LOL.

It's kind of like when a republican who is married gets caught naked with a guy. He's obviously straight because he has a wife and kids. Tell that to the dude he's boning, or is this case, to the guy he arrested in his own house after he has identified himself.

AGAIN..the report filed and read by hannity this afternoon...if correct shows a beligerant and difiant gates who refused to follow the apparently correct and polite instructions from the law enforcement officer

if all that checks out

gates got just what he deserved..arrested

Of course, police reports should always be taken at face value, and never, ever questioned.

"AGAIN..the report filed and read by hannity this afternoon"

hannity? O'Reily beleives in GW, hence I have my doubts on it. If hannity said the same...then I truly would know GW is a scam!

correct and polite instructions from the law enforcement officer

#3 | Posted by afkabl2

You are such a partisan hack. how would you feel if a cop came around your house when you don't feel like fucking with him? You tell him it's your house and he needs to separate you from your house and give you the old once over.

Where do you neo-cons get the ideal that if a cop speaks i should immediately praise his wisdom and kill myself to be so honored? Most of these cops are below average intelligence. And racist. And have napoleonic issues.

Bet you $10 that by 6 months time this cop will be in trouble for something else.

but the article is well enough written, so let's see how it stands up to thecoming withering criticism...

One more thing, what makes him an expert? It's interesting because for as long as I can remember the right has been pissing their pants and crying over professional teachers, people who do the shit for a living. They're "ineffective" and much much worse, and the teacher's union is e-vil and out to destroy the fabric of society. This guy though, this little piggy who spends a little time with guys who aspire to be little piggies to suppliment his less than poverty wages, he's an "expert"?

"Cop Who Arrested Gates Is Profiling Expert"

So? I've seen FBI gun safety experts shoot themselves in the foot.

correction:
I've seen an FBI gun safety expert shoot himself in the foot.

hannity? O'Reily beleives in GW, hence I have my doubts on it. If hannity said the same...then I truly would know GW is a scam!
#5 | Posted by Bani

Of course, police reports should always be taken at face value, and never, ever questioned.

No kidding. It was stupid for the cop to arrest a middle-aged Harvard professor in his own home, no matter what the prof said. This cop has made his department look foolish across the entire world.

It seems to me that the simplest explanation here is that both Gates and the cop lost their tempers. That happens. The cop should have had the common sense to apologize and leave.

Hey Nogov--the cop does the training classes for free. Why don't you read the article?

So the cop teaches profiling and considered a professional.

The Harvard professor teaches African American Studies and considered a professional too.

The guy doesn't know his neighbor well enough to know that he lives there when trying to break into a residence.

So the neighbor calls the cops.

AH HA!! The neighbor is the racial profiler!

Crowley responds and Gates refuses to show him his ID and starts yelling and screaming at the cop(s).

If he had cooperated and showed his ID--or maybe a picture of him in the residence to diffuse the situation, everyone would have left on their way.

hannity? O'Reily beleives in GW, hence I have my doubts on it. If hannity said the same...then I truly would know GW is a scam!
#5 | Posted by Bani

Read the report for yourself...
www.thesmokinggun.com

Posted by AndreaMackris

thxs!

Gates f*cked up there...Obama should have left it alone...but welcome to the NWO:>)

Nobody read the article, just the headline. How typical.

"Cambridge police Sgt. James Crowley, the cop at the center of a firestorm over the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., has taught a racial profiling class at the Lowell Police Academy for five years.

His academy class, which he teaches with a black police officer, instructs about 60 police cadets per year who spend 12 hours in the classroom, said Lowell Police Academy Director Thomas Fleming.

"He's a very professional police officer and he's a good role model," Fleming said. "Former police commissioner Ronny Watson, who is a person of color, hand-picked Sgt. Crowley. ... I presume because he would be the most qualified and most professional. He's a very good instructor. He gets very high reviews by the students."

Watson, who is black, is the former Cambridge police commissioner. "

"I'll see your mama outside."--quote from a fully-tenured Harvard University professor, and friend of Barack.

can't believe hannity may be on to some truth, though...very hard to believe...

I'm going to have to go soon...this is way too much in one day!

hannity may have told the truth! wow, only in america

I posted the article because I thought it was more amusing than anything. This is a cop who is a big Obama supporter, a union member, and someone who goes through the motions of teaching a class on race relations so that fellow officers can do their jobs without seeing them through the prism of race.

It gets him nowhere. As soon as a professional grievance-monger calls him a racist, our dumbass President and his minions all over the blogosphere will hurry in and agree.

Funny. This guy just found out that when it comes to race, he's got no street cred, but some douchebag who makes 10 times what he does, does.

the broken clock (hannity?) is right twice a day?

"I've seen an FBI gun safety expert shoot himself in the foot."

Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2009-07-23 06:56 PM

Should have asked a Texas Ranger.

"Introduced in 1983, the 10mm Auto cartridge was designed to give automatic pistols the power and versatility normally reserved for Magnum revolvers. It was adopted by the FBI in the early 1990s and is still used by several law enforcement agencies today. However, the FBI and many others found that their more effete personnel couldn't cope with the recoil produced by full power 10mm loads and went on to adopt the weaker .40 Smith & Wesson cartridge instead. 10mm Auto fans often jokingly refer to the .40S&W as the .40 "Short and Weak" for this reason and consider the abandonment of the 10mm Auto cartridge a sure sign of the FBI's ultimate decline into the quagmire of Political Correctness. "

"Bet you $10 that by 6 months time this cop will be in trouble for something else."

I'll take that bet. According to the article, he's "very professional," a "good role model" and was "hand picked" by a minority for the position. Reading must be difficult for you.

"Crowley has taught a class on racial profiling for five years at Lowell Police Academy. In the class, he teaches officers about different situations and how officers should handle them."

first, you must ask them nicely to bare their behinds so you can kiss it before they start hurling racial epithets at you.

have i missed anything?

This reminds me why I haven't been in Massachusetts since 1981; And that was a business trip for Motorola.

Of course, police reports should always be taken at face value, and never, ever questioned.

#4 | POSTED BY SANANTONIOROGUE AT 2009-07-23 06:45 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Of course they lied on the police report. Of course the independent witnesses lied about this guy yelling at the police officer. The neighbor lied too about being concerned about a break in. Of course this officer, who by all accounts seems to be straight and narrow - teaching courses on this shit alongside a fellow black officer, was racially biased and would never have arrested a white guy for getting in his face and acting belligerent.

Yes, Gates was the victim here. If he were white, the cops probably would never even have asked him any questions. They would have seen he was white, maybe tipped their hat to him, and moved along.

Gates wasn't looking for publicity, either. It's not like his profession and livelihood depend on continued racial strife.

Why, I bet if "your momma" Gates had should him his i.d., apologized for the confusion - or, perhaps even thanked the officer for the protection of his property - the officer would've probably arrested him anyway. Gates is, after all, a black man.

Good grief... Give it a rest. Gates is a loser, and will be continually shown to be a loser. BHO calling what the officers did "stupid" shows him to be out of touch - completely. Now, he's managed to piss off the CIA, and local law enforcement. Shut down F-22s as well. Ya, he's doing swell.

have i missed anything?

#23 | Posted by nanc

as usual you missed everything!

As an instructor on racial profiling he should have known better! It should have been clear to him what was happening and how it was about to get out of hand and he had the opportunity to nip it in the bud. HE WAS RIGHT THERE. He chose the actions he took and now look how it turned out.

