101 as a moron, but you said he was behaving like one. See the difference? It means you don't think he normally acts that way, or else there was no need to point it out this time and, if you thought he was a moron, then you would also not need to point out his acting that way because how else would a moron act?

#288 | Posted by kanrei

MAN!!!!

you're almost there. All you have to do is answer the question:

And "drowning out opposing views?" are the actions of whom?


"This game is fun." - Eddie

Lying and cheating are fun - interesting. The question is, what does that say about the person doing those actions?

#292 | Posted by AILtd

Defending their own rights is "lying and cheating"?

Care to elaborate?

You guys are almost there.

SAY IT! SAY IT!

Just answer the question.

So, what I hear you saying is that it's ok for Congressmen to not listen to their constituents, but it's NOT ok for those constituents to get upset and angry and "right" the wrongs?

I can't believe it! Pelosi actually said these people were un-American. WOW!!!!

#176 | Posted by Eddie

Here's where it all began... Eddie wading in, stupid from the get-go, and then getting smeared for 115 posts or so.

The question was answered. Are you fucking retarded?
"Drowning out opposing views" is the answer. Not the one you were looking for, but the only answer.

#291 | Posted by 101Chairborne

This moron act is not an act is it?

I don't care which side you're on, you're still a moron, or pretend to be.

#290 | Posted by Eddie

If only YOU were only pretending, but alas...

"Defending their own rights is "lying and cheating"?"

No, your shucking and jiving is. Come on, take that baby step. Admit your stupidity. It's the first step in the healing process.

Here's where it all began... Eddie wading in, stupid from the get-go, and then getting smeared for 115 posts or so.

#295 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Un-fucking-believable.

We are almost there and you won't answer the question.

You know why? Because only now, after so many posts, you realize that you were wrong.

Pelosi said that this act is Un-American:

And "drowning out opposing views?" are the actions of whom?

You are so close! Just admit it!

"An independent body FactCheck.org part of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania, asked to see a copy of the original during last year's campaign. FactCheck is non-partisan and takes all sorts of politicians' claims to task. Here's its take on Obama's birth certificate: "FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving US citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. . . Our conclusion: Obama was born in the USA just as he has always said...."

the conspiracy part in me would love it if Obama's former employer ~ the Cia had indeed done all the foot work to make his birth records seem legit.

But to be realistic, it would have been simply impossible to do with the two Hawaiian papers having his birth announcement records just for starters...

So with this in mind, I tend to agree with Sullivan's over all premises here.

Finally, if the CIA did pull this off and Obama was party to it ~ I can't think of a more qualified person to be running our government ~ any government ~ that has those crazy owners of the FED really running the show ~ than Obama at least in a potential position as adversary!

At least we know we have someone as slick as the FED on to their type of games & we as a republic may eventually benefit yet from this arrangement...at least better than any other fellow outside of Ron Paul telling the Fed to get lost!

Pelosi said that this act is Un-American:

And "drowning out opposing views?" are the actions of whom?

You are so close! Just admit it!

#299 | Posted by Eddie

Good! Silence speaks volumes.

"the conspiracy part in me would love it if Obama's former employer ~ the Cia had indeed done all the foot work to make his birth records seem legit."

Okay, I'll bite: Link?

Eddie,
Please take the below post to your Phonics teacher. Come back tomorrow, and then apologize for being so fucking stupid.
-Everyone

There are no stupid questions, just stupid people. So you are asking what Pelosi was calling Un-American when she said "Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American." I will give you one guess. Could it be maybe, I don't know, possibly "drowning out opposing views?"

#276 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-08-10 03:50 PM | Reply

Good! Silence speaks volumes.

#301 | Posted by Eddie

no .. you are just a fucking retard. Too bad your daddy didn't ass fuck your momma that night she was ovulating..I guess he was too high or drunk and she didn't have a better beau to bone.

Good! Silence speaks volumes.

#301 | Posted by Eddie

Sometimes its more fun to just listen to sound of you pulling more dirt in over your your head.


Eddie,
Please take the below post to your Phonics teacher. Come back tomorrow, and then apologize for being so fucking stupid.
-Everyone

#303 | Posted by 101Chairborne

No one could answer a simple question, 101. Why? Because in the answer was my point.

You missed it. You're an idiot. It's not an act is it?

Everyone else has a stake to defend. You don't. You're just arrogant and idiotic.

Being socialist is "un-American"? When did this happen? Or is agreeing with her "un-American"?

