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Saturday, August 08, 2009

Someone I know (not me) made this video of Hanifia hunter-beef (shredded beef) burger.

I added the music which was suggested by none other than Goatee (it's one his favorite songs).

This burger chain has been around in Pakistan since 1889 (19th century) when they used to feed the British army in Simla (now India).

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Now that Baitullah Mehsud is deader than dead, let us enjoy a burger or two from the oldest burger chain in the Indian-Subcontinent (possibly in all of Asia).

This is a hunter-beef burger, mind you. Yes, there is cheese, but no burger-pate. Just shredded beef. It tastes very different than a normal burger.

No onions, no french-fires. This is the way they have been doing it for a hundred years.

A Pak-Canadian friend of mine sez "The best I've eaten so far, even beats Arby's Roast Beef or BK's Whopper!"

I'll eat a burger in celebration of the death of that fucker...

Watch the video:

www.vimeo.com

Healthy people read no further.
The best way to make a cheeseburger is to use cheese-whiz. I kid you not. Try it on kids (the least likely to conceal the taste of bad food).

The secret to Hanifia's unique taste is their secret Mustard recipe.

They got a regular and a super-hot kind.

I got jars of their mustard in my fridge and I use it for everything.

Watch the video full-screen. Vimeo's quality is far better than stupid YouTube.

And hunter-beef has no fat.

You can eat a million of these and not get fat.

Unfortunately you also get hungry again an hour later... just like Chinese food.

That ain't a hamburger or a cheeseburger.

It's a loose meat sandwhich. State side, we call it a sloppy joe or loose meat sandwhich.

Regardless, the sammich does look good. I like that he's slicing tomatoes and cucumber for it right there. We can't get that in a fast food join in the US of A.

btw, what's in the mustard sauce?

You sure that isn't camel meat?

State side, we call it a sloppy joe or loose meat sandwhich.


OK... over here it's called "hunter-beef".


btw, what's in the mustard sauce?


Don't know. All I know is I can't get enough of it.

You sure that isn't camel meat?


Bet you would like some in your dumpster no? LOL

If Twinpac hadn't told me what a sucker you are....

Hey guys, go to this thread and see what a loser Jackass is! LOL

www.drudge.com

What? Beef burgers are not allowed in India?


HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's a loose meat sandwhich.


This one was known as a hunter-beef burger.

There other very different loose-meat sandwiches here that have barbecued kababs in them. I love those too but they are not hunter-beef.

I also like another burger that has no meat in it but tastes like meat. Veggies, potatoes and soybean fried in egg.

What? Beef burgers are not allowed in India?


Well, Hindu's have been known to kill beef-eaters.

Try and eat a beef burger in front of a Brahmin .. see what happens (nothing nice). LOL

They will drink cow-piss (we call that "hindoo-cola") but they will not eat beef and will stop others from doing so.

How did you like Goatee's music?

He told me about Jimmy Buffet and I thought the song fit. LOL

OK... over here it's called "hunter-beef".

Is that an approximate translation to english or is there some historical origin of the name?

Have you ever had a "traditional" American hamburger?

is there some historical origin of the name?


This might help. "Hunter Beef" seems to be a Pakistani only thing. I asked around from American-Pak and they say you can't compare it to a "sloppy joe". The taste is different.

Google for it.

Hunter Beef is a very popular snack from Pakistan. We have it in the cold winter evenings with Kashmir tea or coffee. Some people like to fry stripes of hunter beef and then serve with tea or coffee. Left over can be kept in the fridge for few days and can also be stored in freezer for longer period of storage.

Or

Roast Cut Beef 1.5-2 kg
2tsp crystalized salt, koasher (spell) salt is kind of same thing
2-3tsp of blk paper
1-1.5tsp of cinamon powder
2tsp of brown sugar
3-4tbsp lemon juice

Dry the beef loaf with a paper towel. Make a paste with the spices and lemon juice. Rub the paste on the beef loaf. Cover in a bowl and leave it in the fridge. Next day take it out, turn it and message the marrinate on the loaf for few mins. Put it back. She said normally people message it for 15 mins or so and reapeat the process for 6-7 days but she just marinated it for couple days.
When you are ready to bake it, take it out, from one corner to another tie it with a thread. Put the loaf in a baking pan. Put any remaining marinate in the pan, not on the loaf. Then take 2 cups of water and pour it in the baking pan, not the loaf. She said if you have some sort of broath you can subsitute that with water but just make sure it is not to muck salty or ou can dilute one cup of broath with one cup of water. Then bake it in the owen n 350 for about 2.5-3 hours or when you see there is no more liquid in the pan. When done, take it out and leave it for 5 mins or so. After 5 mins, cut the string and slice it.