How about this: "oh I am sorry SIR looks like we made a big mistake here huh. Good thing we checked it out though.

HAVE A NICE DAY."

But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo
oooooo! He chose to aggravate the situation even after this poor fellow explained it to them. Any wonder the dude got all bent out of shape? He was being dragged from his home for breaking into his own home!

Yup... as a so-called "expert" on the subject matter he should have known better.

This guy though, this little piggy who spends a little time with guys who aspire to be little piggies to suppliment his less than poverty wages, he's an "expert"?

#8 | POSTED BY NOGOV4ME AT 2009-07-23 06:52 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Spoken like a true asshole.

Yup... as a so-called "expert" on the subject matter he should have known better.

#26 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2009-07-23 07:34 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Read the report DB. Didn't go down as you state.

Gates wasn't looking for publicity, either. It's not like his profession and livelihood depend on continued racial strife.

People are trying to make Gates sound like Al Sharpton. He isn't. He's a well-respected academic who hosts the PBS series African American Lives and doesn't do a lot of publicity seeking. The claim that his livelihood depends on racial strife is absurd.

Read the report DB. Didn't go down as you state.

The police report was written by a cop who had to justify his decision to arrest the guy. It's possible we didn't get the full story in the report.

I'm sure we'll see. There were plenty of witnesses, who are already corroborating what the officer put into his report.

"to the guy he arrested in his own house after he has identified himself."

#1 | Posted by panchovilla at 2009-07-23 06:24 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: Misses the point.

I forgot the guy was arrested for HOME INVASION. Oh wait he was not. He as Arrested for Disturbing the Peace. The moral of the story is; Dont get snappy and Irational infront of the Cops. Reminds me of this chris rock Bit:

seriously cant believe no one posted that video yet

Pigs have no fucking sense of humor. Either cooperate or cap 'em.

This is not a case of discrimination. This is the case of an angry black professor who teaches African-American studies who was looking for a fight because a white cop had the balls to actually do his job and follow up on a burglary report.

A report on the arresting officer:

"Fellow officers, black and white, say he is well-liked and respected on the force. Crowley was a campus police officer at Brandeis University in July 1993 when he administered CPR trying to save the life of former Boston Celtics player Reggie Lewis. Lewis, who was black, collapsed and died during an off-season workout."

Read the report DB. Didn't go down as you state.

#28 | Posted by somoco

This officer obviously screwed the pooch here. He did not act like a professional and fucked with the wrong black man at the wrong time. Didn't they drop the charges? That means they had no case. If they had a good case they would have prosecuted to save face, no? Or maybe they are enjoying all this bad publicity? And it is not wise to take on this President of the US unless you have a REALLY strong case (see "Joe the Dumber" or "Sarah Failin"). Which they don't. This thing is all SNAFUed and the Police Department there just got a big black eye. I can see a lot of Diversity Training for the officers there in the future.

And they had best apologize quickly before they have to kiss Jesse Jackson hairy black ass! ewwwww!

I think I've been following this story right along, and I have to say that I have yet to hear any verifiable facts on which to make a determination, one way or another.

I mean by that that I can imagine a set of facts involving a verbally-abusive police officer and an innocent professor who is just trying to explain that he had to force his way into his own house. But the police officer berates him until the professor says, "Hey, you've got no call to talk to me like that," and then the officer instantly arrests him for essentially nothing.

I can also imagine a set of facts involving a verbally-abusive college professor and an innocent police officer who is just trying to explain that he needs to see the man's ID so he can justify leaving the scene and moving on. But the college professor berates him until the police officer says, "Hey, you're starting to disturb the peace now," and then the professor elevates his tone further and gets himself arrested.

(And, of course, the truth may--as is so often the case--lie somewhere in between.)

Trouble is, the seemingly verifiable facts I've heard so far are so sketchy that they are consistent with both of the above scenarios. I'm still waiting for verifiable facts that point one way over the other.

#37 | Posted by nimbleswitch at 2009-07-23 08:09 PM

Best post I've seen on this topic thusfar. Which is why Obama taking a position on the issue was beyond stupid.

Of course, police reports should always be taken at face value, and never, ever questioned.

#4 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

I guess you can't trust the neighbor that saw the action either. That whole campus is a den of libs. You can't trust any of them.

"The police report was written by a cop who had to justify his decision to arrest the guy. It's possible we didn't get the full story in the report." - RCade.

WOW, you didn't actually read the reports because it states two officers opinions of the events.

There were also 7 to eight other people that viewed the event.

This officer obviously screwed the pooch here. He did not act like a professional and fucked with the wrong black man at the wrong time. Didn't they drop the charges? That means they had no case. If they had a good case they would have prosecuted to save face, no?

#36 | Posted by donnerboy

Interesting Article from a black writer on this story:

"I myself was arrested by Cambridge cops in Harvard Square back in my youth on the same charge, disorderly conduct, for mouthing off to cops at length as Gates seems to have been. Only I was drunk at the time. In fact, the cop who arrested me was black, but there was nothing racial about it. Cambridge cops don't play around. I was released the next morning after spending the night in the same jail in East Cambridge that Prof. Gates was brought to. Gives me a very unique perspective on this situation.
Now you know the background to put this incident into its proper context. If you need more, there was a brutal murder in a Harvard dorm recently. Cambridge cops got their hands full. No time to play games...

It appears the neighbor acted in good faith, the cops did their jobs, and Professor Gates was being arrogant, hostile and irascible, if not racist himself...

Dear Readers, this is exactly the kind of arrogant race-baiting behavior that is not only destroying any hopes of racial harmony in America, it is the worst kind of crying wolf. By making a racial incident out of nothing, Prof. Gates demeans real racial incidents and profiling, like a woman crying rape where none has occurred and falsely accusing others of it. Al Sharpton hit that superfecta with the Tawana Brawley hoax."

I guess you can't trust the neighbor that saw the action either. That whole campus is a den of libs. You can't trust any of them.

#39 | Posted by Sniper

There were also 7 to eight other people that viewed the event.

#40 | Posted by AndreaMackris

First of all, I didn't say the cop was entirely in the wrong. But it is the height of stupidity to just assume his, or any police report under unusual circumstances is 100% correct and shouldn't be questioned.

Second, I haven't seen any statements from any witnesses on the incident. I've only seen the officer's narrative where he says there were 7 unidentified people "looking toward Gates' house", plus the lady who initially called in.

Have any witness statements been released as yet?

The essential truth of this matter is going to come out.

If the police officers both were lying in their reports, they were taking one helluva chance given that this whole incident went down in front of a bunch of people. And if they were making up all that about the professor's beligerant attitude, it would never hold up if the professor in fact has the reputation among those who know him of being a timid milquetoast.

If the professor is lying about anything here, that'll come out, too, given the people who saw and heard all of this. And if he were making up all that about the police officer's racist attitude, it would never hold up if the professor in fact has the reputation among those who know him of being an aggressive bigmouth.

Don't you have to wonder who, among all those people present, had the foresight to record the incident on his/her cell phone?

Ah fuel for the fire.....

#44 | Posted by boywondr

______________________________
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Of course Obama is dumbass!! He literally is the dumbest president in U.S. history. His press secretary is working overtime to save his sorry ass now on a daily basis.