Cmon, Eddie, answer the simple question. You are soooooo close to healing your stupidity. Just a little step will do it.

Andy says, "... Once again, the Supreme court ruled on a state court's ruling without the authority to do so."

What a lie! This case went through Florida courts to the US Supreme Court, at the insistence of Gore and the DNC, not because the Supreme Court took some illicit 'authority' to do so! What a creep lie you tell yourself, this way!

Your whines, based on political calumny, demonstrates the zealous refusal to abide by the Democratic process of government, established by the Constitution of the United States of America.

When somed decision has the effect of 'making law,' you puling progressives cheer the Supreme Court, but if things aren't decided your way?

You F'ing wannabe tyrants scream in intransigent hysteria, lying and defaming, rather than cooperating in agreement with the constitutional process!

Political weasels, who viciously attack the very document and process that guarantees their right to cry like the hypocritical children of politics - holding your breath, turning blue until you get your selfish way(s) ...

... slimey vermin infesting the body politic ...

OH SHIT! Somebody crazier than Eddie is here. SCRAM!

This case went through Florida courts to the US Supreme Court, at the insistence of Gore and the DNC...

#308 | Posted by tadowe

Which would, of course, explain why the case before the court was entitled Bush v. Gore.

LOL!


Good! Silence speaks volumes.

#301 | Posted by Eddie

Sometimes its more fun to just listen to sound of you pulling more dirt in over your your head.

#305 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Don't be a spoiled sport. You'll win one day. This is typical of you. So sad.

Don't be a spoiled sport. You'll win one day. This is typical of you. So sad.

#311 | Posted by Eddie

Heh, heh, heh.

Eddie won't answer my questions. "Good! Silence speaks volumes." His credibility was at stake - and he failed. And, without credibility, he has no position. Such is life.

Lacking credibility since November 11, 2007. That's our l'il Eddie!


Lacking credibility since November 11, 2007. That's our l'il Eddie!

#314 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

You can't let it go can you? You take losing hard don't you?

This is really sad.

#315 | Posted by Eddie

Aw, Eddie is having a hard time dealing with his lack of credibility. Don't keep picking on him San!


#315 | Posted by Eddie

Aw, Eddie is having a hard time ...

#316 | Posted by AILtd

No, you are having a hard time with me ignoring your attempt to change the subject.

Nice try though.

Notice the silence around here?

"Notice the silence around here?" - Eddie

Yeah, that would be your brainlock. You have my sysmpathy since you obviously can't restore your credibility. Hell, you obviously understand that you can't because you don't even try. Which is a positive step for you.

"the conspiracy part in me would love it if Obama's former employer ~ the Cia had indeed done all the foot work to make his birth records seem legit."

Okay, I'll bite: Link?

#302 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis


Which ones?

I first heard about it from my wisguy buddy in Chicago via this fellow...

Obama Revealed as a CIA Agent

by Tom Heneghan

International Intelligence Expert

Wednesday February 25, 2009

Donnorboy found this link which has a few spellin' errors thus disproving it, of course:>)

Friday, January 09, 2009
OBAMA WORKS FOR THE CIA?

operation-
mockingbird.blogspot.com

see if this link works better here...

Friday, January 09, 2009
OBAMA WORKS FOR THE CIA?

operation-
mockingbird.blogspot.com

Obama Revealed as a CIA Agent

http://www.stewwebb.com

http://www.stewwebb.com

Wednesday February 25, 2009
s

by Tom Heneghan

International Intelligence Expert

www.stewwebb.com

does this prove it?...not as much as 911 to me was an inside job to the core:>)

Birthers must give way to Bonders, James Bonders.

read this carefully and you will see MORE QUESTIONABLE behavior reported here from obama as well as the staterun media

HELP US FORCE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA TO PRODUCE
HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND OTHER DOCUMENTS!

In recent weeks, the liberal media, especially Chris Matthews of Hard Ball and Keith Olbermann of MSNBC, have gone to great lengths to attack and ridicule those who question whether Barack Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States.

Recently, a liberal columnist raised the interesting question of why are these "attack dogs" so viciously going after any of those who would raise such a question. The columnist pointed out that this issue was hardly touched at all by the media during the 2008 election, despite the fact that it was brought up by then Senator Hillary Clinton and despite the lawsuit filed by Democrat activist Phil Berg on the subject. So his question was, "why now?"