Have you ever had a "traditional" American hamburger?


If you mean a fat beef pate and some cheese and onion rings, then everyone in the world has had one of those.

And then there is McDonald's. LOL

What is a "traditional American" burger to you?

www.khanapakana.com

www.khanapakana.com

The only people who are qualified to say if this is different to a normal American burger, are Pakistani-Americans and Pakistani-Canadians, who have had both types.

They say they don't get this one over there in Canada or US. And they looked real hard hungering for some of that old Karachi taste.

historical origin of the name?


From what I understand, it is marinated and cured using spices and lemon more than it is cooked. Something a hunter would do to preserve the meat.

I'd rather have a pulled pork with vinegar and cole slaw mounted on top.


rwd

The only people who are qualified to say if this is different to a normal American burger, are Pakistani-Americans and Pakistani-Canadians, who have had both types.

You fucking crazy Paki, you really got your head up your ass this time.

Trying to compare a cheeseburger to a sliced meat sandwich is ludicrous.

I say it is different, and I don't need your permission to say so.

I say it is different


But that is what *I* said too.

I said this is not like your normal cheese burger.


You fucking crazy Paki, you really got your head up your ass this time.


Just like a motherfucking Amreekan. Can't stand the thought of someone else having a better or different burger. LOL

A burger is a burger. Made with ground beef. It isn't sliced marinated meat.

If it's not like your normal cheeseburger, then it is not a cheeseburger.

If it's not like your normal cheeseburger, then it is not a cheeseburger.


You are getting hooked up on language...

Pakistani-English (yes there is such a thing) is different that American-English.

Over here, anything and everything with a bun, is a "burger". If it's got cheese inside it's a "cheese burger". It doesn't matter if it's got a pate or marinated hunter-beef or barbecue lamb or barbecued chicken-tikka inside... to us it's a "cheese burger".

If it's got slices of bread, it is called a "sandwich".

If you don't like calling it a "cheese burger" then don't... call it "that thing".

What you call a cheeseburger more closely resembles a torta.

en.wikipedia.org

What you call a cheeseburger more closely resembles a torta.


We don't speak Mexicanish. Nobody knows what a "torta" is.

I don't know what a torta tastes like, so I have no idea if it is similar or not.

However I did have Mexican food here, but it was a failure... it just tasted like Pakistani food only 3 times more expensive and with less spices. People stopped buying it for that reason. LOL

Looks tasty, Tosser.

Reminded me of the Arby's Roast Beef Sandwich food chain here in the U.S.

hahaha, just now saw this comment in your first post after I had mentioned Arby's --

"...A Pak-Canadian friend of mine sez "The best I've eaten so far, even beats Arby's Roast Beef or BK's Whopper!"...

Arby's Roast Beef Sandwich


A Pakistani-Canadian friend of mine said Arby's tastes different than Hanifia's hunter-beef or hunter-chicken burgers.

And that beef is in slices .... not shredded and certainly not lemon-marinated.

Reminded me of the Arby's Roast Beef Sandwich food chain here in the U.S.


So you would call that a "sandwich"?

Over here that would be called a "burger".

Different languages even though we are both speaking english...

I am really pissed Goatee's internet people have blocked his access to internet video.

I wanted him to see this. He really likes this song and he likes burgers.

Where is he, btw? On his regular break?

How good is Arby's, btw? I don't think I have seen them around here.

If I do, I would love to try them out.

So you would call that a "sandwich"?

Over here that would be called a "burger".

Different languages even though we are both speaking english...

- Tosser


We call it roast beef slices served on a burger bun.

"Burger" over here refers only to the meat -- hamburger -- not the type of bread it's served on.

Whereas "sandwich" is whatever you want to put on "bread" which includes sliced bread, a hamburger bun, whatever.