On Obama:

"But many in Massachusetts said he crossed a line by passing judgment on police while acknowledging he did not have all the facts. Online polls in Massachusetts show strong support for the white arresting officer. A police union and his department's chief also came out strongly in his defense.

Obama's comment stunned the city's policemen, Haas added. "They were very much deflated."

Nimbleswitch is right. The incident could have been started by the cop being a dick or by Gates being a dick. Both scenarios are just as likely as the other.

"the nation's top dog"

woof

I remain sorry I didn't write-in Paris Hilton.

There was a time in America when if a black man screamed racism and threw a fit that all the whites would look down and shuck and jive. This is a new day of freedom where even a 98 pound white weakling will jump up and bitch slap the MFer.

Holy moley, here "the Professor" certainly did his bit to escalate the encounter which became a confrontation. This Professor sounds like a hard-core racist and bigot, who uses "race" as the filter through which he views the world.

Of course, that's homeboy's declared attitude also. But then, homeboy's views were nurtured for two decades at the feet of his mentor, bigotmeister America-hating, whitey-hating, Jew-hating Rev. Wright.

What is a homeboy. A homeboy is someone who identifies with, intuitively feels an alliance with and makes common cause with another person because of shared attributes. It derives from the fact that many inner city black neighborhoods have so many of their youth arrested and processed through the prison system. So, when a person is adrift in the lock-up and sees a person from "the hood," he immediately is comforted by the presence of a friendly person. They ally and confront others, protecting themselves, or aggressively stealing from and beating up other prisoners. This occurs throughout the prison system, but the word has taken on a more generic meaning as it can denote someone from the same neighborhood or someone who is just "a brother." Obama feels this intuitive afiliation with the Professor who is a miscreant.

Of course, the same process occurs elesewhere with different terminology. Traveling abroad, travelers seek comfort or identity in affiliation with someone from their neck of the woods.

I was in Hong Kong one time wearing a scalloped shirt designed by a clothier named Morrie Geyer, who used to have a place in Palm Springs. He was short and fat, and the shirts made his body type seem more so. The woman asked me if that was a Morrie Geyer shirt. And so it began. She and her husband, and my wife and I, went out to dinner. So I too be havin' homies.

Is Gates Jr. a race baiter?

It seems to me that the simplest explanation here is that both Gates and the cop lost their tempers. That happens. The cop should have had the common sense to apologize and leave. -- #12 | Posted by rcade

Yep. But Gates has only words. The cop has a gun. This really bothers me -- we're arming a guy who can't keep his cool in a case like this?

Nimbleswitch is right. The incident could have been started by the cop being a dick or by Gates being a dick. Both scenarios are just as likely as the other.

No both scenarios are not a likely. What part of the report is so hard for you libs to understand? The cop responded to a call. The lady was standing there waiting for the cop. The cop saw someone moving around in the house. He told the lady to wait here and speak with another officer. He saw Gates through the glass and asked him to come outside. The first words out of Gates mouth was WHY SHOULD I? He proceeded to berate the cop and call him a racist. The cop was leaving and this worthless fucking piece of shit followed him outside screaming. There were cars stopping, a handful of people watching, and the cop even started to show him the handcuffs so he would shut his mouth. Fuck that piece of shit. Obama never should have opened his ignorant mouth. Calling the cops stupid? Fuck him as well.

Good job officer, you realize how dangerous "THEM PEOPLE" can be!

In Oulu, northern Finland, three Black men originating from Congo gangraped a Finnish woman and practiced fistula using scissors. Fistula is the clipping of the skin between anal and vaginal openings, which means she will have to wear diapers if they can't fix it with surgery (and in any cases, it's impossible to fix it, many victims of this attack in Congo had to use colostomy bags for the rest of their life.)

The rapers were sentenced to 4 years of prison each and have to pay a fee of 18,750 to the victim.

They raped 2 other women in the same Finnish city before, they targeted single women at bus stops, hit them in the head with a hard object and dragged them somewhere to rape them. The other women were lucky enough to be just raped, not permanently mutilated.

"Yep. But Gates has only words. The cop has a gun."

Actually, in this case, Gates is obviously an asshole, but the cop is an idiot. A real lawman would have had a clue and defused the bomb by instinct.

I once shook H. Joaquin Jackson's hand.

It amazing how any mention of racism and the GOP'ers come out in full force to defend the cop. The fact is that this whole incident is about a cop with a God complex who forgot he is a public servant and a high and mighty Harvard professor who forgot he is just another suspect in the eyes of the police. The whole concept that the police are someone who deserves an ass kissing every time he addresses a citizen needs to go as much as the professors attitude that it was only a racial confrontation in the first place.

It all boils down to both sides thinking they don't have to be civil anymore. It's called social rot, kind of like leprosy of the nation.

BTW... The cop voted for Obama. That fucking racist.

Then there's my wife ...

TICKYUL... Have you always been a racist? Just what is your point? Someone commits a heinous crime so that makes everyone of the same race a fist fucker? You are a sick turd yourself.

Lawrence Hickman, a black Boston police officer who also teaches at the academy, said he's worked alongside Crowley for years now and has nothing but the highest respect for him.

"He's well versed in the subject matter he taught," Hickman said. "He is the right instructor for the subject material ... I'm an African-American police officer, If there were any issues or if I thought he was biased, I would have addressed that. We all do the same job and we all know how things get spun out. The bottom line is he was there answering a call for help, he responded as a professional police officer."

Fleming said Crowley gets no extra money for teaching the class, which requires him to drive from Cambridge to Middlesex Community College in Lowell. He said the academy is well respected and it is used by cops from 53 communities across the state, including Lowell, Cambridge and other cities and towns

Yeah this guy is nothing but a bigot and racial profiler. Why else would he volunteer his time?

Fortunately or unfortunately however you choose to look at it President Obama has inadvertently hurt the case of Mr. Gates with his speaking out. He has in effect tainted the jury pool.

If sued which he probably will be one of Sgt. Crowley's defenses will be that there is no way he can receive a fair trial since the President Of The United States on national T.V. viewed by 25 million people has already passed judgment in this case.

Cop Who Arrested Gates Is Profiling Expert....

.....OR NOT.

correction:
I've seen an FBI gun safety expert shoot himself in the foot.

#10 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2009-07-23 06:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Here's one with a DEA agent:

And I've seen a community organizer think he could pull off a role as a competent President.

Ogletree said he and Gates were surprised by Obama's remarks on the arrest last night. "He was pleased that the president was at least aware of the incident and without attempting to know all the facts, at least addressed the broader issue of the need for more community dialogue on the issue of racial profiling," Ogletree said.

Obama commented on the case again earlier this afternoon, saying he was "surprised by the controversy surrounding" his criticism.

Obama, Ogletree, Gates, Wright... Four fucking pigs in the muck. I guess Obama feels indebted to Gates as he did Wright. Hopefully if the truth ever comes out, Obama will look like the lying, racist scum he was during the Wright incident.

"I think it was a pretty straightforward commentary that you probably don't need to handcuff a guy, a middle-aged man who uses a cane, who is in his own home."

Of course the cop handcuffed in the front so he could use his cane. He also allowed a Harvard employee to help Gates and secure the home.

Ringmasterbater

You are a fucking idiot, plain and simple. Everything so far points to the fact that Gates was being a belligerent asshole. The cop was doing his damm job, just as you would want him to if someone had broke into your house.