In my opinion, the simple reason is that the question as to whether Mr. Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States has become a national issue--as a result of efforts by the United States Justice Foundation and by WorldNetDaily.com. According to recent polls, over half of the public in the United States are aware of this issue, and over forty percent want the matter resolved. As a result, these "attack dogs" have gone on the attack and are hoping to discredit, demoralize, or destroy anyone who dares raise the question.

Case in point: the recent attacks on Lou Dobbs. Lou Dobbs has stated that he does NOT believe the claims that Mr. Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States. However, he HAS questioned why Mr. Obama has not made public his actual birth certificate. He has also had guests on his show who question the eligibility of Mr. Obama to serve as President. However, the "attack dogs" in the media, and radical groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, will not tolerate ANY free speech on this issue

Anyone who questions the eligibility of Mr. Obama to be President, even in an innocent way of suggesting that he produce his actual birth certificate to resolve the issue, is immediately -- and viciously -- attacked. These "attack dogs," even including the superiors of Mr. Dobbs at CNN, will tolerate no contradiction to their views.

CNN even went to the bizarre extent of claiming that Mr. Obama's actual birth certificate was destroyed in 2001, thus, essentially, calling Hawaii State Officials -- who claim to have seen it -- liars. The extent to which these "attack dogs" will go knows no bounds!

But I can promise you this: We will NOT be bullied into stopping our quest for the TRUTH -- but we need YOUR help to keep going!

HELP US FORCE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA TO PRODUCE
HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND OTHER DOCUMENTS!

preceeding was email I got from one of my MANUFACTORED MOBRULE NAZI ORGANIZED places..

and I am in the position of lou dobbs so dont get all slobbery with your insults over me...

I just 'reports um as I sees us."

Birthers must give way to Bonders, James Bonders.

#322 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

and as I posted the last time you posted this above ~ OPJB is still the best Ian Flemming book out there that will u will probably never read because Winnie Churchill & Ian letterhead certified letters attesting to the veracity of the books statements isn't kosher at MSU drama department:>)

reilly.typepad.com

but then Jimmy Carter saw UFO's, so thus was unfit for command ever...

HELP US FORCE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA TO PRODUCE
HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND OTHER DOCUMENTS!

#323 | Posted by afkabl2

get a life, like a mean virgin...

IM JUST SAYING

this article has places in it..IF TRUE>..throw out every argument made by libs

for instance
it was destroyed in 2001? AFTER officials say they saw it
and what of olberman and matthews involvement

and the treatment of dobbs who SAYS WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT HE believes obama is a citizen..they have come after his wife and children as well.......

IM just saying...where theres smoke...there's fire

and a rose is a rose is a rose

and ..anyone know anymore platitudes...

DOBBS situation

cnn has come after him and other staterun media after his family

WHY even after admitting his belief that obama is OK..
are they Trying to silence him from even asking questions??????


FWTHOM, I can't decide whether you are a spoofer or you are really as ignorant as you seem from your posts.

(Based on reading your posts over the months, I'm gonna go with "spoofer")

#9 | Posted by WhoDaMan


No. I've been reading his posts longer than that. He's an asshole of crystalline purity. A prime example of celebretory ignorance: Ignoramus americanus.

101 appears to be a stalking horse for the ignorant Democrats, "OH SHIT! Somebody crazier than Eddie is here. SCRAM!"

I so enjoy having partisans commenting about me, ad hominem. The only thing more enjoyable is finding one who attacks me, that is supposedly a 'conservative.'

You reveal yourself by issuing your petty little orders (SCRAM!)

I'm the one with the internet power to invoke your neurtotic response, 101, not your ineffective shout, echoing the 'liberal' liars, in this thread.

Come on back and reply, dufus, and let's see if you can pretend that you're not the stalker, now ...

'liberal' liars, in this thread.

#331 | Posted by tadowe

They're not liars. They truly believe what they say. I'm not sure which is the more pathetic...

They truly believe what they say. I'm not sure which is the more pathetic...

#332 | Posted by Eddie

Yeah. Some of people even believe that Gore and the Democrats brought the lawsuit that was decided by the Supreme Court in 2000.

Sanan won't face it, "Some of people even believe that Gore and the Democrats brought the lawsuit that was decided by the Supreme Court in 2000."

See? Only heuristic understanding is exercised by partisan zealots.

Sanan truly believes that when the Florida Secretary of State announced for Bush, according to law, that it was Bush who started the litigation.

Isn't it sad, when the leftists can't accept the results of an election they lose (except that they can recount a change as they've done so obviously, lately) but must lie about lying about the issue for a decade, now?

Pitiful partisan progressives and, or pusillanimous poltroons ...

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