For you, Tosser -- Arby's home webpage

Arby's Roast Beef Sandwiches

"Burger" over here refers only to the meat -- hamburger -- not the type of bread it's served on.


I see...

Over here... for some reason... "Burger" refers to the type of bread it's made of.

If they use a burger bun, it's a "burger". If they use sliced bread, it's a "sandwich".

It doesn't matter what is inside.

So it is the opposite of what you do. LOL

I am really pissed Goatee's internet people have blocked his access to internet video.

Where is he, btw? On his regular break?

#31 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-08-08 03:02 PM

I dunno. Try checking his userpage.

For example, last night I got an "egg and grilled chicken and cheese burger". It was in a burger bun so they called it a burger.

A week before, I had the same thing in bread slices, so it was called a "club sandwich".

www.thenewstribune.com

The El Gaucho Burger is the best in the world.

For you, Tosser -- Arby's home webpage


Well this is certainly something I would try out. My kinda food.

Do you like them? Arby's? Do people like them?

I have a good pal from South Africa who traveled all across the US recently... he's a crazy guy who likes to travel and he lives on fast-food.

He said the very best burger he had was in Las Vegas.

The El Gaucho Burger is the best in the world.


Maybe... but I can tell you where you can get the worst burgers in the world.

According to me globe trotting South African buddy, you get the WORST BURGERS IN THE WORLD in.... drum roll.... Australia!

So it is the opposite of what you do. LOL

#35 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-08-08 03:09 PM |

Bingo! It's only called a "hamburger" when there's a hamburger patty on the hamburger roll. If there is no hamburger inside the roll then it's merely a "hamburger roll" which puts it in the bread category. If some type meat other than a regular hamburger on the hamburger roll, then it's usually referred to as a "sandwich."

Australians have pretty nice food generally but they can't do burgers.

They put .. what is that sliced veggie in salads that leaves red stains?.. they put THAT in a burger like normal people would put a cucumber.

Plus they use something called "Vegemite" (looks and tastes like engine grease) without warning.

Worst burger I ever had was at a Wendy's in the Frankfurt main ban hof.

It was so nasty and horrible in there that the bathrooms didn't have doors and the toilets were smashed and unusable.

They just piled up the garbage in one corner of the reastaurant and when I got my food, I spit out the one bite I had taken and threw out the rest, even though I was dying for a Wendy's burger.

It's only called a "hamburger" when there's a hamburger patty on the hamburger roll.


I get it... since we don't use ham or pork here, the "hamburger" took on a different meaning.

If some type meat other than a regular hamburger on the hamburger roll, then it's usually referred to as a "sandwich."


I had better remember this or I will end up very confused if I ever go out of Pakistan and order a "burger". LOL

Thanks for the recipe. Next time I do a roast beef, I might try half of it like that. I wonder how long it will hold in the fridge.

A traditional, American hamburger or cheeseburger is a patty of ground beef (I use 1 part sirloin to 2 parts ground chuck) served on a roll. Add cheese for the cheeseburger.

There are a vast array of condiments you can put on a hamburger, but purists tend to get offended if you go for more than tomato, onion and ketchup.

Never put mayo on a hamburger. For me, it's spicy mustard, a sweet bbq sauce, tomato and onion. The bun should be lightly toasted. I just throw it on the grill and let it soak up some of the fat that's dripped off of the patty.

When I eat burgers, there's little concern for cholesterol or fat. Do yourself a favor though. If you ever try to grill your own burger, don't use gas. Use hardwood or charcoal if you can get it.

Use hardwood or charcoal if you can get it.


We call them barbecue burgers or "boti tikka burgers". And yes they taste better... at least I like them. I always have a double-decker with cheese.

A traditional, American hamburger or cheeseburger is a patty of ground beef (I use 1 part sirloin to 2 parts ground chuck) served on a roll. Add cheese for the cheeseburger.


Yes, that is the most common kind here.


but purists tend to get offended if you go for more than tomato, onion and ketchup.


This is what I like about the Hanifia hunter-beef... no onions, no mayo. Just tomato, cucumber and their secret super-duper mustard.

Otherwise most kinds of burgers here are always full of mayo.