There was no way for the cop to know that he was the resident of the home. Just because the jackass was inside does not make him the resident. All that stupid racist asshole had to do was show proper I.D. and it would have been over. But no, he had to immediately start the racist shit.

I'm not even going to get into the jackass Obama for making his comments. He has shown an several occasions that he himself is a racist. His friendships with Gates and Wright show the type of person he associates himself with. He didnt even know any of the facts and immediately blamed the cop for being stupid. What does that make Obama? I would expect that shit out of Al Sharpton. Oh look, I guess I did get into talking about Obama.

Also it does not surprise me at all that certain idiots on here (Donner, Frank, Danni, Letus, etc...) would immediately take the side against the cop, without a shred of evidence to back up their opinions. Then again, that is nothing new for this site.

If the police officers both were lying in their reports, they were taking one helluva chance given that this whole incident went down in front of a bunch of people.

Not really. It's the cops' word against some eyewitnesses. We would never know who Rodney King is if it weren't for the videotape.

Police reports are commonly full of omissions, lies, or just simple errors.

Gates was a hothead and probably acted illegally when he followed the police outside just to harass them. However, the police invited him outside to do just that. The cops, as a matter of policy, shouldn't be baiting the public whom they ostensibly serve. Once the officer determined that it was not a break-in, that Gates was the homeowner, he could have simply presented his business card when Gates asked for identification and walked away.

But cops get all butt-hurt when you get in their face. They make an example of you just because they can. Think Eric Cartman with authoritay.

It seems disingenuous that the officer had any purpose for continuing the conversation with Gates other than to arrest him. He had determined there was no crime; his work was done.

"Monkey shoulda stayed on the porch" about sums it up.

If sued which he probably will be one of Sgt. Crowley's defenses will be that there is no way he can receive a fair trial since the President Of The United States on national T.V. viewed by 25 million people has already passed judgment in this case.

#62 | Posted by TXLIBERTARIAN

Yeah.

Man, I bet OJ wishes there would have been a little publicity surrounding his case, he might not have got the ass sued off of him when it was over if only a few people had heard something about it. . .

It seems disingenuous that the officer had any purpose for continuing the conversation with Gates other than to arrest him. He had determined there was no crime; his work was done.

The officer was leaving and Gates was following him out sreaming. He warned him and brandished his cuffs so the fucking clown would turn around and go back inside. There were people standing around and cars stopping. He was disturbing the peace. He should have been arrested. If anything the cop showed him more respect than he deserved.

#70 | Posted by crispee_oc

That settles it. Ladies and gentlemen what we have here is a mite that lives in the band of the cop's hat. It witnessed the whole damned thing and is here posting so the whole world knows the truth!

I much preferred Texas swagger to Chicago thuggery.

The nice thing is they only have legal/political thuggery, when I find you pussies in the street, I have a beat down waiting for you.

#69 | Posted by NoGov4Me

It's not about so much about publicity dickhead. Its about the weight and power to influence that comes with the office of President.

That settles it. Ladies and gentlemen what we have here is a mite that lives in the band of the cop's hat. It witnessed the whole damned thing and is here posting so the whole world knows the truth!

#71 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-07-23 11:04 PM

I can read the fucking transcripts and don't need to to have witnessed the incident to know what happened. This is all being exploited by Gates and his racist, gutless cabal including the king schmuck in the Oval Office.

Shouldn't you be patting yourself on the back for a skewed headline? BTW... I can see why you chose to link that story and how it inspired you to add you worthless two cents. You and the author are no better than Gates and prove your worth.

#72 | Posted by brentrice1 at

Man is this thread delivering! First we have a shit load of psychics and clairvoyants and people with other paranormal abilities that allow them to read minds after the fact and look into events from the past and tell us all what really happened. That wasn't enough though because now we have an internet bad ass. I'm on the edge of my seat! What's gonna happen next????

lol, that was a repost, I was mocking the guy.

On Obama:

"But many in Massachusetts said he crossed a line by passing judgment on police while acknowledging he did not have all the facts."

That is Obama's MO--doesn't know anything or much about the facts but goes about phucking things up anyway.

doesn't know anything or much about the facts but goes about phucking things up anyway.

#77 | Posted by MURPHY

I would think you'd be more supportive of someone so much like you.

You lefties better back out this one.. Prof Gates is a race baiting nut.. and this cop is one of the good guys..

This is going to backfire on you..

Just think of the Duke Lacrosse team for a bit, and reconsider backing professor idiot.

You need to go find a real example of racism and to whine about. (Start w Barbara Boxer.. she's a fun read)

#73 | Posted by TXLIBERTARIAN at

Yeah.

Coverage for 12 hours per day everyday for 8, 10, 12 months scored a big fat zero in the "weight and power to influence" department.

So the neighbor calls the cops after seeing what she thinks is a stranger breaking into the residence....

AH HA!! The neighbor is the racial profiler!

I would think you'd be more supportive of someone so much like you.

#78 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

You have been so grumpy lately..;o(

You have been so grumpy lately..;o(

#82 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-07-23 11:26 PM

He is baffled by Obama's amateur gaff and can't defend it.

i worked at a major university for many years and believe it when i say ethnic studies programs are the dumbest thing on any campus, the students are useless and super-stupid and the so-called professors are worthless pieces of shit

Blacks, in genreal are a very poor fit for a modern society. Black males are less than 7% of the US population, yet they commit over 50% of the violent crime. I refuse to be brainwashed by the diversity nazis.

DIXIE YESTERDAY !
DIXIE TODAY !
DIXIE FOREVER !

I can read the fucking transcripts and don't need to to have witnessed the incident to know what happened.

#74 | Posted by crispee_oc at

I read something too, see what happened is this cop called him a nigger a lot of times, when he showed him his ID he said "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!" He only took hisfingers out ofhis plugged ears long enough to slap his ID out of his hand, then he started for the door. The good professor was obviously upset and he followed him outside and yelled at him for being rude, thus the arrest for yelling outside whilst being black.

See how that works?

He is baffled by Obama's amateur gaff and can't defend it.

#83 | Posted by crispee_oc

Didn't try. I think he should have stopped at the end of the first sentence.

See how that works?

I only see the works of someone committed to a straight jacket.

Didn't try. I think he should have stopped at the end of the first sentence.

#87 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

That I agree with.

He should have been the uniter and say let's all step back and wait for the facts.

But he went on with the profiling comment--which had nothing to do with this incident--since it was call in by the neighbor.

That I agree with.

He should have been the uniter and say let's all step back and wait for the facts.

But he went on with the profiling comment--which had nothing to do with this incident--since it was call in by the neighbor.

#89 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-07-23 11:44 PM |

He only made it worse today. Fucking laughable. Even after Gibbs said he didn't call the cop stupid.

#80 | Posted by NoGov4Me

So you think people put the same weight behind the words of T.V. commentators as they do the President Of The United States?

I support Mr. Gates right to refuse to show the cop I.D. especially in his own house. In fact, there is no law requiring citizens to carry identification of any kind, but he went about trying to enforce his rights totally the wrong way there is no need to be an asshole when letting the cop know that this is my home I was locked out I pushed my way in. No this dumbass allegedly had to put on a show then he was stupid enough to follow the cop out in to public and makes an ass of himself.

I support Mr. Gates right to refuse to show the cop I.D. especially in his own house.

Mr. Gates didn't have any right to refuse. He was a suspect in a crime. The cop could have easily forced his way into the home and detained him. Instead he asked him to come outside and Gates chose to be a fucking asshole. Another class act by a respected Harvard teacher.

sickoflibs...You're a real live one. "Sicko's R Us".

What makes you think I'm a lib? Because I think there is two sides to every story? If that's the case then an anti-lib (whatever that is) must think there is only one, and if there is only one then by God, he'll go with the party. God bless you!

Logics R Us :-)

Mr. Gates didn't have any right to refuse.
#92 | Posted by crispee_oc

He most certainly did have the right to not show an I.D. he must identify himself but he is not required to show an I.D. or produce papers.

The more I think about it, the bigger a fucking moron Obama is for commenting on the story. For someone lefties like to constantly claim is a "brilliant legal mind," he sure doesn't know how to hide his biases. This story could have gone one of two ways, as many have stated above, and to come out in favor of one side over the other is nothing more than to filter the facts through your own biases, with the result being something that reinforces your perception of the world.

As the president of the united states, he should know better. As a supposed genius and "uniter," he should have kept his mouth shut.

#95 | Posted by JOE

Spot on.

Blacks, in genreal are a very poor fit for a modern society. Black males are less than 7% of the US population, yet they commit over 50% of the violent crime.

First of all, your numbers are off.

Second, crime data suggests it's males, not blacks, that are the worst fit for a "modern society," whatever that might mean.

There were 4,734,310 single offender victimizations by crimes of violence in 2006.

Whites committed 59%, Blacks 22.4%, Other 10.8%, unknown/unavailable 7.9%

Males committed 78.3%, females 19.7%, unknown/unavailable 1.9%.

The more I think about it, the bigger a fucking moron Obama is for commenting on the story.

I think I feel the same way. Though I agree with the sentiment of what Obama said, "Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home," he probably should have just left it alone.

And I've seen a community organizer think he could pull off a role as a competent President.

#65 | Posted by brentrice1 at 2009-07-23 10:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

'Community Organizer'...why does the fact that he helped people in his own community outrage the right so much?

Do you truly despise that he helped others?

One more thing....next to 'Community Organizer', you can add ;

Columbia Graduate
Harvard Law Graduate
President of the Harvard Review
Law Professor
Senator

oh wait....there's one more.....oh yeah...PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

I do enjoy rubbing salt in the wounds while they're still fresh....and no, I don't care what you think of that.

why does the fact that he helped people in his own community outrage the right so much?

???

Who said they were outraged by Obama helping people in his community?

Oh, never mind. It's only common-nonsense with his daily set of lies.

Carry on

All snarkiness aside: CS, you exhibit all the traits of a pathological liar. You repeat lies even when the truth is shown to you (perry/secession), you lie when there is no personal gain, you lie simply for the sake of lying, you lie daily and often, you don't care that people notice your lies and call yout on them.

These are all the classic symptoms of a pathological liar. This isn't meant to be mean or anything, but you should really seek help. It's not normal and is far from a healthy state of mind.

Right is right's #17 post is spot on. Its sad that there is nothing that this cop could have done for the last five years that would have given him the benefit of the doubt. I bet you if he had married an African American woman, the left would have generated another excuse. Guilty simply because he is a cop and white. I guess we should get rid of all WHITE cops since none of them, I mean NONE of THEM, could do their jobs professionally AND without racial bias.

Does the left understand what they are saying?

BTW - has there been any black officers that have come out and accused this officer of racial bias, ever?

Donnerboy - Gates was not dragged or "taken" from his home. He followed the cop out of the house. After two requests to stop shouting, he was arrested for disorderly conduct. Is it because Gates is black, well connected, and a Harvard professor, give him the right to harass a police officer?

There probably is a dashcam audio from one of the responding officers. In these modern times it cuts down on the he said - he said bullshit. Plus it hold officers more accountable for their actions in the field. It will probably surface soon, unless Obama has it buried because he stepped in the hornets nest.

#1 Killer of Black America is Abortion
#2 Killer of Black Americans is other Black Americans
#3 Killer of Black Americans is Alcohol and Cigarettes.

The Klan must be very upset that they are not in the top thre

I'm beginning to think I was wrong in my initial evaluation of the story. I thought that the cop was racist and said so. But tonight I've read about every story out there on this incident, and it looks more like the cop is innocent and the professor overreacted.

It also looks like Obama is racist as well for siding with the professor.

Interesting story unfolding

Goatman - Obama is not a racist. He reacted based on what he knew. Based on the history of race relations in Boston, it is not difficult to quickly jump to the conclusion that Obama did. Obama's mistake is two-fold: As President of the US, what he says impacts alot of people. Does his comment set law enforcement back? Should there always be a presumption of guilt or racial profiling against law enforcement? Two: This will take focus off of healthcare and other issues that he is trying to push. And he will now be continually asked about race issues - whether he wants to or not. He has gone on record and anytime there is a similar situation, he will be expected to comment.

As the first black President, he sets precedent everyday ... and he needs to come to grips with that.

It also looks like Obama is racist as well for siding with the professor.

No it doesn't. It looks like he's biased in favor of his friend. A simple fact he readily admits in the preface to his remarks.

OBAMA: Well, I -- I should say at the outset that Skip Gates is a friend, so I may be a little biased here.

I want Obama's registered agent for service. I have several black clients that are in trouble for failure to crimes ranging from pay child support to possession of a fire arm in furtherance of drug trafficking. I would love to be able to trot out a character witness and expert on race relations like Obama to testify about the "facts" that he knows nothing about and then justify my client's actions while blasting the agents of the government for acting "stupidly". He could them point out that a disproportionate number of black people have police encounters when compared with white people. (I would hope that the prosecutor would tastefully not point out that a disproportionately large number of black people commit violent crimes, live on gubment programs, and procreate as a career choice. I suppose if they did, we could argue that they was RAYSIS.)

I'll bet that based on his background as an agitator, he won't even need TOTUS to give that testimony and to tastefully, and effectively deliver the word "RAAAAYSIS"! Wonder what his fees would be for his Cuzins?

It also looks like Obama is racist as well for siding with the professor.

Interesting story unfolding

#105 | Posted by goatman

Make no mistake about it. This story will have a greater negative affect on Obama than any other. Remember that every poll out there says that the majority of Americans disagree with all of this policies and handling of things like healthcare and the economy but his approval numbers were still high because the American people like Obama PERSONALLY. Not anymore. Now Rasmussen is reporting that Obama's approval numbers slipped below 50%!!! It was because of this issue folks.

Obama has made a race issue of this and pissed off white voters who see Obama taking a position purely on race, i.e., he calls a white cop stupid and supports his black friend even when he admits he didn't know the facts. Even black writers have attacked Prof. Gates for making up a racial issue when there was not one. Gates was just being an ass who thinks that as a Harvard professor he is above everyone else - an entitlement mentality. Obama was supposed to be above racial politics but now Americans realize that all they got was a polished Al Sharpton who has moved his racist activist bullhorn from the streets to the Oval Office.

we must all be extremely nice to black people now, regardless of the situation - they are in power. ::sarc meter running::

Ringmasterbater

At what point did I say that you were a Liberal? I said that you were an idiot. If you want to call that a Liberal then that is up to you. However, my point still stands that you are an idiot.

#111

Is there really a difference when you break it down?

Gates has been a race baiting piece of shit his entire adult life. And a dumbfuck as well for locking the keys in the house.