"This is what I like about the Hanifia hunter-beef... no onions, no mayo. Just tomato, cucumber and their secret super-duper mustard."

Poor bastard.

You'll never experience the savory taste of a pulled pork barbecue sandwich. Much better than beef.

The best burger i ever had was at Greasewood flats in AZ.

Used to stop there every Saturday after dirt biking.

All the state land has been sold around Pinnacle Peak, so you can't ride there anymore.

Haven't been back to GF since.

You'll never experience the savory taste of a pulled pork barbecue sandwich.


I will also never experience the massive heart attack you are looking forward to.

Poor bastard indeed.

Tosser you disappointed me. I insulted Islam and the Prophet Muhammad and you said nothing. My firiends would have cursed whoever did that and wished death upon them. Are you not a true Muslim?

Tosser you disappointed me.


No... you will be truly disappointed when they shove that useless "certificate" up your bum.

Hey, everyone, Jackass has been trying to convince me and Twinpac that he is smart because he will pay $1400 to a company to hire him!

That makes him a sucker in my book.

And why are you trying to tell us about it??? We are not interested? Don't you understand the phrase "not interested"?


Are you not a true Muslim?


Are you "certified"? hahahahahahahahahahaha

Gawd I am good....

Tosser the fake muslim continues to lie.

"I will also never experience the massive heart attack you are looking forward to."

Since you're a halaldiot, i wouldn't expect you to know pork is healthier for you than beef.

Tosser the fake muslim continues to lie.


Where and when did I lie???

The video proves I am not lying about anything.

You, however, have not sent me the video proof you said you would about your "karate". Liar. LOL

pork is healthier for you than beef.


Keep up with that.

Maybe I will visit you in hospital one day when you have swine-flu and a heart attack.

Tosser the fake muslim continues to lie.


"I pay 1400 and they train me."

These are YOUR words, mate.

It's on the job training. You are WORKING FOR THEM after paying them 1400 dollars to hire you! hahahahahahaha

Moron. No wonder you are always so burned up around here. You just can't figure out why you are being left behind. LOL

"Tosser the fake muslim continues to lie."

Since Pakistan is 95% Muslim, if he's Pakistani, he's probably one.

It's only 1000 and it's training not working.

Since Pakistan is 95% Muslim, if he's Pakistani, he's probably one.


He is definitely one and quite proud of it too.

It's well worth 1000 bucks. I'll make it back in a week.

It's only 1000


See? Your stories again keep changing.

You lied about your karate background. You lied about your dojo and sent me pics you swiped online.

And now you lie about it being $1000 when you SAID it was $1400.

"I pay 1400 and they train me."

These are YOUR words, mate.

And WHY are did you post that shit from a brochure here? Nobody asked and nobody is interested in your stupid life.

Flagged for spam.

It said 1400 last time I looked. I guess it came down in price.

1000 is a steal since I know I'll be a millionaire one day.

You wish they knew about solar power in Pak.

It said 1400 last time I looked. I guess it came down in price.


Yeah right....

If you take some time to get your stories straight and you stick to them, your lying will go much smoother.

Really.

And you also said, you will be doing whatever they tell you to do for 8 hours a day.

You are working for them after paying them to hire you. LOL

1000 is a steal since I know I'll be a millionaire one day.


Will you stop eating out of dumpsters then???


You wish they knew about solar power in Pak.


We do. Very sunny country. LOL

Message 70 flagged.

Spam.

And yes, it is working. You can call it whatever you like. It's on the job training. After they suck you dry, they will throw a certificate in your face and show you the door. LOL

Good companies KEEP the people they train.

Did you know that, loser?

"Maybe I will visit you in hospital one day when you have swine-flu and a heart attack."

Swine flu has nothing to do with eating pork.

You seemed to be fairly smart for a Muslim, but it appears that was wrong.

I have a good job. I want to start my own solar panel company.

"He is definitely one and quite proud of it too."

It's always a good thing when people admit their idiocy.

Swine flu has nothing to do with eating pork.


It's got everything to do with not washing your hands.

I think you are gonna get swine flu. Just a feeling.


You seemed to be fairly smart for a Muslim, but it appears that was wrong.


And you always appeared dumber than the normal trailer-trash and I was right.