Gates has been a race baiting piece of shit his entire adult life.
#113 | Posted by wisgod

I've followed his work for the past few years. can you provide some evidence for this claim because it seems out of synch with what I'm aware of about him?

I've followed his work for the past few years. can you provide some evidence for this claim because it seems out of synch with what I'm aware of about him?

#114 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

I'm assuming you haven't read any of his many books.

HC, I highly recommend "The Encyclopedia of the African and African American Experience" But there are many more on the list...

And a dumbfuck as well for locking the keys in the house.

#113 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-07-24 10:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

I guess I'm a dumbfuck as well, twice over, as it happened to me once with my car too. IMHO, it's getting to the point were cops need to be policed.

If they stick to facts, they're screwed. You have a president at a live broadcasted event saying despite not having all the facts acusing somebody of something... What a "Stupidly" thing to do. and any comementator Dem or Rep should skewer him on it and he should apologize.

If we really wanted "Change"... He ain't brinning it....

I guess I'm a dumbfuck as well, twice over, as it happened to me once with my car too. IMHO, it's getting to the point were cops need to be policed.

#117 | Posted by panchovilla

Yeah, they should always respond to a burglary call assuming the owner is breaking in to retrieve their keys.

IMHO, it's getting to the point were cops need to be policed.

#117 | Posted by panchovilla at 2009-07-24 11:36 AM

Because of this incident? What did the cop do wrong?

It seems to me that the simplest explanation here is that both Gates and the cop lost their tempers. That happens. The cop should have had the common sense to apologize and leave.

#12 | Posted by rcade at 2009-07-23 07:00 PM | Reply

And Gates should have just what?

Face it, the race baiting negro was begging for attention, and he got it. And now you libs are tripping over yourselves making excuses for him and blaming a cop.

If you take what most of the libbies here spout at face value, cops are stupid. So what does that make the black bastard that pushed his luck with a "stupid" cop? Doesn't sound like a scholar to me.

So suppose Rush Limbaugh were coming home to his palace in Palm Beach, it's late at night, his neighbors know he's away on vacation, and he and a pal are trying to force their way in.
Police are called, and a highly regarded, well-decorated black police sergeant with no complaints filed against him, answers the call. Once he introduces himself, Limbaugh goes into a rant. "Don't you know who I am? What are you, some kind of racist cop?"

"Sir, can you please step outside, so I can just ask you a few questions?"

"I'll see your mama outside! I know people! You sure you want trouble?!"

Neighbors gather outside, attracted to the commotion, and Limbaugh's yelling at the cops. Finally one of them has enough, calls it in, and says put him in the car for a drive downtown.

* * * *

How many of you libbies would be saying in that case that Limbaugh's house is his castle? That the cop is entitled to some kind of apology? Or that President Obama should weigh in on the issue, and say that the police officer acted "stupidly"?

Just askin'. Because mefears that this is, again, another example of libtards defending their own.

I rememeber when Nixon declared that Charlie Manson was guilty during the trial and the left went ape shit. But it's OK for Obama, who I'm sure didn't know a fucking thing about this other than Gates was involved to come out and make such a stupid statement.

Gates was wrong for giving the cop hell. The cop was more wrong for not being professional and walking away once it was clear there was no crime, but Obama is most wrong of all for opening his mouth about something so small. He is the President and some things should not be in his field of vision.

I rememeber when Nixon declared that Charlie Manson was guilty during the trial and the left went ape shit. But it's OK for Obama, who I'm sure didn't know a fucking thing about this other than Gates was involved to come out and make such a stupid statement.

#123 | Posted by wisgod

I've already said I think Obama should have shut up after the first sentence of his answer.

But how, exactly, do you see those two examples as being the same?

I don't think it's necessary to invoke racism to explain officer Crowley's behaviour. He was disrespected by someone who didn't obey his every command. To his mind he was even lenient, he gave his orders multiple times. Gates stepped out of line and needed to be put in his place, not because he was black, but because he was a civilian who wasn't doing what a police officer told him.

When I had to deal the Miami Metros, it was always "yes sir" "no sir", even if they were a male officer, with a barrage of profanity in my head.

The cop was more wrong for not being professional and walking away once it was clear there was no crime,

Everything I have seen shows Crowley did walk away. He was being followed by Gates and kept yelling at Crowley for his badge number, the chiefs name or whatever he was blathering. Gates was creating the scene not Crowley. He had no choice but to arrest this scumbag. Why should the neighbors be subject to a ranting lunatic disturbing the peace?

But how, exactly, do you see those two examples as being the same?

#125 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Nixon had a better excuse to say what he did based on the known facts. Obama had no clue as to the facts at the time other than it was Gates. The Police report had not been released. That's all I'm saying.

I like your posts Crisp

Gates was wrong for giving the cop hell. The cop was more wrong for not being professional and walking away once it was clear there was no crime, but Obama is most wrong of all for opening his mouth about something so small. He is the President and some things should not be in his field of vision.
#124 | Posted by kanrei

Should have been post #1. But its a thread killer.

Nixon had a better excuse to say what he did based on the known facts. Obama had no clue as to the facts at the time other than it was Gates. The Police report had not been released. That's all I'm saying.

#129 | Posted by wisgod

Nixon declared the defendant guilty in the middle of a criminal trial. What Obama did was certainly a gaff, and ill-considered. But I don't see it anywhere near the level of the Nixon-Manson incident.

I had to arrest him. He was acting all "tumultuous".

California Penal Code 415 415. Disturbing the Peace

Any of the following persons shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a period of not more than 90 days, a fine of not more than four hundred dollars ($400), or both such imprisonment and fine:

(1) Any person who unlawfully fights in a public place or challenges another person in a public place to fight.

(2) Any person who maliciously and willfully disturbs another person by loud and unreasonable noise.

(3) Any person who uses offensive words in a public place which are inherently likely to provoke an immediate violent reaction.

Is Mass. or any other States laws different?

BHO is pitting rich against poor, blacks against white, not being very Bi Partisan....

" rememeber when Nixon declared that Charlie Manson was guilty during the trial and the left went ape shit."

"But I don't see it anywhere near the level of the Nixon-Manson incident."

We're still defending Manson? What was it that got the left to be so upset about Nixon's comment, that Manson had long hair?

When I get to the bottom
I go back to the top of the slide....

I had to arrest him. He was acting all "tumultuous".
#133 | Posted by CaptainNemo

You wrong, Nemo.

LMAO.

Chapter 272: Section 54. Apprehension for certain offences, without warrant; custody

What was it that got the left to be so upset about Nixon's comment, that Manson had long hair?
Posted by Hagbard_Celine

No, that he could control the minds of people better than the Democrats could.

We're still defending Manson?

#136 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

If only he'd made it when he tried out for the Monkees. What a different world we would live in today.

(OK, I know that's not true - don't Snopes me bro!)

Patrolman Carlos Figueroa told The Associated Press that when Crowley asked Gates to present identification, the professor shouted, "No, I will not!" Figueroa said Gates called Crowley a racist and shouted, "This is what happens to black men in America!"

poor black man is so oppressed, got the job because he was black in the first place, I for one amk tired of the bitching about his being opressed. we have a quota president elected BECAUSE he is black. wake up self loathing white boys!

(OK, I know that's not true - don't Snopes me bro!)
#140 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

LOL... that was the link I was going for.

"Gates stepped out of line and needed to be put in his place,"

This is the kind of thinking that is dangerous IMO

Patrolman Carlos Figueroa told The Associated Press that when Crowley asked Gates to present identification, the professor shouted, "No, I will not!" Figueroa said Gates called Crowley a racist and shouted, "This is what happens to black men in America!"

#141 | POSTED BY RIGHTISRIGHT AT 2009-07-24 12:36 PM | REPLY | FLAG

That proves how stoooopid the cops are. When a black man says "no" to presenting identification, the cops should not have escalated it.

BO

Looks like Obama showed his true self when he accused the police officer of "acting stupidly" before he knew all the facts. It was Obama who was "acting stupidly" to even bring the matter up -- especially so during a prime time speech to the nation. As more facts of what actually happened have begun to surface, Obama looks even more the fool for having shot off his mouth.

But apparently it's always a case of "bad cop" as far as Obama is concerned -- facts be damned.

As POTUS, Obama has access to the world's most powerful bully pulpit. With that comes a serious responsiblity. Obama shouldn't have used it a billy club to defend his racebaiting buddy Professor Gates and castigate the entire Cambridge Police Dept.

DUMBAMA

I voted for Obama (as my only other option was a McCain presidency and 4-8 more years of "Bush-lite"). But between this incident -- and Obama's health care bill which would ration medical only to those patients "deemed worthy" of receiving it -- I'm beginning to wish I could take my vote back.

ration medical only = ration medical care only

Donnerboy - Gates was not dragged or "taken" from his home. He followed the cop out of the house. After two requests to stop shouting, he was arrested for disorderly conduct. Is it because Gates is black, well connected, and a Harvard professor, give him the right to harass a police officer?

#103 | Posted by dcstressfree

I wouldn't get away with this ~ if true ~ why should Gstes?

Libs told us that if we elected a black man POTUS it would do wonders for race relations and we would enter a "post racial period in American history." Now that Obama has made his "stupid" remark, it has caused such a turmoil that it has set race relations back decades. Why did libs lie again?

After two requests to stop shouting, he was arrested for disorderly conduct.

Shouting is a crime now?

Shouting is not, but failure to comply with the orders of a police officer could be.

Shouting is a crime now?

#150 | Posted by donnerboy at 2009-07-24 02:35 PM | Reply

I guess you've never heard of "Disturbing the Peace" or "Disorderly Conduct"? You're a fool.

Shouting is a crime now?

#150 | Posted by donnerboy at 2009-07-24 02:35 PM | Reply

I guess you've never heard of "Disturbing the Peace" or "Disorderly Conduct"? You're a fool.

I can't get over his posts claiming the cop dragged him outside. LOL

Shouting is a crime now?

#150 | Posted by donnerboy at 2009-07-24 02:35 PM

Damm you are a stupid fucker.

This guy though, this little piggy who spends a little time with guys who aspire to be little piggies to suppliment his less than poverty wages, he's an "expert"?

#8 | Posted by NoGov4Me

Who are you to judge the guy? If anything he should be praised for taking the time and effort to teach profiling. At least he's doing it. Yet all you can do is insult the guy and act as if his training means nothing. It's obvious by the way you talk that you hate all cops. I'm not a big cop fan myself, but I'm not stupid enough to believe that they are all bad, and they all deserve respect just for the job they do.

I can't get over his posts claiming the cop dragged him outside. LOL

#153 | Posted by crispee_oc

Yeah everyone is a "fool" that doesn't agree with the cops or the righty tighties.

I probably should have "calibrated" my word better tho...lol. I freely admit he was not physically "dragged" anywhere. But, apparently he was arrested for shouting and taken from his home all over a stoopid misunderstanding. And I can understand how this citizen, considering his life circumstances and what he did for a living, may have gotten a bit upset by the Officers apparent arrogance.

Again the Professional Officer (as the Peace Officer)had the duty to diffuse the situation and keep the peace. He failed. I bet he regrets how he acted now! I bet in the future he uses this incident in his "training" classes now on how not to aggravate the situation and give your police department a PR "black" eye.

Case dismissed!

It seems to me that the simplest explanation here is that both Gates and the cop lost their tempers. That happens. The cop should have had the common sense to apologize and leave.

#12 | Posted by rcade

That's funny. From every report that I've heard the cop kept his cool the entire time. Even when Gates was shouting so loud the cop couldn't make his call into his headquarters. And why the hell should the cops be the ones to apologize? They responded to a possible burglary call. They were doing their job. If anyone needed common sense it was Gates. Common sense would have told him that if he just provided the proper ID and proved ownership of the home the whole thing would have gone without incident. You act as if the cops incited this, when in reality it was Gates with a huge chip on his shoulder who caused the problems.

Gates is the racist...he didn't see a police officer...he saw a white cop.

In fact, there is no law requiring citizens to carry identification of any kind, -Txlibertarian

There most certainly is a law that states a person must always carry a legal and offial form of ID.

Who are you to judge the guy?

#155 | Posted by everlong at

Yeah, I'm such a judgemental prick. It's almost like I walked in a house, saw a black man in it and arrested him for being there.

Yeah, I'm such a judgemental prick. It's almost like I walked in a house, saw a black man in it and arrested him for being there.

#160 | Posted by NoGov4Me

Nice how you convieniently left out all of the facts of the case. Like the cops were called about a possible burglary in progress. You are a judgemental prick because you misrepresented how it happened to pass judgment on the cop. Never mind the rest of the facts. I'm sure it doesn't matter to you that Gates followed the officer as he was leaving, screaming insults at him. It sounds like you would act the same way which is why you're so ready to give Gates a pass. You're more than a prick you're and asshole too.

If it had been a White man arrested would Obama have called the officer stupid? Didn't think so. Typically any normal person supports his own race over any other.

In fact, there is no law requiring citizens to carry identification of any kind, -Txlibertarian

There most certainly is a law that states a person must always carry a legal and offial form of ID.

#159 | Posted by everlong at 2009-07-24 04:20 PM

Yeah, you don't need to identify yourself to anyone. Just because your neighbor calls the police and reports someone is breaking into your house means nothing.

Idiot.

The justifications of the actions of the race baiting, race warlord professor by the racists on this site is a good reason for any police officer to suspect the worse when dealing with sub-saharan descendents.

There most certainly is a law that states a person must always carry a legal and offial form of ID.

#159 | Posted by everlong

What fucking Commie country are you in? There is no such law in America and I call bullshit on this! Prove it!

Gates is the racist, He should be fired from that stoopid college, Harvard - it figures.

This just in... Health plan more important than race relations...

It seems to me that the simplest explanation here is that both Gates and the cop lost their tempers. That happens. The cop should have had the common sense to apologize and leave.

#12 | Posted by rcade

It seems to me you have yet to apologize to the cop.

I can't get over his posts claiming the cop dragged him outside. LOL

#153 | Posted by crispee_oc

Yeah everyone is a "fool" that doesn't agree with the cops or the righty tighties.
#156 | Posted by donnerboy at 2009-07-24 04:07 PM

The only fool donner is the one who either lied about Gates being dragged or never bothered to read what happened.

Now that Obama has come to his senses and called Crowley, are you still playing the victim card? Or still blame the cop?

The justifications of the actions of the race baiting, race warlord professor by the racists on this site is a good reason for any police officer to suspect the worse when dealing with sub-saharan descendents.