I have a good job.


Bagging groceries.


I want to start my own solar panel company.


If at first you don't succeed, try, try, again.

It's always a good thing when people admit their idiocy.


To you it's idiocy... to me, it's running rings around trailer-trash. LOL

Jackass

I guess this is the course you're planning on taking? I was curious so I looked up the schools/tech courses/certification requirements. $1400 seems about average. You could probably write off the $1400 cost for the certification course on your tax return. Not sure.

Might be a good field to go into, especially in Texas where solar energy is really being looked at as an alternative energy source. Likely will be a number of jobs available. Might be worth your time and money to get the training under your belt.

Later.

Cali thanks that's it. I figure all over the south and west will be a good oppurtunity for me to work in solar.

I guess this is the course you're planning on taking

Excellant detective skills,CC

"To you it's idiocy... to me, it's running rings around trailer-trash. LOL"

The vast majority of Pakistanis wish they HAD a trailer. LOL

"To you it's idiocy... to me, it's running rings around trailer-trash. LOL"

The vast majority of Pakistanis wish they HAD a trailer. LOL

Tosser,

Sounds like a good sandwich (burger) you have. I will have to try that myself minus the super-secret mustard of course.

On the question of whether or not pork is better for you than beef, that really depends on the cut. A steak is not going to be as healthy as a pork tenderloin. There is pretty much NO fat in a pork tenderloin and the leanness of the meat is comparable to turkey. Bacon... not so healthy. Lots of fat.

Most pork can be trimmed. Unlike beef where it is desirable for a good marbling of fat, with pork most of the fat is on the outside and can be trimmed off. The meat doesn't tend to be marbled with fat making the fat easily separable from the meat.

The idea of getting swine flu from eating pork is a myth.

Can people catch swine flu from eating pork?
No. Swine influenza viruses are not transmitted by food. You can not get swine influenza from eating pork or pork products. Eating properly handled and cooked pork and pork products is safe. Cooking pork to an internal temperature of 160F kills the swine flu virus as it does other bacteria and viruses.

www.cdc.gov

The vast majority of Pakistanis wish they HAD a trailer.


No trailers, no trailer-trash.

The poorest people in villages live in huge houses made of adobe walls (compact earth construction).

If you were smarter, you would do the same. LOL


You can not get swine influenza from eating pork or pork products.


But you do get it from farming porkers.

If there is a demand for pork, swine flu will eventually hit the population.


Cooking pork to an internal temperature of 160F kills the swine flu virus as it does other bacteria and viruses.


Yes, same with bird-flu. Cooking it kills the virus.

But people are stupid and careless. They got bird-flu anyway.

But you do get it from farming porkers.

If there is a demand for pork, swine flu will eventually hit the population.

And the same with bird flu. Should we then give up chicken? That is a silly argument for giving up an entire food product.

But people are stupid and careless. They got bird-flu anyway.

Yes, yes.... and tapeworms from various meats including beef and fish. I got the point years ago: under-cooking meat is bad.

Still a silly argument for cutting out a food product from the diet completely.

Religious reasons I can understand and unlike some on this forum I won't ridicule you for the practice, just don't pretend that those religious reasons are actually scientific reasons.

But people are stupid and careless. They got bird-flu anyway.

Actually, they got the bird flu from handling the birds... not from eating them. Once the virus has mutated to the point that it can be transmitted to humans (which is a big genetic barrier to cross) you don't need to eat a chicken to get it.

Again... getting bird flu or swine flu from eating the meat is a myth. Any biologist will tell you this.

Even the raw meat is safe:

"There's no evidence that any influenza virus, and in particular this one, has ever been transmitted by the foodborne route or by handling food products," said flu expert Dr. William Schaffner of Vanderbilt University.

After all, he said, flu infects a pig's respiratory system, and "food products have nothing to do with that."

Dr. Philip Brachman, an Emory University epidemiology expert, agreed. "Nobody has suggested raw pork is a vehicle of infection," he said.


www.dailycamera.com

Which of course is completely besides the point since the virus is misnamed as "swine flu" anyway:

The virus spreading around the world should not be called "swine flu" as it contains avian and human components and no pig has so far been found ill with the disease, the world animal health body said on Monday.