#164 | Posted by slicksterWilly

See--this kind of post just doesn't do anything for the conversation or the debate.

In fact, there is no law requiring citizens to carry identification of any kind, -Txlibertarian

There most certainly is a law that states a person must always carry a legal and offial form of ID.

#159 | Posted by everlong

Not exactly--

That settles it. Ladies and gentlemen what we have here is a mite that lives in the band of the cop's hat. It witnessed the whole damned thing and is here posting so the whole world knows the truth!

#71 | Posted by NoGov4Me at 2009-07-23 11:04 PM

Care to retract that ignorant post? Or are you going to pat yourself on the back for being wrong?

And he has a black friend.

It seems to me that the simplest explanation here is that both Gates and the cop lost their tempers. That happens. The cop should have had the common sense to apologize and leave.

#12 | Posted by rcade

No way !

rcade and eddie agree on something?

Yeah everyone is a "fool" that doesn't agree with the cops or the righty tighties.
#156 | Posted by donnerboy at 2009-07-24 04:07 PM

The only fool donner is the one who either lied about Gates being dragged or never bothered to read what happened.

Now that Obama has come to his senses and called Crowley, are you still playing the victim card? Or still blame the cop?

#169 | Posted by crispee_oc

I've learned something today. I've learned that Obama is a real person. I don't agree with his philosophy, but he's intelligent and has the balls to say what's on his mind. Personally, I believe he's made a big mistake, politically, but I have so much more respect for him now.

I have never agreed with anything the man wanted this country, but I can't help but have more respect for him for speaking out against what happened. Everyone (except the protectors of the white supremacy) believes this incident was racially motivated.

"Everyone (except the protectors of the white supremacy) believes this incident was racially motivated."

Black officer at Gates home during arrest said scholar acted strange, supports arrest
www.chicagotribune.com

#176 | Posted by AndreaMackris

"A black police officer who was at Henry Louis Gates Jr.'s home when the black Harvard scholar was arrested says he fully supports how his white fellow officer handled the situation."

Of course he does! You have to remember that he is one a few blacks on a white police force.

If I were black and on that force, I would say as little as I could. If I said anything, it would be in support of my team.

Truth and my own opinion be damned. It's just too dangerous to do otherwise.

except the protectors of the white supremacy) believes this incident was racially motivated.

#175 | Posted by Eddie at 2009-07-24 08:51 PM

You just took over and the dumbest fuck on here. That is just amazing, considering you were competing with Donner.

Michael Eric Dyson must of been named after the brand of vacuum cleaner because he sucks so well.

...what does that make the black bastard that pushed his luck with a "stupid" cop?

"Tired and grouchy after having to break into his own home after a long trip" sounds plausible to me.

Doesn't sound like a scholar to me. -- #121 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Good grief. He was off the clock, in his own home. Crowley, on the other hand, was on duty.

I'm a pretty easygoing, cooperative type IRL, and being told by a cop to get off my own front lawn just about set my hair on fire. (There was a demonstration nearby, and the police decided to clear the area.)

A real lawman would have had a clue and defused the bomb by instinct. -- #56 | Posted by Zatoichi

Exactly. Except "bomb" is a little too strong. Gotta wonder about a cop who can't handle a grouchy middle-aged man who walks with a cane.

Doesn't sound like a scholar to me. -- #121 | Posted by 101Chairborne

"Good grief. He was off the clock, in his own home. Crowley, on the other hand, was on duty."

Would any scholar immediatley recognize why a cop was standing in front of his house, after attempting to break in minutes earlier? Not to mention observing the cop standing next to a woman, observing other cops arriving, more people coming out, cars stopping... Yet Gates claims he didn't know why they were there. So this scholar, who is dumbfounded, determines the only reason the cop can be there is because he was being racially profiled. So the first words out of his mouth are "Why? Because I am a black man? Keep in mind this is a prominent, educated, recognized scholar. This is what Obama and many posters here want us to swallow? The fact Gates attorney says the cop never identified himself, lied about Crowleys first question when he approached the house, only makes this a bigger whopper to digest.

Would any scholar immediatley recognize why a cop was standing in front of his house, after attempting to break in minutes earlier? -- #183 | Posted by crispee_oc

Are you telling me you've never had a moment where you were tired, grouchy, not thinking straight, and not likely to summon the appropriate demeanor if someone surprised you in your own home? And you think that merits being cuffed and arrested?

Are you telling me you've never had a moment where you were tired, grouchy, not thinking straight, and not likely to summon the appropriate demeanor if someone surprised you in your own home? And you think that merits being cuffed and arrested?

#184 | Posted by Phoenix at 2009-07-25 11:01 AM

What the hell does that have to do with anything I posted?

Why does everyone ignore what happened and try and spin it this way or that way? Not to mention flat out lie in their pathetic attempts to exonerate this prick? He was surprised... He was tired... He didn't know what was going on... He was scared...

Get the facts in order Phoenix. He was cuffed and arrested for following the cop and screaming at him. In front of several witnesses and other cops. Very easy search of Mass. Civil Code. But hey, I will accept your defense of Gates reaction.Crowley had to be there to profile him because he was black. I will wait for all supported links to that defense.

Where are Jesse and Al?

Where are Jesse and Al?

They're on their way, but they keep getting pulled over whenever they drive through the suburbs...

Where are Jesse and Al?

They have been marginalized since Obama took office. The Obama clique of racist, race baiting bigots are a notch above the simpleminded ministers. They need to be Harvard Professors.

there is much more to this story than meets the eye:

Obama is also a profiling expert! According to Obama all white cops are just plain bad and act stupidly.

Please do not question Obama. He does not bother reading facts like reading the House Healthcare Bill (which he admitted to) or Cambridge Department Police reports (he admitted to not knowing the facts). He is a product of affirmative action who pitches a baseball like a girl and bowls like "the Special Olympics or something."

I submitted the link to the website with the story to drudge report. Hopefully he will link to it and it will national news.

Obama just killed off his healthcare bill by just opening his racist mouth. It seems the main supporers of Obama now are far right white liberals on this arrest issue. Even black writers are coming out against Gates. This whole thing is blowing up in Obama's face. He just can't keep away from racists like the Reverand Wright and Skip Gates' of the world.

Quote, "Ringmasterbater

At what point did I say that you were a Liberal? I said that you were an idiot. If you want to call that a Liberal then that is up to you. However, my point still stands that you are an idiot."

This is exactly why cops should not be allowed to post on public forums. They make the rest of their cop buddies look like societies dirt bags.

He does not bother reading facts like reading the House Healthcare Bill (which he admitted to) or Cambridge Department Police reports (he admitted to not knowing the facts

He may be right about not knowing the facts, but don't be fooled for a minute he wasn't contacted by Gates or his attorney Ogletree. They have a direct link to Obama and he accepted the one sided story of Gates. This is before the press conference and his subsequent remarks the next day. Soon as the information on Crowley came out he instructs Gibbs to close this issue, yet hours later he himself holds another press conference. To this day he has yet to say one iota about Gates actions. This is not over and I can only hope more and more time is spent looking into the relationship of Gates, Obama and Ogletree.

This is exactly why cops should not be allowed to post on public forums. They make the rest of their cop buddies look like societies dirt bags.

#194 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009-07-25 08:13 PM

Exactly as I said, you are an idiot. Where the hell did you eer get that I was a cop? You know, moron also comes to mind.

eer = ever