It would be more logical to call the virus "North American influenza", a name based on its geographic origin like the Spanish influenza, a human flu pandemic with animal origin that killed more than 50 million people in 1918-1919.

"The virus has not been isolated in animals to date. Therefore it is not justified to name this disease swine influenza," the Paris-based World Organisation for Animal Health, also known as the OIE, said in a statement.

The European Commission said that the virus was not linked with pork.


www.alertnet.org

Moo dictates, "... don't pretend that those religious reasons are actually scientific reasons."

You are so masterful! A bit of hubris, but cute as a bug's ear!

However, what was Moses? No, silly, I know he was a Jew! That's the point, after all.

What profession would Moses undertake as the adopted son of Pharoh? Priest? Not!

Trained to become Pharoh, you know, politics? No, he was a Jew. Neither could he be a general of the army, same reason ...

The only job training left would be as a Physician, don't you think? Seems reasonable, what, when you consider all the food laws he included in the 'holy' book of his words; along with other medical advice and restrictions.

So, the food laws, although steeped in religon to enforce them, were almost assuredly scientific; e.g., not boiling the kid in its mother's milk, as milk does not reach a high enough temperature to kill all parasites and bacteria/amoeba without curdling into a mess.

Sorry that this appears to make you incorrect, again. I know that you just hate that no end ... you and Whackjob, too.

Should we then give up chicken?


I did actually until the bird flu threat went away.

Even now I only get my chicken products from places that have never had any bird flu ever.


Still a silly argument for cutting out a food product from the diet completely.


Better safe than sorry, I say.


Religious reasons I can understand and unlike some on this forum I won't ridicule you for the practice, just don't pretend that those religious reasons are actually scientific reasons.


With pork it's religious plus scientific. With chicken, it was only scientific.


Actually, they got the bird flu from handling the birds... not from eating them.


From handling and from using the birds in curries and in soups where the virus wasn't killed.

Frying it was safe.

Sorry that this appears to make you incorrect, again. I know that you just hate that no end ... you and Whackjob, too.

Sorry, but you are the "whackjob" if you compare "science" (there was no science as we know it) 3000+ years ago with science today.

Since better information is given in the present day regarding both the cause and the remedy for the food related illnesses the religious restrictions on food, regardless of original meaning, are defunct as a "scientific" prescription. Instead, in light of better scientific knowledge, the prohibitions are simply a matter of faith.

Jews, Muslims, or even Seventh Day Adventists don't eat pork. Why? According to you, because Moses said not to. Why did he say not to? According to you, because they would get sick.

Do we know now what caused the sickness and how to prevent it? Yes. It is safe to eat if this new knowlege is followed rather than the old? Yes.

Are Moses' restrictions needed when the new scientific info is followed? No.

Then why are Moses' edicts followed anyway? Because of RELIGION. Because ultimately the Word of God says to abstain from those foods.

Do I see a problem with people abstaining from eating foods because of their religion? Nope. No skin off my back, and much respect for their devoutness.

Now crawl back into your hole, whackjob.

Again... getting bird flu or swine flu from eating the meat is a myth.


You and your sources may be correct. But when it comes to something I'm going to put in my mouth, I am still never totally reassured.

It's me human nature.

Because ultimately the Word of God says to abstain from those foods.


Actually in the Koran, Allah sez Muslims CAN eat pork... when there is nothing else to eat.

You want me to have a pork sandwich, hide all your food when I show up, look desperate and say I ain't got nothing except pork. THEN it won't be a sin for me to eat it. LOL

(yes really)

Better safe than sorry, I say.

I understand you point. However, that is fear speaking... not science.

The science says even the raw meat is safe. Therefore abstaining from the meat due to fear of the flu is cannot be a scientific response by definition.

From handling and from using the birds in curries and in soups where the virus wasn't killed.

No... from handling the live birds. The bird flu started in Asia among poultry farmers. Once it spread to humans it no longer needed to be spread from bird to human and you could get from another infected person. This caused it to spread beyond just the poultry farmers.

Again, as stated in my above link, influenza infects the respiratory system... not the entire body. The rest of the meat is safe.

You want me to have a pork sandwich, hide all your food when I show up, look desperate and say I ain't got nothing except pork. THEN it won't be a sin for me to eat it. LOL

(yes really)

Ok ok ok.... thanks for that. Now I have to clean my tea off the monitor. Hahahaha

The only reason Christians don't have the restriction is because of a part in the New Testament where the restriction was lifted. The restriction was lifted by God in a vision to make it possible for Jews to dine with Gentiles (who may eat restricted things) in order to spread The Word.

And you are right that in those times, it made sense to have kosher rules for food.

Why do I follow them still?

In case of sea-food where crabs and lobsters are a gray-area... I don't. I eat that stuff because I know they have been farmed.

I eat Shark-fin soup.. even though Halal food discourages us from eating predators.... we should only eat vegetarian animals.

In case of pork, I do follow Halal policy because in the last century most of the various flu varieties came out of Asia, where pork was part of the food chain.

But when it comes to something I'm going to put in my mouth, I am still never totally reassured.

Fair enough.

owever, that is fear speaking... not science.


Us cowardly folk tend to live longer.


The bird flu started in Asia among poultry farmers.


Yes, but I remember a few cases where soup was blamed.

I stopped having chicken-corn soup for a full two years... and chicken in general for a year.

Whenever such things happen in the news, I become a vegetarian (something I aim for anyway... to be more of a veggie eater).

Us cowardly folk tend to live longer.

Fear is often ridiculed as a negative trait. I tend to be more nuanced. Fear when properly used is called caution. Not a bad thing at all.

I didn't mean "fear" in a derogatory sense. I was being a bit more neutral since I wasn't suggesting motive.

Yes, but I remember a few cases where soup was blamed.

Often time when the cause for something is not known, the named culprit is actually innocent.

I stopped having chicken-corn soup for a full two years

Do you have a recipe for this chicken-corn soup? Sounds delicious.

Fear when properly used is called caution. Not a bad thing at all.


Exactly.


I didn't mean "fear" in a derogatory sense. I was being a bit more neutral since I wasn't suggesting motive.


I know.


Often time when the cause for something is not known, the named culprit is actually innocent.


It was also the thing that cooking destroys the virus. When you get a chicken burger or you fry a chicken or barbecue it (guaranteed virus killer), I can see it getting cooked.

With soup I can't tell how thorough the job was done. That was the main problem. And that is why others also blamed soup.

I think most of Asia... most of Pakistan at least has chicken more as a soup or curry than as a fried product. So I figured that made it dangerous.

Do you have a recipe for this chicken-corn soup? Sounds delicious.


I get freeze-dried packets of the stuff and just heat and add water....

But there are plenty of recipes for it. All of Pakistan lives on this soup... hold on, let me see.

With soup I can't tell how thorough the job was done.

I often fry or grill my meat before putting it in a soup. That is just a personal preference on my part as boiled meat loses much of its flavor.

Chicken corn soup, Australian style.

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Chinese (and Pak) style.

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As you can see there is more than one way. All are good.

Fantastic! I know what is on the menu this week now! I will be sure to tell you how it turns out. My kids (especially my youngest girl) will love knowing the origins of the recipe too. Her grandfather is Lebanese (her mother was adopted), and while not the same country.... well you get the idea I am sure.

I often fry or grill my meat before putting it in a soup.


That's what you would do. I doubt the guy manning the soup-cart will do the same. Not for Rs.10 anyway.

Which is why I have the freeze dried product at home... or have it from some place I know well.

When I am not hungry I just have this soup (or tomato-chilli) with a whole lot of french-fries. (notice the Australian guy is adding potatoes anyway)

Fantastic! I know what is on the menu this week now! I will be sure to tell you how it turns out. My kids (especially my youngest girl) will love knowing the origins of the recipe too. Her grandfather is Lebanese (her mother was adopted), and while not the same country.... well you get the idea I am sure.


Good good... this soup has saved my life more than once. On the rare occasion when I have come down with some nasty bug or virus, this thing has helped bring me back to normal.

It's powerful stuff and will cure the common cold.

Do tell me how it goes.

"The best cheese-burger in the world"

That would likely be the one Julia Child and Emeril Lagasse made on "Emeril Live."

111 posts on a thread about cheeseburgers in Pakistan.

Not too bad a job, Tosser!

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